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Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.

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1.He knew the Scriptures thoroughly, even to words and verb tenses. He obviously had either memorized vast portions or knew it instinctively: John 7:15.2

2.He believed every word of Scripture. All the prophecies concerning Himself were fulfilled,3 and He believed beforehand they would be.4

3.He believed the Old Testament was historical fact. This is very clear, even though from the Creation (cf. Genesis 2:24 and Matthew 19:4, 5) onward, much of what He believed has long been under fire by critics, as being mere fiction. Some examples of historical facts:

Luke 11:51—Abel was a real individual
Matthew 24:37–39—Noah and the flood (Luke 17:26, 27)
John 8:56–58—Abraham
Matthew 10:15; 11:23, 24 (Luke 10:12)—Sodom and Gomorrah
Luke 17:28–32—Lot (and wife!)
Matthew 8:11—Isaac and Jacob (Luke 13:28)
John 6:31, 49, 58—Manna
John 3:14—Serpent
Matthew 12:39–41—Jonah (vs. 42—Sheba)
Matthew 24:15—Daniel and Isaiah
4.He believed the books were written by the men whose names they bear:

Moses wrote the Pentateuch (Torah): Matthew 19:7, 8; Mark 7:10, 12:26 (‘Book of Moses’—the Torah); Luke 5:14; 16:29,31; 24:27, 44 (‘Christ’s Canon’); John 1:17; 5:45, 46; 7:19; (‘The Law [Torah] was given by Moses; Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ.’)5
Isaiah wrote ‘both’ Isaiah’s: Mark 7:6–13; John 12:37–41 [Ed. note: Liberals claim that Isaiah 40-66 was composed after the fall of Jerusalem by another writer they call ‘Deutero-Isaiah’. The only real ‘reason’ for their claim is that a straightforward dating would mean that predictive prophecy was possible, and liberals have decreed a priori that knowledge of the future is impossible (like miracles in general). Thus these portions must have been written after the events. However, there is nothing in the text itself to hint of a different author. See The Unity of Isaiah. In fact, even the Dead Sea Isaiah Scroll was a seamless unity. But as Dr Livingston said, since Jesus affirmed the unity of Isaiah, the deutero-Isaiah theory is just not an option for anyone calling himself a follower of Christ.]
Jonah wrote Jonah: Matthew 12:39–41
Daniel wrote Daniel: Matthew 24:15
5.He believed the Old Testament was spoken by God Himself, or written by the Holy Spirit’s inspiration, even though the pen was held by men: Matthew 19:4, 5; 22:31, 32, 43; Mark 12:26; Luke 20:37.

6.He believed Scripture was more powerful than His miracles: Luke 16:29, 31.

7.He actually quoted it in overthrowing Satan! The O.T. Scriptures were the arbiter in every dispute: Matthew 4; Luke 16:29, 31.

8.He quoted Scripture as the basis for his own teaching. His ethics were the same as what we find already written in Scripture: Matthew 7:12; 19:18, 19; 22:40; Mark 7:9, 13; 10:19; 12:24, 29–31; Luke 18:20.

9.He warned against replacing it with something else, or adding or subtracting from it. The Jewish leaders in His day had added to it with their Oral Traditions: Matthew 5:17; 15:1–9; 22:29; (cf. 5:43, 44); Mark. 7:1–12. (Destroying faith in the Bible as God’s Word will open the door today to a ‘new’ Tradition.)

10.He will judge all men in the last day, as Messiah and King, on the basis of His infallible Word committed to writing by fallible men, guided by the infallible Holy Spirit: Matthew 25:31; John 5:22, 27; 12:48; Romans 2:16.

11.He made provision for the New Testament (B’rit Hadashah) by sending the Holy Spirit (the Ruach HaKodesh). We must note that He Himself never wrote one word of Scripture although He is the Word of God Himself (the living Torah in flesh and blood, see John, chapter 1). He committed the task of all writing of the Word of God to fallible men—guided by the infallible Holy Spirit. The apostles’ words had the same authority as Christ’s: Matthew 10:14, 15; Luke 10:16; John 13:20; 14:22; 15:26, 27; 16:12–14.

