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| meroj
User ID: 781500
 United States
11/19/2009 12:51 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
so your excuse for being selfish is that you're smarter and worked harder that those with less fortune?
that IS dumb!
no worries though!
the same kind of 'EVOLUTION' that your kind believes in will 'take care of you' too!
Being smarter and working harder in terms of survival is knowing where the dangers are and avoiding them.
Being smart is when you are confronted by a wild animal, you either try to "compromise" and feed the animal other prey; or, you can outrun the animal; avoid the animal; or kill the animal.
Now being dumb is allowing the animal to eat you without complaining.
So on an evolutionary scale, the smart ones who know how to work and think of other solutions will survive; the ones who cry about their fate and o nothing die. Which one will evolve? The one that's alive or the one that's dead?
So, yes, being selfish is a matter of survival of the fittest because you want to evolve.
Your way of thinking is for me to always be there to think for the dumb person. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 656642
Very good points/well said, AC, and quite true ! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822334
 Spain
11/19/2009 1:12 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Are you for real?!?!?
Why do you think we let these poor countries exist? Where do you think cheap labor and materials come from?
Oh you really thought ur gucci shoes were made in USA?
Adult americans!
Gimme a fukkin break with the rampant ignorance among americans. It would be hilarious if not so serious.
Ye know what trin and mates...
So much you believe in evolution and survival of the fittest and stuf
Well by your own rule you wont make it.
Simply because you are to dumb and ignorant to be the next step in evolution.
You are the problem we have in this world!
Sorry that you feel that way.
BTW, I don't buy brand names, I do check for the "made in America" label. I shop our local farmer's markets and support our local economy as much as I can.
Why such much rage and hostility? Not very enlightened of you, not very loving and caring toward your fellow man. Aren't you concerned with the plight that your words may incur or the karma that you bring on yourself with such negative thought?
Of course you are not to blame. You dont buy brand names!
You high and mighty american only do good in this world dont ya. Let the poor rot since they are just a lazy bunch who doesnt want to be happy, have a house, life.
I wonder why most homeless in usa are veterans?
Dont you talk to me about love.
Hypocrite |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822334
Spain
11/19/2009 1:14 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Are you for real?!?!?
Why do you think we let these poor countries exist? Where do you think cheap labor and materials come from?
Oh you really thought ur gucci shoes were made in USA?
Adult americans!
Gimme a fukkin break with the rampant ignorance among americans. It would be hilarious if not so serious.
Ye know what trin and mates...
So much you believe in evolution and survival of the fittest and stuf
Well by your own rule you wont make it.
Simply because you are to dumb and ignorant to be the next step in evolution.
You are the problem we have in this world!
Oops, meant to also say the poor countries exist as poor countries because they ALLOW themselves to be poor. The people ALLOW themselves to be victims.
Why don't those poor countries charge more? Snickering, they are providing a service for a CHEAPER price to be more marketable. Let them raise their prices, demand better pay. It all comes down to what the market will bear.
I am tired of pandering to those who refuse to take accountability for their decisions.
Would you stay working in a sweat shop making pennies or would you try to acquire skills and knowledge to better yourself? Or would you just sit there and complain?
Please don't try to guilt me into feeling sorry for people who refuse to help themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 656642
Yeah right.
It is clear you havent been around much and know shit! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
United States
11/19/2009 1:42 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
You high and mighty american only do good in this world dont ya. Let the poor rot since they are just a lazy bunch who doesnt want to be happy, have a house, life.
I wonder why most homeless in usa are veterans?
Dont you talk to me about love.
Hypocrite Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822334
Hugs and love to you as well.
I honestly like to believe that the intent of America's deeds are done to help poor oppressed people find their own voice. The method of delivery may not always be portrayed that way, it all depends on how you view it. There are always two sides to every story. You perceive it one way, I perceive it another.
Do I want to help the poor better themselves? Yes! I want to teach them how to help themselves and not rely on others for help that way they have the tools to survive.
Do I want them to rot? No, only in your mind, your perception.
Tell me have you ever had a friend or relative who always asks you for money, they never repay you, you don't expect payment in return yet they never do anything about their situation to help themselves, they just keep relying on you to help them?
