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In March 31, 1913, Congress signed a surrender treaty to the international banking cartel. Congress ceded its sovereignty to the Federal Reserve by surrendering its money printing authority.

The 16th amendment sold all US citizens into slavery via the income tax. After 1913, bankruptcy was inevitable, although it wasn't formally declared until later.

Under the Federal Reserve System, the Compound Interest Paradox guaranteed that government debt would grow exponentially. Under the Federal Reserve System, the amount of dollars in circulation was greater than the amount of physical gold in the US treasury. This guaranteed an eventual default. People didn't immediately demand to exchange their dollars for gold, because they didn't understand how badly they had been cheated. It wasn't obvious until the banking crisis in 1933.

In 1929, the international banking cartel jacked up interest rates everywhere, causing a worldwide depression. The Compound Interest Paradox caused all the money to drain out of the world economy. The international banks knew about the credit crunch in advance. They stopped issuing loans before the crash and bought assets cheap after the crash.

There were secret meetings where the international banking cartel negotiated with all the major world governments. Every world government secretly declared bankruptcy. Bankruptcy treaties were ratified. The bankruptcy treaty was never formally declared to the public. Laws were gradually implemented that formalized the terms of the bankruptcy proceeding.

In 1933, President Roosevelt formally declared bankruptcy to the US public. He told them that the US government was defaulting on its promise that dollars were backed with gold. He demanded that US citizens turn over their gold in exchange for worthless dollars.

Even though bankruptcy was declared, President Roosevelt kept the US government going by executive order. The US government has been operating under marshal law since 1933, although this has been carefully kept secret from the general public.

Corporations can continue operations even though they are bankrupt. As long as enough interest payments are made to satisfy the creditors, operations may continue. Corporations can operate for years while in bankruptcy protection. As long as the creditors deem it to be in their best interests, they allow operations to continue during the bankruptcy reorganization.

Similarly, the US government has continued operations even though it's formally bankrupt. Technically, the US government has ceased to exist. Its current operations are one protracted bankruptcy proceeding. Its operations vaguely resemble its original structure, so the details of the formal bankruptcy are kept hidden. Interest payments (income taxes) are made to the creditors, so operations are allowed to continue. The US government is allowed to continue to exist with permission from its creditor, the international banking cartel.

That's the reason tax protesters are forbidden from mentioning the Constitution when defending themselves. That's the reason red market enforcers aren't required to cite the specific laws that require people to pay income taxes and disclose all economic activity to the government. In a bankruptcy proceeding, the creditors are running the corporation and making up the rules. The creditor is the international banking cartel. US citizens have to pay income taxes. That's part of the surrender treaty and bankruptcy process.

That's the reason the President, Congress, and Supreme Court are able to flagrantly violate the Constitution. The Constitution has no legal standing anymore.

A bankruptcy proceeding cannot continue forever. At some point, either the creditors convert their debt to equity or a liquidation occurs.

A conversion from debt to equity would involve a repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and a repeal of the 16th amendment. That isn't going to happen. That is the hope of Ron Paul's campaign supporters. If the creditor decides to convert his debt to equity, he will allow Ron Paul to be elected President and pass his reforms.

The purpose of Ron Paul's presidential campaign is not to convert the debt to equity. The purpose is to announce the liquidation. When Ron Paul is cheated out of the Republican nomination, it will be obvious to everyone that it is time for a liquidation. (Maybe not everyone, just those people who are smart enough to count for anything.)

The creditors of the US bankruptcy proceeding have decided that they prefer a liquidation over equity in the US government. Pretty soon, the US government is going to be denied bankruptcy protection. All world governments have declared bankruptcy and surrendered to the international banking cartel. All world governments are going to be liquidated, not just the US government.

I believe that the Supreme Leader of Humanity and the leaders of the international banking cartel have decided that it is time for the final liquidation of this bankruptcy proceeding. They are intentionally allowing the coming agorist revolution to occur, so the US government can finally be liquidated. They will allow the current system to survive until the replacement system is in place. An agorist revolution should be mostly peaceful, so there probably won't be a lot of casualties during the transition. The violence will come from red market agents resisting the liquidation.

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Every single country is actaully a registered corporation except the so-called axis of evil. These are the last non-usuary bankrupted nations not under control of the IMF.

There is no Russia verses America, China is also operating under bankruptcy but its people have not all been pledged as an asset to the IMF via the registration of live birth that everybody 'unknowningly' but with free will feels out when their children are born.

America, the UK, Canada, & Australia have been allowed to continue to operate under bankruptcy aslong as they subjegate the rest of the world.

Russia attempted to bring Afghanistan under control & failed so now its the West's turn.

We are actually in uncharted waters, as the banking cartel is attempting to liquidate it's non-preforming stock, ie the useless eaters with a bio weapon vaccine.
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interesting point of view ...thanks for sharing
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In March 31, 1913, Congress signed a surrender treaty to the international banking cartel. Congress ceded its sovereignty to the Federal Reserve by surrendering its money printing authority.

