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OK, I will make this short. I was watching C-SPAN, and they were debating the health care bill, and the question was asked:

"What is this going to cost ME?"


Well, I have your answer right here.

[link to healthreform.kff.org]

This website was promoted by the bearded guy on C-SPAN, and you can go here and calculate YOUR monthly payment (just divide the yearly payment by 12, of course hehe), see what it will cost YOU.


I'd sure like to know where my (single, $40k a year, High risk area) $316.91 is going to come from a month.

Shit, If I had that kind of free money, I'd feel like I'd gotten somewhere in the world.


Go check it, post your results. HERE is truth.
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It's so funny to follow this place with all of you guys being totally shocked about every new detail you learn about government health care....

wake up you fucking morons, america is not the only nation on this planet having that kind of system. Why dont you just read a little about other nations employing such kind of system ?
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It's so funny to follow this place with all of you guys being totally shocked about every new detail you learn about government health care....

wake up you fucking morons, america is not the only nation on this planet having that kind of system. Why dont you just read a little about other nations employing such kind of system ?
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Do you go to jail in your country if you choose not to participate?
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It's so funny to follow this place with all of you guys being totally shocked about every new detail you learn about government health care....

wake up you fucking morons, america is not the only nation on this planet having that kind of system. Why dont you just read a little about other nations employing such kind of system ?
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Fuck you my health care will triple and I very rarely go to a doc
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I checked myself, upped my income a bit just to see. Managed to get 350/month. At 40,000 a year, that is about 1/10 of my income or 10%. personally I'd be willing to pay for it.
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I checked myself, upped my income a bit just to see. Managed to get 350/month. At 40,000 a year, that is about 1/10 of my income or 10%. personally I'd be willing to pay for it.
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And there is nothing wrong with that, at all.


My whole issue is, what about the people who do not want, or can not afford.


I fall in BOTH.
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Doesn't matter if you make 20K or 20 million you stil pay 3169 per year. Under 20K says Medicade.
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

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OK, I will make this short. I was watching C-SPAN, and they were debating the health care bill, and the question was asked:

"What is this going to cost ME?"


Well, I have your answer right here.

[link to healthreform.kff.org]

This website was promoted by the bearded guy on C-SPAN, and you can go here and calculate YOUR monthly payment (just divide the yearly payment by 12, of course hehe), see what it will cost YOU.


I'd sure like to know where my (single, $40k a year, High risk area) $316.91 is going to come from a month.

Shit, If I had that kind of free money, I'd feel like I'd gotten somewhere in the world.


Go check it, post your results. HERE is truth.
 Quoting: oneAC 686411


Are you saying you're single, make 40k/year, but can't afford $316.91/month?


cry
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OK, I will make this short. I was watching C-SPAN, and they were debating the health care bill, and the question was asked:

"What is this going to cost ME?"


Well, I have your answer right here.

[link to healthreform.kff.org]

This website was promoted by the bearded guy on C-SPAN, and you can go here and calculate YOUR monthly payment (just divide the yearly payment by 12, of course hehe), see what it will cost YOU.


I'd sure like to know where my (single, $40k a year, High risk area) $316.91 is going to come from a month.

Shit, If I had that kind of free money, I'd feel like I'd gotten somewhere in the world.


Go check it, post your results. HERE is truth.


Are you saying you're single, make 40k/year, but can't afford $316.91/month?


cry
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 807177


Can't/do not want to/shouldn't be forced to, is what I am saying.

If I want to spend my 3xx.00 a month on whatever, it should be MY business.

No, it isn't crying. It is asking "where did my freedom of choice go?".
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Hehe, my first Pin.

:D
Thanks



Look, if you want this kind of health care, by all means, spend your money on it. Just don't tell me I should do the same thing.

Next thing you know, you will tell me where to go to church.

Where to get my hair cut.

Where to drive my car.

Where to speak.

