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What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced Vaccination

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805688
United States
11/12/2009 8:21 PM
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lets start off with some little facts

In the Ukraine:

roughly 1.2 million infected and about 235 dead

that is a death rate of 0.00019% the death rate of a regular flu is 0.1% that is 500 times less lethal than a regular flu.

lets look at the USA numbers


22 million have been infected
3,900 have died

death rate = 0.00018% roughly the same as ukraine
regular flu death rate in USA = 0.1%
this again is about 500 times less lethal

so over all

Death rate of H1n1 = 0.00019%
Dearth rate of REG. Flu = 0.1%
Death rate of spanish flu (1918) = 2.0%


so the question is why the fuck are they pushing the vaccine! here in my school at Loma Linda University they are telling all students MUST have the vaccination shot or they wont be able to register for winter quarter

here is the letter i got:



To: Faculty and Staff



From: Dr. Richard Hart, President and Dr. Warren Peters, Director, Center for Health Promotion



Date: November 11, 2009



Subject: Seasonal and H1N1 Influenza





All students will be receiving the letter below by e-mail today. Points of emphasis for your information are the following:



Seasonal influenza

1. As of Thursday, November 12, the last scheduled clinic for administering the seasonal flu vaccines for the schools will have been completed. By Monday, November 16, Student Health Service will provide the Associate Dean of Students of each school with the list of students still needing the seasonal flu vaccine in order to avoid a hold on their winter registration. The remaining doses that your school has available will be taken into consideration before placing the holds just prior to Monday, November 30.

H1N1 influenza

1. H1N1 vaccine is required of all students.



2. Student Health Service has received 2000 doses as of this week, and scheduling of clinics will begin now. Our student body is in the high risk category, and over the next number of weeks we expect to receive the remaining doses.
3. Holds will be applied to non-compliant students for spring quarter registration.
4. Loma Linda University legal counsel has reviewed and supports these requirements.
5. There may be a rare case of severe egg allergy, but emergency room visit and/or laboratory documentation is necessary in order for a declination form to be used and processed by our physician staff.
6. For students with Risk Management, all costs will be covered. Some schools have indicated a willingness to cover the minimal costs for vaccine administration for students who do not have Risk Management. During the scheduling process for these clinics, your school administration can advise us on this matter.
7. As previously agreed through the Dean’s Council, students who are presumptively ill from the H1N1 virus will be excused from class or clinic assignments without a Student Health physician sick note.

As you may know, the Occupational Medicine Clinic here on campus will be receiving doses for faculty and staff. While still in the planning stages, Student Health Service and the Occupational Medicine Clinic may be working together to run clinics simultaneously for students, faculty and staff. It has been strongly recommended that all faculty and staff receive the H1N1 vaccine.



Copy of Student Memo



On behalf of the University, Student Health Service would like to thank you for your participation and compliance with the recent seasonal influenza vaccine requirement. Currently, we have vaccinated over 2,100 students, invariably limiting the likelihood of a large scale seasonal influenza outbreak on our campus while also protecting visitors and patients from our extended community. If you have not yet received your seasonal influenza vaccine, the Student Health Service may be able to accommodate you to avoid a “hold” on your winter registration.



Loma Linda University is requiring the vaccination of the entire student population for the H1N1 influenza virus. In order to ensure the timely vaccination of each student, and to control a large scale H1N1 influenza outbreak on campus, students who do not comply with University policy to receive a H1N1 influenza vaccine will have a “hold” placed on their spring quarter registration. To avoid complications regarding your registration, please check your email regularly for school updates regarding clinic schedules.



The University would like to thank you in advance for your understanding and agreement to receive the H1N1 influenza vaccine. We are aware that some of you may have reservations about receiving the H1N1 vaccine. The information from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (see www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu) may assist you with any questions. By each of us playing our small part, we trust that we can assure the protection and safety of your peers, family, friends and potential patients.



