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Why do Christians think the Kundalini has to do with satan?

 
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The Christ energy you feel in your heart is also known as Kundalini. It's alright. It's all the same, just a different name.
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WRONG. I actually thought you were going to tell me something, but you were/are wrong. I know this because I personally experienced all three: Kundalini (the serpent)I witnessed at age 19 or 20; the Christ energy or Pure Love of God at 21 or 22; and the all-powerful God energy of Pure Justice (available through Christ) in my mid to late twenties.

If I had only read it in a book I might believe you, but this was and is not the case.
 Quoting: honest gail 56790381


What was your experience with Kundalini? Did it happen spontaneously? Did you have physical symptoms like sensations along your spine?

Kundalini is the "life force" which governs the creation of our bodies in the womb through the divine intelligence then settles at the base of the spine.

At certain times in our life, through meditation and prayer or yoga or tai chi or even the use of entheogens, the Kundalini rises back up through the seven chakras (these are the seven churches, lampstands from Revelations.
)
It really is alright. Sometimes Kundalini can be triggered when the person is not ready and some difficulties can happen. Unfortunatley this can be seen as evil by those ignorant of the truth. I witnessed it myself when a young girl had a Kundalini awakening while worshiping in bile study. The pastor didn't understand what it was and assumed it was 'demonic posession'.

Such a shame.

I say this based on personal experience, not just book knowledge.
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I like what you say. Of course it's alright. It is a part of you and me and all of us humans. You have been blessed with a little enlightenment, but as you must know "it" must be controlled. When someone says you have to be ready I guess "ready" means one makes few errors, or doesn't sin, and they are ready because the serpent has nothing to grab onto (or something to this effect.) Goody for them! I am not perfect so the serpent plays on my faults - and I don't like it.

Question: are there people who believe we can cleanse our chakras to a point of driving the serpent up and out? !! because I personally would like him out.

Yes. A lot of people do not know what is real, but thankfully we can share what we know and try to learn more.
 Quoting: honest gail 56790381


There is no doubt that in addition to our physical body, we also have a "soul" body. This soul body contains meridians or channels through which Prana or Chi flows. Our nervous and endocrine systems are the physical representation in 3D of these hyper-dimensional channels.

Knowledge of this energy system has been the central tenant of eastern and western medicine and spiritual understanding for aeons. The caduceus (the staff with the two snakes climbing up and the wings at the top) is a vivid symbol of these energies and of Kundalini itself. The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead.

The staff that was raised by Moses and cured those bitten by the venomous snakes in the desert is another clue here.

When Kundalini encounters blockages in the energy body the results can be unpleasant. All we can do is have faith in God and allow this divine energy to do it's work.

Don't fear it or it may become a real problem.

If you are having a very difficult time with the process, there are people who may be able to help...

[link to spiritualemergence.net]
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Yes. Kundalini may feel 'alien' and it does have an intelligence. It's goal is to rise up and rejoin with the cosmic source. The path can be difficult.

Read the book "Kundalini: The Evolutionary Energy in Man" by Gopi Krishna. In it he describes the ordeal he went through while assimilating the full Kundalini release.
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I will look that book up, but the fact that you used the word assimilate makes accepting kundalini energy seem equivalent to being taken into the Borg.
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Anything that destroys the ego can be seen as frightening. Assimilation into the pure divine energy implies the dissolution of the "self". "You" cannot exist in the presence of God.

"Deny your self, pick up your cross and follow me"

"He who saves his life shall lose it but he who loses his life for my sake shall save it"

"The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness"
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Choosing to deny oneself, choosing to place God's will first before our own is not the same thing as allowing yourself to be taken over and assimilated by some kind of spirit/energy.
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I disagree. The spirit/energy is from God. It is nothing to fear although the ego becomes threatened and fear may arise when it happens.

Remember the tongues of flame over the heads of the disciples at pentacost?

Kundalini
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Yes. Kundalini may feel 'alien' and it does have an intelligence. It's goal is to rise up and rejoin with the cosmic source. The path can be difficult.

