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Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me)
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 814784
 United States
11/22/2009 5:24 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
well it depends what your product is. if its some cheap plastic gizmo, then go to china or mexico, if its food, u better do it here cause people trust usa food much more than in other countries. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754169
United States
11/22/2009 5:24 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
You should do whatever maximizes your profits.
Having foreign labor assemble your product would give them an opportunity they wouldn't have had. |
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tungfumastR NLI
User ID: 519387
United States
11/22/2009 5:30 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
You can use the weakness of the dollar to profit selling your goods abroad. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 824775
United States
11/22/2009 5:35 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Seriously can ANYONE give me a reason WHY I should setup shop in the USA?
ANYONE AT ALL?
I'm waiting.... Quoting: ^TrInItY^
Get the fuck out if you do not like it... bane me now |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822794
United States
11/22/2009 5:40 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Seriously can ANYONE give me a reason WHY I should setup shop in the USA?
ANYONE AT ALL?
I'm waiting....
Get the fuck out if you do not like it... bane me now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824775
I BANE you once, I BANE you twice, I BANE you three times!!!
CONSIDER YOURSELF BANED!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 754169
United States
11/22/2009 5:47 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Seriously can ANYONE give me a reason WHY I should setup shop in the USA?
ANYONE AT ALL?
I'm waiting....
Get the fuck out if you do not like it... bane me now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824775
I think that is what he considering doing. |
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007
User ID: 822052
 United Kingdom
11/22/2009 5:51 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
WHO CARES, WHAT YOU DO, I DON'T... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 822603
United States
11/22/2009 5:55 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
who wants to start a business, assume the one-sided risk, and churn out the production only to be taxed to death when things do or don't work out?
oh yeah.....the communist "government" does.
they have no risk.
they think. |
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GraftedPromise
User ID: 821001
United States
11/22/2009 5:56 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
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... look to the politicians ...
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... what you see before you is THEIR PLAN ...
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:)
User ID: 824688
 Canada
11/22/2009 5:56 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
No one need read anymore then the above communications to understand how the hypocrites and buzz words go hand in hand.
Yeah, it's real hypocritical to want to be able to start a business without being regulated and taxed to death, and end up losing your investment and wasting your time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822029
Unless your Goldman-Sachs or any of the innumerable Wall St. crooks. |
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ScrumpTheTexan 
User ID: 824531
United States
11/22/2009 6:09 PM
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We just finished 8 years of commie dictatorship, which was absolutely no good for this country. America is finally on the mend now, with Liberals disinfecting the viral infestation that almost destroyed our great nation. The future is bright. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 814550
Last Edited by ScrumpTheTexan on 11/22/2009 at 6:10 PM
I am a Christian.
Christian does not equal doormat or pushover.
SickOfItAll
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 628002
Canada
11/22/2009 6:25 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
You will still obtain the best developers and engineers in the US. You could go to India and work your way through all the corruption and breath toxic air if you like. The corporate tax rate in the US is a little too high, but go to Europe and see what you will pay. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 824804
Canada
11/22/2009 6:48 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
the truth is that there is no good reason to set up shop in America. to do so is economic suicide. I wish the hell people weren't so brain washed about all this environmentalist crap. Sure pollution is a problem but with all the chemists and engineers you'd think they'd find solutions to manufacturing problems but they didn't. They just drove them out. there's no turning back. Third world conditions will become the norm.
I wonder why these manufactures working out of china never worry about the communists taking over their factories and patents. If the USA becomes a third world country they won't be able to maintain a large military because it will be impossible to pay for it.
this thing is a big mystery. Why did educated people like those who run the corporations, banks and government put America and themselves in this no win situation? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 589521
United States
11/22/2009 6:58 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
America will only heal once the parasites that control it are eliminated. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 550635
United States
11/22/2009 6:59 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Seriously can ANYONE give me a reason WHY I should setup shop in the USA?
ANYONE AT ALL?
I'm waiting.... Quoting: ^TrInItY^
First, Yes. This is all about to change for the better. Washington has been hijacked and more and more people realize whats going on. People have had enough and are ready to resist.
Second, for now, if your finished product costs more because of certain laws than so be it, but I would take the difference out of the government's hide. Any government agency, or any government employee must pay and additional "corporate patriot tax" of %35. Send that signal across their bow for a while. Too many compaines give the government discounts when it should be the opposite way around.
They don't want the middle class in the states no more so they are trying to drive them out. The land mass here has HUGE strategic, shipping and agricultural value. They want people to walk from this so they can get it. Personally, I say they can piss off.
Find other ways of driving your costs down. Go solar, wind energy, pay laesser wages (many are unemployed), but keep it here. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 824804
Canada
11/22/2009 7:00 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Have everone that works for you be private contractors and thus be responsible for thier own taxes and insurance - then you could still do it in the USA. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 798834
I was thinking of that too. Might as well. All employers want to hire from the hiring agencies anyway. These hiring agencies keep everyone working temp jobs at minimum wage, no benefits and no chance of rising in the ranks.
So there will be few employers because the hiring agencies will be the employers.
I'd like to unionize them just to get rid of them.
I wrote letters to the government complaining about them and how no one can get a job unless they work for these agencies, agencies that feed of human misery. I also contacted the poverty coalition who laughed and said I know it's bad but you don't have to work for them. the government said the same thing. You don't have to work for them. So if I ever need to collect unemployment and they send me to an agency. I'm going to tell them no. You already said I don't have to work for them. These damn agencies make you feel like you're a criminal and they're your probation officer.
I'd rather sign my own contract than work for them. |
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PatrikC325
User ID: 587469
United States
11/22/2009 7:02 PM
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Yes, This is a very good time to set up in the USA.
