Dude, don't throw stones... well actually that doesn"t quite fit here.
What I was going to say was WE ALL live in a country whose Supreme Court once condoned and legitimized slavery. And where we STILL kill, excuse me "abort" unborn children.
We live in a VERY GLASS HOUSE.
The Supreme court doesn't condone slavery anymore, Muslim countries DO still condone stoning.
Also, abortion does not equate stoning. We as a nation can change how abortion is viewed, and support or deny it. They cannot change the Koran or Sharia law, and will stone women forever if given the chance.
No glass house, your just another Muslim sympathizer who is making excuses for the people who support child rape and woman stoning.
The bizarre thing is - the apologists actually think that theirs is the more enlightened viewpoint!
Wild stuff..
Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
"Wild stuff..", indeed !
I'm amazed by that, as well.
Hillcrest America's Sweetheart User ID: 392015 United States 11/18/2009 1:05 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Our fathers watched as we incinerated over 100,000 people in Japan, "to end the war".
Glass houses.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
THEY FUCKING WELL DESERVED IT TOO, ASSHOLE.
YOU FORGOT PEARL HARBOR, BATAAN, WAKE, BURMA, CHINA, MANCHURIA?
FUCKING MAGGOTS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AND THANK OUR "FATHERS" AND BROTHERS WHO PAID WITH THEIR LIVES SO YOU CAN SIT ON YOUR USELESS ASS AND MOCK THEM.
GO FUCK YOURSELF, SAMBO.
Aquarius 7 User ID: 821574 United States 11/18/2009 1:21 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Nothing says religion of peace like stoning someone to death for having sex.
So says the BBC????? Pfft! lets see the video footage?.
There are plenty of examples on Youtube, and sites like faithfreedom.org. I don't know why you wouldn't believe this, it happens all the time..
Because I wasn't there to see it with my OWN eyes and neither were any of you people, yet you all will quickly jump on the band wagon cause the BBC said so??, please this is the royal hand being played here and everyone is buying it.Why do You think this is all happening now huh?, all these crazy ass Muslim stories coming out in the past few months, they(TPTB) are setting us all up for a big fall my friend.
Quoting: Thundercheeks
So you are saying there are no stonings, eye gouging, etc. happening today? Why do muslim news services claim that there are if this is in fact not happening? They report it themselves. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 11/18/2009 1:25 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Our fathers watched as we incinerated over 100,000 people in Japan, "to end the war".
Glass houses.
THEY FUCKING WELL DESERVED IT TOO, ASSHOLE.
YOU FORGOT PEARL HARBOR, BATAAN, WAKE, BURMA, CHINA, MANCHURIA?
FUCKING MAGGOTS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AND THANK OUR "FATHERS" AND BROTHERS WHO PAID WITH THEIR LIVES SO YOU CAN SIT ON YOUR USELESS ASS AND MOCK THEM.
GO FUCK YOURSELF, SAMBO.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821497
+1
Yes, that was in self defense following an all out military assault on this country.
I guess now we are not even entitled to defend ourselves.
That is exactly the mindset the PC shills are trying to instill.
FAIL! One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 601353 Canada 11/18/2009 1:26 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Our fathers watched as we incinerated over 100,000 people in Japan, "to end the war".
Glass houses.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
Irrelevant, the Islamic women who got murdered by stoning did not declare war and attack the men.
Many of them got raped, and then sentenced to death for fornicating.
Muslim courts don't accept things like DNA, fingerprints, a females testimony (cause females are "irrational").
Long story short, you obviously cannot judge when people are "throwing stones in glass houses". You've already misapplied that expression twice and really should just stop using it, your making yourself look like an idiot.
9teen.47™ Time is short. User ID: 821575 United Kingdom 11/18/2009 1:39 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
This is all very sad. Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 821612 Germany 11/18/2009 1:40 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
A 20-year-old woman divorcee accused of committing adultery in Somalia has been stoned to death by Islamists in front of a crowd of about 200 people.
A judge working for the militant group al-Shabab said she had had an affair with an unmarried 29-year-old man.
He said she gave birth to a still-born baby and was found guilty of adultery. Her boyfriend was given 100 lashes.