Student Health Service






THIS IS BULLSHIT
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 697653
Australia
11/12/2009 8:25 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Certainly is bullshit.
So, you have two options.
Continue your edumaction or refuse the shot.
this is just the beginning....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 697653
Australia
11/12/2009 8:26 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Mods, this is EXACTLY what has been said would happen.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 796484
United States
11/12/2009 8:27 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Dude I don't know what I would do if my school ever did this I might be on the minority of not taking it instead of going to school

my advice to you from what Ive heard i would strongly advise you

a. Make a school wide strike against this get teachers involved too
b. find a different school or threaten to leave along with half of the city's population
or
c.(the easy one) Take the shot

please note however the path that is easiest may not always be the best.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 789329
United States
11/12/2009 8:27 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

WTF Pin this shit. Any other loma Linda students in here. I know this school gives out degrees in mostly health care.. Med school, dental, nurse, PT..etc
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817043
Canada
11/12/2009 8:29 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

this "shot" is quickly starting to look like the mark of the beast

will you be able to work if you don't get the shot?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805688 (OP)
United States
11/12/2009 8:29 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

going off to study. ill try to answer any questions when i come back
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 805688 (OP)
United States
11/12/2009 8:30 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

this "shot" is quickly starting to look like the mark of the beast

will you be able to work if you don't get the shot?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 817043

nope...all staff of loma linda hospital and students of the university
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 526155
Canada
11/12/2009 8:30 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Dude I don't know what I would do if my school ever did this I might be on the minority of not taking it instead of going to school

my advice to you from what Ive heard i would strongly advise you

a. Make a school wide strike against this get teachers involved too
b. find a different school or threaten to leave along with half of the city's population
or
c.(the easy one) Take the shot

please note however the path that is easiest may not always be the best.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 796484



The nurses in New York State just won a lawsuit and stopped this kind of thing.

You can either sue, try the "allergic" tactic (allergic to eggs of course), or leave.
s226
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817107
United States
11/12/2009 8:46 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

They r taking it to the next level. Pin this
Resister Subscriber
In God we trust
User ID: 625292
United States
11/12/2009 8:46 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Not good. Not good at all.
Find another school.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
ShadowSpaz
User ID: 728254
United States
11/12/2009 8:50 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

bump


This really needs to be pinned!!
Please...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 768075
United States
11/12/2009 8:55 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Start by going to the main office and have them add a signed and notarized exemption form to your file.. After that if they put a hold on your education have a 2 dollar attorney send them a letter saying you will be looking into civil action, and reference a few cases that have already been won.

That should do it, done deal
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710888
United States
11/12/2009 9:10 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Crazyness. I'm sure u can fight it but it's going to be a pain in the ass and take away time from school
GraftedPromise
User ID: 817098
United States
11/12/2009 9:14 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

.
... home education ...
.
... any other system brings misery ...
.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 682111
United States
11/12/2009 9:19 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

IF your are a weak pussy.. then the flu will kick your ass and probably kill you anyway.

So make the best decision.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 736354
United States
11/12/2009 9:24 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Founded in 1905, Loma Linda University (LLU) is a private, Christian, coeducational, health sciences university located in Southern California 60 miles (97 km) east of Los Angeles close to San Bernardino. LLU is part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church's system of higher education. Eight schools and the Faculty of Graduate Studies comprise the University organization. More than 100 certificate and degree programs are offered by the schools of Allied Health Professions, Dentistry, Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, Public Health, Religion, and Science and Technology. Curricula offered range from certificates of completion and associate in science degrees to doctor of philosophy and professional doctoral degrees


What part of "health sciences university" don't you understand. Also, it's a private school, it's not like you don't have a choice. Silly Christers LOL
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817216
United States
11/12/2009 11:46 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Founded in 1905, Loma Linda University (LLU) is a private, Christian, coeducational, health sciences university located in Southern California 60 miles (97 km) east of Los Angeles close to San Bernardino. LLU is part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church's system of higher education. Eight schools and the Faculty of Graduate Studies comprise the University organization. More than 100 certificate and degree programs are offered by the schools of Allied Health Professions, Dentistry, Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, Public Health, Religion, and Science and Technology. Curricula offered range from certificates of completion and associate in science degrees to doctor of philosophy and professional doctoral degrees


What part of "health sciences university" don't you understand. Also, it's a private school, it's not like you don't have a choice. Silly Christers LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 736354

