Obammy is a quitter! I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot
DaJavoo Forum Barkeep User ID: 818167 United States 11/20/2009 12:20 PM
Dissapointing Scrump. I didn't have you figured as a Red Vs Blue player.
Look kids, Obama is a wall street puppet placed to allow the money vampires to continue their suckling at our collective jugulars, that's obvious enough.
But Palin???
She is simply NOT anywhere near intelligent or articulate enough to do the job of president.
Fuck it, you must realise she was brought in simply to ensure an Obama victory.
Don't make me post the interviews which demonstrate her lack of basic knowledge on economics, politics and foreign policy, you know it's true.
Nobody ever seems to cite her policy on any issues, tell me... as a member of the opposition party what is Palins policy on Iran, Israel, AfPak?
Come on guys, surely there are members of the Republican part better deserving of your support??
Palin would make an ok talk show host.... but PRESIDENT???
Scrump I have no doubt that YOU would be more qualified for the job than Sarah "what's the Bush Doctrine?" Palin.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822527
Look shill,
NO presidential politician knows everything about everything; they can't and they don't need to. They need the WISDOM to hire the right people and most importantly, to have the COURAGE to do the right thing.
Not articulate enough?
Then WHY pray tell me, are all of mainstream media, and mainstream Republicans so afraid of her?
Sara Palin was pulled up on short notice and thrust into the big leagues and immediately won over the folks.
Sara would have won the election for McCain if he had just sit down an shut up. McCain is an ass; he would not.
I am not voting for another liberal.
YOU can vote for another Bush, another McCain, another Romney, another Huckabee... I am not... and I believe a lot of other Conservatives will not.
What is the worst that could happen if we vote 3rd party?
We might get a closet Muslim Racist Marxist for President?
We might get a shill for the banks who will steal away the prosperity of our great grandchildren within 6 months in office?
We might get a homosexual pedophile agenda pushing president that was mentored by the Weather Underground during his college years?
LOOK! This is what we got for voting for another liberal Republican.
The Dims were right about that you know... McCain is just another Bush.... another libnut masquerading as a Republican.
Ron Paul is more qualified to be president, but Ron Paul does not have the star quality that Sara Palin has. Beginning in 1960 with the televised presidential debates, Americans became stargazers. Not saying that it should be this way... just sayin' .... this is the way it is.
NOT ARTICULATE ENOUGH?????
Sinanju2 User ID: 811864 United States 11/20/2009 12:27 PM
>>Yep! But I like to hear the liberals show their hypocrisy! I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot
Wasilla-in-my-rear-view-mirror User ID: 787970 United States 11/20/2009 2:12 PM
Now, it appears anytime anyone criticizes Sarah (like YOU), they're labeled an Obama-lover. NOT TRUE.
Yes, Sarah kicked some serious ass while governor. But Alaskans are not 'filthy rich' because of her actions. In fact, their energy bills have skyrocketed - even before her departure.
Unemployment in the private sector (i.e. construction) is in the ionosphere. If it wasn't for the FACT that 65% of the workforce is employed with the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, most people would be starving. In fact, well over 75,000 Alaskans ARE on food stamps. Out of a population of approximately 650,000.
Most people that I know in Anchorage, Wasilla and Palmer that are either self-employed or employed in the private sector are scraping by - and barely at that. Living in a tent in subzero temperatures is NOT an option. One of them is a relative who is running for governor - and ran against Sarah in 2006. Knows her quite well.
The latest dividend check did NOT include the additional $1200 'energy' bonus when Sarah was in office. A political ploy ya think?
And yes, the 'Natives' have been ignored for the most part. Todd is part native, mostly white BTW. Probably married him for his looks, who knows.
For the most part, one can't help but LIKE Sarah with her bubbly personality and let's kick some ass attitude. Oh yeah - so different. But as president? I don't think so.
She's shouldn't have quit as govenor in spite of all those ethics suits filed against her. Her book shows she's a whiner - oh, poor Sarah - so picked on. How about her views on Iraq/Afghanistan/NAFTA/GATT/Cap & Trade/Health Care - the list is endless - instead of the bullshit about McCain aides treating her with indifference.
