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WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!

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Levski
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Bulgaria
11/23/2009 2:35 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Prominences can last two to three months and can extend 30,000 miles (50,000 km) or more above the sun's surface.
 Quoting: Galileo 746732


The 'snake' is atleast 5 times longer, maybe more
emerald_glow
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United States
11/23/2009 2:46 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824867


Good link with the best quality pic - thank you AC

emerald_glow (OP)
emerald_glow
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11/23/2009 2:54 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Prominences can last two to three months and can extend 30,000 miles (50,000 km) or more above the sun's surface.


The 'snake' is atleast 5 times longer, maybe more
 Quoting: Levski


Yes;t is longer now than the Sun's diameter, that is longer than 865.000 miles.
Anonymous Coward
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11/23/2009 4:39 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote


IMAGE ( [link to www.rainbowcrystal.com] )
Anonymous Coward
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11/23/2009 5:22 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

You all got it backwards. It's proof that what we called the 'sun' is actually a huge cosmic sperm and it's looking for the cosmic vagina about to appear in 2012
hey
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United States
11/23/2009 6:26 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

WTF??

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 825135
Germany
11/23/2009 6:33 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

gets stranger day by day...
really don´t know what to make of this !
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823767
United Kingdom
11/23/2009 6:45 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

 Quoting: hey 825131


What's going on........
Soemone think of the children!!!

I concur.....SO Strange

wtf wtf wtf
hey
User ID: 825131
United States
11/23/2009 7:05 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

view frame by frame...

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
Luminous Subscriber
Love the Woo
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11/23/2009 7:40 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Again...Stereo A COR 1...recent picture.

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]




I want to know what those massive ultra bright orbs watching the action are. Scale wise, they have got to be mind bogglingly massive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825044


Here is another one in a different position:

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]


and two more here on the other side...

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]


???
"When the Sun farts. The Earth sneezes. We are ONE!" ... AC 870633
Anonymous Coward
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United States
11/23/2009 8:02 AM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

look, there is no doubt that we are getting ready for the total destruction of the Earth, AS WE KNOW IT.
This being true, the powers that be, are getting their plans underway so that they will have the means necessacery to impose a total draconian rule over us. We will be a part of the new "system" or we will suffer greatly. Just look to the New Players on the international scene. They are in constant contact with others who are indeed running the show my means of the movements of the celestrial body. Time is not going to be man's invention much longer. It will go back to the rightful owner, GOD, The FATHER.
emerald_glow
User ID: 379016
United States
11/23/2009 12:42 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

 Quoting: hey 825131


Cool pic, Hey

5am UT it grew significantly and quite suddenly and became visible from the Stereo B, too.
...so it is not some dirt on the camera or near the Stereo A satellite.

Watch this one and slow down around 05.08.
COR 1 Stereo Behind
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Last Edited by emerald_glow on 11/23/2009 at 12:46 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778753
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11/23/2009 12:53 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

hiding

Wth?

Nykki said something about 8 arms?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778753
United States
11/23/2009 12:55 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

hmmmmm, maybe just ONE of the eight arms. 3/2 Harmonic.



IMAGE ( [link to i48.tinypic.com] )




 Quoting: Nykki



One of 8?

How many do we have now?
emerald_glow
User ID: 379016
United States
11/23/2009 1:08 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

hmmmmm, maybe just ONE of the eight arms. 3/2 Harmonic.



IMAGE ( [link to i48.tinypic.com] )


One of 8?

How many do we have now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778753


I don't think they are "arms": more like parts of one massive "body" or "cloud" that are "hanging out" from behind the Sun.

I don't sense any doom by the way. Something is changing, but it may not effect us at all, or effect us on a positive way.

Last Edited by emerald_glow on 11/23/2009 at 1:10 PM
Anonymous Coward
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Canada
11/23/2009 1:57 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 766924
Netherlands
11/23/2009 2:40 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Still very very curious...

blobr
emerald_glow
User ID: 379016
United States
11/23/2009 3:23 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Still very very curious...

blobr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 766924


Me too...Interesting that no experts came to this thread to "debunk". Neither any reference to this on NASA's websites.

It may have come from a distance behind towards the other side of the Sun, that we can only partly see through the Stereo twins. Or it may have born in the Sun itself on that other side.
It seems to "eat up" the light from around Sun's inner core.

