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Fox Moulder
03/27/2005 04:17 PM
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Well,

I thought I´d break my silence and talk about things in my neck of the woods for a while.

I have been removed from the Operation Terra forums by Lyara for advocating the authenticity, relivance and incite of this site here. www.organelle.org

If its a crime to be curious about other paths, then I guess I´m guilty as charged.

The latest message from the Hosts is interesting because they mention somethings which I feel pertain to me and others of the OT team who might have chosen what I appear to have chosen. Here is a quote from the latest mesage.

~~ "Our voice speaks directly to those relative few who are going to be the pioneers associated with Terra. Those who are drawn to other teachings are not going to Terra at this time, but may at a later point in time, after the Creation is refreshed and begun anew." ~~

So what I´m thinking is that I´ve chosen to go to Terra after the omega piont is reached. This buys me some extra time to explore the teachings of other paths and do things in my own particular unique way.

I must admitt that its been a bit shocking to be removed from the OT forums and then later to read from the hosts that I will not even be going to Terra with all the others at this time. I know that most of the members on the OT forums are emotionally very dependant on Lyara and there is a chronic fear of ostracism that plauges the forums.

In meditating and relexing upon this, I´ve reasoned that this fear of ostracism is extremely powerful and acts against ones best interests and highest good. This fear needs to be challenged and cleared properly in order for an individual to see things clearly and truthfully the way God sees things.

I don´t feel that I´ve done any harm in chosing what I have chosen and I feel that I am going in the right direction, its just that its a bit unnerving at times to figure this all out and trust that we are going to where we are sopost to go. Curage, and trust in our own path, (whatever that may be) is the most powerful and useful thing we can do for ourselves. The creator is an extremely playful entity and trusting it is the most empowering thing we can do, for only the creator truely knows what we are and what it would like for us to experience next.

Peace,

Fox

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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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It is a lesson for you, means that you should look how it feels and try to check which situation in your past or childhood it resembles.
Walk trough the repressed emotions but do not act them.
It will change completely when you are through.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Helloooo..

That is CULT behavior, ostracizing those who choose to follow their narrow belief systems...it mental and emotional abuse as well!

Good for you...follow your heart, learn what there is to learn out there. Its a HUGE world! May love bless you on your journey. You made the right choice!
Peace
flower
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Interesting,

If you are correct about this, then I wonder how it will be when "I am through."
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Hello 78,

Thank you for your positive words but I don´t feel that Operation Terra is a cult. This has actually been a fear of mine for sometime, because I have been worried at times that it might get "derailed" somehow and begin falling into cult behavior type stuff. But Lyara is not of the kind of personality to become a cult leader. She doesn´t posses the raw power hungry desires that cult leaders posses. Those on the OT forums can FEEL what her intent is and its purely benevolent. She likes to grow life and admire its "special goodies."

Peace :)

Fox
AveRage
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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"If you are correct about this, then I wonder how it will be when "I am through."

A certain resonance takes normally from hours to maximum days to walk through for me.
It depends on how I dare to look into the face of my old emotions.
You can ask that the divine forces to show you the exact quality and kind of the problem.
This works for me.
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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User ID: 11342,

If you are still here, and willing, I was curious if you could elaborate on what you have said.

How do you know this is a "lesson" for me?

How do you know that there is a corrosponding situation in my past that resembles what has happened?

Have you read Operation Terra?

Are you psychic?

I´m curious....

Thank you for your incite and time,

Fox
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Hi Fox!
A "cult" does not necessarily mean that the leader will demand all your money or have you drink poisened kool-aid at there command. Any "leader" of any type of organization be it social, political, spiritual-or even family unit-
that does not allow you the freedom to question them, their belief, judgement etc. without some type of criticism is BIG trouble. Typically then when they hear people disagreeing... you, and the rest of the group that questions are told you will not make it to the "promised land" or will suffer in some type of way for being outside of the circle. This is controller and it IS ABUSIVE period. No matter how nice and sweet they say it, or how loving you percieve the tone to be. Ultimately, they are telling you that you are "bad" in someway, unenlightened...whatever. You see my point? She doesn´t want dissention in the ranks...much like a dicatator, or religious zealot.
A loving person will allow you the freedom to explore, disagree, and maybe even allow themselve to learn a thing or to FROM YOU!
Like I said before, you made the right choice and as you meet new folks I think you will come to see this.