Read the book "Kundalini: The Evolutionary Energy in Man" by Gopi Krishna. In it he describes the ordeal he went through while assimilating the full Kundalini release.
 Quoting: Source 5792164


I will look that book up, but the fact that you used the word assimilate makes accepting kundalini energy seem equivalent to being taken into the Borg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15762023


Anything that destroys the ego can be seen as frightening. Assimilation into the pure divine energy implies the dissolution of the "self". "You" cannot exist in the presence of God.

"Deny your self, pick up your cross and follow me"

"He who saves his life shall lose it but he who loses his life for my sake shall save it"

"The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness"
 Quoting: Source 5792164


Choosing to deny oneself, choosing to place God's will first before our own is not the same thing as allowing yourself to be taken over and assimilated by some kind of spirit/energy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15762023


Also,
I can most definitely "exist" in the presence of God. I do it all the time. You do too. We are not Him.

What I can't figure out is why people want to allow themselves to disappear into this so called universal oneness. There is nothing we have to do to become with the universe. We already are by virtue of the fact that we are all made from the same material of this universe. We are connected to everything already on a molecular level. We all share energy and light.

Is kundalini about self empowerment under the guise of fake ego annihilation?
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I will look that book up, but the fact that you used the word assimilate makes accepting kundalini energy seem equivalent to being taken into the Borg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15762023


Anything that destroys the ego can be seen as frightening. Assimilation into the pure divine energy implies the dissolution of the "self". "You" cannot exist in the presence of God.

"Deny your self, pick up your cross and follow me"

"He who saves his life shall lose it but he who loses his life for my sake shall save it"

"The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness"
 Quoting: Source 5792164


Choosing to deny oneself, choosing to place God's will first before our own is not the same thing as allowing yourself to be taken over and assimilated by some kind of spirit/energy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15762023


Also,
I can most definitely "exist" in the presence of God. I do it all the time. You do too. We are not Him.

What I can't figure out is why people want to allow themselves to disappear into this so called universal oneness. There is nothing we have to do to become with the universe. We already are by virtue of the fact that we are all made from the same material of this universe. We are connected to everything already on a molecular level. We all share energy and light.

Is kundalini about self empowerment under the guise of fake ego annihilation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15762023


Great point. You are correct when you say that there is nothing we need to do to connect with God/Source because we never left it. The problem is ignorance of this fact and the ego's insistence that we are seperate.

This false idea that we are seperate is the cause of suffering.

The reason why some people are willing to give up this false notion of self is because we are tired of incarnating in the wheel of samsara.
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WRONG. I actually thought you were going to tell me something, but you were/are wrong. I know this because I personally experienced all three: Kundalini (the serpent)I witnessed at age 19 or 20; the Christ energy or Pure Love of God at 21 or 22; and the all-powerful God energy of Pure Justice (available through Christ) in my mid to late twenties.

If I had only read it in a book I might believe you, but this was and is not the case.
 Quoting: honest gail 56790381


What was your experience with Kundalini? Did it happen spontaneously? Did you have physical symptoms like sensations along your spine?

Kundalini is the "life force" which governs the creation of our bodies in the womb through the divine intelligence then settles at the base of the spine.

At certain times in our life, through meditation and prayer or yoga or tai chi or even the use of entheogens, the Kundalini rises back up through the seven chakras (these are the seven churches, lampstands from Revelations.
)
It really is alright. Sometimes Kundalini can be triggered when the person is not ready and some difficulties can happen. Unfortunatley this can be seen as evil by those ignorant of the truth. I witnessed it myself when a young girl had a Kundalini awakening while worshiping in bile study. The pastor didn't understand what it was and assumed it was 'demonic posession'.

Such a shame.

I say this based on personal experience, not just book knowledge.
 Quoting: Source 5792164


I like what you say. Of course it's alright. It is a part of you and me and all of us humans. You have been blessed with a little enlightenment, but as you must know "it" must be controlled. When someone says you have to be ready I guess "ready" means one makes few errors, or doesn't sin, and they are ready because the serpent has nothing to grab onto (or something to this effect.) Goody for them! I am not perfect so the serpent plays on my faults - and I don't like it.