The first 10 or so times, you help them because you want to help but you start noticing that no matter how much you try to give them advice, they ignore it and continue on in their destructive ways? Well pretty soon, you have given them so much money you are going broke, you need help in a non-monetary way, they refuse to help you. Do you still want to keep helping them? |
| jarha 
User ID: 109238
United States
11/19/2009 1:52 PM
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Well since majority votes on isolate why dont ya?
Build a BIG wall around usa call back all citizens military companies weapons diseases garbage DU Mcdonalds bla bla
and leave the world alone.
Live of your own resources and clean your own crap!
You would not even know how to do that, you only know how to exploit the world without giving anything back but crap.
So go ahead isolate, it will be a relief for the world.
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All figures in millions of US dollars (rounded off)
Government - U.S Foreign
---------2006----2005---2004----2003----2002----2001
Total = 2,2828--19,713--19,611--16,136--15,352--14,981
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Individuals and companies - Americans shook off economic uncertainty and gave a record 306.4 billion dollars to charitable causes in 2007, an increase of 3.9 percent for the year.
Now imagine how much of it was going to the World.
Last year I was reading somewhere that US total
financial Help to the World was over 220 Billion USD.
Maybe US should stop giving money out and watch
for 5 years how the World will hate us.
If I am not mistaken, right now everybody
in the World love us. 
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Stop whining and keep your crap.
Millions of tonnes of DU, social and cultural garbage, poisoned food and products keep them all together with your precious worthless dollar.
Like usa did any good to the world.
NOT!
"keep your crap."
That's what I'm talking about. We will keep what we have.
And as for food, I believe you will be very happy to share with poor.
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KNOW THY ENEMY:
THIS IS NOT YOUR MOTHER'S DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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COUNTDOWN TO 12/21/2012
STARTED ON 04/26/2009
We need REVOLUTION
a. a turning round or rotating, as on an axis.
b. a moving in a circular or curving course, as about a central point.
c. a single cycle in such a course.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754773
United States
11/19/2009 2:10 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Americans are too dumb to resist. They are being used as dumb cannon fodder because that's all they are good for. The side benefit is that cannon fodder is good for something and won't be exterminated with the rest of the useless eaters. We will stay one step ahead of the dying hordes. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
United States
11/19/2009 2:12 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Americans are too dumb to resist. They are being used as dumb cannon fodder because that's all they are good for. The side benefit is that cannon fodder is good for something and won't be exterminated with the rest of the useless eaters. We will stay one step ahead of the dying hordes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754773
LOL so you must be European who approves of the EU?
Cannon fodder? Mmmmmm, threat? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754773
United States
11/19/2009 2:15 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
No I am an American dumbass. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
United States
11/19/2009 2:20 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
No I am an American dumbass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754773
I highly doubt that. If you were American you would have stated "we" not "they". We implies that you are an American; they means that you are not.
Your quote:
Americans are too dumb to resist. They are being used as dumb cannon fodder because that's all they are good for. The side benefit is that cannon fodder is good for something and won't be exterminated with the rest of the useless eaters. We will stay one step ahead of the dying hordes.
So in context with whom are you identifying with as "we will stay one step ahead...". Obviously not Americans.
I do believe you are being disingenuous. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754773
United States
11/19/2009 2:22 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
No I am an American dumbass.
I highly doubt that. If you were American you would have stated "we" not "they". We implies that you are an American; they means that you are not.
Your quote:
Americans are too dumb to resist. They are being used as dumb cannon fodder because that's all they are good for. The side benefit is that cannon fodder is good for something and won't be exterminated with the rest of the useless eaters. We will stay one step ahead of the dying hordes.
So in context with whom are you identifying with as "we will stay one step ahead...". Obviously not Americans.
I do believe you are being disingenuous. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 656642
Funny 
You only proved I am a dumbass with weak writing skills. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
United States
11/19/2009 2:28 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
No I am an American dumbass.
I highly doubt that. If you were American you would have stated "we" not "they". We implies that you are an American; they means that you are not.
