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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Helloooo.. That is CULT behavior, ostracizing those who choose to follow their narrow belief systems...it mental and emotional abuse as well! Good for you...follow your heart, learn what there is to learn out there. Its a HUGE world! May love bless you on your journey. You made the right choice! Peace |
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Fox Moulder 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello 78, Thank you for your positive words but I donīt feel that Operation Terra is a cult. This has actually been a fear of mine for sometime, because I have been worried at times that it might get "derailed" somehow and begin falling into cult behavior type stuff. But Lyara is not of the kind of personality to become a cult leader. She doesnīt posses the raw power hungry desires that cult leaders posses. Those on the OT forums can FEEL what her intent is and its purely benevolent. She likes to grow life and admire its "special goodies." Peace :) Fox |
AveRage 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A certain resonance takes normally from hours to maximum days to walk through for me. It depends on how I dare to look into the face of my old emotions. You can ask that the divine forces to show you the exact quality and kind of the problem. This works for me. |
Fox Moulder 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | User ID: 11342, If you are still here, and willing, I was curious if you could elaborate on what you have said. How do you know this is a "lesson" for me? How do you know that there is a corrosponding situation in my past that resembles what has happened? Have you read Operation Terra? Are you psychic? Iīm curious.... Thank you for your incite and time, Fox |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Fox! A "cult" does not necessarily mean that the leader will demand all your money or have you drink poisened kool-aid at there command. Any "leader" of any type of organization be it social, political, spiritual-or even family unit- that does not allow you the freedom to question them, their belief, judgement etc. without some type of criticism is BIG trouble. Typically then when they hear people disagreeing... you, and the rest of the group that questions are told you will not make it to the "promised land" or will suffer in some type of way for being outside of the circle. This is controller and it IS ABUSIVE period. No matter how nice and sweet they say it, or how loving you percieve the tone to be. Ultimately, they are telling you that you are "bad" in someway, unenlightened...whatever. You see my point? She doesnīt want dissention in the ranks...much like a dicatator, or religious zealot. A loving person will allow you the freedom to explore, disagree, and maybe even allow themselve to learn a thing or to FROM YOU! Like I said before, you made the right choice and as you meet new folks I think you will come to see this. P.S. I have nothing against this Lyara personally as I know nothing about Operation Terra, but I have worked for 8 years as a counselor who has helped abuse survivor, believe me I know it when I see it. |
Fox Moulder 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, Youīve already replied... I guess for me, its all about "forbidden activities." What I mean is that somethings are forbidden and when I participate in certain forbidden activities, (as chosen by the Hosts from Heaven or Lyara) then I am "quarenteened" in a matter of speaking and this causes fears of ostracism to come up. In truth, nothing really bad has happened. Going to Terra on one side of the Omega point or the other side is really not a big deal. Its just these feelings of being cut off from "the others like me" that are so hard to deal with. Humans are so controled by our animal sides and animal concerns, that we really offer little resistance to those that might manipulate us (who happen to know just how to trigger our animal emotions.) Iīm not sure if Iīm being manipulated but I like to question everything, all the time, to ensure that what I take in is pure and not tainted in anyway by negative forces. This is a priority for me and I often think that the messages from the Hosts, through Lyara, might have some degree of distortion in them, although its very hard to definitely prove this, one way or the other. It can make for frustrating times.... hee hee... but oh well.... its all part of the god game. Fox |
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AveRage 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You draw only your own shadows upon yourself. This simply means that everytime someone or something caused a bad feeling or problems in me, it was an old repressed event of my past which created the attraction. The most difficult step for me is normally to recognise that there "could be a problem" with me. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The most difficult step for me is normally to recognise that there "could be a problem" with me." Yes, that is true, but sometimes the problems IS with them. And that is ok, none of us have attained perfection. Itīs ok to walk away, reevaluate things. If you are made to feel vulnerable or are "quarentined" because of questions, Oh my goodness, this is abuse of your very center & soul. Because no one has attained perfection in this realm, and I bet in alot of others as well, the message will always be tainted to some degree. That is what you are feeling or sensing Fox, the message is not perfect...itīs ok to explore other options. You will not lose the wisdom and understanding that you have gained, if anything you will grow even more...and that is wonderful! |
AveRage 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Its just these feelings of being cut off from "the others like me" that are so hard to deal with. " Good example: Try to remember where you already came upon a similar situation, most likely it was in your childhood. Strange enough I just walked through a similar stiuation where I was rebuked by my mother on christmas eve to go to bed immediately after a short brawl with my younger brother about the gifts. Caused some kind of being cut off for my whole life. It was too much for me and so I refused to feel it then. |