Question: are there people who believe we can cleanse our chakras to a point of driving the serpent up and out? !! because I personally would like him out.

Yes. A lot of people do not know what is real, but thankfully we can share what we know and try to learn more.
 Quoting: honest gail 56790381


There is no doubt that in addition to our physical body, we also have a "soul" body. This soul body contains meridians or channels through which Prana or Chi flows. Our nervous and endocrine systems are the physical representation in 3D of these hyper-dimensional channels.

Knowledge of this energy system has been the central tenant of eastern and western medicine and spiritual understanding for aeons. The caduceus (the staff with the two snakes climbing up and the wings at the top) is a vivid symbol of these energies and of Kundalini itself. The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead.

The staff that was raised by Moses and cured those bitten by the venomous snakes in the desert is another clue here.

When Kundalini encounters blockages in the energy body the results can be unpleasant. All we can do is have faith in God and allow this divine energy to do it's work.

Don't fear it or it may become a real problem.

If you are having a very difficult time with the process, there are people who may be able to help...

[link to spiritualemergence.net]
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How do you know these things, that "The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead?" How do you know what you say is true? or what they meant with the symbols?
Can you tell me firsthand? or are you quoting something? (and, humbly, I've been trying for ages to understand the Moses thing with the staff and the serpent because it never made sense to me. Thank you.
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What was your experience with Kundalini? Did it happen spontaneously? Did you have physical symptoms like sensations along your spine?

Kundalini is the "life force" which governs the creation of our bodies in the womb through the divine intelligence then settles at the base of the spine.

At certain times in our life, through meditation and prayer or yoga or tai chi or even the use of entheogens, the Kundalini rises back up through the seven chakras (these are the seven churches, lampstands from Revelations.
)
It really is alright. Sometimes Kundalini can be triggered when the person is not ready and some difficulties can happen. Unfortunatley this can be seen as evil by those ignorant of the truth. I witnessed it myself when a young girl had a Kundalini awakening while worshiping in bile study. The pastor didn't understand what it was and assumed it was 'demonic posession'.

Such a shame.

I say this based on personal experience, not just book knowledge.
 Quoting: Source 5792164


I like what you say. Of course it's alright. It is a part of you and me and all of us humans. You have been blessed with a little enlightenment, but as you must know "it" must be controlled. When someone says you have to be ready I guess "ready" means one makes few errors, or doesn't sin, and they are ready because the serpent has nothing to grab onto (or something to this effect.) Goody for them! I am not perfect so the serpent plays on my faults - and I don't like it.

Question: are there people who believe we can cleanse our chakras to a point of driving the serpent up and out? !! because I personally would like him out.

Yes. A lot of people do not know what is real, but thankfully we can share what we know and try to learn more.
 Quoting: honest gail 56790381


There is no doubt that in addition to our physical body, we also have a "soul" body. This soul body contains meridians or channels through which Prana or Chi flows. Our nervous and endocrine systems are the physical representation in 3D of these hyper-dimensional channels.

Knowledge of this energy system has been the central tenant of eastern and western medicine and spiritual understanding for aeons. The caduceus (the staff with the two snakes climbing up and the wings at the top) is a vivid symbol of these energies and of Kundalini itself. The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead.

The staff that was raised by Moses and cured those bitten by the venomous snakes in the desert is another clue here.

When Kundalini encounters blockages in the energy body the results can be unpleasant. All we can do is have faith in God and allow this divine energy to do it's work.

Don't fear it or it may become a real problem.

If you are having a very difficult time with the process, there are people who may be able to help...

[link to spiritualemergence.net]
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How do you know these things, that "The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead?" How do you know what you say is true? or what they meant with the symbols?
Can you tell me firsthand? or are you quoting something? (and, humbly, I've been trying for ages to understand the Moses thing with the staff and the serpent because it never made sense to me. Thank you.
 Quoting: honest gail 56790381


I had a kind of premature Kundalini awakening that took me over a decade to come to full terms with.