Your quote:
Americans are too dumb to resist. They are being used as dumb cannon fodder because that's all they are good for. The side benefit is that cannon fodder is good for something and won't be exterminated with the rest of the useless eaters. We will stay one step ahead of the dying hordes.
So in context with whom are you identifying with as "we will stay one step ahead...". Obviously not Americans.
I do believe you are being disingenuous.
Funny
You only proved I am a dumbass with weak writing skills.
No, it is linguistics as well. Even my 4 y/o wouldn't say "they" if he was talking about "his family/his country", he knows enough to say "we".
Weak writing skills my ass...only in that you can't keep your lies straight. |
| Truthseekr
User ID: 757308
United States
11/19/2009 2:32 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Trinity,
Actually that isn't true.
...in fact, we could all have a measure of 'the good life', if we simply defined it differently and were willing to take responsibility for our own freedom.
ah and by define it differently you mean
lower our standard of what the 'good life' is?
Trinity,
No, I do not mean that. I mean REALIZE what the 'good life' REALLY is!
I live in a small rustic cabin on top of a mountain. I pump my own water; chop my own wood for heat; most of my electric comes from solar. Telephone service is sporadic. Most of my furniture is old and/or second-hand.
And I'm happier than a 'pig in shit'. I'd say I have the 'good life'. Yet sadly, most would not see it that way. They would simply consider me lower class. Yet, I'm highly educated, and spend my time working on developing (and knowing) and meditating on the nature of consciousness, which is absolutely fascinating to me.
I do not think it possible to do this in the busy city with all those who 'believe' they have the 'good life'. Their disruptive energies of need and greed would get in the way, creating a magnetic votex that would certainly suck my own mind into it too.
Have you ever read a book called: Mutant Message Down Under by Marlo Morgan?
[ link to www.amazon.com]
It is a true story about the REAl 'GOOD LIFE': The last Aboriginal Tribe in Australia, and the unlikely story of an American Socialogist who unwittingly spends 2 months in the Bush with them.
These wonderful people require NOTHING from the Matrix as they are fully imbued with their own attritbutes for creating, healing and survival. TOTAL Freedom.
Now THAT is the Good life.
you have the perfect life in which i dream for one day.. but add lots of food and herbs growing... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822440
United States
11/19/2009 2:41 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
In my definition of good life...everyone can live the good life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 537928
I agree. There is never one definition of the good life. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822440
United States
11/19/2009 2:49 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
To The OP-
I have not gone through the whole thread but went through far enough to read something along the line of " we have the highest standard of living...".
For a person who has advertised himself as both successful and urbane,it makes me want to ask do you have enough money to take a trip to Europe?
The internet can give you all the info and stats that you want but actually meeting with Europeans (pick your country) and seeing how they live, think and think about life will be but a small dose of how fucked up M'erkans are about the lies that they tell themselves often enough to believe. Medical care for all citizens for only 6 months of 2 Imperial Wars as a small example anyone? I know that you like to build up traffic by being controversial and also in true M'erkan fashion because you are the big cheese you have many fart-catchers here but I find it hard to believe that you are that dense on this issue. Care to comment?
Cheers- Rosi
I was just in France, the Netherlands and England for the last few weeks
what's your point?
their standard of living is far below that of America
honestly it is
my view of that isn't from reading magazines bud
though they do have lovely cultures
the citizens live with far less than their American counterparts Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Living with less 'stuff' makes some people happy. I know it makes me happy. I would love to live in a place where I didn't have to own a car and could take decent public transportation or even ride a bike safely. I would just rent a car if I needed to. And I love small homes also. Less to clean and maintain. I also don't eat a lot but eat well. Everyone can live a good life because not everyone wants things larger than life. And for those who do I don't mind at all. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 548111
 United Kingdom
11/19/2009 2:51 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
losers have a hard time accepting the fact that THEY THEMSELVES are responsible for their own shity state of being
instead they want to blame successful people who must have somehow wronged them to get ahead Quoting: ^TrInItY^
I've never heard such self righteous bullshit in all my life, you should be fucking grateful you were born into an American family and not in a country such as Ethiopia. |
| Rush
Resident Llama Wrestler
User ID: 568849
United States
11/19/2009 2:57 PM
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losers have a hard time accepting the fact that THEY THEMSELVES are responsible for their own shity state of being
instead they want to blame successful people who must have somehow wronged them to get ahead
I've never heard such self righteous bullshit in all my life, you should be fucking grateful you were born into an American family and not in a country such as Ethiopia. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548111
Your not from around these parts here are ya stanger?