12.He not only was not jealous of the attention men paid to the Bible (denounced as ‘bibliolatry’ by some), He reviled them for their ignorance of it: Matthew 22:29; Mark 12:24.

13.Nor did Jesus worship Scripture. He honored it—even though written by men.

The above leaves no room but to conclude that our Lord Jesus Christ considered the canon of Scripture as God’s Word, written by the hand of men.

Although some religious leaders profess to accept Scripture as ‘God’s Word,’ their low view of ‘inspiration’ belies the fact. They believe and teach that Scripture is, to a very significant degree, man’s word. Many of their statements are in essential disagreement with those of Jesus Christ. From the evidence of their books, we conclude that some Christian leaders are opposite to Christ in His regard for the authority, the inspiration, and the inerrancy of Scripture.

And now, the most important point.

III. Jesus Christ was subject to Scripture
Jesus obeyed the Word of God, not man. He was subject to it. If some leaders’ view of inspiration were true, Jesus was subject to an errant, rather casually thrown-together ‘Word of Man.’ Jesus would have been subject, then, to the will of man, not the will of God.

However, in all the details of His acts of redemption, Jesus was subject to Scripture as God’s Word. He obeyed it. It was His authority, the rule by which He lived. He came to do God’s will, not His own, and not man’s. Note how all of His life He did things because they were written—as if God had directly commanded. He fulfilled Old Testament prophecies about Himself. The passages are found all over the Old Testament. We cite here only a very few quoted in the New Testament: Matthew 11:10; 26:24, 53–56; Mark 9:12, 13; Luke 4:17–21; 18:31–33; 22:37; 24:44–47.

He Himself is the Word of God. All the words from His lips were the Word of God. (John 3:34). If He had desired, He could have written a new set of rules and they would have been the Word of God. But, He did not. He followed without question the Bible already penned by men.

This is the sensible thing for every believer to do. May all who read this adopt Jesus’ attitude and become subject both to Him as Living Word (living Torah) and to the Bible as the infallible, written Word of God.


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bump Don't forget, He also told us to recognize evil and rebuke it/them.
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bump Don't forget, He also told us to recognize evil and rebuke it/them.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Exactly, and that is why you get rebuked so often in this forum as a creature of deception.
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11/17/2009 11:22 PM
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Jesus told me you are not correct.
As I read your post I felt his presence and heard his voice, gentle as always.

He told me to give you a message... STFU DOUCHEBAG! YOU DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT ME, I'VE BEEN DEAD FOR 2000 YEARS!
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11/17/2009 11:26 PM
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Are you saying that at the time Jesus of the bible walked the earth that the individual books that constitute the entirety of the tome called the bible had already been written and compiled and declared holy for all humanity forever? How many others may have been subject to obey it to their human detriment?
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11/17/2009 11:27 PM
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Jesus told me you are not correct.
As I read your post I felt his presence and heard his voice, gentle as always.

He told me to give you a message... STFU DOUCHEBAG! YOU DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT ME, I'VE BEEN DEAD FOR 2000 YEARS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821002


They didnt have douchbags 2000 years ago. so you have already discredited yourself. Satan
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
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11/17/2009 11:30 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

Are you saying that at the time Jesus of the bible walked the earth that the individual books that constitute the entirety of the tome called the bible had already been written and compiled and declared holy for all humanity forever? How many others may have been subject to obey it to their human detriment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821212


The new testament was not yet written but the Old testament was. He grew up reading the Torah in the synagogue

Last Edited by Neesie on 11/17/2009 at 11:31 PM
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11/17/2009 11:32 PM
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whatda?? the bible was compiled from several first hand accounts of his life on earth..many were rejected and this was many years after his death-something wrong with you
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11/17/2009 11:33 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

Jesus told me you are not correct.
As I read your post I felt his presence and heard his voice, gentle as always.