There are no words that I can type that will make you believe me and that is exactly how it should be. For those who have not experienced it, no words will suffice to make them believe. For those who have, no words can do it justice. Even trying to put it into words feels blasphemous and I always have the feeling that I should wash my mouth with soap whenever I try.

I am not quoting anything directly, only reformulating in concise words the teachings passed down through thousands of years. These teachings are universal and are ubiquitous because they all have the same source.

Once you have the direct experience the symbols all make sense. But symbols are all they are. In the same way that the word "tree" represents the real thing but is not it, so too the symbols such as that of the caduceus and Moses' staff represent the real thing but are not it.

All things are in God and God is in all things. Have no fear!
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What was your experience with Kundalini? Did it happen spontaneously? Did you have physical symptoms like sensations along your spine?

Kundalini is the "life force" which governs the creation of our bodies in the womb through the divine intelligence then settles at the base of the spine.

At certain times in our life, through meditation and prayer or yoga or tai chi or even the use of entheogens, the Kundalini rises back up through the seven chakras (these are the seven churches, lampstands from Revelations.
)
It really is alright. Sometimes Kundalini can be triggered when the person is not ready and some difficulties can happen. Unfortunatley this can be seen as evil by those ignorant of the truth. I witnessed it myself when a young girl had a Kundalini awakening while worshiping in bile study. The pastor didn't understand what it was and assumed it was 'demonic posession'.

Such a shame.

I say this based on personal experience, not just book knowledge.
 Quoting: Source 5792164


I like what you say. Of course it's alright. It is a part of you and me and all of us humans. You have been blessed with a little enlightenment, but as you must know "it" must be controlled. When someone says you have to be ready I guess "ready" means one makes few errors, or doesn't sin, and they are ready because the serpent has nothing to grab onto (or something to this effect.) Goody for them! I am not perfect so the serpent plays on my faults - and I don't like it.

Question: are there people who believe we can cleanse our chakras to a point of driving the serpent up and out? !! because I personally would like him out.

Yes. A lot of people do not know what is real, but thankfully we can share what we know and try to learn more.
 Quoting: honest gail 56790381


There is no doubt that in addition to our physical body, we also have a "soul" body. This soul body contains meridians or channels through which Prana or Chi flows. Our nervous and endocrine systems are the physical representation in 3D of these hyper-dimensional channels.

Knowledge of this energy system has been the central tenant of eastern and western medicine and spiritual understanding for aeons. The caduceus (the staff with the two snakes climbing up and the wings at the top) is a vivid symbol of these energies and of Kundalini itself. The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead.

The staff that was raised by Moses and cured those bitten by the venomous snakes in the desert is another clue here.

When Kundalini encounters blockages in the energy body the results can be unpleasant. All we can do is have faith in God and allow this divine energy to do it's work.

Don't fear it or it may become a real problem.

If you are having a very difficult time with the process, there are people who may be able to help...

[link to spiritualemergence.net]
 Quoting: Source 2710581


How do you know these things, that "The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead?" How do you know what you say is true? or what they meant with the symbols?
Can you tell me firsthand? or are you quoting something? (and, humbly, I've been trying for ages to understand the Moses thing with the staff and the serpent because it never made sense to me. Thank you.
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They don't know these things except that they read them. They will not believe what is in scripture, but will believe someone's interpretation of scripture if it's given a new age Hindu Buddhist slant.
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Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies  in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron... (1 Timothy 4:1-2)
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I like what you say. Of course it's alright. It is a part of you and me and all of us humans. You have been blessed with a little enlightenment, but as you must know "it" must be controlled. When someone says you have to be ready I guess "ready" means one makes few errors, or doesn't sin, and they are ready because the serpent has nothing to grab onto (or something to this effect.) Goody for them! I am not perfect so the serpent plays on my faults - and I don't like it.