It is thought to be the second time a woman has been stoned to death for adultery by al-Shabab.
The group controls large swathes of southern Somalia where they have imposed a strict interpretation of Islamic law which has been unpopular with many Somalis.
'Lenient'
According to reports from a small village near the town of Wajid, 250 miles (400km) north-west of the capital, Mogadishu, the woman was taken to the public grounds where she was buried up to her waist.
The judge, Sheikh Ibrahim Abdirahman, said her unmarried boyfriend was given 100 lashes at the same venue.
Under al-Shabab's interpretation of Sharia law, anyone who has ever been married - even a divorcee - who has an affair is liable to be found guilty of adultery, punishable by stoning to death.
An unmarried person who has sex before marriage is liable to be given 100 lashes.
BBC East Africa correspondent Will Ross says the stoning is at least the fourth for adultery in Somalia over the last year.
Earlier this month, a man was stoned to death for adultery in the port town of Merka, south of Mogadishu.
His pregnant girlfriend was spared, until she gives birth.
Last month, two men were stoned to death in Merka after being accused of spying.
President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, a moderate Islamist, was sworn in as president after UN-brokered peace talks in January.
Although he says he also wants to implement Sharia, al-Shabab says his version of Islamic law would be too lenient.
The country has not had a functioning national government for 18 years.
Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat
the return of the dark babarian medivian age
and bring the pleasure for the babarian, bloodthirsty crowd
They love it to enjoy a public massacre
That is food for the Beast inside the human
Anonymous Coward User ID: 809244 Canada 11/18/2009 1:51 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Just what sort of mind state do you have to be in, to stand there throwing stones at a young women buried up to her waist until her face is slowly shredded and pulped, by the accumulation of impacts.
like I've said many times
they are fucking savages
you have to deal with them via the law of the jungle
they are not civilized men
Quoting: ^TrInItY^
i 2nd that
Anonymous Coward User ID: 821612 Germany 11/18/2009 1:54 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child. Consummating the marriage by 9.
The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.
Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.
To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.
The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.
The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.
In the West World ( America ) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her.. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.
By passing this on, enlightened American women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.
Cruel and Usual Punishment is her latest book just released in most bookstores.
[link to www.amazon.com]
Ripping the West in Two.
Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.
She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.
Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old, her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel . He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza .
When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.
But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.
For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed.
Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual, Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world. Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.
While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Sharia teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.
While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism. It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.
While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petrodollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President by themselves! I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but there is no way this will be widely publicized.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 421189
when they (the muselmaniacs)try to introduce their infamous and evil sharia then the real and true Armageddon will come among them
This will be for 100% come true
Anonymous Coward User ID: 809244 Canada 11/18/2009 1:59 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
i dont think there brains r the same as ours.they have no compassion,no remorse,no understanding right and wrong,no respect for life.i didnt think there are caveman still here on earth in the year 2009 but i was wrong.
you have to deal with them via the law of the jungle
they are not civilized men
Don't conflate fringe, extremist Islamists with the rest of Muslims.
That would be like characterizing ALL Americans as evangelicals.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 464288
Than why isn't the moderate Muslim world marching in the streets in protest of these acts - or in solidarity for the victims?
Why aren't Muslim intellectuals going on 'Islamic TV' to denounce such barbarity?
Answer:
1)Because these acts are pure demonstrations of Islamic values.
2)Muslim intellectuals are too racist too care - After all, It's only blacks being stoned to death. Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.
Nothing says religion of peace like stoning someone to death for having sex.
So says the BBC????? Pfft! lets see the video footage?.
There are plenty of examples on Youtube, and sites like faithfreedom.org. I don't know why you wouldn't believe this, it happens all the time..
Because I wasn't there to see it with my OWN eyes and neither were any of you people, yet you all will quickly jump on the band wagon cause the BBC said so??, please this is the royal hand being played here and everyone is buying it.Why do You think this is all happening now huh?, all these crazy ass Muslim stories coming out in the past few months, they(TPTB) are setting us all up for a big fall my friend.
Quoting: Thundercheeks
What are you talking about?