The 16th amendment sold all US citizens into slavery via the income tax. After 1913, bankruptcy was inevitable, although it wasn't formally declared until later.

Under the Federal Reserve System, the Compound Interest Paradox guaranteed that government debt would grow exponentially. Under the Federal Reserve System, the amount of dollars in circulation was greater than the amount of physical gold in the US treasury. This guaranteed an eventual default. People didn't immediately demand to exchange their dollars for gold, because they didn't understand how badly they had been cheated. It wasn't obvious until the banking crisis in 1933.

In 1929, the international banking cartel jacked up interest rates everywhere, causing a worldwide depression. The Compound Interest Paradox caused all the money to drain out of the world economy. The international banks knew about the credit crunch in advance. They stopped issuing loans before the crash and bought assets cheap after the crash.

There were secret meetings where the international banking cartel negotiated with all the major world governments. Every world government secretly declared bankruptcy. Bankruptcy treaties were ratified. The bankruptcy treaty was never formally declared to the public. Laws were gradually implemented that formalized the terms of the bankruptcy proceeding.

In 1933, President Roosevelt formally declared bankruptcy to the US public. He told them that the US government was defaulting on its promise that dollars were backed with gold. He demanded that US citizens turn over their gold in exchange for worthless dollars.

Even though bankruptcy was declared, President Roosevelt kept the US government going by executive order. The US government has been operating under marshal law since 1933, although this has been carefully kept secret from the general public.

Corporations can continue operations even though they are bankrupt. As long as enough interest payments are made to satisfy the creditors, operations may continue. Corporations can operate for years while in bankruptcy protection. As long as the creditors deem it to be in their best interests, they allow operations to continue during the bankruptcy reorganization.

Similarly, the US government has continued operations even though it's formally bankrupt. Technically, the US government has ceased to exist. Its current operations are one protracted bankruptcy proceeding. Its operations vaguely resemble its original structure, so the details of the formal bankruptcy are kept hidden. Interest payments (income taxes) are made to the creditors, so operations are allowed to continue. The US government is allowed to continue to exist with permission from its creditor, the international banking cartel.

That's the reason tax protesters are forbidden from mentioning the Constitution when defending themselves. That's the reason red market enforcers aren't required to cite the specific laws that require people to pay income taxes and disclose all economic activity to the government. In a bankruptcy proceeding, the creditors are running the corporation and making up the rules. The creditor is the international banking cartel. US citizens have to pay income taxes. That's part of the surrender treaty and bankruptcy process.

That's the reason the President, Congress, and Supreme Court are able to flagrantly violate the Constitution. The Constitution has no legal standing anymore.

A bankruptcy proceeding cannot continue forever. At some point, either the creditors convert their debt to equity or a liquidation occurs.

A conversion from debt to equity would involve a repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and a repeal of the 16th amendment. That isn't going to happen. That is the hope of Ron Paul's campaign supporters. If the creditor decides to convert his debt to equity, he will allow Ron Paul to be elected President and pass his reforms.

The purpose of Ron Paul's presidential campaign is not to convert the debt to equity. The purpose is to announce the liquidation. When Ron Paul is cheated out of the Republican nomination, it will be obvious to everyone that it is time for a liquidation. (Maybe not everyone, just those people who are smart enough to count for anything.)

The creditors of the US bankruptcy proceeding have decided that they prefer a liquidation over equity in the US government. Pretty soon, the US government is going to be denied bankruptcy protection. All world governments have declared bankruptcy and surrendered to the international banking cartel. All world governments are going to be liquidated, not just the US government.

I believe that the Supreme Leader of Humanity and the leaders of the international banking cartel have decided that it is time for the final liquidation of this bankruptcy proceeding. They are intentionally allowing the coming agorist revolution to occur, so the US government can finally be liquidated. They will allow the current system to survive until the replacement system is in place. An agorist revolution should be mostly peaceful, so there probably won't be a lot of casualties during the transition. The violence will come from red market agents resisting the liquidation.

Posted by FSK at 9:16 AM
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...your close,the world surrendered to base 211 during ww1, we are disguised as bankers...basel III= base-l III=base,l looks like a 1/III=base 1+1=2/II == Base 211...I'm basis 211 vertretungen...hi
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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In the world of control systems. Three letter matter. L R C.

The R is the federal reserve. (monetary policy) The C is the human spirit.

The L is passion. enjoy your tax code. I'll enjoy your daughters when I get rid Glass Steagal.

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the state's actions can not override God's Law and our divine nature. Oppression is government especially with a monopolization of the creation of money and the means of production.

Regardless, the bankers are the problem. They create wars to sell guns and loans. It's that simple. I do not recognize this lie of a system any more. But I still have a restrainer - the bible, Christ , and respect of the Almighty. Thus man's laws are for godless = lawless people.

I am grateful to have the government to control the highways and provide me with some basics. But I am not owned by anyone but my creator. You may have a piece of paper with a made up, imaginary game you are playing but it doesn't rule me.

