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White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822142
 United States
11/20/2009 3:52 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
"You have the privilege of having sex, you must be responsible for the consequences"
lol
yeah, that'll stop instinct and human nature. lol
read freud, or anyone for that matter. |
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Bluebird 
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 3:53 PM
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"their 'choice' their bill'
not mine "
statistics show crime goes up when abortion goes down
fine, let everyone that does not want a child have it
then they can come and rob, rape and kill you and yours. and you can spend more money on police
idiot Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
No, statistics do NOT say that but the opposite. Fewer abortions in the last years with lower crime rates.
Making life cheap is never a good idea.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823168
United States
11/20/2009 3:55 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
religous groups complaining about a gov? lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
Someone needs to complain about this barbarous act. You should be strapped down and be forced to view a movie clip showing how a doctor performs an abortion. You will surely walk away with a new attitude toward abortion. |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 3:55 PM
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"You have the privilege of having sex, you must be responsible for the consequences"
lol
yeah, that'll stop instinct and human nature. lol
read freud, or anyone for that matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
So why should I pay for your "instinct and human nature"?
Not my responsbility. Don't get pregnant if you don't want a child.
It works the same way for all of us.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 788421
United States
11/20/2009 3:59 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
"their 'choice' their bill'
not mine "
statistics show crime goes up when abortion goes down
fine, let everyone that does not want a child have it
then they can come and rob, rape and kill you and yours. and you can spend more money on police
idiot Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
hogwash |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 3:59 PM
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lol
god forbid the gov helps women that do not want a brat
much better to support toothless religious types that scream at women and think they are "moral" and tell people what to do with their bodies. lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
How does the govt help these toothless religious types?
I have very nice teeth but did not know there were any programs or federal assistance for pro-Life groups.
Just don't send me the bill for your own stupidity if you get pregnant and don't want to be. I don't owe anybody for that. If it's your body, why are you expecting me to pay for what you do with it?
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823168
United States
11/20/2009 4:00 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
"You have the privilege of having sex, you must be responsible for the consequences"
lol
yeah, that'll stop instinct and human nature. lol
read freud, or anyone for that matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
You're not an animal that lives by "instinct" alone. Being human, you also have the gift of reason. This is what separates us from the animal world.
Your reasoning is weak, at best, or you are playing childish games on this board! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823288
United States
11/20/2009 4:02 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
Abortion should be legal for Democrats.
(No matter how old they are)
You need to get a life and stop worrying about Democrats and Republicans. Unless commenting about them is your job. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 788421
United States
11/20/2009 4:02 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
lol
god forbid the gov helps women that do not want a brat
much better to support toothless religious types that scream at women and think they are "moral" and tell people what to do with their bodies. lol
How does the govt help these toothless religious types?
I have very nice teeth but did not know there were any programs or federal assistance for pro-Life groups.
Just don't send me the bill for your own stupidity if you get pregnant and don't want to be. I don't owe anybody for that. If it's your body, why are you expecting me to pay for what you do with it? Quoting: Bluebird |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754717
United States
11/20/2009 4:05 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
Doesn't all of Christianity condemn the taking of innocent life?
So why is it always just the Catholic Church that stands up against abortion?
And yet we are daily reviled on this very forum.
Where are the rest of the Christians when it comes to preventing the 5,000 murdered daily in this country?
The silence is deafening. Quoting: Bluebird
Bluebird, I normally love your posts.
But it's time to stop letting religious idiots un the Republican agenda and steer the party into idiocy year after year.
They're idiots and assholes if they think they can prevent people from abortion coverage their own private money pays for.
And fuck anyone on the religious right who wants to use government to force their social retardation onto me and my wallet.