Hop along Rush
I've got twelve disciples and a Buddha smile,Garden of Allah, Viking Valhalla A miracle once in a while,
I've got a pantheon of animals in a pagan soul Vishnu and Gaia, Aztec and Maya, Dance around my totem pole
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Exit Stage Left............. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 673609
United States
11/19/2009 3:04 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Living the good life for me isn't about "stuff." It's about learning to maximize what you do have and having contentment and peace of mind. |
| Rush
Resident Llama Wrestler
User ID: 568849
United States
11/19/2009 3:07 PM
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Living the good life for me isn't about "stuff." It's about learning to maximize what you do have and having contentment and peace of mind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673609
right you are.. but its deeper than that.
Rush
I've got twelve disciples and a Buddha smile,Garden of Allah, Viking Valhalla A miracle once in a while,
I've got a pantheon of animals in a pagan soul Vishnu and Gaia, Aztec and Maya, Dance around my totem pole
Visit GLP voice chat..
Exit Stage Left............. |
| Something smells here?
User ID: 792781
United States
11/19/2009 3:17 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Seriously. Everyone cant live the good life? Seriously? I say that's absolute crap. Since 1% of the population controls 90% of the wealth of the world, all we really need to do is redistribute that wealth.
There needs to be a change in conciousness so that wealth doesn't get hoarded by the few again. There needs to be an awakening where people will no longer accept or tolerate the shit anymore. It's not that it CANT happen, its whether or not we can MAKE it happen in time.
As they (the 1%) continue with their domination agenda, we silently sleepwalk as though nothing wrong is happening.
SOMETHING IS WRONG! I've known this all my conscious life, and perhaps before that even. When you throw me that free enterprise bullshit, my answer is simple: they got what they started with by stealing from someone somehow. Whether it was some hidden tax/fee (money lenders of old) or piracy, outright theft/robbery....they TOOK it. Their golden rule is "he who has the gold makes the rules", and so they make rules to KEEP it. Your wealth, our wealth, our freaking planet's resources...claimed by THEM.
Personally I don't care if people wake up or not. I don't care if they EVER take their own power back or not. Really. I'm just here for the show, I already have tickets to the next show, regardless of how this one turns out. Don't misunderstand, I DID care, perhaps too much, but now, THEY made attempting to care, to rock the boat, a crime of the greatest magnitude. Now if I try and wake people up, I am a threat, I get on a list, I can even go to a special jail, where I have NO RIGHTS, where everything which is left to me is TAKEN. So I chose another route, an alternate path, a side trail...I wont rock their boat, and hopefully they will let me just go about my business until it's time for the show, then I'll be on my merry way.
Good luck to you all. |
| Da Swede
User ID: 822467
 Sweden
11/19/2009 3:18 PM
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Or you lie or your ignorance is amazing!
I guess its a bit of both
why would I lie?
all of europe is crawling with muslims now
taxes are 45+ %
socialism is rampid
the people don't have SHIT compared to American citizens
France is at the mercy of the muslim mobs
U.K. is compleatly controled by the state
In the Netherlands your lucky if you even own a car.. (most of them ride bikes)
fuck man
wake up
Oh did I mention NONE of them can own guns?
Shit it's even illegal to cuss in public in England
lmao
yea you got it much better than us over there
now your history is wonderful
I love the culture and history as I said
but unless you're very wealthy you live like a turd compared to even the poorest US citizens Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Absoluteley wrong, Trin, I even doubt you have been much around Europe, based on your statement.
Europe is quite diverse, you can´t compare Sweden with rural Portugal, or Greece. It´s like comparing Manhattan to some hillbilly village. And there´s poverty on both sides of the atlantic, real poverty. A middle class Swedish family surpasses poor US citizens by a very wide margin.