If I am thrown in jail than I simply am a political, and spiritual prisoner. Nothing more. There is comfort in this. You may have my body but never without my Father in Heaven's permission because I have been given dominion over all through Jesus Christ the Lord. The King of Kings.

This is why they hate you so much. Because the dark can not exist where the light shines.

Peace and Love
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FACT : Congress is delegated power to a) coin money (stamp bullion) and b) borrow money.
Congress has NO POWER to create money. If it did, why would it need the power to borrow that which it can create.

Since 1933, no money has circulated (as defined by law).
Notes (aka "dollar bills") are legal tender upon obligated parties to said notes.

Pursuant to Title 12 USC Sec. 411, the notes are obligations of the U.S. Government, and can be tendered in lieu of lawful money.

...
So how did YOU become obligated to accept worthless notes?

See the Federal Insurance Contribution Act of 1935.
As a "contributor" (equally liable on the public debt) those notes became YOUR NOTES, and you must accept them in lieu of lawful money.

CONTRIBUTION - ... The share of a loss payable by an insurer when contracts with two or more insurers cover the same loss... The sharing of loss or payment among several...
--- Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed., p. 328

And, no, Social Security was NEVER insurance for YOU.

[link to www.ssa.gov]
[link to www.scribd.com]
"One of the most enduring myths of Social Security is that a worker has a legal right to his Social Security benefits. Many workers assume that, if they pay Social Security taxes into the system, they have some sort of legal guarantee to the system's benefits. The truth is exactly the opposite. It has long been law that there is no legal right to Social Security. In two important cases, Helvering v. Davis and Flemming v. Nestor,the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Social Security taxes are simply taxes and convey no property or contractual rights to Social Security benefits."

If you were misled to assume FICA/ socialist insecurity was "insurance" for you or that you "paid into a trust fund"...
OOPS!
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FACT : Congress is delegated power to a) coin money (stamp bullion) and b) borrow money.
Congress has NO POWER to create money. If it did, why would it need the power to borrow that which it can create.

Since 1933, no money has circulated (as defined by law).
Notes (aka "dollar bills") are legal tender upon obligated parties to said notes.

Pursuant to Title 12 USC Sec. 411, the notes are obligations of the U.S. Government, and can be tendered in lieu of lawful money.

...
So how did YOU become obligated to accept worthless notes?

See the Federal Insurance Contribution Act of 1935.
As a "contributor" (equally liable on the public debt) those notes became YOUR NOTES, and you must accept them in lieu of lawful money.

CONTRIBUTION - ... The share of a loss payable by an insurer when contracts with two or more insurers cover the same loss... The sharing of loss or payment among several...
--- Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed., p. 328

And, no, Social Security was NEVER insurance for YOU.

[link to www.ssa.gov]
[link to www.scribd.com]
"One of the most enduring myths of Social Security is that a worker has a legal right to his Social Security benefits. Many workers assume that, if they pay Social Security taxes into the system, they have some sort of legal guarantee to the system's benefits. The truth is exactly the opposite. It has long been law that there is no legal right to Social Security. In two important cases, Helvering v. Davis and Flemming v. Nestor,the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Social Security taxes are simply taxes and convey no property or contractual rights to Social Security benefits."

If you were misled to assume FICA/ socialist insecurity was "insurance" for you or that you "paid into a trust fund"...
OOPS!
 Quoting: jetgraphics



All that delegation of power came from the people. Right now, it seems to me the people have recinded this for abuse...it happened in colonial times...and it's happening now. There is a quite civil disobedience that is not told to you by the media. No one respects the idiotic and illeagl crap coming out of DC and many of the states.
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Every single country is actaully a registered corporation except the so-called axis of evil. These are the last non-usuary bankrupted nations not under control of the IMF.

There is no Russia verses America, China is also operating under bankruptcy but its people have not all been pledged as an asset to the IMF via the registration of live birth that everybody 'unknowningly' but with free will feels out when their children are born.

America, the UK, Canada, & Australia have been allowed to continue to operate under bankruptcy aslong as they subjegate the rest of the world.

Russia attempted to bring Afghanistan under control & failed so now its the West's turn.

We are actually in uncharted waters, as the banking cartel is attempting to liquidate it's non-preforming stock, ie the useless eaters with a bio weapon vaccine.
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Problem, reaction, solution.

Problem (Bankers), reaction (Bankers try to collect), Solution (2nd Amendment no bankers, no debt)

Easy
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FACT : Congress is delegated power to a) coin money (stamp bullion) and b) borrow money.
Congress has NO POWER to create money. If it did, why would it need the power to borrow that which it can create.

Since 1933, no money has circulated (as defined by law).
Notes (aka "dollar bills") are legal tender upon obligated parties to said notes.

Pursuant to Title 12 USC Sec. 411, the notes are obligations of the U.S. Government, and can be tendered in lieu of lawful money.

...
So how did YOU become obligated to accept worthless notes?