Can you imagine her quitting the presidency because Putin called her out on the carpet? Holy shit. And to deal with the likes of some very powerful, dark entities behind the scenes - she wouldn't last a month.
Palin should have remained as govenor - but alas, the international attention went to her head and now she's on the campaign trail again (though not 'officially' - yet).
Even Alaskans admit the whole Sarah Show is getting quite embarrassing. Nobody likes a quitter - especially Alaskans. Too bad, too, as Sarah, at first, was a true maverick and it was very refreshing.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 804868 United States 11/20/2009 2:20 PM
ROFL I love how some people call anybody a shill because they don't like Palin, despite the fact that the person that doesn't like Palin is a republican.
I guess the latest definition of "shill" is simply anybody who doesn't like Palin. I guess that makes the McCain staff that had issues with her shills too. No way could it have been Sarah Palin's fault, it was all those nasty shills working for McCain that caused the trouble! LOL
Sinanju2 User ID: 811864 United States 11/20/2009 2:22 PM
ROFL I love how some people call anybody a shill because they don't like Palin, despite the fact that the person that doesn't like Palin is a republican.
I guess the latest definition of "shill" is simply anybody who doesn't like Palin. I guess that makes the McCain staff that had issues with her shills too. No way could it have been Sarah Palin's fault, it was all those nasty shills working for McCain that caused the trouble! LOL
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 804868
>>McCain is a 'republican' too.... I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot
Anonymous Coward User ID: 815854 United States 11/20/2009 2:27 PM
Dissapointing Scrump. I didn't have you figured as a Red Vs Blue player.
Look kids, Obama is a wall street puppet placed to allow the money vampires to continue their suckling at our collective jugulars, that's obvious enough.
But Palin???
She is simply NOT anywhere near intelligent or articulate enough to do the job of president.
Fuck it, you must realise she was brought in simply to ensure an Obama victory.
Don't make me post the interviews which demonstrate her lack of basic knowledge on economics, politics and foreign policy, you know it's true.
Nobody ever seems to cite her policy on any issues, tell me... as a member of the opposition party what is Palins policy on Iran, Israel, AfPak?
Come on guys, surely there are members of the Republican part better deserving of your support??
Palin would make an ok talk show host.... but PRESIDENT???
Scrump I have no doubt that YOU would be more qualified for the job than Sarah "what's the Bush Doctrine?" Palin.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822527
I'm not Republican, nor am I a Democrat.
There is absolutely NO difference between the two these days.
I posted this because regardless of whether or not Palin is fit to be PRESIDENT, I get sick of hearing the Obots parrot what they've been told to think on the MSN.
If nothing else, Palin represents more real and traditional AMERICAN views & values than ANY politician out there, with the exception of Ron Paul. I am a Christian.
Christian does not equal doormat or pushover.
SickOfItAll
ScrumpTheTexan User ID: 823234 United States 11/20/2009 2:31 PM
ROFL I love how some people call anybody a shill because they don't like Palin, despite the fact that the person that doesn't like Palin is a republican.
I guess the latest definition of "shill" is simply anybody who doesn't like Palin. I guess that makes the McCain staff that had issues with her shills too. No way could it have been Sarah Palin's fault, it was all those nasty shills working for McCain that caused the trouble! LOL
>>McCain is a 'republican' too....
Quoting: Sinanju2
McCain, despite his service to the Country, is just as culpable as the rest of the traitors for bringing our Nation to it's knees.
I made NO difference WHO was "running against" ObaMao... he was chosen & groomed to be the one who brought it all home for the NWO.
No-One could beat him, because there was no actual contest. I am a Christian.
Christian does not equal doormat or pushover.
SickOfItAll
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6063 United States 11/20/2009 2:32 PM
This is bullshit. As an Alaskan conservative she was better than frank but you forgot a few things.
She increased the budget
She created new spending programs on social issues that won't help shit.