P.S. I have nothing against this Lyara personally as I know nothing about Operation Terra, but I have worked for 8 years as a counselor who has helped abuse survivor, believe me I know it when I see it.
rose
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Oh,

You´ve already replied...


I guess for me, its all about "forbidden activities." What I mean is that somethings are forbidden and when I participate in certain forbidden activities, (as chosen by the Hosts from Heaven or Lyara) then I am "quarenteened" in a matter of speaking and this causes fears of ostracism to come up. In truth, nothing really bad has happened. Going to Terra on one side of the Omega point or the other side is really not a big deal. Its just these feelings of being cut off from "the others like me" that are so hard to deal with. Humans are so controled by our animal sides and animal concerns, that we really offer little resistance to those that might manipulate us (who happen to know just how to trigger our animal emotions.)

I´m not sure if I´m being manipulated but I like to question everything, all the time, to ensure that what I take in is pure and not tainted in anyway by negative forces. This is a priority for me and I often think that the messages from the Hosts, through Lyara, might have some degree of distortion in them, although its very hard to definitely prove this, one way or the other.

It can make for frustrating times.... hee hee...

but oh well.... its all part of the god game.

Fox
Fox
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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My last message at 4:53 pm was meant for user 11342
AveRage
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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I have psychic abilities but only to a certain extent. My conclusions are drawn from my own experiencies and also conform to the law of attraction:
You draw only your own shadows upon yourself.
This simply means that everytime someone or something caused a bad feeling or problems in me, it was an old repressed event of my past which created the attraction.
The most difficult step for me is normally to recognise that there "could be a problem" with me.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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"The most difficult step for me is normally to recognise that there "could be a problem" with me."

Yes, that is true, but sometimes the problems IS with them. And that is ok, none of us have attained perfection. It´s ok to walk away, reevaluate things. If you are made to feel vulnerable or are "quarentined" because of questions, Oh my goodness, this is abuse of your very center & soul. Because no one has attained perfection in this realm, and I bet in alot of others as well, the message will always be tainted to some degree. That is what you are feeling or sensing Fox, the message is not perfect...it´s ok to explore other options. You will not lose the wisdom and understanding that you have gained, if anything you will grow even more...and that is wonderful!
AveRage
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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"Its just these feelings of being cut off from "the others like me" that are so hard to deal with. "

Good example: Try to remember where you already came upon a similar situation, most likely it was in your childhood.
Strange enough I just walked through a similar stiuation where I was rebuked by my mother on christmas eve to go to bed immediately after a short brawl with my younger brother about the gifts. Caused some kind of being cut off for my whole life.
It was too much for me and so I refused to feel it then.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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"Yes, that is true, but sometimes the problems IS with them."

The problem will be fixed as soon you have gone trough it.
You will never draw the same upon yourself again if you have looked into all aspects.
There maybe another one but it would be the next step.
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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User ID: 78

I must admitt, that after reading what you said in post 4:50 pm, it almost DOES sound like a cult that I am in. Its kind of funny in a way, but I whole heartedly do not feel that Operation Terra is a cult. Somehow, it just doesn´t feel that way to me, inspite of how it might look on the surface.

This aside, I do admire your genuwinely positive intent in choosing to share with me your eperiences with those that you have helped in the past. That feels very good to feel from you. I admire those that help others and helping those that have been abused in the past (nearly everyone) is one of the highest levels of service to others I am aware of.

Peace to you for being such a kindred spirit. :)

Fox

P.S.~ I will say more in just a few seconds, after I reply to AveRage. You´ve raised many valid points about Cults and control and I want to reply in greater detail.
Arizona
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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I have a question. What part of the above website goes "against" the teachings of Terra?

Thanks !
Arizona
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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78,

Nicely put.

"A loving person will allow you the freedom to explore, disagree, and maybe even allow themselve to learn a thing or to FROM YOU! "

Amen.
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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AveRage,

I knew it. Somehow I sensed that you were psychic. I don´t know how but I just knew immediately that you had these abilities to some degree. :)


I agree with you about the law of attraction. I´ve had many hard lessons learnt by simply not wanting to acknowledge that it was me who was repeatedly drawing forth the same situations and phenomina in different settings and people.

I´ve even met psychics who have mistakenly gotten caught in a kind of trial and justice belief/idea about the nature of the law of attraction. They seem to blame themselves for repeatedly attracting the same negative energy, instead of simply seeing it as a property of the universe that can be learnt from and is not a judgement on who we are and our own selfworth.

But this aside, I do believe that I have alot of personal clearing still left to do.