See the Federal Insurance Contribution Act of 1935.
As a "contributor" (equally liable on the public debt) those notes became YOUR NOTES, and you must accept them in lieu of lawful money.

CONTRIBUTION - ... The share of a loss payable by an insurer when contracts with two or more insurers cover the same loss... The sharing of loss or payment among several...
--- Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed., p. 328

And, no, Social Security was NEVER insurance for YOU.

[link to www.ssa.gov]
[link to www.scribd.com]
"One of the most enduring myths of Social Security is that a worker has a legal right to his Social Security benefits. Many workers assume that, if they pay Social Security taxes into the system, they have some sort of legal guarantee to the system's benefits. The truth is exactly the opposite. It has long been law that there is no legal right to Social Security. In two important cases, Helvering v. Davis and Flemming v. Nestor,the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Social Security taxes are simply taxes and convey no property or contractual rights to Social Security benefits."

If you were misled to assume FICA/ socialist insecurity was "insurance" for you or that you "paid into a trust fund"...
OOPS!
 Quoting: jetgraphics



All that delegation of power came from the people. Right now, it seems to me the people have recinded this for abuse...it happened in colonial times...and it's happening now. There is a quite civil disobedience that is not told to you by the media. No one respects the idiotic and illeagl crap coming out of DC and many of the states.
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NOT TRUE. All Americans did not nor could not vote to ratify the USCON. Therefore, not "all the people" delegated that power to Congress.

However, since participation in FICA is 100% voluntary, each enumerated American has given his consent to be a socialist slave.

Voluntary slaves should not foment a revolt.
It is far simpler to withdraw consent.
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the state's actions can not override God's Law and our divine nature. Oppression is government especially with a monopolization of the creation of money and the means of production.

Regardless, the bankers are the problem. They create wars to sell guns and loans. It's that simple. I do not recognize this lie of a system any more. But I still have a restrainer - the bible, Christ , and respect of the Almighty. Thus man's laws are for godless = lawless people.

I am grateful to have the government to control the highways and provide me with some basics. But I am not owned by anyone but my creator. You may have a piece of paper with a made up, imaginary game you are playing but it doesn't rule me.

If I am thrown in jail than I simply am a political, and spiritual prisoner. Nothing more. There is comfort in this. You may have my body but never without my Father in Heaven's permission because I have been given dominion over all through Jesus Christ the Lord. The King of Kings.

This is why they hate you so much. Because the dark can not exist where the light shines.

Peace and Love
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Well Spoken indeed.
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In March 31, 1913, Congress signed a surrender treaty to the international banking cartel. Congress ceded its sovereignty to the Federal Reserve by surrendering its money printing authority.

[<a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#"><a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">color</a></a>=red] The 16th amendment sold all US citizens into slavery via the income tax. After 1913, bankruptcy was inevitable, although it wasn't formally declared until later.

Under the Federal Reserve System, the Compound Interest Paradox guaranteed that government <a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#"><a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">debt</a></a> would grow exponentially. Under the Federal Reserve System, the amount of dollars in circulation was greater than the amount of physical gold in the US treasury. This guaranteed an eventual default. People didn't immediately demand to exchange their dollars for gold, because they didn't understand how badly they had been cheated. It wasn't obvious until the banking crisis in 1933.

In 1929, the international banking cartel jacked up interest rates everywhere, causing a worldwide depression. The Compound Interest Paradox caused all the money to drain out of the world economy. The international banks knew about the <a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">credit</a> crunch in advance. They stopped issuing loans before the crash and bought assets cheap after the crash.

There were secret meetings where the international banking cartel negotiated with all the major world governments. Every world government secretly declared bankruptcy. Bankruptcy treaties were ratified. The bankruptcy treaty was never formally declared to the public. Laws were gradually implemented that formalized the terms of the bankruptcy proceeding.

In 1933, President Roosevelt formally declared bankruptcy to the US public. He told them that the US government was defaulting on its promise that dollars were backed with gold. He demanded that US citizens turn over their gold in exchange for worthless dollars.

Even though bankruptcy was declared, President Roosevelt kept the US government going by executive order. The US government has been operating under marshal law since 1933, although this has been carefully kept secret from the general public.

Corporations can continue operations even though they are bankrupt. As long as enough interest payments are made to satisfy the creditors, operations may continue. Corporations can operate for years while in bankruptcy protection. As long as the creditors deem it to be in their best interests, they allow operations to continue during the bankruptcy reorganization.

Similarly, the US government has continued operations even though it's formally bankrupt. Technically, the US government has ceased to exist. Its current operations are one protracted bankruptcy proceeding. Its operations vaguely resemble its original structure, so the details of the formal bankruptcy are kept hidden. Interest payments (income taxes) are made to the creditors, so operations are allowed to continue. The US government is allowed to continue to exist with permission from its creditor, the international banking cartel.

That's the reason tax protesters are forbidden from mentioning the Constitution when defending themselves. That's the reason red market enforcers aren't required to cite the specific laws that require people to pay income taxes and disclose all economic activity to the government. In a bankruptcy proceeding, the creditors are running the corporation and making up the rules. The creditor is the international banking cartel. US citizens have to pay income taxes. That's part of the surrender treaty and bankruptcy process.