This incident only reminds me what's very wrong about the republican party and what will continue to be wrong so long as priests and nuns dictate public policy via their tools in the Republican ranks. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822142
United States
11/20/2009 4:06 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
"The Commission cited research purporting that the children of women denied an abortion “turned out to have been registered more often with psychiatric services, engaged in more antisocial and criminal behavior, and have been more dependent on public assistance.” A study by Hans Forssman and Inga Thuwe was cited by the Rockefeller Commission and is probably the first serious empirical research on this topic. They studied the children of 188 women who were denied abortions from 1939 to 1941 at the hospital in Gothenburg, Sweden. They compared these “unwanted” children to another group – the next children born after each of the unwanted children at the hospital. The "unwanted" children were more likely to grow up in adverse conditions, such as having divorced parents or being raised in foster homes and were more likely to become delinquents and engaged in crime"
yep- not your problem. lol
i mean 15 year old pregnant girls need to know responisbility and stuff and not have sex. lol
idiots. the world is as it is- we try to make it better-
what your suggesting is that it is better to have unwanted children. bad idea.
idiots |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 4:08 PM
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Doesn't all of Christianity condemn the taking of innocent life?
So why is it always just the Catholic Church that stands up against abortion?
And yet we are daily reviled on this very forum.
Where are the rest of the Christians when it comes to preventing the 5,000 murdered daily in this country?
The silence is deafening.
Bluebird, I normally love your posts.
But it's time to stop letting religious idiots un the Republican agenda and steer the party into idiocy year after year.
They're idiots and assholes if they think they can prevent people from abortion coverage their own private money pays for.
And fuck anyone on the religious right who wants to use government to force their social retardation onto me and my wallet.
This incident only reminds me what's very wrong about the republican party and what will continue to be wrong so long as priests and nuns dictate public policy via their tools in the Republican ranks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754717
The issue is FEDERAL FUNDING for abortions. No one has said one word about what is paid for with private funds.
And while I do oppose abortions in general, that is not what this thread is about but rather making the rest of us PAY for the abortions of others.
NO ONE has the right to force me to do this.
Last Edited by Bluebird on 11/20/2009 at 5:46 PM
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823168
United States
11/20/2009 4:11 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
"The Commission cited research purporting that the children of women denied an abortion “turned out to have been registered more often with psychiatric services, engaged in more antisocial and criminal behavior, and have been more dependent on public assistance.” A study by Hans Forssman and Inga Thuwe was cited by the Rockefeller Commission and is probably the first serious empirical research on this topic. They studied the children of 188 women who were denied abortions from 1939 to 1941 at the hospital in Gothenburg, Sweden. They compared these “unwanted” children to another group – the next children born after each of the unwanted children at the hospital. The "unwanted" children were more likely to grow up in adverse conditions, such as having divorced parents or being raised in foster homes and were more likely to become delinquents and engaged in crime"
yep- not your problem. lol
i mean 15 year old pregnant girls need to know responisbility and stuff and not have sex. lol
idiots. the world is as it is- we try to make it better-
what your suggesting is that it is better to have unwanted children. bad idea.
idiots Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
Not always the case...take Hussein Obama as a poster boy. |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 4:12 PM
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"The Commission cited research purporting that the children of women denied an abortion “turned out to have been registered more often with psychiatric services, engaged in more antisocial and criminal behavior, and have been more dependent on public assistance.” A study by Hans Forssman and Inga Thuwe was cited by the Rockefeller Commission and is probably the first serious empirical research on this topic. They studied the children of 188 women who were denied abortions from 1939 to 1941 at the hospital in Gothenburg, Sweden. They compared these “unwanted” children to another group – the next children born after each of the unwanted children at the hospital. The "unwanted" children were more likely to grow up in adverse conditions, such as having divorced parents or being raised in foster homes and were more likely to become delinquents and engaged in crime"
yep- not your problem. lol
i mean 15 year old pregnant girls need to know responisbility and stuff and not have sex. lol
idiots. the world is as it is- we try to make it better-
what your suggesting is that it is better to have unwanted children. bad idea.
idiots Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
Gee, I wonder how the rest of us ever managed to not have a bunch of unwaanted children at age 15?
How does anyone manage to ever make it to sixteen for example without being pregnant? I mean with all that instinct and all.
And a society that says it is OK to kill is what teaches violence to the young.
Just don't even think about sending me the bill for what YOU do.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822142
United States
11/20/2009 4:15 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
lol
ok miss morally superior, all pregnant teenagers should be just like you, a heartless bitch with the spirituality of a cow. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754717
United States
11/20/2009 4:17 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
No it's not federal funds. There's already a law that prevents anyone using federal funds for abortion. Don't you know that?
This is to prevent anyone from buying with their own private money insurance that has abortion coverage.
Do some research.