You get my point.
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DAMN THATS CHEAP BRING IT ON.
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OK, I will make this short. I was watching C-SPAN, and they were debating the health care bill, and the question was asked:

"What is this going to cost ME?"


Well, I have your answer right here.

[link to healthreform.kff.org]

This website was promoted by the bearded guy on C-SPAN, and you can go here and calculate YOUR monthly payment (just divide the yearly payment by 12, of course hehe), see what it will cost YOU.


I'd sure like to know where my (single, $40k a year, High risk area) $316.91 is going to come from a month.

Shit, If I had that kind of free money, I'd feel like I'd gotten somewhere in the world.


Go check it, post your results. HERE is truth.
 Quoting: oneAC 686411



wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf burnit

People are going to stop filing their taxes en mass now and that is a good thing.
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OK, I will make this short. I was watching C-SPAN, and they were debating the health care bill, and the question was asked:

"What is this going to cost ME?"


Well, I have your answer right here.

[link to healthreform.kff.org]

This website was promoted by the bearded guy on C-SPAN, and you can go here and calculate YOUR monthly payment (just divide the yearly payment by 12, of course hehe), see what it will cost YOU.


I'd sure like to know where my (single, $40k a year, High risk area) $316.91 is going to come from a month.

Shit, If I had that kind of free money, I'd feel like I'd gotten somewhere in the world.


Go check it, post your results. HERE is truth.



guess you'll have to choose between

food

paying your forced government insurance bill

or going to jail

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NO, WORK CAMPS and we all know it. This is one cog in that whole plan.
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DAMN THATS CHEAP BRING IT ON.
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Bullshit. I spent that much per month on health supplements and got my fibromialgia complete symptom free. Now they want me to give THEM that money.

The dumbasses will "get it" soon enough.
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OK, I will make this short. I was watching C-SPAN, and they were debating the health care bill, and the question was asked:

"What is this going to cost ME?"


Well, I have your answer right here.

[link to healthreform.kff.org]

This website was promoted by the bearded guy on C-SPAN, and you can go here and calculate YOUR monthly payment (just divide the yearly payment by 12, of course hehe), see what it will cost YOU.


I'd sure like to know where my (single, $40k a year, High risk area) $316.91 is going to come from a month.

Shit, If I had that kind of free money, I'd feel like I'd gotten somewhere in the world.


Go check it, post your results. HERE is truth.


Are you saying you're single, make 40k/year, but can't afford $316.91/month?


cry
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Thats (316.91) like a second car payment...and if you're making 40,000 a year in calif. it aint shit


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It's so funny to follow this place with all of you guys being totally shocked about every new detail you learn about government health care....

wake up you fucking morons, america is not the only nation on this planet having that kind of system. Why dont you just read a little about other nations employing such kind of system ?
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So if other Countries..

Jump off planet..

America should Too ??


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OK, I will make this short. I was watching C-SPAN, and they were debating the health care bill, and the question was asked:

"What is this going to cost ME?"


Well, I have your answer right here.

[link to healthreform.kff.org]

This website was promoted by the bearded guy on C-SPAN, and you can go here and calculate YOUR monthly payment (just divide the yearly payment by 12, of course hehe), see what it will cost YOU.


I'd sure like to know where my (single, $40k a year, High risk area) $316.91 is going to come from a month.

Shit, If I had that kind of free money, I'd feel like I'd gotten somewhere in the world.


Go check it, post your results. HERE is truth.


Are you saying you're single, make 40k/year, but can't afford $316.91/month?


cry


Can't/do not want to/shouldn't be forced to, is what I am saying.

If I want to spend my 3xx.00 a month on whatever, it should be MY business.

No, it isn't crying. It is asking "where did my freedom of choice go?".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 686411


It's crying. I'm not clear on this, are you saying you don't have insurance now? Because if that's the case that just means you are irresponsible. You can afford it, so that's not the issue...