That's the reason the President, Congress, and Supreme Court are able to flagrantly violate the Constitution. The Constitution has no legal standing anymore.

A bankruptcy proceeding cannot continue forever. At some point, either the creditors convert their debt to equity or a liquidation occurs.

A conversion from debt to equity would involve a repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and a repeal of the 16th amendment. That isn't going to happen. That is the hope of Ron Paul's campaign supporters. If the creditor decides to convert his debt to equity, he will allow Ron Paul to be elected President and pass his reforms.

The purpose of Ron Paul's presidential campaign is not to convert the debt to equity. The purpose is to announce the liquidation. When Ron Paul is cheated out of the Republican nomination, it will be obvious to everyone that it is time for a liquidation. (Maybe not everyone, just those people who are smart enough to count for anything.)

The creditors of the US bankruptcy proceeding have decided that they prefer a liquidation over equity in the US government. Pretty soon, the US government is going to be denied bankruptcy protection. All world governments have declared bankruptcy and surrendered to the international banking cartel. All world governments are going to be liquidated, not just the US government.

I believe that the Supreme Leader of Humanity and the leaders of the international banking cartel have decided that it is time for the final liquidation of this bankruptcy proceeding. They are intentionally allowing the coming agorist revolution to occur, so the US government can finally be liquidated. They will allow the current system to survive until the replacement system is in place. An agorist revolution should be mostly peaceful, so there probably won't be a lot of casualties during the transition. The violence will come from red market agents resisting the liquidation.

Posted by FSK at 9:16 AM
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Interesting that their 100 year agreement is up =)

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Bankes don't raise or lowr the interest rates.

The consumers do.

When consumers increase their demands for credit...this increases the money supply which flows into the bond markets and bids up bonds and yield drop.

but when consumers become exhausted...consumers decrease their demands for credit...bonds get sold off and drop in price...causing yield to rise.

Central banks claim they are raising or lowering rates...to fool you all into thinking they have power.

"The great depression was caused by the collapse of the German carry trade...

Basically the winning powers had Germany on the run retreating back into Germany in late 1918.

At the start France crossed Germany's border first and was repulsed and then Germany invaded France...That was a big mistake...

"ARTICLE 235 The Versailles Treaty June 28, 1919

In order to enable the Allied and Associated Powers to proceed at once to the restoration of their industrial and economic life, pending the full determination of their claims, Germany shall pay in such installments and in such manner (whether in gold, commodities, ships, securities or otherwise) as the Reparation Commission may fix, during 1919, 1920 and the first four months Of 1921 , the equivalent of 20,000,000,000 gold marks."

2790 Gold marks equalled 2.2 Lb of pure gold.

15,770,609 Lb of Gold or 7885 short tons of gold or 229,935,483 oz of Gold...

Quite a bit of GOLD...Especially when the total above ground stock around that time was around 50,000 tons with around 25,000 tons monetary Gold world wide...

And Germany certainly did not have 7885 short tons of gold in 1919 1920 or 1921...It was broke after WW1

What to do then?

The British (Bank of England) basically told Germany to print marks to buy GOLD...From? The winning powers...

The Looting of Germany carry trade...Germany printed marks and then bought Gold then the amount of GOLD they owed dropped and the winning Powers still had GOLD and loads of marks...what to do with all those marks? send them home to roost buying raw materials and finished goods...

The marks flooded into the German commercial banking system allowing it to inflate the debt supply in Germany...The more GOLD Germany bought the more marks they had to print...Which caused the purchasing power to drop...It was quickly losing it's value...

But outside of Germany all the currencies were quickly gaining value...Basically German exports were getting constantly cheaper and cheaper...A free give away of German raw material and finished products basically...

This fueled the Roaring 20's until the mark was losing value so fast that it basically caused prices inside Germany to hyperinflate until it was impossible to account...The looting of Germany carry trade collapsed in 1924 after about 14 months of Hyperinflation of prices or a hyperdeflation of the value of the mark ...

side note...

Winston Churchill was Chancellor of the Exchequer (Treasury) of the United Kingdom from November 6, 1924 - June 4, 1929...

The collapse of the carry trade caused a hyperdeflationary implosion of the banking/monetary system in Germany and the shock wave spread out into the Global system and reached the USA by late 1926 and visibly manifested with the market crash October 21 1929...Since real estate began caving in first and the sell off there flowed into the Stock markets in search of yield inflating them from 1927 to 1929 in a massive mania...

The Great depression inside of the USA was caused by a collapse in debt inflation in the USA due to the implosion of the roaring 20's post world war 1 looting of Germany carry trade bubble..

It bankrupted the crown system which began to rapidly implode...It was stopped in 1933...

1933-1945 was the bankruptcy reorganization of the now 318 year old crown global trade system...