Ya sure, because if a private corporation has "health" or "science" on their title that means that that have ur best interest in mind...dumb ass. Just because u work for or take part in a private corporation does not mean ur body belongs to them which is why corporations that haveandatef this have lost in court.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817216
United States
11/12/2009 11:49 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Founded in 1905, Loma Linda University (LLU) is a private, Christian, coeducational, health sciences university located in Southern California 60 miles (97 km) east of Los Angeles close to San Bernardino. LLU is part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church's system of higher education. Eight schools and the Faculty of Graduate Studies comprise the University organization. More than 100 certificate and degree programs are offered by the schools of Allied Health Professions, Dentistry, Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, Public Health, Religion, and Science and Technology. Curricula offered range from certificates of completion and associate in science degrees to doctor of philosophy and professional doctoral degrees


What part of "health sciences university" don't you understand. Also, it's a private school, it's not like you don't have a choice. Silly Christers LOL

Ya sure, because if a private corporation has "health" or "science" on their title that means that that have ur best interest in mind...dumb ass. Just because u work for or take part in a private corporation does not mean ur body belongs to them which is why corporations that haveandatef this have lost in court.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 817216

*corporation that have done this have lost in court
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 816244
Belgium
11/12/2009 11:50 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Then don't register for Winter quarter, unless college is more important than your life.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 802888
United States
11/12/2009 11:50 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Oh wow...
Okay if I were you I would organize student protest and get the community involved. Contact groups that fight against this.







and PIN!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 802888
United States
11/12/2009 11:51 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Oh now that I've read about the school, I'd just drop out.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 693590
United States
11/12/2009 11:56 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

OP-

The mods had a thread up a few weeks ago showing exactly how you can avoid this shot by using their own laws against them. I would ask them if they can find it. Trust me, they will know which thread it is...


Mods, if you are reading this, it may be high time to pin that thread on avoiding the vaccine legally for a few days. Looks like the heat turned on...

3rdDayRising
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778753
United States
11/12/2009 11:56 PM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

lets start off with some little facts

In the Ukraine:

roughly 1.2 million infected and about 235 dead

that is a death rate of 0.00019% the death rate of a regular flu is 0.1% that is 500 times less lethal than a regular flu.

lets look at the USA numbers


22 million have been infected
3,900 have died

death rate = 0.00018% roughly the same as ukraine
regular flu death rate in USA = 0.1%
this again is about 500 times less lethal

so over all

Death rate of H1n1 = 0.00019%
Dearth rate of REG. Flu = 0.1%
Death rate of spanish flu (1918) = 2.0%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805688


Three things.

1. Comparing to Ukraine makes no sense because that data is for one week alone. And we don't even know if it's accurate- could be a lot more. Search the newest Ukraine threads, interesting stuff.

2. If we have a major mutation, and it's looking that way, the vax is useless anyway.

3. It's a Christian school. Have you gotten your hands on a copy of your student handbook and read the vaccination policies? I'd ignore the letter and do that first.

Good luck!
Majick
User ID: 782145
United States
11/13/2009 12:01 AM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Again I will say - Where are the Human Rights screamers now?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 771799
United States
11/13/2009 12:25 AM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

Again I will say - Where are the Human Rights screamers now?
 Quoting: Majick 782145

Obama is in office so the don't give a shit anymore. If bush was in power during they would be screaming bloody murder
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 771799
United States
11/13/2009 12:30 AM
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Now that much more vaccines are being bought and available ur going to see much more of this. This wasn't happening sooner because there was a shortage of vaccines
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 781387
United States
11/14/2009 2:36 AM
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Now that much more vaccines are being bought and available ur going to see much more of this. This wasn't happening sooner because there was a shortage of vaccines
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771799

+1
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 818098
Thailand
11/14/2009 5:43 AM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

lets look at the USA numbers

22 million have been infected
3,900 have died
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805688


Where the hell did you get these numbers, OP? They appear quite exaggerated.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 749475
United States
11/14/2009 5:51 AM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

lets look at the USA numbers

22 million have been infected
3,900 have died




Where the hell did you get these numbers, OP? They appear quite exaggerated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 818098

[link to www.cdc.gov]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817731
Australia
11/14/2009 5:55 AM
Re: What the F&*k is wrong with my School!! Forced VaccinationQuote

If even one life is saved, it will all be worth it!!!
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