I have been posting 'crazy ass' Muslim stories for the past 2 years..there is more than enough material for the next 10 years..
Last Edited by JADR on 11/18/2009 at 2:53 PM Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.
jadr-glp@hotmail.com
34 User ID: 818264 United States 11/18/2009 2:15 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Christian today despised Muslim's rules and law that was the same as the old testament God, THE SAME GOD, what make you think it not the same God with the same rules apply?
It funny how christian love God but hate the muslim's way, they love and hate God's law the same way
Ever thought about that? It the same.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 821612 Germany 11/18/2009 2:24 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Christian today despised Muslim's rules and law that was the same as the old testament God, THE SAME GOD, what make you think it not the same God with the same rules apply?
It funny how christian love God but hate the muslim's way, they love and hate God's law the same way
Christian today despised Muslim's rules and law that was the same as the old testament God, THE SAME GOD, what make you think it not the same God with the same rules apply?
It funny how christian love God but hate the muslim's way, they love and hate God's law the same way
That was over 2000 years ago ... societies evolve, & so does 'God's law'
In Theory
The Mishna gives the following list of persons who should be stoned (Sanhedrin Chapter 7, p. 53a [1])
* A man who has sexual intercourse with one of the following (see Lev. 20, which however does not specify the form of execution):
his mother
his father's wife
his daughter-in-law
another man
an animal ("bestiality")
* A woman who allows an animal to have sexual intercourse with her
* A blasphemer
* An idolater
* One who gives his seed to Molech
* A necromancer or wizard
* One who desecrates the sabbath
* One who curses his father and mother
* One who has sexual intercourse with a betrothed maiden
* One who incites or instigates (toward idolatry)
* A sorcerer
* A wayward and rebellious son
In practice
There are only scarce mentions of such a punishment being actually legally inflicted. There are three cases in the Bible (see list below) in which a person was stoned to death as a punishment. But there are also five or six cases where someone was stoned by a mob, or not in a legal fashion. A detailed recorded case of stoning occurs in the Book of Joshua (7, 24) when a man named Achan (עכן) was found to have kept loot from Jericho, a conquered Canaanite city, in his tent.
As manifest also in Jewish sources contemporary with and prior to early Christianity, particularly the Mishnah, doubts were growing in Jewish society about the morality of capital punishment in general and stoning in particular. For example, according to Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel in the time when the religious courts had authority over capital punishment, a court that executed more than 1 person in 70 years was a "bloody court".[19]
(JADR: compare that to today's Muslims stoning women left right and center)
In the following centuries the leading Jewish sages imposed so many restrictions on the actual implementation of capital punishment - especially, many difficult to fulfill conditions for a testimony to be admissible (Sanhedrin) - as to make the imposition of capital punishment virtually impossible in practice.
The Talmud limits the use of the death penalty to Jewish criminals who:
(a) while about to do the crime were warned not to commit the crime while in the presence of two witnesses (and only individuals who meet a strict list of standards are considered acceptable witnesses); and
(b) having been warned, committed the crime in front of the same two witnesses.[citation needed]
Last Edited by JADR on 11/18/2009 at 2:31 PM Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.
jadr-glp@hotmail.com
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 11/18/2009 2:33 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Christian today despised Muslim's rules and law that was the same as the old testament God, THE SAME GOD, what make you think it not the same God with the same rules apply?
It funny how christian love God but hate the muslim's way, they love and hate God's law the same way
Ever thought about that? It the same.
Quoting: 34
No, it's NOT the same at all because Christians are not trying to revert to atavistic behavior. Christ replaced the law of the Old Testament a couple of thousand years ago. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 11/18/2009 2:35 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Nothing says religion of peace like stoning someone to death for having sex.
So says the BBC????? Pfft! lets see the video footage?.
There are plenty of examples on Youtube, and sites like faithfreedom.org. I don't know why you wouldn't believe this, it happens all the time..
Because I wasn't there to see it with my OWN eyes and neither were any of you people, yet you all will quickly jump on the band wagon cause the BBC said so??, please this is the royal hand being played here and everyone is buying it.Why do You think this is all happening now huh?, all these crazy ass Muslim stories coming out in the past few months, they(TPTB) are setting us all up for a big fall my friend.