Basically the global trade system is going to resume imploding to oblivion since the implosion to oblivion was not prevented...Just postponed.
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damn these "arab" bankers!!!
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The problem with the arab world is that they dont know what to do with spoiled women. I hope monica lewinski is sipping coffee in Europe. I hope Hillary can provide a protection net for her midwife. And I hope Chelsea can be a super good iBanker.

The Student loan Debt Crisis is on point.
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Bankes don't raise or lowr the interest rates.

The consumers do.

When consumers increase their demands for credit...this increases the money supply which flows into the bond markets and bids up bonds and yield drop.

but when consumers become exhausted...consumers decrease their demands for credit...bonds get sold off and drop in price...causing yield to rise.

Central banks claim they are raising or lowering rates...to fool you all into thinking they have power.

"The great depression was caused by the collapse of the German carry trade...

Basically the winning powers had Germany on the run retreating back into Germany in late 1918.

At the start France crossed Germany's border first and was repulsed and then Germany invaded France...That was a big mistake...

"ARTICLE 235 The Versailles Treaty June 28, 1919

In order to enable the Allied and Associated Powers to proceed at once to the restoration of their industrial and economic life, pending the full determination of their claims, Germany shall pay in such installments and in such manner (whether in gold, commodities, ships, securities or otherwise) as the Reparation Commission may fix, during 1919, 1920 and the first four months Of 1921 , the equivalent of 20,000,000,000 gold marks."

2790 Gold marks equalled 2.2 Lb of pure gold.

15,770,609 Lb of Gold or 7885 short tons of gold or 229,935,483 oz of Gold...

Quite a bit of GOLD...Especially when the total above ground stock around that time was around 50,000 tons with around 25,000 tons monetary Gold world wide...

And Germany certainly did not have 7885 short tons of gold in 1919 1920 or 1921...It was broke after WW1

What to do then?

The British (Bank of England) basically told Germany to print marks to buy GOLD...From? The winning powers...

The Looting of Germany carry trade...Germany printed marks and then bought Gold then the amount of GOLD they owed dropped and the winning Powers still had GOLD and loads of marks...what to do with all those marks? send them home to roost buying raw materials and finished goods...

The marks flooded into the German commercial banking system allowing it to inflate the debt supply in Germany...The more GOLD Germany bought the more marks they had to print...Which caused the purchasing power to drop...It was quickly losing it's value...

But outside of Germany all the currencies were quickly gaining value...Basically German exports were getting constantly cheaper and cheaper...A free give away of German raw material and finished products basically...

This fueled the Roaring 20's until the mark was losing value so fast that it basically caused prices inside Germany to hyperinflate until it was impossible to account...The looting of Germany carry trade collapsed in 1924 after about 14 months of Hyperinflation of prices or a hyperdeflation of the value of the mark ...

side note...

Winston Churchill was Chancellor of the Exchequer (Treasury) of the United Kingdom from November 6, 1924 - June 4, 1929...

The collapse of the carry trade caused a hyperdeflationary implosion of the banking/monetary system in Germany and the shock wave spread out into the Global system and reached the USA by late 1926 and visibly manifested with the market crash October 21 1929...Since real estate began caving in first and the sell off there flowed into the Stock markets in search of yield inflating them from 1927 to 1929 in a massive mania...

The Great depression inside of the USA was caused by a collapse in debt inflation in the USA due to the implosion of the roaring 20's post world war 1 looting of Germany carry trade bubble..

It bankrupted the crown system which began to rapidly implode...It was stopped in 1933...

1933-1945 was the bankruptcy reorganization of the now 318 year old crown global trade system...

Basically the global trade system is going to resume imploding to oblivion since the implosion to oblivion was not prevented...Just postponed.
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Banks don't control interest rates? Really? And they don't control M1, M2, or M3?

I know they don't have to. Because they control the value of said "money", and the cost(s) associated with using said base "units of exchange".
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So is this:

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[link to fskrealityguide.blogspot.com]

In March 31, 1913, Congress signed a surrender treaty to the international banking cartel. Congress ceded its sovereignty to the Federal Reserve by surrendering its money printing authority.

The 16th amendment sold all US citizens into slavery via the income tax. After 1913, bankruptcy was inevitable, although it wasn't formally declared until later.

Under the Federal Reserve System, the Compound Interest Paradox guaranteed that government debt would grow exponentially. Under the Federal Reserve System, the amount of dollars in circulation was greater than the amount of physical gold in the US treasury. This guaranteed an eventual default. People didn't immediately demand to exchange their dollars for gold, because they didn't understand how badly they had been cheated. It wasn't obvious until the banking crisis in 1933.

In 1929, the international banking cartel jacked up interest rates everywhere, causing a worldwide depression. The Compound Interest Paradox caused all the money to drain out of the world economy. The international banks knew about the credit crunch in advance. They stopped issuing loans before the crash and bought assets cheap after the crash.