And this is the one that she lost all my support on, under her admin the government now databases all prescription drug purchases, and what doctor your seeing. This complete abuse of privacy.
She also quit to serve her own interests and stopped being a governor for the last 6 months she was around.
If your a neocon who's really is a liberal just a different kind, she's great, but if you're a conservative you could never vote for her.
ScrumpTheTexan User ID: 823234 United States 11/20/2009 2:32 PM
2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES."
Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich.
Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.
ROFL, if a right-winger demands and gets more money from corporations ===>
SHE'S A FUCKING HERO, JEEBUS BLESS HER HEART!
if a Dem wants to raise corporate taxes ====>
CuntTheTexan + OxyLimbaugh + SteveDouchy + GlennLimpDick +
all the rest of your LIBERTARDIAN asswipes shout
splitting profits!?!?! taking profits from a holy corporation and giving them to taxpayers?!??
C-O-M-M-U-N-I-S-M !!!!!
Come on Alaskans, you're a bunch of rugged libertarian individualists, yet each one one of you gets a fat check from the government every year from its socialist/communist scheme to steal the oil companies' rightful money. TSK TSK TSK
Why does the state hold land with oil underneath??
It should be sold to the highest bidder asap
like everything else in Amerika
Ron Paul should crucify every one of you
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777448
I think hypocrisy is in their genes. Besides, she has all the qualifications they are looking for, like Reagan and Bush II, she's not very bright, and like them both she seems like "one of them." (I.e., not very bright. see above.)
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6063 United States 11/20/2009 2:39 PM
If sarah quit because she got elected to another office then it would be the same. Or unless your so biased you can't see anything.
BTW, I hate Obama, and Sarah.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6063
>>Did Sarah promise to not quit her position to try to achieve a higher one? I don't do book reports, I don't sort the wheat from the chaff but I will discuss the topic of your ignorance if I'm asked. -MC Frontalot
Anonymous Coward User ID: 822995 Ireland 11/20/2009 3:07 PM
If you've read this far... ...............................................
First Lady Michelle Obama's Servant List and Pay Scale.
First Lady Requires More Than Twenty Attendants
1. $172,2000 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
2. $140,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C . (Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)
3. $113,000 - Rogers, Desiree G (Special Assistant to the President and White House Social Secretary)
4. $102,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Special Assistant to the President and Director of Communications for the First Lady)
5. $100,000 - Winter, Melissa E. (Special Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
6. $90,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
7. $84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to the First Lady)
8. $75,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First Lady)
9. $70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects for the First Lady)
10. $65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
11. $64,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
12. $62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator For The First Lady)
13. $60,000 - Fitts, Alan O. (Deputy Dir ector of Advance and Trip Director for the First Lady)
14. $57,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)
15. $52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary To The First Lady)
16. $50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special=2 0Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide To The First Lady)
17. $45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence For The First Lady)
18. $43,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)
19. $40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
20. $36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)
21. $35,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
22. $35,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First Lady)
There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social life.
One wonders why she needs so much help, at taxpayer expense, when even Hillary only had three; Jackie Kennedy one; Laura Bush one; and prior to Mamie Eisenhower social help came from the President's own pocket.
Note: This does not include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and "First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom traveled aboard Air Force One to Europe.
FRIENDS.....THESE SALARIES ADD UP TO SIX MILLION, THREE HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE 4 YEARS OF OFFICE?????
There seems to be something wrong here.............
Oh YEAH.
This is OBSCENE
ScrumpTheTexan User ID: 823234 United States 11/20/2009 3:58 PM
One simply cannot talk about leaders who are like Ronald Reagan without bringing up Sarah Palin. The comparisons are easy to make. Like Reagan, Sarah Palin is a strong leader with moral clarity.
Sarah has shown this clarity throughout her career. From battling her mentor on the Wasilla city council over his attempt to use his position to set up a monopoly for his company, to her legendary battle with Frank Murkowski’s "Corrupt Bastards Club."