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Fox Moulder 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | User ID: 78 I must admitt, that after reading what you said in post 4:50 pm, it almost DOES sound like a cult that I am in. Its kind of funny in a way, but I whole heartedly do not feel that Operation Terra is a cult. Somehow, it just doesnīt feel that way to me, inspite of how it might look on the surface. This aside, I do admire your genuwinely positive intent in choosing to share with me your eperiences with those that you have helped in the past. That feels very good to feel from you. I admire those that help others and helping those that have been abused in the past (nearly everyone) is one of the highest levels of service to others I am aware of. Peace to you for being such a kindred spirit. :) Fox P.S.~ I will say more in just a few seconds, after I reply to AveRage. Youīve raised many valid points about Cults and control and I want to reply in greater detail. |
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Fox Moulder 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AveRage, I knew it. Somehow I sensed that you were psychic. I donīt know how but I just knew immediately that you had these abilities to some degree. :) I agree with you about the law of attraction. Iīve had many hard lessons learnt by simply not wanting to acknowledge that it was me who was repeatedly drawing forth the same situations and phenomina in different settings and people. Iīve even met psychics who have mistakenly gotten caught in a kind of trial and justice belief/idea about the nature of the law of attraction. They seem to blame themselves for repeatedly attracting the same negative energy, instead of simply seeing it as a property of the universe that can be learnt from and is not a judgement on who we are and our own selfworth. But this aside, I do believe that I have alot of personal clearing still left to do. I think that when I first incarnated onto this plain, there was a kind of "cutting off from others like me" that happened. It was a dramatic shock and is still within me even now. I think this will change in time as I am reconnected with source reality and the finer connections of inner space are regrown. I hope that doesnīt sound to new agy. :) Parental figures can exert a great deal of influence over us. Iīve recently moved away from my fathers home and now live in my own appartment, and I can really see how much he effected me. I moved to a whole other city, far away from him. Fox |
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AveRage 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fox I also tried to solve my problems with past and pre life research but it was not really fruitful. Bear in mind that you mirror all your problems in this life so it is not really necessary to search in other times and places to solve them. And to learn our lessons means to feel them. Love and Peace! |
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Fox Moulder 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anonymous Coward User ID: 78 3/27/2005 5:03 pm EST, Yes, what you said is pretty nicely put, I agree. I almost want to believe you completely and run around in glee and happiness that I am FREE!!! hee hee... But I canīt completely. This is hard for me to figure out, because there are no other examples of Operation Terra around. No one else who I can talk to in a purely objective manner about all of this who I can trust and who I know, knows the truth. There is a person on my website who use to fill me in alot on how things are. His name is John Star, but his level of incite was simply not broad enough to satisfy my desire to learn more. I donīt know what to believe right now exactly but I do recognize what you have said here. "itīs ok to explore other options. You will not lose the wisdom and understanding that you have gained, if anything you will grow even more...and that is wonderful!" That was a common feeling that I have always had. Why should curiousity ever be restricted or not allowed? ...If I am really going to Terra/Heaven then it really shouldnīt matter if I explore other paths for a while in my unending desire to learn more. I agree with you. Iīve decided that right now. I believe that freedom of curiosity should never be controled by anyone for any reason. Curiosity and pure passion to learn more, regardless of the consequences is the one thing that any freedom loving individuals should aspire to cultivate and let bloom. :) Peace, Fox |
AveRage 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe me, this is the only solution which will work: It is a lesson for you, means that you should look how it feels and try to check which situation in your past or childhood it resembles. Walk trough the repressed emotions but do not act them. Sorry to repeat it again but now I will let you do what you think is good. God vibes! |
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Fox Moulder 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey there Thessa!!! Old buddy old pale! Iīve missed you my dear friend. I can finally feel free to share with you in that feeling of not nessesarily being a part of OpTerra! Yay!!! Let the bells ring!!!! HORRAY!!! HORRAY!!!! hee hee.... Its great to see you too! I did not solve my computer problems and have moved to a whole other city entirely. :) I still donīt have my own computer but I will in time. Iīm at an internet Cafe right now. I send you my love Thessa and Iīm excited for you. I think its a mystery for all of us, where exactly we will be headed in the times ahead, but one thing is known for sure, it will be a beautiful place of utter radiance and splendor. :) Fox |
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Fox Moulder 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AveRage, I feel you are correct and I know that I have alot of inner work to do. Recognizing old patterns within us emerging can be difficult at times, and I know that its a constant exercise that needs to be done. It feels pretty good though when we are finally able to clear something that has been hanging around within us for a long time. I often feel renewed and empowered. I know that nearly everyone has been damaged to varying degrees by the harshness of the world, and we each need to take time outs once in a while to come to center and heal our inner wounds. :) Its a very delicate and personal thing I feel to do. Love, Fox |
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