There were secret meetings where the international banking cartel negotiated with all the major world governments. Every world government secretly declared bankruptcy. Bankruptcy treaties were ratified. The bankruptcy treaty was never formally declared to the public. Laws were gradually implemented that formalized the terms of the bankruptcy proceeding.

In 1933, President Roosevelt formally declared bankruptcy to the US public. He told them that the US government was defaulting on its promise that dollars were backed with gold. He demanded that US citizens turn over their gold in exchange for worthless dollars.

Even though bankruptcy was declared, President Roosevelt kept the US government going by executive order. The US government has been operating under marshal law since 1933, although this has been carefully kept secret from the general public.

Corporations can continue operations even though they are bankrupt. As long as enough interest payments are made to satisfy the creditors, operations may continue. Corporations can operate for years while in bankruptcy protection. As long as the creditors deem it to be in their best interests, they allow operations to continue during the bankruptcy reorganization.

Similarly, the US government has continued operations even though it's formally bankrupt. Technically, the US government has ceased to exist. Its current operations are one protracted bankruptcy proceeding. Its operations vaguely resemble its original structure, so the details of the formal bankruptcy are kept hidden. Interest payments (income taxes) are made to the creditors, so operations are allowed to continue. The US government is allowed to continue to exist with permission from its creditor, the international banking cartel.

That's the reason tax protesters are forbidden from mentioning the Constitution when defending themselves. That's the reason red market enforcers aren't required to cite the specific laws that require people to pay income taxes and disclose all economic activity to the government. In a bankruptcy proceeding, the creditors are running the corporation and making up the rules. The creditor is the international banking cartel. US citizens have to pay income taxes. That's part of the surrender treaty and bankruptcy process.

That's the reason the President, Congress, and Supreme Court are able to flagrantly violate the Constitution. The Constitution has no legal standing anymore.

A bankruptcy proceeding cannot continue forever. At some point, either the creditors convert their debt to equity or a liquidation occurs.

A conversion from debt to equity would involve a repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and a repeal of the 16th amendment. That isn't going to happen. That is the hope of Ron Paul's campaign supporters. If the creditor decides to convert his debt to equity, he will allow Ron Paul to be elected President and pass his reforms.

The purpose of Ron Paul's presidential campaign is not to convert the debt to equity. The purpose is to announce the liquidation. When Ron Paul is cheated out of the Republican nomination, it will be obvious to everyone that it is time for a liquidation. (Maybe not everyone, just those people who are smart enough to count for anything.)

The creditors of the US bankruptcy proceeding have decided that they prefer a liquidation over equity in the US government. Pretty soon, the US government is going to be denied bankruptcy protection. All world governments have declared bankruptcy and surrendered to the international banking cartel. All world governments are going to be liquidated, not just the US government.

I believe that the Supreme Leader of Humanity and the leaders of the international banking cartel have decided that it is time for the final liquidation of this bankruptcy proceeding. They are intentionally allowing the coming agorist revolution to occur, so the US government can finally be liquidated. They will allow the current system to survive until the replacement system is in place. An agorist revolution should be mostly peaceful, so there probably won't be a lot of casualties during the transition. The violence will come from red market agents resisting the liquidation.

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Yup, right on!

America is long dead!
Thread: Truth on July 4.. Founding Fathers Independence FROM CENTRAL BANKS! We're celebrating what is DEAD!!!!


So what was the primary reason for the Revolutionary War which lead to our Independence to where we're "celebrating" July 4th?

Here is the answer,
Benjamin Franklin:
“The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. The inability of the colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the prime reason for the Revolutionary War.”

Well what were they intending to set up?
Benjamin Franklin:
"In the colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Script. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers.
In this manner, creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one.”

The roots of America was intended to be TAX FREE, where our own country had the ability to create it's own money supply.
Where we controlled our economy, NOT CENTRAL BANKS.
Again the prime reason for the Revolutionary War was the inability of us to create our own money supply as said by Benjamin Franklin.
What about other founding fathers.. what else were their intentions and values?

Thomas Jefferson:
“I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution – taking from the federal government their power of borrowing.”

Thomas Jefferson:
"If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks, and corporations that grow up around them, will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a money aristocracy that has set the government at defiance.
THE ISSUING POWER SHOULD BE TAKEN FROM THE BANKS AND RESTORED TO THE GOVERNMENT TO WHOM IT PROPERLY BELONGS."

Andrew Jackson:
"The bold efforts that the present bank has made to CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT and the distress it has wantonly caused, are but premonitions of the fate which awaits the American people should they be deluded into a per-petuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it...If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system there would be a revolution before morning."

There you have it, some of our founding fathers and their stance on money and banking.. mostly importantly WARNINGS to the American people.
America is now ruled by bankers, we have income tax and America is in debt to the trillions of dollars and the economy is stir

It's obvious what we were always up against,
London Times in 1865…:
“If this mischievous financial policy [of creating a debt-free currency], which has its origin in the American Republic, shall become permanent, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.”