What are you talking about?
I have been posting 'crazy ass' Muslim stories for the past 2 years..there is more than enough material for next 10 years..
Quoting: JADR
Yeah, like this is an isolated incident? It's routine and celebrated ALL OVER the muslim world.
There is even a site I think it is AmericanDaughter.com that has video of an actual eye being gouged out under Sharia law as well as multiple stonings.
Sometimes they put a sheet over the victim being stoned and other times they don't.
And only a male can witness and declare something was a rape, has to be more than one of those even. Otherwise, unless she can produce something like four male witnesses, a rape vicitm is the one who is guilty of adultry and stoned even if just a child.
Should she manage to escape capture, she still faces the honor killing aspect. And that has been brought to this country compliments of the religion of peace.
One man was even already under FBI surviellance suspected of terrorist connections when they HEARD him stabbing his daughter to death for being "too Western"! Caught the whole thing on tape much to his surprise. And the mother assisted him.
And the apologists for this kind of thing do always think themelves so much more enlightened and are the first to lecture others for not also condoning it! Go figure. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 821334 United States 11/18/2009 2:43 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
lool yo I'm Somalian and this is some bullshit, this aint Islam, its the elites and their proxies tearing my country apart. Sad reality of my people are selling their souls and killing their own people.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 627484 Canada 11/18/2009 3:14 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
Our fathers watched as we incinerated over 100,000 people in Japan, "to end the war".
Glass houses.
THEY FUCKING WELL DESERVED IT TOO, ASSHOLE.
YOU FORGOT PEARL HARBOR, BATAAN, WAKE, BURMA, CHINA, MANCHURIA?
FUCKING MAGGOTS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AND THANK OUR "FATHERS" AND BROTHERS WHO PAID WITH THEIR LIVES SO YOU CAN SIT ON YOUR USELESS ASS AND MOCK THEM.
GO FUCK YOURSELF, SAMBO.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821497
+1...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 564424 United States 11/18/2009 3:32 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
lool yo I'm Somalian and this is some bullshit, this aint Islam, its the elites and their proxies tearing my country apart. Sad reality of my people are selling their souls and killing their own people.
Quoting: ntakar 800796
LMAO
A Somalian would no use the slang "yo" or "this is some bullshit" or "aint"...etc.
Somalia is almost 100% Muslim, so almost 100% of Somalia is the elite or their proxies?
THEY FUCKING WELL DESERVED IT TOO, ASSHOLE.
YOU FORGOT PEARL HARBOR, BATAAN, WAKE, BURMA, CHINA, MANCHURIA?
FUCKING MAGGOTS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AND THANK OUR "FATHERS" AND BROTHERS WHO PAID WITH THEIR LIVES SO YOU CAN SIT ON YOUR USELESS ASS AND MOCK THEM.
GO FUCK YOURSELF, SAMBO.
+1...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 627484
+1 for what?
Letting the Muslim sympathizer get to them?
For going off topic?
LOL.
NightWisp User ID: 754288 United States 11/18/2009 3:36 PM
Re: Sharia in action: Somali woman buried to the waist and stoned to death for "adultery"
lool yo I'm Somalian and this is some bullshit, this aint Islam, its the elites and their proxies tearing my country apart. Sad reality of my people are selling their souls and killing their own people.
LMAO
A Somalian would no use the slang "yo" or "this is some bullshit" or "aint"...etc.
Somalia is almost 100% Muslim, so almost 100% of Somalia is the elite or their proxies?
THEY FUCKING WELL DESERVED IT TOO, ASSHOLE.
YOU FORGOT PEARL HARBOR, BATAAN, WAKE, BURMA, CHINA, MANCHURIA?
FUCKING MAGGOTS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AND THANK OUR "FATHERS" AND BROTHERS WHO PAID WITH THEIR LIVES SO YOU CAN SIT ON YOUR USELESS ASS AND MOCK THEM.
GO FUCK YOURSELF, SAMBO.
+1...
+1 for what?
Letting the Muslim sympathizer get to them?
For going off topic?
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