Question: are there people who believe we can cleanse our chakras to a point of driving the serpent up and out? !! because I personally would like him out.

Yes. A lot of people do not know what is real, but thankfully we can share what we know and try to learn more.
 Quoting: honest gail 56790381


There is no doubt that in addition to our physical body, we also have a "soul" body. This soul body contains meridians or channels through which Prana or Chi flows. Our nervous and endocrine systems are the physical representation in 3D of these hyper-dimensional channels.

Knowledge of this energy system has been the central tenant of eastern and western medicine and spiritual understanding for aeons. The caduceus (the staff with the two snakes climbing up and the wings at the top) is a vivid symbol of these energies and of Kundalini itself. The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead.

The staff that was raised by Moses and cured those bitten by the venomous snakes in the desert is another clue here.

When Kundalini encounters blockages in the energy body the results can be unpleasant. All we can do is have faith in God and allow this divine energy to do it's work.

Don't fear it or it may become a real problem.

If you are having a very difficult time with the process, there are people who may be able to help...

[link to spiritualemergence.net]
 Quoting: Source 2710581


How do you know these things, that "The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead?" How do you know what you say is true? or what they meant with the symbols?
Can you tell me firsthand? or are you quoting something? (and, humbly, I've been trying for ages to understand the Moses thing with the staff and the serpent because it never made sense to me. Thank you.
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They don't know these things except that they read them. They will not believe what is in scripture, but will believe someone's interpretation of scripture if it's given a new age Hindu Buddhist slant.
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I know from direct experience.

When you experience it first hand you will no longer need to rely on the interpretation of others.
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Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies  in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron... (1 Timothy 4:1-2)
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This began to occur over 1500 years ago when the true and clear teachings were censored and destroyed by the early "Church".

They did not want us to experience God directly but to rely on the dogma that they used to enslave mankind. To this end they sought to destroy all knowledge of the truth... burning the library of Alexandria, tearing down the Elusian temple, etc
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Just because it's called "the serpent energy"?
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calling lust 'kundalin' just removes the sinful connotation of feeling lust or masturbating and all that. You should be using your love energy for people, which is not sexual.

feeling sexual energy towards people is not really love, it is only suitable for creating life, creating children you love. Desire to create children you would not love is like a god creating a universe he does not care about. God does not love you if you feel those feelings, that is where the shame of feeling those feelings comes from.
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I will look that book up, but the fact that you used the word assimilate makes accepting kundalini energy seem equivalent to being taken into the Borg.
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Anything that destroys the ego can be seen as frightening. Assimilation into the pure divine energy implies the dissolution of the "self". "You" cannot exist in the presence of God.

"Deny your self, pick up your cross and follow me"

"He who saves his life shall lose it but he who loses his life for my sake shall save it"

"The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness"
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Choosing to deny oneself, choosing to place God's will first before our own is not the same thing as allowing yourself to be taken over and assimilated by some kind of spirit/energy.
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I disagree. The spirit/energy is from God. It is nothing to fear although the ego becomes threatened and fear may arise when it happens.

Remember the tongues of flame over the heads of the disciples at pentacost?

Kundalini
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Tongues of flame? I'll need more information on that.

The ego feels threatened? and so fear somes?
My ego, or the "I", thought it was cool (seeing the serpent). I wasn't scared, but felt great fear that I could not understand. It took me years to figure it out. I thought the fear I had felt was some kind of hallucination, but now I believe Kundalini is fear itself. "The only thing to fear is fear itself," but I never feared it and still don't. I just now know fear is coming from. Fear is alive and well and displays itself as jealousy, hate, anger, etc., and I believe this all comes from the serpent. I learned this after years and years of self-examination (of the energy of the serpent that I saw).

Because of what I've seen and experienced, I believe that Kundalini initiates fear, which we see in the form of jealousy, etc., and all the bad stuff. It also, for sure, initiates bad thoughts that oppose the truth, and sends them directly into our heads (with no invitation from us).
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Anything that destroys the ego can be seen as frightening. Assimilation into the pure divine energy implies the dissolution of the "self". "You" cannot exist in the presence of God.