Woodrow Wilson, President who signed in the Federal Reserve:
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

Henry Ford:
"It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

In the early 30s America went bankrupt, here is a powerful quote from Louis Thomas McFadden.. a Member of the U.S. House of Representatives whom was shortly killed there after:
"Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government board, has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board has cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.
Some people think the Federal Reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime."







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This is from Thursday, September 20, 2007.
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Bankes don't raise or lowr the interest rates.

The consumers do.

When consumers increase their demands for credit...this increases the money supply which flows into the bond markets and bids up bonds and yield drop.

but when consumers become exhausted...consumers decrease their demands for credit...bonds get sold off and drop in price...causing yield to rise.

Central banks claim they are raising or lowering rates...to fool you all into thinking they have power.

"The great depression was caused by the collapse of the German carry trade...

Basically the winning powers had Germany on the run retreating back into Germany in late 1918.

At the start France crossed Germany's border first and was repulsed and then Germany invaded France...That was a big mistake...

"ARTICLE 235 The Versailles Treaty June 28, 1919

In order to enable the Allied and Associated Powers to proceed at once to the restoration of their industrial and economic life, pending the full determination of their claims, Germany shall pay in such installments and in such manner (whether in gold, commodities, ships, securities or otherwise) as the Reparation Commission may fix, during 1919, 1920 and the first four months Of 1921 , the equivalent of 20,000,000,000 gold marks."

2790 Gold marks equalled 2.2 Lb of pure gold.

15,770,609 Lb of Gold or 7885 short tons of gold or 229,935,483 oz of Gold...

Quite a bit of GOLD...Especially when the total above ground stock around that time was around 50,000 tons with around 25,000 tons monetary Gold world wide...

And Germany certainly did not have 7885 short tons of gold in 1919 1920 or 1921...It was broke after WW1

What to do then?

The British (Bank of England) basically told Germany to print marks to buy GOLD...From? The winning powers...

The Looting of Germany carry trade...Germany printed marks and then bought Gold then the amount of GOLD they owed dropped and the winning Powers still had GOLD and loads of marks...what to do with all those marks? send them home to roost buying raw materials and finished goods...

The marks flooded into the German commercial banking system allowing it to inflate the debt supply in Germany...The more GOLD Germany bought the more marks they had to print...Which caused the purchasing power to drop...It was quickly losing it's value...

But outside of Germany all the currencies were quickly gaining value...Basically German exports were getting constantly cheaper and cheaper...A free give away of German raw material and finished products basically...

This fueled the Roaring 20's until the mark was losing value so fast that it basically caused prices inside Germany to hyperinflate until it was impossible to account...The looting of Germany carry trade collapsed in 1924 after about 14 months of Hyperinflation of prices or a hyperdeflation of the value of the mark ...

side note...

Winston Churchill was Chancellor of the Exchequer (Treasury) of the United Kingdom from November 6, 1924 - June 4, 1929...

The collapse of the carry trade caused a hyperdeflationary implosion of the banking/monetary system in Germany and the shock wave spread out into the Global system and reached the USA by late 1926 and visibly manifested with the market crash October 21 1929...Since real estate began caving in first and the sell off there flowed into the Stock markets in search of yield inflating them from 1927 to 1929 in a massive mania...

The Great depression inside of the USA was caused by a collapse in debt inflation in the USA due to the implosion of the roaring 20's post world war 1 looting of Germany carry trade bubble..

It bankrupted the crown system which began to rapidly implode...It was stopped in 1933...

1933-1945 was the bankruptcy reorganization of the now 318 year old crown global trade system...

Basically the global trade system is going to resume imploding to oblivion since the implosion to oblivion was not prevented...Just postponed.
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I guess you haven't heard of a little thing called LIBOR.
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all major nations were taken over after ww1 by the rothschilds
controled banking institutions world wide.
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this was a great read top to bottom..

too much to say.. in short..

I hate the bankers of the world
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Non participating is the best form of protest.

Boycott voting ( it already been chosen for you) and avoid all forms of taxes, the system will collapse in months.

Most folks should understand this simple plan to throw out the trash.

Hit them in the pocketbook.
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the problem with that idea is that there are too many sheep that would continue as normal.. enough of them that the few of us who are "awake" wouldnt make a big enough impact..

what we need to do is open the eyes of the masses of sheople.. once the we have shifted into the majority then and only then could we have the desired impact on corporations and government..

but too many ppl are content ... sleeping.. oblivious.. they prefer it that what...

like cypher in the matrix.. he wanted back in, and his memory wiped clean.. the sheep dont want to know the truth.. they are happy..

it just makes me sick..
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the problem with that idea is that there are too many sheep that would continue as normal.. enough of them that the few of us who are "awake" wouldnt make a big enough impact..

what we need to do is open the eyes of the masses of sheople.. once the we have shifted into the majority then and only then could we have the desired impact on corporations and government..

but too many ppl are content ... sleeping.. oblivious.. they prefer it that what...

like cypher in the matrix.. he wanted back in, and his memory wiped clean.. the sheep dont want to know the truth.. they are happy..

it just makes me sick..
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