Can it be a freakin black hole?


Somebody with a knowledge should answer...I can't believe that no one professional who reads GLP can explain this!!!
psi guy
User ID: 806060
United States
11/23/2009 3:28 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

hiding

Wth?

Nykki said something about 8 arms?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778753

basically we are in for an ass kicking
emerald_glow
User ID: 379016
United States
11/23/2009 3:55 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

bump

emerald_glow (OP)
UP
User ID: 825512
Australia
11/23/2009 4:19 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Me too...Interesting that no experts came to this thread to "debunk".
...
Can it be a freakin black hole?


Somebody with a knowledge should answer...I can't believe that no one professional who reads GLP can explain this!!!
 Quoting: emerald_glow


'Experts' tend to wait until they have the facts. I'm waiting on a reply from someone who should know. And I doubt any nasa 'professional' would spend much time on a site like this.. Me? - I'm just an amateur astronomer.

In regard to the dark smudges, I agree with those suggesting it is probably an imaging problem, either camera/lens contamination (that is a COMMON problem with the Stereo spacecraft), or an exposure/processing issue. Think about it - if it was that large, other solar observatories would be seeing it, and there are plenty of amateur observers who use very sophisticated equipment. You can't hide that sort of thing.

I'll be quite honest, I don't know for sure and if/when I find out the exact details I'll post it.

Some folk here seem to believe that there is a grand conspiracy, and those 'few' astronomers who have large telescopes are all in on it. Those people should go visit their local astronomy clubs, and also read a few astronomy magazines and have a look at what *thousands* of amateurs are doing, and what can be bought without any restriction. Just up the road from me is an amateur with a very capable observatory. I haven't bothered asking him as I don't see anything hugely unusual in any of this, and I have already made an enquiry to nasa that will be answered in due course. I'll pass it on.

In regard to other blobs, flares and bright thingies, that's what happens around the sun. Huge eruptions/ CME's/ solar flares, some of which are quite long-lasting and also 'sungrazers' (comets/asteroids/debris) exploding in a brief ball of flame as they get too close to the Sun. If you want to browse over all the solar obs images without understanding the nature of what is being imaged, then you will find many thousands of 'alien spacecraft' and 'doom-causing anomalies'.

But walk outside, look up. There's the Sun, as usual. No huge solar event, no black hole...

And in regard to the 'black hole', you DO know what one is? And you DO realise that they don't simply spring into existence where there is NOWHERE near sufficient mass?

And you DO realise what would happen (petty much instantaneously) if one was anywhere near the Sun or earth?

A few more questions for the 'researchers'..

- What do you think these images will look like at solar MAXIMUM? (- we are currently near a minimum...)

- How many of you have been here:
[link to cor1.gsfc.nasa.gov]
or here:
[link to cor1.gsfc.nasa.gov]

- How many of you know what a FITS image is, and why they exist?

- How many of you have downloaded the FITS software suite?

- How many of you have actually downloaded 'real' data from Stereo?

- How many of you know what a background image is, or have used one?



Now don't get me wrong - I haven't used the FITS images either! - I'm just not that interested and already have enough stuff to keep me occupied. But my point is that you are making inferences, and some of you are scaremongering, over low-resolution images without sufficient knowledge of the imaging process or what is likely to be in the 'real' scene.

Science, and knowledge, does NOT progress via that approach. It's the same approach used by the Nancy Lieders and James McCanneys of this world. Those folk have their followers, but their inferences (can you say "StarBurst!") and predictions (what didn't happen in 2003?) are consistently and laughably wrong, and it just hurts people, especially the gullible who get sucked in and scared. Often the innocent (eg the children of 'believers') are the victims.
UP
User ID: 825512
Australia
11/23/2009 4:24 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

PS, I just took a quick look at one of the 'bright blob' videos, and given that the blobs randomly appear all over the sensor including behind the completely solid occlusion disk, it would seem VERY likely that these are simply high energy protons that are hitting the sensor, probably after bouncing around inside the camera/lens assembly.

High energy protons are constantly streaming from the Sun, and at times cause a 'storm' - see the SOHO gallery for examples. They cause bright flashes when they hit a digital sensor.
INWARD
User ID: 774195
United States
11/23/2009 4:29 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

PS, I just took a quick look at one of the 'bright blob' videos, and given that the blobs randomly appear all over the sensor including behind the completely solid occlusion disk, it would seem VERY likely that these are simply high energy protons that are hitting the sensor, probably after bouncing around inside the camera/lens assembly.