"Deny your self, pick up your cross and follow me"

"He who saves his life shall lose it but he who loses his life for my sake shall save it"

"The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness"
 Quoting: Source 5792164


Choosing to deny oneself, choosing to place God's will first before our own is not the same thing as allowing yourself to be taken over and assimilated by some kind of spirit/energy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15762023


Also,
I can most definitely "exist" in the presence of God. I do it all the time. You do too. We are not Him.

What I can't figure out is why people want to allow themselves to disappear into this so called universal oneness. There is nothing we have to do to become with the universe. We already are by virtue of the fact that we are all made from the same material of this universe. We are connected to everything already on a molecular level. We all share energy and light.

Is kundalini about self empowerment under the guise of fake ego annihilation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15762023


Great point. You are correct when you say that there is nothing we need to do to connect with God/Source because we never left it. The problem is ignorance of this fact and the ego's insistence that we are seperate.

This false idea that we are seperate is the cause of suffering.

The reason why some people are willing to give up this false notion of self is because we are tired of incarnating in the wheel of samsara.
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We do separate from the presence of God and I'll tell you how I know this. I asked a question of the energy that had entered my heart years earlier, "how can you help all these people just by my loving you?" My answer was the witnessing of a new energy and I felt the two energies (love and justice) at the same time: the pure love energy that came and lives in my heart, and a new energy that I know is the all-powerful God (just no time to explain the experience of how I know here. However, I posted a short explanation on another post). You'll never believe me in short, but here goes (which is to say, you will believe me if you were to get the entire story): I was feeling both energies at the same time and had extra time to ask this "new energy" a question. I asked, "how would you feel if I snorted the cocaine off the mirror?" and my answer was, the new energy vanished and I could no longer feel it. So, I said, "okay. I won't." And it immediately came back (the hundred thousand billion hurricanes blowing through me that felt like pure justice). Having even more time with both energies still present, I asked another question, "how would you feel if I smoked a cigarette?" Again, the "new" energy was totally gone. Again, I said, "okay. I won't smoke." And again, the all-powerful justice energy came back and I was feeling both energies at the same time again. Then the experience ended.

This is how I know that we lose contact through sin. Maybe I'm concluding prematurely, but I don't think so because this taught me how to pray - and I do it pretty good (it's like shooting pool: you can get good at it!)
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Re: Why do Christians think the Kundalini has to do with satan?
Just because it's called "the serpent energy"?
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Some christians think everything has to do with satan.
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I like what you say. Of course it's alright. It is a part of you and me and all of us humans. You have been blessed with a little enlightenment, but as you must know "it" must be controlled. When someone says you have to be ready I guess "ready" means one makes few errors, or doesn't sin, and they are ready because the serpent has nothing to grab onto (or something to this effect.) Goody for them! I am not perfect so the serpent plays on my faults - and I don't like it.

Question: are there people who believe we can cleanse our chakras to a point of driving the serpent up and out? !! because I personally would like him out.

Yes. A lot of people do not know what is real, but thankfully we can share what we know and try to learn more.
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There is no doubt that in addition to our physical body, we also have a "soul" body. This soul body contains meridians or channels through which Prana or Chi flows. Our nervous and endocrine systems are the physical representation in 3D of these hyper-dimensional channels.

Knowledge of this energy system has been the central tenant of eastern and western medicine and spiritual understanding for aeons. The caduceus (the staff with the two snakes climbing up and the wings at the top) is a vivid symbol of these energies and of Kundalini itself. The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead.

The staff that was raised by Moses and cured those bitten by the venomous snakes in the desert is another clue here.

When Kundalini encounters blockages in the energy body the results can be unpleasant. All we can do is have faith in God and allow this divine energy to do it's work.

Don't fear it or it may become a real problem.

If you are having a very difficult time with the process, there are people who may be able to help...