I´ve spent enough time on both sides of the Atlantic, to know this from my own experience.
There are lies, damned lies and 9-11!
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 677020
United States
11/19/2009 3:32 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Trinity's position (and that of many other GLPers) is classic service-to-self rhetoric, attempting to hide their greed behind a facade of logic and reason. Capitalism is inherently flawed for the simple reason that the field is not level as all capitalists claim. People's birth circumstances, country, race, wealth, personal abilities, etc. all have massive effects on whether they have any realistic chance of accumulating wealth NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY WORK. But service-to-selfers always imply that ALL poor are lazy and deserve to be left to die. This argument has been around to justify greed in the world for centuries, if not millenia. It's a self-serving pile of BS. Service-to-selfers are the type that cry the loudest when suddenly bad luck strikes them and then they wonder why no one is lining up to help them out--well, the answer is because you destroyed any decency society had by furthering the aims of the one world corporate order we all now live in. |
| Truthseekr
User ID: 757308
United States
11/19/2009 3:36 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
losers have a hard time accepting the fact that THEY THEMSELVES are responsible for their own shity state of being
instead they want to blame successful people who must have somehow wronged them to get ahead
I've never heard such self righteous bullshit in all my life, you should be fucking grateful you were born into an American family and not in a country such as Ethiopia. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548111
exactly. what about the children who cant feed themselves who did nothing wrong? oh right, its there fault, so fuckem..... horrible thought patterns brought on by mass media..it drives me insane.. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
United States
11/19/2009 3:51 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Trinity's position (and that of many other GLPers) is classic service-to-self rhetoric, attempting to hide their greed behind a facade of logic and reason. Capitalism is inherently flawed for the simple reason that the field is not level as all capitalists claim. People's birth circumstances, country, race, wealth, personal abilities, etc. all have massive effects on whether they have any realistic chance of accumulating wealth NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY WORK. But service-to-selfers always imply that ALL poor are lazy and deserve to be left to die. This argument has been around to justify greed in the world for centuries, if not millenia. It's a self-serving pile of BS. Service-to-selfers are the type that cry the loudest when suddenly bad luck strikes them and then they wonder why no one is lining up to help them out--well, the answer is because you destroyed any decency society had by furthering the aims of the one world corporate order we all now live in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 677020
You don't get it.
You are still basing things on material things.
Guess what? I don't live in a new house, I don't drive a luxury car. I donate my TIME and what money I have.
I live the good life because of the love of my family, my husband and sons.
Why would I want to chase off and spend more time pursuing money? If that was my goal, I would set that as my goal.
My goal for happiness and definition of a good life is being free to choose if I want to pursue that goal. I do not look to others for handouts, except for my employer for providing me work and paying me a salary. If I don't like what I get paid, I have the FREEDOM to get another job, the FREEDOM to choose whether I want to be a success or failure on my own terms.
Re-think what you are saying, your statements are an appeal to the very greed you espouse to loathe. You envy others. You want to be like them, have their money...go for it. No, you want to FORCE them to share their work with you. How is that noble to FORCE? How is it noble to be envious? How is it noble to want only material possessions? How is it noble not to teach a victim mentality? How is it noble to incite class warfare? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 677020
United States
11/19/2009 4:05 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Trinity's position (and that of many other GLPers) is classic service-to-self rhetoric, attempting to hide their greed behind a facade of logic and reason. Capitalism is inherently flawed for the simple reason that the field is not level as all capitalists claim. People's birth circumstances, country, race, wealth, personal abilities, etc. all have massive effects on whether they have any realistic chance of accumulating wealth NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY WORK. But service-to-selfers always imply that ALL poor are lazy and deserve to be left to die. This argument has been around to justify greed in the world for centuries, if not millenia. It's a self-serving pile of BS. Service-to-selfers are the type that cry the loudest when suddenly bad luck strikes them and then they wonder why no one is lining up to help them out--well, the answer is because you destroyed any decency society had by furthering the aims of the one world corporate order we all now live in.