I think that when I first incarnated onto this plain, there was a kind of "cutting off from others like me" that happened. It was a dramatic shock and is still within me even now. I think this will change in time as I am reconnected with source reality and the finer connections of inner space are regrown.

I hope that doesn´t sound to new agy. :)

Parental figures can exert a great deal of influence over us. I´ve recently moved away from my fathers home and now live in my own appartment, and I can really see how much he effected me. I moved to a whole other city, far away from him.

Fox
mcubik
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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congratulations on your ostracism shows you must be doing something right and thanks for the link, already learned something

and remember what groucho said
" i wouldn´t want to belong to a club that would have me for a member"

peace
AveRage
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Fox

I also tried to solve my problems with past and pre life research but it was not really fruitful.
Bear in mind that you mirror all your problems in this life so it is not really necessary to search in other times and places to solve them.
And to learn our lessons means to feel them.

Love and Peace!
Thessa
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Hello Fox Moulder, dear friend!! flower

It´s always great to see you.

Welcome back! Did you solve your computer problems and stuff?

Nowadays I almost never think about OpTerra... I guess I´ve another destination... :)



:)

Thessa
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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3/27/2005
5:03 pm EST,

Yes, what you said is pretty nicely put, I agree. I almost want to believe you completely and run around in glee and happiness that I am FREE!!! hee hee...

But I can´t completely. This is hard for me to figure out, because there are no other examples of Operation Terra around. No one else who I can talk to in a purely objective manner about all of this who I can trust and who I know, knows the truth. There is a person on my website who use to fill me in alot on how things are. His name is John Star, but his level of incite was simply not broad enough to satisfy my desire to learn more.

I don´t know what to believe right now exactly but I do recognize what you have said here.

"it´s ok to explore other options. You will not lose the wisdom and understanding that you have gained, if anything you will grow even more...and that is wonderful!"

That was a common feeling that I have always had. Why should curiousity ever be restricted or not allowed? ...If I am really going to Terra/Heaven then it really shouldn´t matter if I explore other paths for a while in my unending desire to learn more.

I agree with you. I´ve decided that right now. I believe that freedom of curiosity should never be controled by anyone for any reason. Curiosity and pure passion to learn more, regardless of the consequences is the one thing that any freedom loving individuals should aspire to cultivate and let bloom.

:)

Peace,
Fox
AveRage
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Believe me, this is the only solution which will work:

It is a lesson for you, means that you should look how it feels and try to check which situation in your past or childhood it resembles.
Walk trough the repressed emotions but do not act them.

Sorry to repeat it again but now I will let you do what you think is good.

God vibes!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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applause
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Hey there Thessa!!!

Old buddy old pale!

I´ve missed you my dear friend.
flower

I can finally feel free to share with you in that feeling of not nessesarily being a part of OpTerra! Yay!!! Let the bells ring!!!! HORRAY!!! HORRAY!!!! hee hee....

Its great to see you too! I did not solve my computer problems and have moved to a whole other city entirely. :) I still don´t have my own computer but I will in time. I´m at an internet Cafe right now.

I send you my love Thessa and I´m excited for you. I think its a mystery for all of us, where exactly we will be headed in the times ahead, but one thing is known for sure, it will be a beautiful place of utter radiance and splendor.

:)

Fox
Arizona
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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78,

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12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Change can bring a bit of fear and lonliness...but your love and curiousity will get you thru...Best of luck wherever life takes you!
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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AveRage,

I feel you are correct and I know that I have alot of inner work to do. Recognizing old patterns within us emerging can be difficult at times, and I know that its a constant exercise that needs to be done. It feels pretty good though when we are finally able to clear something that has been hanging around within us for a long time. I often feel renewed and empowered. I know that nearly everyone has been damaged to varying degrees by the harshness of the world, and we each need to take time outs once in a while to come to center and heal our inner wounds. :)

Its a very delicate and personal thing I feel to do.

Love,
Fox
Fox Moulder
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Thank you mcubik!

I´m happy to hear your positive enthusiasm and support. :)

chorus


Peace,

Fox
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Thank you 78,

You are a most precious rose.

rose
Thessa
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Yay!!! Let the bells ring!!!! HORRAY!!! HORRAY!!!! hee hee.... 5a

Lol!!!


I checked again you marvelous site and I absolutely adore that butterfly painting...

It´s a very deep peaceful feeling

You are a most beautiful soul.



Much love

Thessa

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