Like I said, I'm normally a big fan, but you're wrong on this one.
Doesn't all of Christianity condemn the taking of innocent life?
So why is it always just the Catholic Church that stands up against abortion?
And yet we are daily reviled on this very forum.
Where are the rest of the Christians when it comes to preventing the 5,000 murdered daily in this country?
The silence is deafening.
Bluebird, I normally love your posts.
But it's time to stop letting religious idiots un the Republican agenda and steer the party into idiocy year after year.
They're idiots and assholes if they think they can prevent people from abortion coverage their own private money pays for.
And fuck anyone on the religious right who wants to use government to force their social retardation onto me and my wallet.
This incident only reminds me what's very wrong about the republican party and what will continue to be wrong so long as priests and nuns dictate public policy via their tools in the Republican ranks.
The issue is FEDEAL FUNDING for abortions. No one has said one word about what is paid for with private funds.
And while I do oppose abortions in general, that is not what this thread is about but rather making the rest of us PAY for the abortions of others.
NO ONE has the right to force me to do this. Quoting: Bluebird |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 4:24 PM
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No it's not federal funds. There's already a law that prevents anyone using federal funds for abortion. Don't you know that?
This is to prevent anyone from buying with their own private money insurance that has abortion coverage.
Do some research.
Like I said, I'm normally a big fan, but you're wrong on this one.
Doesn't all of Christianity condemn the taking of innocent life?
So why is it always just the Catholic Church that stands up against abortion?
And yet we are daily reviled on this very forum.
Where are the rest of the Christians when it comes to preventing the 5,000 murdered daily in this country?
The silence is deafening.
Bluebird, I normally love your posts.
But it's time to stop letting religious idiots un the Republican agenda and steer the party into idiocy year after year.
They're idiots and assholes if they think they can prevent people from abortion coverage their own private money pays for.
And fuck anyone on the religious right who wants to use government to force their social retardation onto me and my wallet.
This incident only reminds me what's very wrong about the republican party and what will continue to be wrong so long as priests and nuns dictate public policy via their tools in the Republican ranks.
The issue is FEDEAL FUNDING for abortions. No one has said one word about what is paid for with private funds.
And while I do oppose abortions in general, that is not what this thread is about but rather making the rest of us PAY for the abortions of others.
NO ONE has the right to force me to do this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754717
How can I possibly be wrong when I say I am very opposed to paying for ABORTIONS for anybody?
What you do is your own business, just don't expect ME to pay for it.
YOU don't have the right to FORCE ME to pay for YOUR choices in life.
Feel free to negotiate for NON-Taxfunded abortions or whatever it is you want but don't try to make me a participant in it.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 4:27 PM
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lol
ok miss morally superior, all pregnant teenagers should be just like you, a heartless bitch with the spirituality of a cow. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
Right, it's real spiritual to kill an innocent infant sleeping in its mother's womb.
But what part of "I ain't paying for it" don't you understand?
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. |
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Bluebird
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 4:36 PM
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What does forcing me to pay for killing your unwanted baby have to do with heathcare?
If you decide you want to hire a contract killer and off your Uncle Mo, are you going to expect me to help you pay for that, too?
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822142
United States
11/20/2009 4:39 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
you do that miss morally suprior.
you pay for soldiers to kill people
you pay for police to tazer old ladies
you pay for the process to allow aids patients emigratioin rights
you pay for feeding foreign children
but god forbid you pay for a distraught young woman. |
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Aquarius 7
User ID: 821574
United States
11/20/2009 4:42 PM
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Doesn't all of Christianity condemn the taking of innocent life?
So why is it always just the Catholic Church that stands up against abortion? ...
Where are the rest of the Christians when it comes to preventing the 5,000 murdered daily in this country? ... Quoting: Bluebird
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Very good questions.
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“Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee: because he trusts in Thee.” ~ Isaiah 26:3 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 811938
 Sweden
11/20/2009 4:47 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
Doesn't all of Christianity condemn the taking of innocent life?
So why is it always just the Catholic Church that stands up against abortion?
And yet we are daily reviled on this very forum.
Where are the rest of the Christians when it comes to preventing the 5,000 murdered daily in this country?
The silence is deafening. Quoting: Bluebird
here...? Well, some at least...