High energy protons are constantly streaming from the Sun, and at times cause a 'storm' - see the SOHO gallery for examples. They cause bright flashes when they hit a digital sensor.
 Quoting: UP 825512


Have you ever been in space?

Do you have proof that protons create blobs on sensors?

Do you know how to measure protons?

Did you help build the SOHO imaging equipment?

Have you added anything factual to this thread?
GraftedPromise
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United States
11/23/2009 4:48 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

.
... when? ...
.
... when? ...
.
... WHEN!?!? ...
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UP
User ID: 825512
Australia
11/23/2009 4:48 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Have you ever been in space?
 Quoting: INWARD 774195

No, have you? Why do you ask?
Can you see the Sun? Where is it - in .. space? How on earth can you suggest such a thing, you have never been there and touched it...

Do you have proof that protons create blobs on sensors?
 Quoting: INWARD 774195

Yes, just read the specification sheets for any digital sensor, and examine the effects on sensors fitted to other solar observatories. Seeing you were too incompetent to take my advice and go visit the Soho gallery to see proton storm images showing the effect, why don't you try googling "proton storm" and tell us what you find.

Do you know how to measure protons?
 Quoting: INWARD 774195

Yes, but we are not talking about *measuring them*, just the effect they make on digital sensors. What is your point? Do you DENY that an HEP causes a flash on a digital sensor? Yes or No.

Did you help build the SOHO imaging equipment?
 Quoting: INWARD 774195

No. Did you help build your car/TV? Do you understand how it works, and can you drive/use it?

Have you added anything factual to this thread?
 Quoting: INWARD 774195

I'll let others judge that question, and also judge your contribution.

I answered all your questions, now you have a go at all mine.
urantian
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11/23/2009 5:15 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Now this is a magnetic pole reversal, not a flip or axis change. This means the sun will continue to slow down, maybe be more erratic in this for up to perhaps a day, perhaps sooner, perhaps a bit longer. This means the planet is preparing to slow her rotation. Then it will stop for a period of time, a few hours at most, and then the sun will begin moving backwards to set again in the east, or nor rise at all for some of you. This is the period of 3 days of darkness as the planet gradually stops, reverses and keeps up the reversal until the sun rises in the west.



This is the day of Judgment in your religious books, as many do not survive, and the earth changes greatly pick up, but not to the degree they do from an large axis change. We will keep the change very slow, lasting approximately a couple weeks which will slow the earth changes. We do not wish to have massive lost of life from carbon dioxide in the air.



Now, once this is flagrantly obvious to earth residents, we will start the stasis process, which will take about 4 hours. I desire earth residents that will survive this and awaken out of stasis to see this. This is in part the result of Jupiter, and why we have kept its progress greatly slowed, so we have more control. Those of you who think you are watching Jupiter are watching “Star Ship Jupiter” as Candace likes to call it, and star ship Venus too dear ones, which for the last year at least has been dancing in the sky periodically.



You on earth are not waking up much to this with Venus and other starships dancing at night. But so be it. You will awaken rapidly shortly and many religions know of what pole reversals are. If not by that name, the 3 days of darkness will get attention, when the sun begins to move backwards.




[link to abundanthope.net]
Anonymous Coward
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France
11/23/2009 5:28 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Now this is a magnetic pole reversal, not a flip or axis change. This means the sun will continue to slow down, maybe be more erratic in this for up to perhaps a day, perhaps sooner, perhaps a bit longer. This means the planet is preparing to slow her rotation. Then it will stop for a period of time, a few hours at most, and then the sun will begin moving backwards to set again in the east, or nor rise at all for some of you. This is the period of 3 days of darkness as the planet gradually stops, reverses and keeps up the reversal until the sun rises in the west.



This is the day of Judgment in your religious books, as many do not survive, and the earth changes greatly pick up, but not to the degree they do from an large axis change. We will keep the change very slow, lasting approximately a couple weeks which will slow the earth changes. We do not wish to have massive lost of life from carbon dioxide in the air.



