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***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids***
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snark 
User ID: 790439
 United States
11/18/2009 1:54 PM
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[link to www.foxnews.com]
UH-OH. Causes pneumonia????
Runny nose, fever, cough, even pneumonia — the symptoms sound like swine flu but children hospitalized at one U.S. hospital in fact had a rhinovirus, better known as a common cold virus, doctors said on Tuesday.
Hundreds of children treated at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia had a rhinovirus, and federal health investigators are trying to find out if it was a new strain, and if this is going on elsewhere in the country.
"What began to happen in early September is we started seeing more children coming to our emergency room with significant respiratory illness," said Dr. Susan Coffin, medical director of infection control and prevention at the hospital.
Doctors and parents assumed it was the new pandemic H1N1 swine flu, which would be expected to re-emerge as schools began in September. But it was not, Coffin said in a telephone interview.
The hospital, unlike most hospitals in the United States, runs a test that can diagnose 10 different respiratory viruses, including influenza but also rhinoviruses, parainfluenza viruses and other germs that make kids sick.
"The data showed us it wasn't H1N1 but instead was this rhinovirus infection," Coffin said.
Usually rhinoviruses cause an annoying but benign illness that looks a lot like flu, but with more runny nose and usually less of a fever. This one was causing severe symptoms and even pneumonia.
"Some of these kids had really bad wheezing," Coffin said — so bad they had to be hospitalized and treated with a nebulizer, which delivers drugs into the lungs to help keep oxygen in the blood.
"We don't terribly often have large numbers of children test positive for it," Coffin said.
CDC INVESTIGATING
But she estimated that 500 were hospitalized in September and October, with no deaths that she knows of. Starting in mid-October, H1N1 swine flu started to show up, too.
The U.S. Centers For Disease Control and Prevention is investigating, said CDC spokesman Dave Daigle.
"While rhinovirus outbreaks are common in the fall, the outbreak that occurred this year was unusually large and resulted in a lot of hospital admissions, including many children that required intensive care," Daigle said.
"We're still testing the strains from the outbreak, but from what we've seen so far, it doesn't appear that there's a single predominant strain."
The CDC says while swine flu is above epidemic levels, only 30 percent of cases of so-called influenza-like illness that are tested actually turn out to be H1N1.
Coffin and CDC officials say it is important for people not to assume if they or their children have flu-like symptoms that it was swine flu and that they do not need to be vaccinated.
H1N1 has infected an estimated 22 million people and killed 3,900 in the United States alone. It continues to spread globally and governments are just at the beginning of efforts to vaccinate people against the virus.
There is no vaccine for rhinovirus and no good treatment. For severely ill patients hospitals can try to keep blood oxygen levels up and keep the patients hydrated, often with intravenous lines if they are coughing or wheezing too hard to eat or drink.
Last Edited by snark on 11/18/2009 at 1:56 PM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 820999
United States
11/18/2009 1:57 PM | | Re: ***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids*** | Quote |
quit eating trans fat.
Take a multi vitamin and magnesium.
For virus take selenium. Selenium prevents virus from reproducing soo it won't mutate and go lethal. |
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snark
User ID: 790439
United States
11/18/2009 1:57 PM
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"Some of these kids had really bad wheezing," Coffin said — so bad they had to be hospitalized and treated with a nebulizer, which delivers drugs into the lungs to help keep oxygen in the blood.
Could we be looking at a mutation? A Ukraine connection?
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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Mister Obvious 
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11/18/2009 1:59 PM
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"Some of these kids had really bad wheezing," Coffin said Quoting: snark
What the fuck?
Does anyone share my sentiment?
What the fuck???
That's blatant thought manipulation for literally everyone who reads that article.
This is sick. |
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snark
User ID: 790439
United States
11/18/2009 2:00 PM
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"Some of these kids had really bad wheezing," Coffin said
What the fuck?
Does anyone share my sentiment?
What the fuck???
That's blatant thought manipulation for literally everyone who reads that article.
This is sick. Quoting: Mister Obvious
I too share the what the fuck.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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ShadowFox
User ID: 819933
 Malaysia
11/18/2009 2:17 PM | | Re: ***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids*** | Quote |
Coughing coffin... hahaha... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 821635
United States
11/18/2009 2:33 PM | | Re: ***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids*** | Quote |
My granddaughter just got over this stuff,very bad stuff!they had her on a very big cocktail of drugs just so she could take a normal breath.
It set-up Pneumonia in her left lower lobe of her lungs,and it only took 2 days for this to happen.. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 812062
United States
11/18/2009 2:36 PM | | Re: ***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids*** | Quote |
plague planet. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 294757
United States
11/18/2009 2:38 PM | | Re: ***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids*** | Quote |
I've been saying all along the swine has been WAY over reported. I believe this was deliberate to bring the mortality rate down |
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snark
User ID: 790439
United States
11/18/2009 2:49 PM
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My granddaughter just got over this stuff,very bad stuff!they had her on a very big cocktail of drugs just so she could take a normal breath.
It set-up Pneumonia in her left lower lobe of her lungs,and it only took 2 days for this to happen.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821635
Frightening! Poor little one, the kids are really getting the ass-end of all of this.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 786384
United States
11/18/2009 2:52 PM | | Re: ***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids*** | Quote |
So what is its name, swine, bird, gov, turd, rhino.
Stop having your kids go to the zoo. The animals are trying to kill us.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 799163
United States
11/18/2009 3:03 PM | | Re: ***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids*** | Quote |
What's it name?
H1N1/09
It actually has 5 names but that takes too long. |
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snark
User ID: 790439
United States
11/18/2009 3:06 PM
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So what is its name, swine, bird, gov, turd, rhino.
Stop having your kids go to the zoo. The animals are trying to kill us.
T For Texas, T For Tennessee!
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536
United States
11/18/2009 3:14 PM
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One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778687
 Canada
11/18/2009 3:21 PM | | Re: ***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids*** | Quote |
Excellent find OP.
I think we have to really pay attention to any illness stories involving the lungs.
I don't think they were doing pneumonic plague drills for nothing. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 760139
United States
11/18/2009 3:49 PM | | Re: ***Possible New Rinovirus Mimics H1N1; Hospitalizes Kids*** | Quote |
My son landed in the ER on his 4th birthday in October and it was just a cold. He was fine. The one dr. was just sure he had the flu.....tested negative. I've known several kids who the dr. was convinced they had the flu and they tested negative.
With my son, it was all upper respiratory. He has asthma, though, and this was the first time in 2 years it all stayed upper and didn't end up in his lungs. It was a bad, lingering cold, though. |
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snark
User ID: 790439
United States
11/18/2009 3:53 PM
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Excellent find OP.
I think we have to really pay attention to any illness stories involving the lungs.
I don't think they were doing pneumonic plague drills for nothing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778687
My thoughts exactly.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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