Unprecedented coalition of religious leaders call Americans
to stand for sanctity of life, marriage, and religious freedom
Washington D.C., Nov 20, 2009 / 06:21 am (CNA).
- An unprecedented coalition of prominent Christian clergy, ministry leaders, and scholars has crafted a 4,700-word declaration addressing the sanctity of life, traditional marriage, and religious liberty. The declaration issues “a clarion call” to Christians to adhere to their convictions and informs civil authorities that the signers will not “under any circumstance” abandon their Christian consciences.
The statement, called “the Manhattan Declaration,” has been signed by more than 125 Catholic, Evangelical Christian, and Orthodox leaders, and will be made fully public at a noon press conference in the National Press Club in Washington DC on Friday.
“We are Christians who have joined together across historic lines of ecclesial differences to affirm our right—and, more importantly, to embrace our obligation—to speak and act in defense of these truths. We pledge to each other, and to our fellow believers, that no power on earth, be it cultural or political, will intimidate us into silence or acquiescence,” the statement says.
“We recognize the duty to comply with laws whether we happen to like them or not, unless the laws are gravely unjust or require those subject to them to do something unjust or otherwise immoral,” the signatories explain.
But they also made clear that “we will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriage or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family.”
The Manhattan Declaration is the result of several months of dialogue among Orthodox, Catholic, and evangelical Christian leaders culminating in a gathering of approximately 100 leaders in New York City on September 28, 2009.
Attendees considered an early draft of the “Manhattan Declaration, A Call of Christian Conscience,” but the document was entrusted to a drafting committee that included Dr. Timothy George of Beeson Divinity School at Samford University, Dr. Robert P. George of Princeton University, and renowned Evangelical leader Charles Colson.
The signatories explained that they speak now because in order "to defend principles of justice and the common good that are now under assault."
"We will fully and ungrudgingly render to Caesar what is Caesar’s, but we will under no circumstances render to Caesar what is God’s."
The signatories of the Manhattan Declaration explain that although public sentiment has moved in a pro-life direction, "pro-abortion ideology prevails in many places of power and influence."
"Our government promotes and funds scientific research in which the lives of tiny human beings in the early embryonic states of development are treated as disposable research material."
They also contend that "public policies contribute to the weakening of the institution of marriage, including the discredited idea of unilateral divorce," while "influential individuals and organizations are seeking to redefine marriage to embrace same-sex partnerships and to recognize multiple-party sexual unions that are beyond same-sex marriage.”
Signatories of the declaration include Cardinal Justin Rigali, Archbishop of Philadelphia; Cardinal Adam Maida, Archbishop Emeritus of Detroit; Charles J. Chaput, Archbishop of Denver; Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York; Donald W. Wuerl, Archbishop of Washington, D.C.; John J. Myers, Archbishop of Newark; John Nienstedt, Archbishop of Saint Paul and Minneapolis; Joseph F. Naumann, Archbishop of Kansas City; Joseph E. Kurtz, Archbishop of Louisville; Thomas J. Olmsted, Bishop of Phoenix; Michael J. Sheridan, Bishop of Colorado Springs; Salvatore Joseph Cordileone, Bishop of Oakland; Richard J. Malone, Bishop of Portland; and David A. Zubik, Bishop of Pittsburgh.
Other signatories include Metropolitan Jonah Paffhausen, Primate of the Orthodox Church in America; Most Rev. Peter J. Akinola, Primate of the Anglican Church of Nigeria; Jody Bottum, Editor of First Things; Chuck Colson, Founder of the Chuck Colson Center for Christian Worldview; Marjorie Dannenfelser, President of the Susan B. Anthony List; Dr. James Dobson, Founder of Focus on the Family; Dr. William Donohue, President of the Catholic League; Most Rev. Robert Wm. Duncan, Primate of the Anglican Church in North America; Fr. Joseph D. Fessio, Founder and Editor of Ignatius Press; Maggie Gallagher, President of Institute for Marriage and Public Policy; Dr. Robert P. George; Fr. Chad Hatfield, Archpriest of St Vladimir's Orthodox Theological Seminary; Jerry Jenkins, Chairman of the board of trustees for Moody Bible Institute; Jim Kushiner, Editor of Touchstone; Dr. Richard Land, President of The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the SBC; Rev. William Owens, Chairman of the Coalition of African-American Pastors; Tony Perkins, President of the Family Research Council; Michael Timmis, Chairman of Prison Fellowship International; Juan Valdes, Chaplain of Florida Christian School and George Weigel, Senior Fellow of the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
The full document will be available [link to www.manhattandeclaration.org] following the press conference.