He told me to give you a message... STFU DOUCHEBAG! YOU DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT ME, I'VE BEEN DEAD FOR 2000 YEARS!


They didnt have douchbags 2000 years ago. so you have already discredited yourself. Satan
 Quoting: Neesie


Jesus is God... God knows all, and therefore would be familiar with the term douchebag.

Unless you are admitting that Jesus was nothing but a mortal who died a brutal death two millenia ago?

I'm not Satan, I'm just an employee.
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11/17/2009 11:33 PM
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The bible didn't exist in the time of Jesus, however, certain scriptures did and it was these that He knew inside out!

Don't forget, He had a unique insight into the scriptures, often turning on the head and confounding the understanding of His learned contemporaries.
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11/17/2009 11:34 PM
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whatda?? the bible was compiled from several first hand accounts of his life on earth..many were rejected and this was many years after his death-something wrong with you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821218


you are talking about the new testament that was written after his death by the apostles.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
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11/17/2009 11:35 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

Jesus told me you are not correct.
As I read your post I felt his presence and heard his voice, gentle as always.

He told me to give you a message... STFU DOUCHEBAG! YOU DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT ME, I'VE BEEN DEAD FOR 2000 YEARS!


They didnt have douchbags 2000 years ago. so you have already discredited yourself. Satan


Jesus is God... God knows all, and therefore would be familiar with the term douchebag.

Unless you are admitting that Jesus was nothing but a mortal who died a brutal death two millenia ago?

I'm not Satan, I'm just an employee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821002


of satan?
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
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11/17/2009 11:36 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

Are you saying that at the time Jesus of the bible walked the earth that the individual books that constitute the entirety of the tome called the bible had already been written and compiled and declared holy for all humanity forever? How many others may have been subject to obey it to their human detriment?


The new testament was not yet written but the Old testament was. He grew up reading the Torah in the synagogue
 Quoting: Neesie



He was also taught by a widow that lived at the synagogue. Most likely that is where he learned the OT books.
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11/17/2009 11:36 PM
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OP your title is wrong.

It should read, Jesus not only believed the Torah, he was subject to obey it.

Am I wrong?
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11/17/2009 11:37 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

The bible didn't exist in the time of Jesus, however, certain scriptures did and it was these that He knew inside out!

Don't forget, He had a unique insight into the scriptures, often turning on the head and confounding the understanding of His learned contemporaries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819269


did you read the link to the article that i posted? I promise you wont be disappointed.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"
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11/17/2009 11:38 PM
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bump Don't forget, He also told us to recognize evil and rebuke it/them.


Exactly, and that is why you get rebuked so often in this forum as a creature of deception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 811494


According to whom? Only God knows my heart...do you? Or are you making assumptions? Oh wait you are the one who threw the BS flag. That explains a lot.

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11/17/2009 11:38 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

Jesus told me you are not correct.
As I read your post I felt his presence and heard his voice, gentle as always.

He told me to give you a message... STFU DOUCHEBAG! YOU DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT ME, I'VE BEEN DEAD FOR 2000 YEARS!


They didnt have douchbags 2000 years ago. so you have already discredited yourself. Satan


Jesus is God... God knows all, and therefore would be familiar with the term douchebag.

Unless you are admitting that Jesus was nothing but a mortal who died a brutal death two millenia ago?

I'm not Satan, I'm just an employee.


of satan?
 Quoting: Neesie


No, Walmart... we get overtime for hassling Christians over the internet... -.-


YES, OF FUCKING SATAN!
IT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO THAT'S REWARDING ME FOR TAINTING MENS SOULS NOW IS IT?
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11/17/2009 11:39 PM
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6.He believed Scripture was more powerful than His miracles: Luke 16:29, 31.



