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Manassas John
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11/19/2009 9:30 AM
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I have visited the prime FAA control center near Vint Hill, Virgina. Everything is redundant, and sometimes quadruple. For example, they brought in power lines from two directions. They have four backup generators, plus banks of batteries. Something stinks about this story.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822236

United States
11/19/2009 9:35 AM

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What story?

Manassas John
User ID: 777736 (OP)

United States
11/19/2009 9:36 AM

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Remember the fireball the other night. Maybe they are trying to clear the skies, or reduce traffic.

Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2009 9:37 AM

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Link???

Anonymous Coward
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United States
11/19/2009 9:37 AM

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Obama on his way home let him get through before they bring the wrath on

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 566027

Netherlands
11/19/2009 9:38 AM

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[link to www.foxnews.com]

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 777736 (OP)

United States
11/19/2009 9:38 AM

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[link to www.gadling.com]

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 566027

Netherlands
11/19/2009 9:38 AM

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I dislike glitches.

Anonymous Coward
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Netherlands
11/19/2009 9:41 AM

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Sounds to me like a "dry-run" for something. Or perhaps, "it" has started. . .

An FAA computer malfunction involving access to flight plans is causing nationwide flight cancellations and delays Thursday.

The Federal Aviation Administration's computer systems are having trouble retrieving flight plans and in some cases they must be inputted by hand, a spokeswoman said.

"We are having a problem processing flight plan information," the FAA's Kathleen Bergen explained in a prepared statement. "We are processing flight plans manually and expect some delays."

For the FAA's flight tracker, click here.

Bergen said she doesn't know how many flights are affected or when the matter will be resolved, but the cause is being investigated.

The technical difficulties aren't affecting air traffic control's systems, she said.

Controllers "have radio coverage and communications with planes," according to Bergen.

AirTran Airways says there's no danger to flights in the air, and flights are still taking off and landing.

"Everything is safe in the air," said AirTran spokesman Christopher White.

The problems were first reported Thursday morning out of the world's busiest airport, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport — which has been particularly affected by the glitch.

One Delta passenger in Atlanta reported hearing a gate agent's announcement that the computer troubles weren't letting pilots access flight plans and were preventing any planes from taking off, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

AirTran had canceled 22 flights and dozens more flights were delayed as of 8 a.m. EST. Delta Air Lines also has been affected.

Passengers should check the status of their flights online before going to airports

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 799924

United States
11/19/2009 9:46 AM

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op, keep digging

Anonymous Coward
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United States
11/19/2009 9:47 AM

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Each facility has it's own computer systems but the interface between them sometimes goes down. Happens on occasion and it's a pain in the ass when it does.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822223

United States
11/19/2009 9:48 AM

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[link to news.yahoo.com]

FAA glitch causes widespread delays
By HARRY R. WEBER, AP Airlines Writer Harry R. Weber, Ap Airlines Writer

ATLANTA – A problem with the FAA system that collects airlines' flight plans caused widespread flight cancellations and delays nationwide Thursday. It was the second time in 15 months that a glitch in the flight plan system caused delays.
FAA spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said she doesn't know how many flights are being affected or when the problem will be resolved.
Another FAA spokesperson, Paul Takemoto, said the problem started between 5:15 a.m. and 5:30 a.m. EST. The outage is affecting mostly flight plans but also traffic management, such as ground stops and ground delays, he said.
Regarding flight plans, airplane dispatchers are now sending plans to controllers and controllers in turn are entering them into computers manually, he said.
"It's slowing everything down. We don't know yet what the impact on delays will be," Takemoto said.
An AirTran Airways spokesman said there's no danger to flights in the air, and flights are still taking off and landing.
However, spokesman Christopher White said flight plans are having to be loaded manually because of a malfunction with the automated system.
"Everything is safe in the air," White said.
Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, the world's busiest airport, has been particularly affected.
AirTran had canceled 22 flights and dozens more flights were delayed as of 8 a.m. EST. Delta Air Lines also has been affected.
The FAA said in a statement that it is having a problem processing flight plan information.
"We are investigating the cause of the problem," the agency said. "We are processing flight plans manually and expect some delays. We have radar coverage and communications with planes."
Passengers are being asked to check the status of their flights online before going to airports.
Only minor delays were being reported at metropolitan New York City area airports, according to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.
Flight plans are collected by the FAA for traffic nationwide at two centers — one in the Salt Lake City area and the other in the Atlanta area, Bergen said. She did not know which center was affected Thursday.
In August 2008, a software malfunction delayed hundreds of flights around the country.
In that episode, the Northeast was hardest hit by the delays because of a glitch at the Hampton, Ga., facility that processes flight plans for the eastern half of the U.S.
The FAA said at that time the source of the computer software malfunction was a "packet switch" that "failed due to a database mismatch."

Jimmy2times
User ID: 636253

United States
11/19/2009 9:51 AM

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Each facility has it's own computer systems but the interface between them sometimes goes down. Happens on occasion and it's a pain in the ass when it does. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 737731 This is what happens when "Gary" from India is messing with the routers because it's cheaper. Best Shore out sourcing bullshit....

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 566027

Netherlands
11/19/2009 9:52 AM

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[link to www.marketwatch.com] is also down (as was the stock market too!) I smell a rat!

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822223

United States
11/19/2009 9:54 AM

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there is something else going on here and they aren't reporting it as such.... [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822276

United States
11/19/2009 10:36 AM

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some sort of energy pulse poss coupled with meteor damage

The Girl
User ID: 802993

United States
11/19/2009 10:57 AM

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Oooooh - an energy pulse? with what happened in Utah yesterday - its REALLY getting interesting!

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778753

United States
11/19/2009 11:01 AM

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there is something else going on here and they aren't reporting it as such.... [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822223 Strange air in VA today.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 719377

United States
11/19/2009 11:03 AM

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everything was restored about 9am EST. will take awhile for air traffic to catch up.

Manassas John
User ID: 777736 (OP)

United States
11/19/2009 2:08 PM

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I was away for three hours sorting food donations for SERVE. Like Fort Hood, I don't think we will ever know the truth about this.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811871

Canada
11/19/2009 2:15 PM

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VA Drills ? yikes again .

Anonymous Coward
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United States
11/19/2009 2:34 PM

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