For those that don’t know the story, Sarah had been appointed as Chairman of the powerful Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, the agency that regulates oil and natural gas in Alaska. Sarah had been appointed by Governor Murkowski after she had lost her bid for Lt Governor. She was charged with overseeing ethics in her position.
Before long, Sarah realized she had a really corrupt shop. After being told to back off by her boss, the Governor, Sarah stepped down, "quit" as they say. Had to be a really tough decision. This was a high paying gig, six figures, and a powerful position from which to launch herself to even more powerful positions. After all, Sarah’s star was on the rise!
After Sarah "quit" she made it her project to go after the bad actors. As a result, she went after pretty much the entire Republican party leadership, a profile in courage in itself, and a sure fire case of political suicide. In the end, some went to prison, some paid fines, others were forced to resign. Then she ran and won the governorship.
Once in office, she was a strong leader. She was able to bring about sweeping changes and one by one fulfilled her campaign promises.
Claude Sandroff over at the American Thinker talks about the virtue of Sarah Palin. We all know the story of her post election experiences. Before Sarah ran for Vice President, the Republican party wasn’t exactly pleased with her, still smarting from the reforms she brought in, and the folks she took down, but she had a fairly cordial relationship with the Alaskan democrats in the legislature.
Then came the campaign. It has been well documented that Barack Obama brought Chicago style politics to Alaska through his campaign chief-of-staff, Pete Rouse, and Rouse’s longtime friendship with Alaska State Senator, Kim Elton. Their attempt to derail Sarah with the phony "Troopergate" witch hunt is also well documented
After Sarah lost her in her effort to be Vice President, no one would have thought the Alaska Mafia would have remained so dedicated to the Chicago masters, but how many times has a losing vice presidential candidate become even more popular and sought after!
The word came out from on high to keep the pressure on, and the Mafia started recruiting folks to file phony ethics complaints against her. There was already one misguided woman, Andree McLeod, who made a career out of filing outrageous complaints. But the rest were all manufactured to damage Sarah, a favorite democrat/communist tactic, right out of Saul Alinsky’s "Rules."
This is where Sarah’s strength, courage, and moral clarity came into play. It would have been very simple to sit still and fight this stuff. I mean these charges were all nonsense, and all thrown out. But the more she resisted, the more the Mafia filed, and at a quicker pace. And these leaches on society had not cost Sarah personally, they had also effectively stopped her government from functioning, and cost the taxpayers almost $2 million processing this mess. And if the pace of the complaints stayed the same for the rest of her term, these thieves were on track to cost the Alaska taxpayers as much as $10 million.
A lot of politicians would have stayed. They would have clung to power at all cost. Not Sarah Palin. As Sandroff puts it, this was:
"The very essence of virtue. It was Sir Thomas More resigning as Lord Chancellor and George Washington returning to Mount Vernon. It showed how rare virtue has become in our politics. It shows why we adore Sarah Palin and why we need her. And it explains why, even without office, she has become the most important political figure in America."
One can only imagine the struggle Sarah had with this, or maybe, it wasn’t a real struggle at all. Earlier in the year, just before a trip to visit her troops in Kosovo, Sarah Palin introduced Michael Reagan, the son of Ronald Reagan, at an event in Anchorage. While talking about how bad her critics wanted her to shut up and go away, she said this:
"They want me to sit down and shut up. But I won’t sit down, and I won’t shut up. Politically speaking, if I die, I die, but I will know I have spoken up! Stand up, speak up, be bold! Forget political correctness!"
History shows that Sarah has not sat down, and is not shutting up! Many, at the time, could not understand what Sarah was doing when she "quit." These people simply didn’t understand her unwinnable situation. These are the types who would have "fought to the end" costing their constituents more tax dollars, and damaging their state.
This was a stroke of genius though, and one I believe Ronald Reagan would have understood. Sarah, a star basketball player, was simply passing the ball off to someone, Sean Parnell, who could continue on with her policies, and not be hassled.
"He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces. He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared."