Every single thing taken out of context or outright landover baptist lies?

Luke 16:29, 31
29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
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11/17/2009 11:39 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

OP your title is wrong.

It should read, Jesus not only believed the Torah, he was subject to obey it.

Am I wrong?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821002


you are wrong. please go to the link and read the article. the books of Isaiah and Jonah and Daniel among others were already out in Jesus time. He even commented on them.

Last Edited by Neesie on 11/17/2009 at 11:43 PM
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11/17/2009 11:44 PM
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whatda?? the bible was compiled from several first hand accounts of his life on earth..many were rejected and this was many years after his death-something wrong with you


you are talking about the new testament that was written after his death by the apostles.
 Quoting: Neesie



I'll bump you-but I still say something not right in you head bump
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11/17/2009 11:45 PM
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bump Don't forget, He also told us to recognize evil and rebuke it/them.


Exactly, and that is why you get rebuked so often in this forum as a creature of deception.


According to whom? Only God knows my heart...do you? Or are you making assumptions? Oh wait you are the one who threw the BS flag. That explains a lot.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Yes God sees that you a fucking liar and so do many of the posters here. You have an agenda, you only represent that agenda and nothing else. In other words an evil that needs to be rebuked.

Burn in hell! skull_fing
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11/17/2009 11:46 PM
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The new testament was not yet written but the Old testament was. He grew up reading the Torah in the synagogue
 Quoting: Neesie


Which synagogue exactly?

Did he not spend his childhood in Egypt? How do you know it wasn't the Library of Alexandria? Why did the Church destroy the Library of Alexandria that held all the ancient texts relating to the truth? Do you know?

Do you know who wrote the gospels? Theologians don't.

Many prophecies were attributed to Jesus some were not about Jesus and Jesus did not fulfill some of them so why did the gospel writers claim that he did? Did you know there are two Bethlehem's one in the North and one in the South of Israel?

For instance Jesus was not the righteous and suffering servant mentioned by Prophet Isaiah. Why was that? Did he give birth to a child? Did he have the skin disease? Was his appearance marred? If we embrace what the Gospel writers wrote about him/his life then the response is. No.

This is my testimony and Jesus Christ is my witness to this testimony.

Jesus Christ said "If you have not experienced what you write then it is nothing more than hypothesis"

Lotus

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11/17/2009 11:47 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

OP your title is wrong.

It should read, Jesus not only believed the Torah, he was subject to obey it.

Am I wrong?


you are wrong. please go to the link and read the article. the books of Isaiah and Jonah and Daniel among others were already out in Jesus time. He even commented on them.
 Quoting: Neesie


But surely they were part of what is now called the old testement and therefore jewish texts?
I mean, they couldn't have been called christian.

btw, I love the way you say they were "already out", makes them sound like dvds.
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11/17/2009 11:47 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

whatda?? the bible was compiled from several first hand accounts of his life on earth..many were rejected and this was many years after his death-something wrong with you


you are talking about the new testament that was written after his death by the apostles.



I'll bump you-but I still say something not right in you head bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821218


you are too kind. God must be really pleased with you. I know that i am. hf
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Lotus Feet
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11/17/2009 11:48 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

Jesus told me you are not correct.
As I read your post I felt his presence and heard his voice, gentle as always.

He told me to give you a message... STFU DOUCHEBAG! YOU DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT ME, I'VE BEEN DEAD FOR 2000 YEARS!


They didnt have douchbags 2000 years ago. so you have already discredited yourself. Satan
 Quoting: Neesie


They didn't have bibles either.

Lotus
Write your Sonnet to God and let him hear your voice sing to him. Engage now with the return.

"Justice and the law can be a very thin line to walk and it takes great wisdom to ensure that the children are defended from injurious realities at the same time as allowing them the freedom to be." A whole heart can feel the sorrow of humanity. She hears the sound of the cries of the world and our heavenly Father responds to it in his greatness and glory."