You don't get it.
You are still basing things on material things.
Guess what? I don't live in a new house, I don't drive a luxury car. I donate my TIME and what money I have.
I live the good life because of the love of my family, my husband and sons.
Why would I want to chase off and spend more time pursuing money? If that was my goal, I would set that as my goal.
My goal for happiness and definition of a good life is being free to choose if I want to pursue that goal. I do not look to others for handouts, except for my employer for providing me work and paying me a salary. If I don't like what I get paid, I have the FREEDOM to get another job, the FREEDOM to choose whether I want to be a success or failure on my own terms.
Re-think what you are saying, your statements are an appeal to the very greed you espouse to loathe. You envy others. You want to be like them, have their money...go for it. No, you want to FORCE them to share their work with you. How is that noble to FORCE? How is it noble to be envious? How is it noble to want only material possessions? How is it noble not to teach a victim mentality? How is it noble to incite class warfare? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 656642
Right. And I suppose you don't eat either? I'm not talking about sharing so that everyone has a Rolls Royce. I'm talking about the vulgarity of a world in which some have billions of dollars and 17,000 CHILDREN die of starvation every day.
All that freedom to choose whether to work or not that you are so self-satisfied about (typical of service-to-selfers) isn't a reality or even a possibility for billions of people. In fact, your freedom stems from the suffering of people in poor countries everywhere.
Wake up to the real world, fool--we're not talking about the American dream here, we're talking about the fucking third world! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
United States
11/19/2009 4:16 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Wake up to the real world, fool--we're not talking about the American dream here, we're talking about the fucking third world! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 677020
You know what? You fucking wake up.
It's the fucking third world because of the governments in those countries!
Remember no empire building? Remember no interference from the US? Remember for the US to stay the fuck out of other nation's problems? You got it buddy.
Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Those third world nations have been advised on how to help themselves. Ethiopia? When the FUCK are the people going to stop breeding themselves into poverty? When the FUCK are they going to work on building their infrastructure.
You wake the FUCK up to the realities of life buddy.
You can try to help people but when people don't want to help themselves you DON'T FUCKING do them a FUCKING bit of good enabling them to stay as FUCKING victims always look for others to help them.
What part of that did you NOT understand? You help people by teaching them to HELP themselves, not by throwing money at a problem.
Money has been thrown at this problem since the FUCKING 1950s when there were only MILLIONS of starving people...they just decided to let other people do for them instead of doing for themselves and kept popping out kids without a way to feed them. That is what is FUCKING irresponsible. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822440
United States
11/19/2009 4:23 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Trinity's position (and that of many other GLPers) is classic service-to-self rhetoric, attempting to hide their greed behind a facade of logic and reason. Capitalism is inherently flawed for the simple reason that the field is not level as all capitalists claim. People's birth circumstances, country, race, wealth, personal abilities, etc. all have massive effects on whether they have any realistic chance of accumulating wealth NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY WORK. But service-to-selfers always imply that ALL poor are lazy and deserve to be left to die. This argument has been around to justify greed in the world for centuries, if not millenia. It's a self-serving pile of BS. Service-to-selfers are the type that cry the loudest when suddenly bad luck strikes them and then they wonder why no one is lining up to help them out--well, the answer is because you destroyed any decency society had by furthering the aims of the one world corporate order we all now live in.
You don't get it.
You are still basing things on material things.
Guess what? I don't live in a new house, I don't drive a luxury car. I donate my TIME and what money I have.
I live the good life because of the love of my family, my husband and sons.
Why would I want to chase off and spend more time pursuing money? If that was my goal, I would set that as my goal.
My goal for happiness and definition of a good life is being free to choose if I want to pursue that goal. I do not look to others for handouts, except for my employer for providing me work and paying me a salary. If I don't like what I get paid, I have the FREEDOM to get another job, the FREEDOM to choose whether I want to be a success or failure on my own terms.
Re-think what you are saying, your statements are an appeal to the very greed you espouse to loathe. You envy others. You want to be like them, have their money...go for it. No, you want to FORCE them to share their work with you. How is that noble to FORCE? How is it noble to be envious? How is it noble to want only material possessions? How is it noble not to teach a victim mentality? How is it noble to incite class warfare?