[link to spiritualemergence.net]
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How do you know these things, that "The wings represent the final culmination when the Kundalini finally pours through the crown chakra and the soul is re-united with the Godhead?" How do you know what you say is true? or what they meant with the symbols?
Can you tell me firsthand? or are you quoting something? (and, humbly, I've been trying for ages to understand the Moses thing with the staff and the serpent because it never made sense to me. Thank you.
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I had a kind of premature Kundalini awakening that took me over a decade to come to full terms with.

There are no words that I can type that will make you believe me and that is exactly how it should be. For those who have not experienced it, no words will suffice to make them believe. For those who have, no words can do it justice. Even trying to put it into words feels blasphemous and I always have the feeling that I should wash my mouth with soap whenever I try.

I am not quoting anything directly, only reformulating in concise words the teachings passed down through thousands of years. These teachings are universal and are ubiquitous because they all have the same source.

Once you have the direct experience the symbols all make sense. But symbols are all they are. In the same way that the word "tree" represents the real thing but is not it, so too the symbols such as that of the caduceus and Moses' staff represent the real thing but are not it.

All things are in God and God is in all things. Have no fear!
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You said, "Once you have the direct experience the symbols all make sense."
Well, they don't make sense to me.
You also said that you are "reformulating in concise words", which I appreciate; does this means it is your opinion or just restating what you heard? I hope it is your opinion (based on experience) and I appreciate your opinion very much.
Please describe your experience as exactly and precisely as possible so I can try to understand why you feel the wings represent the uniting of kundalini with the Godhead? Also, please tell me what you experienced in what you call your "premature kundalini awakening" as a child? And what happened later to make you believe your theory as it relates to the wings of the caduceus?
THANK YOU very much for all the time this might take you to answer.
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Re: Why do Christians think the Kundalini has to do with satan?
I thought her name was Kondaleeza Rice?
I didnt know she was bride of satan.
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Re: Why do Christians think the Kundalini has to do with satan?
Okay. I asked around and found out where the wings of the caduceus (the wings on top on the medical symbol with the serpents rising) come from. The wings were added in the early 1900's. and the second serpent was also added sometime later by who-knows-who.

Now the symbol makes sense to me. The wings were NOT part of the original caduceus symbol. Neither, also, did the symbol originally have TWO serpents!

So, no wings and only one serpent rising up.
Exactly what I'm saying... the serpent is the problem that comes up the shaft (according to the original symbol anyway)
NO WINGS!
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Just because it's called "the serpent energy"?
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Some christians think everything has to do with satan.
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christians don't think , they fart with their brains. the only thing they dont consider evil is priests fuckin and abusing underage kids.
I have been abused by a catholic priest in a catholic school when i was 9 years old, burn 'em
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Just because it's called "the serpent energy"?
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Some christians think everything has to do with satan.
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christians don't think , they fart with their brains. the only thing they dont consider evil is priests fuckin and abusing underage kids.
I have been abused by a catholic priest in a catholic school when i was 9 years old, burn 'em
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Oh, you can burn them! You can burn them by loving them! It is so easy to hate them though, those that hurt us, but it only ends-up hurting oneself (and empowering and strengthening evil).

The key to revenge is to love them. I'm telling you the truth. (it is magic like none you've ever seen!)

Vengeance is mine saith the Lord - and this is because the power of Pure Justice (God energy) travels through love. You can kick their socks off, mildly speaking, by loving them.

It takes a little more practice than just saying "love them", but basically, LOVE is the key (and the door) to justice. Justice can be literally sent into people's lives through loving them; and this energy or power of pure justice is stringent and unbending toward its goal of justice. But it only travels through love. Seems like a contradiction, but it isn't.

It is hard to love your enemies at first. I personally had to put a picture of my mother in my mind and a picture of my enemy behind her. I would feel love for my mother; then move her picture away - result: temporarily loving my enemy. Sounds selfish (to love them for revenge), but it sure works well. Then while loving them, you just say to yourself - God help them - and if they are making bad choices, He will kick them for their own good! Praise the Lord.

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