"The unity of light foot are those that tread CARE FULLY along the path. The footprint on the earth is lightness itself." It is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:-21 Wisdom is proved right by her actions."Matthew 11:19

MESSAGES FROM GOD.
[link to www.academysounds.blogspot.com]
COVENANT FOR THE CHILDREN
[link to spiritualindependence.blogspot.com]
CHRIST VISION OF PEACE
[link to christvisionloveunion.blogspot.com]
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11/17/2009 11:48 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

Jesus told me you are not correct.
As I read your post I felt his presence and heard his voice, gentle as always.

He told me to give you a message... STFU DOUCHEBAG! YOU DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT ME, I'VE BEEN DEAD FOR 2000 YEARS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821002


This is why GLP should not be a place to witness to the spiritually dead and cast pearls before swine, nor should we as professing Christians try to persuade men by intellectual reasoning, that would be in vain. The gospel is commission for us to spread the good news of a savior to a fallen people.

This reply's reference to the above quote shows the wickedness of man's heart and how we are all in bondage to sin and slaved to the father of sin unless God himself intervenes in our lives to free us from this bondage.

Pray for this person.
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bump Don't forget, He also told us to recognize evil and rebuke it/them.


Exactly, and that is why you get rebuked so often in this forum as a creature of deception.


According to whom? Only God knows my heart...do you? Or are you making assumptions? Oh wait you are the one who threw the BS flag. That explains a lot.


Yes God sees that you a fucking liar and so do many of the posters here. You have an agenda, you only represent that agenda and nothing else. In other words an evil that needs to be rebuked.

Burn in hell! skull_fing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 811494


So sorry you feel that way. Thanks for proving you are not a Christian with your skull and finger and telling me to burn in hell. God Bless You!

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. Matthew 5:44

Last Edited by TXGal4Truth on 11/17/2009 at 11:54 PM
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11/17/2009 11:49 PM
Re: Jesus not only believed the bible, He was subject to obey it.Quote

OP your title is wrong.

It should read, Jesus not only believed the Torah, he was subject to obey it.

Am I wrong?


you are wrong. please go to the link and read the article. the books of Isaiah and Jonah and Daniel among others were already out in Jesus time. He even commented on them.


But surely they were part of what is now called the old testement and therefore jewish texts?
I mean, they couldn't have been called christian.

btw, I love the way you say they were "already out", makes them sound like dvds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821002


no, the bible would never be called Christian. It was written long before Christ came along.
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11/17/2009 11:53 PM
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The Gospel of John is a word for word movie that shows it hf
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11/17/2009 11:58 PM
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The new testament was not yet written but the Old testament was. He grew up reading the Torah in the synagogue


Which synagogue exactly?

Did he not spend his childhood in Egypt? How do you know it wasn't the Library of Alexandria? Why did the Church destroy the Library of Alexandria that held all the ancient texts relating to the truth? Do you know?

Do you know who wrote the gospels? Theologians don't.

Many prophecies were attributed to Jesus and they were not about Jesus and Jesus did not fulfill some of them so why did the gospel writers claim that he did? Did you know there are two Bethlehem's one in the North and one in the South of Israel?

For instance Jesus was not the righteous and suffering servant mentioned by Prophet Isaiah. Why was that? Did he give birth to a child? Did he have the skin disease? Was his appearance marred? If we embrace what the Gospel writers wrote about him then the response is. No.

This is my testimony and Jesus Christ is my witness to this testimony.

Jesus Christ said "If you have not experienced what you write then it is nothing more than hypothesis"

Lotus
 Quoting: Lotus Feet


The library in Alexandria was burned by julius Caesar. But not on purpose He was burning egyptian ships and the fire spread from the harbor and burned the books before they could be saved. and i dont like you making light of Jesus. I think he wont like it either. shame on you!!!!!
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