Now, once this is flagrantly obvious to earth residents, we will start the stasis process, which will take about 4 hours. I desire earth residents that will survive this and awaken out of stasis to see this. This is in part the result of Jupiter, and why we have kept its progress greatly slowed, so we have more control. Those of you who think you are watching Jupiter are watching “Star Ship Jupiter” as Candace likes to call it, and star ship Venus too dear ones, which for the last year at least has been dancing in the sky periodically.



You on earth are not waking up much to this with Venus and other starships dancing at night. But so be it. You will awaken rapidly shortly and many religions know of what pole reversals are. If not by that name, the 3 days of darkness will get attention, when the sun begins to move backwards.




[link to abundanthope.net]
 Quoting: urantian 821482

bsflag
hey
User ID: 825131
United States
11/23/2009 5:35 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

I'm sorry, I know it's childish but it looks like the sun has a boner!

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
LOL
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11/23/2009 5:46 PM
Re: WTF IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE SUN?! "Dark snakes" on STEREO's COR1 images NOT JUST STILL THERE AFTER 90 DAYS , BUT GROWN BIGGER !!!Quote

Me too...Interesting that no experts came to this thread to "debunk".
...
Can it be a freakin black hole?


Somebody with a knowledge should answer...I can't believe that no one professional who reads GLP can explain this!!!


'Experts' tend to wait until they have the facts. I'm waiting on a reply from someone who should know. And I doubt any nasa 'professional' would spend much time on a site like this.. Me? - I'm just an amateur astronomer.

In regard to the dark smudges, I agree with those suggesting it is probably an imaging problem, either camera/lens contamination (that is a COMMON problem with the Stereo spacecraft), or an exposure/processing issue. Think about it - if it was that large, other solar observatories would be seeing it, and there are plenty of amateur observers who use very sophisticated equipment. You can't hide that sort of thing.

I'll be quite honest, I don't know for sure and if/when I find out the exact details I'll post it.

Some folk here seem to believe that there is a grand conspiracy, and those 'few' astronomers who have large telescopes are all in on it. Those people should go visit their local astronomy clubs, and also read a few astronomy magazines and have a look at what *thousands* of amateurs are doing, and what can be bought without any restriction. Just up the road from me is an amateur with a very capable observatory. I haven't bothered asking him as I don't see anything hugely unusual in any of this, and I have already made an enquiry to nasa that will be answered in due course. I'll pass it on.

In regard to other blobs, flares and bright thingies, that's what happens around the sun. Huge eruptions/ CME's/ solar flares, some of which are quite long-lasting and also 'sungrazers' (comets/asteroids/debris) exploding in a brief ball of flame as they get too close to the Sun. If you want to browse over all the solar obs images without understanding the nature of what is being imaged, then you will find many thousands of 'alien spacecraft' and 'doom-causing anomalies'.

But walk outside, look up. There's the Sun, as usual. No huge solar event, no black hole...

And in regard to the 'black hole', you DO know what one is? And you DO realise that they don't simply spring into existence where there is NOWHERE near sufficient mass?

And you DO realise what would happen (petty much instantaneously) if one was anywhere near the Sun or earth?

A few more questions for the 'researchers'..

- What do you think these images will look like at solar MAXIMUM? (- we are currently near a minimum...)

- How many of you have been here:
[link to cor1.gsfc.nasa.gov]
or here:
[link to cor1.gsfc.nasa.gov]

- How many of you know what a FITS image is, and why they exist?

- How many of you have downloaded the FITS software suite?

- How many of you have actually downloaded 'real' data from Stereo?

- How many of you know what a background image is, or have used one?



Now don't get me wrong - I haven't used the FITS images either! - I'm just not that interested and already have enough stuff to keep me occupied. But my point is that you are making inferences, and some of you are scaremongering, over low-resolution images without sufficient knowledge of the imaging process or what is likely to be in the 'real' scene.

Science, and knowledge, does NOT progress via that approach. It's the same approach used by the Nancy Lieders and James McCanneys of this world. Those folk have their followers, but their inferences (can you say "StarBurst!") and predictions (what didn't happen in 2003?) are consistently and laughably wrong, and it just hurts people, especially the gullible who get sucked in and scared. Often the innocent (eg the children of 'believers') are the victims.
 Quoting: UP 825512



What about the on the Home page where it depicts a MASSIVE event on the first page ?

[link to cor1.gsfc.nasa.gov] 5a
Anonymous Coward
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11/23/2009 6:11 PM
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gets stranger day by day...
really don´t know what to make of this !
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