If something happen's to you then guess who pays for it? Everyone who does pay for insurance is paying for your sorry ass. And just because you are healthy now doesn't mean you always will be. Sure as shit you will need hospital care at some point in your life.
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OK, I will make this short. I was watching C-SPAN, and they were debating the health care bill, and the question was asked:

"What is this going to cost ME?"


Well, I have your answer right here.

[link to healthreform.kff.org]

This website was promoted by the bearded guy on C-SPAN, and you can go here and calculate YOUR monthly payment (just divide the yearly payment by 12, of course hehe), see what it will cost YOU.


I'd sure like to know where my (single, $40k a year, High risk area) $316.91 is going to come from a month.

Shit, If I had that kind of free money, I'd feel like I'd gotten somewhere in the world.


Go check it, post your results. HERE is truth.


Are you saying you're single, make 40k/year, but can't afford $316.91/month?


cry

Thats (316.91) like a second car payment...and if you're making 40,000 a year in calif. it aint shit


rant
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Exactly.

I'm not trying to say "OMG FREAK OUT", I am simply saying, that is a lot of money to FORCE on people, just out of the blue, with no say whatsoever BY the people.

Dude, after house/car/ins/elec/net/phone/food, there isn't a lot of money left there, figure it up yourself.
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It's so funny to follow this place with all of you guys being totally shocked about every new detail you learn about government health care....

wake up you fucking morons, america is not the only nation on this planet having that kind of system. Why dont you just read a little about other nations employing such kind of system ?

Fuck you my health care will triple and I very rarely go to a doc
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Ours would be $1,141/year, about $95/month. I think we can swing that. HOWEVER, not going to be vaccinated as a part of the bill.
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It's crying. I'm not clear on this, are you saying you don't have insurance now? Because if that's the case that just means you are irresponsible. You can afford it, so that's not the issue...

If something happen's to you then guess who pays for it? Everyone who does pay for insurance is paying for your sorry ass. And just because you are healthy now doesn't mean you always will be. Sure as shit you will need hospital care at some point in your life.
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First, you assumed the fact that I would seek treatment from the hospital.

Is that a given?



Also, you do the figuring on 40k a year.

You have to live/drive/eat/ins/elec.
Yes, food and internet are optional I suppose.


The only thing that is wrong with this bill is that people don't have the option to say "no thanks".

You cannot tell me I am irresponsible because I don't have health insurance. You pay for what you can afford.
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If something happen's to you then guess who pays for it? Everyone who does pay for insurance is paying for your sorry ass. And just because you are healthy now doesn't mean you always will be. Sure as shit you will need hospital care at some point in your life.
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Just like this bill will make you pay for every illegal in this country, but THEY will not be FORCED to participate, except in the beneficial aspects, of course.




Give me a break. Follow the pied piper all you want, just don't tell me I have to get in line.
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It's crying. I'm not clear on this, are you saying you don't have insurance now? Because if that's the case that just means you are irresponsible. You can afford it, so that's not the issue...

If something happen's to you then guess who pays for it? Everyone who does pay for insurance is paying for your sorry ass. And just because you are healthy now doesn't mean you always will be. Sure as shit you will need hospital care at some point in your life.



First, you assumed the fact that I would seek treatment from the hospital.

Is that a given?



Also, you do the figuring on 40k a year.

You have to live/drive/eat/ins/elec.
Yes, food and internet are optional I suppose.


The only thing that is wrong with this bill is that people don't have the option to say "no thanks".

You cannot tell me I am irresponsible because I don't have health insurance. You pay for what you can afford.
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So you're saying if you're in a car accident you will say, "No no, I don't want to go to the hospital, just let me bleed to death."?

Even if you think that's the case now you'll be singing a different tune if it actually happens. Or if you get cancer, or heart disease, (and it's HIGHLY likely you will get one of those if you live long enough) you will want to be treated. And if you haven't been paying into insurance all along who do you think pays for that? Hmmm?

