IRAN WARGAMES - Commander Stresses Iran's Ability to Shoot Down Israel's F15, F16 Fighters | |
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Grizzled Old Goat User ID: 778151 Canada 11/22/2009 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Commander Stresses Iran's Ability to Shoot Down Israel's F15, F16 Fighters Quoting: FescadoTEHRAN (FNA)- A senior commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) here on Sunday warned of Tehran's crushing response to any potential attack on the country, stating that Iran enjoys the required defensive capability to bring down Israel's advanced military aircrafts. "Be sure that in case of any aggression, the Zionists' F15 and F16 aircrafts will be trapped by our air defense and will be destroyed," Commander of the IRGC Aerospace Force Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh said. "And if one of their aircraft manages to escape Iran's air defense - before it can land - the bases from which these aircraft have taken off will be struck by our destructive ground-to-ground missiles," the Commander said in a reaction to Israelis growing war rhetoric against Iran's peaceful nuclear program. More EPIC blowhardism - the #1 non-oil Iranian export! . |
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Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hardened radar grid (stealth) airbases (slbm/cruise missiles followed by runway busting bombing runs) nuclear infrastructure targets of opportunity missile forces prolly a 6 hour airwar... next *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 824631 United States 11/22/2009 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Iranians will shoot down about the same number of Israeli aircraft that the Syrians did. Quoting: G. HouseSo tell us exactly why Iran poses such a threat to Poor Little Israel® again? If it's so easy for the mighty IDF to kick Iranian ass, then why are the Jews so afraid of them? |
Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Iranians will shoot down about the same number of Israeli aircraft that the Syrians did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824631So tell us exactly why Iran poses such a threat to Poor Little Israel® again? If it's so easy for the mighty IDF to kick Iranian ass, then why are the Jews so afraid of them? the nukes... *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is a nuclear war in the sense that it is a fight over nuclear capability. ever since S11/911 the US has been running as if in a protracted nuclear war as evidenced by the Continuity of Government apparatus being activated. keywords... protracted nuclear war endgame? single integrated operational plan *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 824631 United States 11/22/2009 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Iranians will shoot down about the same number of Israeli aircraft that the Syrians did. Quoting: FescadoSo tell us exactly why Iran poses such a threat to Poor Little Israel® again? If it's so easy for the mighty IDF to kick Iranian ass, then why are the Jews so afraid of them? the nukes... Ahhh... the nukes.... I see. Israel has at least 200 of them. And a nuclear facility in Dimona whose SOLE PURPOSE is to produce more of those weapons. How many nuclear weapons does Iran have? Israeli Nuclear Weapons [link to www.fas.org] Israeli nuclear weapons plant, Dimona [link to www.globalsecurity.org] |
x User ID: 824651 United Kingdom 11/22/2009 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Debka reckons that, without the S-300s, Iran won't be able to protect its nuclear sites from attack (Iran has the Russian-made Tor-M 1, but that won't do much good on the whole): Lacking the crucial S-300, a senior Revolutionary Guards officer was reduced to threatening: "If Israel attacks Iran, Iranian missiles will explode in the heart of Tel Aviv!" Iranian strategists are trying to make do with four devices: 1. As many nuclear installations as possible are being moved to secret subterranean sites - among them most of the research laboratories working on the development of nuclear weapons and missiles. 2. Bogus installations have been planted not far from genuine plants to mislead assailants. 3. Tehran's most powerful defense is the deterrent strength of its ballistic missiles and the missiles distributed to its Middle East allies, Syria, the Lebanese Hizballah and the Palestinian Hamas. Therefore, Iran's first response to attack will not be to attack Israeli population centers as the Revolutionary Guards officer threatened, but to strike the home bases of its air force, missile and radar as well as the Israel-based US military facilities, so that Israeli warplanes will have no facilities to come back to and its missiles are knocked off their launch pads. 4. Iran's means its air defense war game as a rejoinder for the joint US-Israel Juniper Cobra 10 anti-ballistic exercise which took place for two weeks earlier this month. Iran's leaders had to make good on their vow not to leave any American or Israeli military step in the region unanswered, although the anti-air exercise will expose the big hole in their defenses. Even if every last anti-air measure and device they possess is deployed, Iran's nuclear facilities will still be susceptible to attack, be they the uranium enrichment center at Natanz, the Isfahan fuel plants in Isfahan, the facilities in northern Tehran, or the reactors going up in Arak opposite the Straits of Hormuz. |