[link to www.catholicnewsagency.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822142
United States
11/20/2009 4:48 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
"Donohue and Levitt point to the fact that males aged 18 to 24 are most likely to commit crimes. Data indicates that crime in the United States started to decline in 1992. Donohue and Levitt suggest that the absence of unwanted aborted children, following legalization in 1973, led to a reduction in crime 18 years later, starting in 1992 and dropping sharply in 1995. These would have been the peak crime-committing years of the unborn children.
The authors argue that states that had abortion legalized earlier and more widespread should have the earliest reductions in crime. Donohue and Levitt's study indicates that this indeed has happened: Alaska, California, Hawaii, New York, and Washington experienced steeper drops in crime, and had legalized abortion before Roe v. Wade. Further, states with a high abortion rate have experienced a greater reduction in crime, when corrected for factors like average income.[3] Finally, studies in Canada and Australia have purported to established a correlation between legalized abortion and crime reduction"
strangely enough (not really) the anti abortion crowd is also pro death penalty
in essence- save unwanted children, let them live in poverty and then execute them if they kill someone. lol |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 814325
United States
11/20/2009 4:49 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
If the pro-aborts would just think. What if their mother
was pro-abort, would they be here?
It is God who decides life, not us, ever. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822142
United States
11/20/2009 4:53 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
lol yeah , except for like every civiliation ever on earth
the spartans threw their malformed from a cliff
chinese are accussed of killing female babies ect.
not unique to time or place.
God" watches abortions all the time no? i mean he is all powerful and stuff right? lol |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 814325
United States
11/20/2009 4:55 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
lol yeah , except for like every civiliation ever on earth
the spartans threw their malformed from a cliff
chinese are accussed of killing female babies ect.
not unique to time or place.
God" watches abortions all the time no? i mean he is all powerful and stuff right? lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
So, it doesn't matter...would you be here if your mother believed as you do? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823334
United States
11/20/2009 4:56 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
"Donohue and Levitt point to the fact that males aged 18 to 24 are most likely to commit crimes. Data indicates that crime in the United States started to decline in 1992. Donohue and Levitt suggest that the absence of unwanted aborted children, following legalization in 1973, led to a reduction in crime 18 years later, starting in 1992 and dropping sharply in 1995. These would have been the peak crime-committing years of the unborn children.
The authors argue that states that had abortion legalized earlier and more widespread should have the earliest reductions in crime. Donohue and Levitt's study indicates that this indeed has happened: Alaska, California, Hawaii, New York, and Washington experienced steeper drops in crime, and had legalized abortion before Roe v. Wade. Further, states with a high abortion rate have experienced a greater reduction in crime, when corrected for factors like average income.[3] Finally, studies in Canada and Australia have purported to established a correlation between legalized abortion and crime reduction"
strangely enough (not really) the anti abortion crowd is also pro death penalty
in essence- save unwanted children, let them live in poverty and then execute them if they kill someone. lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
It would be nice if you posted a link to the site you cut and pasted this clip. Plagiarism is a false representation of someone else's words for your own. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823334
United States
11/20/2009 4:59 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
lol yeah , except for like every civiliation ever on earth
the spartans threw their malformed from a cliff
chinese are accussed of killing female babies ect.
not unique to time or place.
God" watches abortions all the time no? i mean he is all powerful and stuff right? lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142
...and your point is? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822142
United States
11/20/2009 5:00 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
sorry- don't take suggestions about writing from a stranger on a conspiracy message board.
put your link down and show a u tube vid- i know that is the criterea around here.
its quoted- it ain't a high school term paper |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810003
United States
11/20/2009 5:01 PM | | Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL! | Quote |
Yawn. Who is surprised? When they took it OUT of the bill, did you hear Planned Parenthood and N.O.W. complaining? LOL. The only sound I heard at the time was the sound of Rino's and Blue Dogs getting FUCKED. |
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