The dollar will be devalued soon making labor cheaper and exports cheaper.
The next administration will follow a supply side economic policy which favors business. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 824804
Canada
11/22/2009 7:03 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
In America no one over 40 gets a job because of health costs. they too might as well sign a contractor's contract. The problem is that if they can't afford to pay their own insurance, Obama will send them to jail. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 824843
United States
11/22/2009 7:04 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Seriously can ANYONE give me a reason WHY I should setup shop in the USA?
ANYONE AT ALL?
I'm waiting.... Quoting: ^TrInItY^
one word.
EGO |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 746732
United States
11/22/2009 7:05 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Yes, I fully support your move outside of the United States.
You will have a very happy and productive life somewhere else.
Let us know when you need help packing. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 625424
United States
11/22/2009 7:06 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
if this product is gonna become so huge then what is the difference in you making say 3 million as opposed to 4 mill ( just an analogy for any amount you make) . is money really that important to you? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 824473
 Ireland
11/22/2009 7:25 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
What's the product?
I'm sure you've got all your patant/copyright legal crap in order being the savvy businessman you are and all that, so there's no harm in telling us.
If anyone attempts to steal it you can sue them and add even more treasure to your vast mound of riches you're always reminding us about.
So... what's the scam Trinity?
I mean, we'll all be using this amazing product or service or whatever soon enough right?
So..? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 824804
Canada
11/22/2009 7:29 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
I know a lot here don't like Alex Jones, and I can't listen to him that much either because he kinda drives me nuts, but he had on Catherine Austin Fitts last week and she really spelt it out. She was a banking insider during the bush sr./clinton days.
Bascially NAFTA and GATT were designed to destroy America. They made a decision to move all the capital and jobs off shore, distract the americans with a tech/housing bubble and reduce us to what every other 3rd world country is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77197
I don't understand it. Whose going to buy the goods, industries want everyone to buy if no one has a job? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333904
 Netherlands
11/22/2009 7:33 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Hah - and you think that regulation is bad in the US? Almost every country in this world has more refulation than the US, except some really underdeveloped or developing countries.
It's like some people wanting to leave the US because of health care - yeah, only Somalia or several African, Asian or South-American countries don't have collective health care. |
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osirus
User ID: 196395
United States
11/22/2009 7:46 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Hi Trin, You know you really have legitimate concerns. I can't really give an opinion because I don't know your product and that really make a difference I know you said you were concerned about the new health care and that is huge, but what other things might be a pain in your ass. Unions, EPA, OSHA the list goes on.
I was trying to open a laundromat in nj and now alot of towns are implementing a new sewer use tax which is costing owners upwards of 10k a year. A friend of a friend had three laundromats and in one town they back charged on the tax and wanted like 60k from him. He fought it and settled, but he sold and got out of it cause he was so fed up.
It's sad this once great nation has been destroyed by the likes of liberals and spend crazy Repubs. I would at least consider things first on a state level. Some are better than others. Nevada and Florida have no income tax that might be an incentive. Don't give up on us just yet. Everyday the sun still rises and you never know what the tide may bring in. Plus then Obongo can say he created or saved how ever many jobs you create.
Good luck in your endeavor where evr it may be.
Last Edited by osirus1 on 11/22/2009 at 7:54 PM
Machiavelli - “One who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived.”
"An armed public is the final check in our system of checks and balances" |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 804460
United States
11/22/2009 7:55 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
if this product is gonna become so huge then what is the difference in you making say 3 million as opposed to 4 mill ( just an analogy for any amount you make) . is money really that important to you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 625424
Careful or Trin and Evil Twin will brand you as an anti-capitalist, a deadbeat and a "loser"... |
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anonanon
User ID: 824872
United States
11/22/2009 7:56 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
Do build it here. We need manufacturing jobs, especially in the midwestern states where there are many plants that have closed down and that you could get into for cheap.
Also, many of the southern states used to have a huge textile industry and now those workers are just out there in the cold.
Toyota and Nissan do quite well in the states because they do not use unionized labor. Be cautious if it comes to that. Pay a competitive wage and be fair with the employees but too many of the labor unions want to dictate how things are done. That is one reason why Walmart doesn't want them in.
It is an interesting idea to put everyone on a services rendered basis and let them deal with their own social security taxes, income tax and insurance. That would definitely keep your clerical and accounting costs low but you do have to compensate people at higher wages for that.
It is a consideration. You might also need to have someone on staff who can help them with those kind of details especially if you will be hiring low level laborers and sales people.
Get some real good advice from both a lawyer and a financial expert as well as an expert accountant to compare the costs of services rendered for everyone to a more traditional kind of payroll arrangement before you make a decision. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 824793
United Kingdom
11/22/2009 7:56 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
One question only...do you want to beat them or join them? |
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TAC
Just another conspiracy nut
User ID: 823030
 New Zealand
11/22/2009 7:57 PM
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You can do the right thing or make alot of money. Which do you choose?
Last Edited by TAC on 11/22/2009 at 7:57 PM
Take your dogma and shove it!
Life is not about what happens to you, it's about how you deal with it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 824468
United States
11/22/2009 7:57 PM | | Re: Build It In America - OR NOT? A Real World Question From An American Entrepreneur (Me) | Quote |
so far not ONE PERSON can give me ONE REASON to build it in America...
that's pretty telling Quoting: ^TrInItY^
This is a VERY tough time to build wealth and businesses here.
Communist China is better, sadly, for that.
It's not just health care, either, it's a lot of things.
How could you even write contracts for more than a few months out (if you're in software or other engineering development), if you can't count on the value of currency, for example? You'd have to have catastrophic inflation clauses in your contracts, or your profits & your business might be destroyed by a 20% decline in the dollar. |
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