Sun Tzu, the Art Of War
Now that is a nice story, as far as it goes. A compelling one in fact. But it is not only the reason why Sarah Palin is "like Ronald Reagan"
No one can argue she is powerful. Who in the world, but Sarah Palin can change the entire national debate with a few paragraphs posted on a networking website?
Sarah Palin, not only had the moral clarity to understand exactly what Obamacare is, she was also able to distill it all down to a level of basic understanding. Her "death panels" said it all. And it wasn’t just the fact Sarah understood that Obamacare would most certainly lead to the rationing of care, she had the courage to say it the way she said it. She knew full well the wrath of both political parties, as well as the fringe media, Obama’s media, would come at her with full force. Sarah called Obamacare "downright evil."
We all know Ronald Reagan had moral clarity regarding the Soviet Union. He called them an "evil empire." His critics, in both parties, lost it every time he did this, but it didn’t stop him from saying it.
Before Reagan’s famous "tear down that wall" comment in his speech in Berlin, his advisers were telling him "no way" and to steer clear of that sort of thing. They had to be resuscitated after he said it! But Reagan knew in his heart it needed to be said.
Reagan lived to see the Berlin wall come down, and see millions of East Germans become free.
Before Sarah took up the fight, critics of Obamacare might as well have been talking to their houseplants. They were trying to nuance things. Trying to be "statesmen," at least in their minds.
Sarah looked at this mess, saw great evil. She saw a situation, that if continued, would lead America to certain disaster, and cause all Americans to lose precious liberties and freedoms. It’s that ability to not only recognize evil, wherever you see it, but to also have the courage to do something about it.
While the other so-called leaders in the Republican party were saying "slow down" Sarah wrote, "Not no, but HELL no!"
Because of Sarah Palin, and her inspiration to others, Obamacare is in shambles. And that gives us another "like Ronald Reagan" trait. Sarah Palin inspires people.
Sarah has been inspiring people for a long time, but her speech at the 2008 Republican National Convention was huge. Expectations were high, and she hit a home run. As Michael Reagan wrote days later in a column titled "Welcome Back Dad":
"I've been trying to convince my fellow conservatives that they have been wasting their time in a fruitless quest for a new Ronald Reagan to emerge and lead our party and our nation. I insisted that we'd never see his like again because he was one of a kind.
I was wrong!
Wednesday night I watched the Republican National Convention on television and there, before my very eyes, I saw my Dad reborn; only this time he's a she.
And what a she!
In one blockbuster of a speech, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin resurrected my Dad's indomitable spirit and sent it soaring above the convention center, shooting shock waves through the cynical media's assigned spaces and electrifying the huge audience with the kind of inspiring rhetoric we haven't heard since my Dad left the scene."
After Ronald Reagan lost his presidential primary bid to Gerald Ford in 1976, most considered him washed up, a has been. Critics, in both parties called him stupid, lazy, naive, inexperienced, even though he had been Governor of California! He was a B-Movie actor. Some even said Reagan was dangerous!
Reagan was from tiny Tampico, Illinois. He went to the "wrong" school, Eureka College. And Reagan was a small town, country boy at heart, his whole life.
The democrats hated Reagan with a passion, and so did the blue blood, country club elite, Rockefeller Republicans. The American people loved Reagan though, and obviously still do. God bless Ronald Reagan, and may his spirit always remain the spirit that inspires us all.
I've lost a lot of respect for you scrump. You're no better than an Obama supporter to fall for Palin. Whoever put her photo next to Reagan is about right. Say one thing, and be crooked as hell behind doors. She'd be just as bad as Obama if not worse.
You and PACNWguy are neocons. You are liberals for big government thru security against brown people. Your being played, and I'm sad to see it. I guess GLP is full of sheep too, just a different kind.
Dr. Anomaly User ID: 810522 United States 11/20/2009 8:42 PM
Why havent the masses figured out the game yet. Why are most still fixated on the political figureheads put forth to fix your problems for you, YOU are the one that has to make the changes necessary, forget about the charade put out to take you on the merry go round!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 743646 United States 11/20/2009 8:54 PM
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