You most certainly are irresponsible if you don't have insurance and are making 40k/year. And if your bills are so high you can't afford $300/month on 40k/year then you need to stop living beyond your means. Maybe you need to skip a few luxuries, but there's no way, even in Ca., that you can't afford that as a single person.
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guess you'll have to choose between

food

paying your forced government insurance bill

or going to jail


I hear the food and the health care are free in jail. HEY EVERYONE, LETS ALL GO TO JAIL!!! Lets all just refuse to pay the health care tax and let them provide us ALL with free room and board and adequate health care and see how it works out.
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If something happen's to you then guess who pays for it? Everyone who does pay for insurance is paying for your sorry ass. And just because you are healthy now doesn't mean you always will be. Sure as shit you will need hospital care at some point in your life.


Just like this bill will make you pay for every illegal in this country, but THEY will not be FORCED to participate, except in the beneficial aspects, of course.




Give me a break. Follow the pied piper all you want, just don't tell me I have to get in line.
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Illegals won't be allowed to "participate" but we are already paying for their emergency room visits. As far as I'm concerned we should let them participate if that means they will be paying into the system.
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mmmm mmmmm mmmmm
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So you're saying if you're in a car accident you will say, "No no, I don't want to go to the hospital, just let me bleed to death."?
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Yes, I have DNR orders, legal.

Even if you think that's the case now you'll be singing a different tune if it actually happens. Or if you get cancer, or heart disease, (and it's HIGHLY likely you will get one of those if you live long enough) you will want to be treated. And if you haven't been paying into insurance all along who do you think pays for that? Hmmm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 807177

There you go again, being all psychic and knowing that I will change my tune.
Some people have their OWN beliefs, instead of following everyone else's.
Cancer? Sorry, no chemo for me.
Heart Disease? Guess I'll meet God, eh?
I had insurance at my last job. I never went to the Dr. Sorry, no big pharma candy for me.


You most certainly are irresponsible if you don't have insurance and are making 40k/year. And if your bills are so high you can't afford $300/month on 40k/year then you need to stop living beyond your means. Maybe you need to skip a few luxuries, but there's no way, even in Ca., that you can't afford that as a single person.
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Yes, I should be forced to give what little money I have away, while the rich become richer, and the poor become poorer.
Which should I give up? House Payment? Car Payment? Food? Car Insurance? Electricity? Oh, I agree with you that I shouldn't have TV/Phone, but it's cheaper to purchase internet in a package where I live.
Now, on top of home owner's insurance, taxes already paid, TRYING to save money, where should I pull this nothingness of money from, being it is so little. Hell, maybe a nice fella like you would donate it to me?
No, I don't live in Cali, I live in the middle of nowhere, the best place to be.
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Illegals won't be allowed to "participate" but we are already paying for their emergency room visits. As far as I'm concerned we should let them participate if that means they will be paying into the system.



From what I have read, they CAN participate, but will not be fined/jailed for not.


Double standard? No?
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A DNR order just means they won't give you CPR. As for the rest, like I said, we'll see if you are singing the same song when/if anything happens.

And all the whining about how little you make? Sheesh! You're income is well above average and is almost the median income for families!!! If you can't live on that as a single person "out in the boonies" then you are spoiled rotten, which is pretty much how you are acting in this thread.
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How about the rationing of benefits if there is not enough money to cover them?

Won't have to worry about that chemo then because it won't be an option. And must first be deemed as "cost effective" as does every other treatment.

This is just the premium, too. You still have to pay deductible and co-payments.
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A DNR order just means they won't give you CPR. As for the rest, like I said, we'll see if you are singing the same song when/if anything happens.

And all the whining about how little you make? Sheesh! You're income is well above average and is almost the median income for families!!! If you can't live on that as a single person "out in the boonies" then you are spoiled rotten, which is pretty much how you are acting in this thread.
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Yes, I'm spoiled rotten.

I pay for my own house/car/bills/everything.

I've WORKED to get what I have.

How, oh how, does that make me spoiled?

Please tell me.

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