Right. And I suppose you don't eat either? I'm not talking about sharing so that everyone has a Rolls Royce. I'm talking about the vulgarity of a world in which some have billions of dollars and 17,000 CHILDREN die of starvation every day.
All that freedom to choose whether to work or not that you are so self-satisfied about (typical of service-to-selfers) isn't a reality or even a possibility for billions of people. In fact, your freedom stems from the suffering of people in poor countries everywhere.
Wake up to the real world, fool--we're not talking about the American dream here, we're talking about the fucking third world! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 677020
What is your solution? Direct me to the page if you have already stated it.:0) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822440
United States
11/19/2009 4:27 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Wake up to the real world, fool--we're not talking about the American dream here, we're talking about the fucking third world!
You know what? You fucking wake up.
It's the fucking third world because of the governments in those countries!
Remember no empire building? Remember no interference from the US? Remember for the US to stay the fuck out of other nation's problems? You got it buddy.
Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Those third world nations have been advised on how to help themselves. Ethiopia? When the FUCK are the people going to stop breeding themselves into poverty? When the FUCK are they going to work on building their infrastructure.
You wake the FUCK up to the realities of life buddy.
You can try to help people but when people don't want to help themselves you DON'T FUCKING do them a FUCKING bit of good enabling them to stay as FUCKING victims always look for others to help them.
What part of that did you NOT understand? You help people by teaching them to HELP themselves, not by throwing money at a problem.
Money has been thrown at this problem since the FUCKING 1950s when there were only MILLIONS of starving people...they just decided to let other people do for them instead of doing for themselves and kept popping out kids without a way to feed them. That is what is FUCKING irresponsible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 656642
I hear you. These poor country's governments don't even want to help their own people. Donated food is left to rot at the port. The United States cannot save the world. Someday they might not be able to save themselves if they don't take care of themselves first. Then help the neighbors IF they want help. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 820119
United States
11/19/2009 5:17 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
If you have a hundred people of whom you are one and each person puts themself first and is out for themself and what they can get, then all you will ever have is competition, strife, violence and war.
The strong will oppress the weak. The rich will oppress the poor. The clever will oppress the not so clever and there will be continual struggle for survival, leading to crime, violence, war and eventually total annihilation. Armageddon. How can there NOT be?
On the other hand; as Jesus demonstrated when he gave his life voluntarily for the benefit of everyone else; if you take exactly the same hundred people of whom you are one and everybody, including you, now puts everyone else first, before their "Self", then each individual, including you, wins ninety-nine times, because each individual has ninety-nine other people putting them first.
However, it will not work unless every single person does it because one bad apple RUINS the whole barrel.
To explain even more clearly still, in terms that everyone should be able to understand, if they want to understand, one human family can amass an absolute fortune, under selfish, fraudulent, illegal laws; in the space of two hundred Earth years; and, in so doing, make millions of other people POOR and miserable.
Imagine what would happen IF they were NOT human and lived for ever (zillions of years). How many poor people, and wars, and how much havoc; strife and misery could they then create?
That is why you were sent here and are still here on this prison-planet because you are NOT really human and have never RE-learned those "Universal Principles" as you were COMMANDED to "on pain of death" and if you were released YOU would cause the very havoc that I have just told you about.
[link to jahtruth.net] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 664473
 Netherlands
11/19/2009 5:20 PM | | Re: Everyone Can't Live The Good Life.... | Quote |
Trinity is insane
trinity thinks that nationalism is sane lol
what is nationalism??? it but a sheep following out of date ideals and seperatism of the rest of humanity |
| AlreadyBugged
User ID: 820967
 Mexico
11/19/2009 5:24 PM
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The strong will oppress the weak. The rich will oppress the poor. The clever will oppress the not so clever and there will be continual struggle for survival, leading to crime, violence, war and eventually total annihilation. Armageddon. How can there NOT be? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820119
You forgot one other dynamic: The meek shall inherit the earth by organizing against their common oppressors. |
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