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Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Iranians will shoot down about the same number of Israeli aircraft that the Syrians did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824631So tell us exactly why Iran poses such a threat to Poor Little Israel® again? If it's so easy for the mighty IDF to kick Iranian ass, then why are the Jews so afraid of them? the nukes... Ahhh... the nukes.... I see. Israel has at least 200 of them. And a nuclear facility in Dimona whose SOLE PURPOSE is to produce more of those weapons. How many nuclear weapons does Iran have? Israeli Nuclear Weapons [link to www.fas.org] Israeli nuclear weapons plant, Dimona [link to www.globalsecurity.org] why yes... the international community understands concepts such as 'balance of power' and realizes that the only thing keeping the overwhelming hoard from swollowing israel is her capability to respond against with more than a dwindled population. grow up please... *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and of course I know about dimona.... for fuck sakes, the soviets were gonna bomb it in the 6-day-war.... Foxbats Over Dimona: The Soviets' Nuclear Gamble in the Six-Day War [link to www.amazon.com] *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 824631 United States 11/22/2009 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IAEA calls on Israel to sign Non-Proliferation Treaty By Yossi Melman For the first time in 18 years, Israel, the United States and the Western powers were unsuccessful at preventing passage of a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The resolution, passed at the end of the annual general assembly of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna on Thursday, also demands that Israel open its nuclear reactor in Dimona to international inspectors. The resolution was passed by a majority of 49 countries, among them the members of the Arab League and the bloc of developing nations; against 45 Western countries, including the European Union and the United States, and 16 abstentions. The non-binding resolution mentions "Israeli nuclear capabilities." In the past, the United States and other Western countries were able to persuade the developing countries not to join the resolution, thus thwarting its passage. Another resolution, passed with the agreement of Israel and Egypt, calls for nuclear disarmament in the Middle East, and for dialogue among all nations in the region to this end. Israel's representative at the conference, deputy chief of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission, David Danieli, said the resolution was counterproductive, stressing that Middle Eastern countries such as Libya, Iran and Syria, and Iraq in the past, had contravened the IAEA's resolutions despite being signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. He said these countries were planning to develop or had already developed nuclear weapons. Israel did, however, manage to thwart a proposal by Iran to prohibit any member of the IAEA from attacking the nuclear facilities of another member. [link to www.haaretz.com] Why should Iran be forced to comply with IAEA demands, when the Israelis are free to spit in their faces? |
Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Throwing this out there, but what will Israel do if Iran hits Tel Aviv? Quoting: x 824651The two could become embroiled in a Total War to the finish. i doubt iran will touch tel aviv, they risk losing tehran. i worry more about the other regional forces after their braggin about the ranges of their rockets this will lead to israeli annex of new lands, pushing strategically deep (a good thing for a growing population). Iran can hit a lot more than tel aviv... they will more than likely hit US bases regionally and close hormuz. Last Edited by Fescado on 11/22/2009 02:31 PM *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why should Iran be forced to comply with IAEA demands, when the Israelis are free to spit in their faces? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824631politics have been a changin (a debate after 18 years?)... the isreali capability is not public declared/disclosed, hence not applicable to treaty. Iran as a signatory has a responsibility to comply, israel does not. balance of power issues... Last Edited by Fescado on 11/22/2009 02:37 PM *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Frigg Stuyvesant User ID: 621289 United States 11/22/2009 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Throwing this out there, but what will Israel do if Iran hits Tel Aviv? Quoting: x 824651The two could become embroiled in a Total War to the finish. And then what? Probably more escalation regionally. Per old uncle Albert Pike. Cui Bono? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 822144 United Kingdom 11/22/2009 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why should Iran be forced to comply with IAEA demands, when the Israelis are free to spit in their faces? Quoting: Fescadopolitics have been a changin (a debate after 18 years?)... the isreali capability is not public declared/disclosed, hence not applicable to treaty. Iran as a signatory has a responsibility to comply, israel does not. balance of power issues... Balance of bullshit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 824631 United States 11/22/2009 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why should Iran be forced to comply with IAEA demands, when the Israelis are free to spit in their faces? Quoting: Fescadopolitics have been a changin (a debate after 18 year?)... the isreali capability is not public declared/disclosed, hence not applicable to treaty. Iran as a signatory has a responsibility to comply, israel does not. balance of power issues... International laws and treaties are fine for the goyim, but the Jew can just do whatever he pleases, apparently. |
x User ID: 824651 United Kingdom 11/22/2009 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Throwing this out there, but what will Israel do if Iran hits Tel Aviv? Quoting: Frigg StuyvesantThe two could become embroiled in a Total War to the finish. And then what? Probably more escalation regionally. Per old uncle Albert Pike. And what about the fallout from the destroyed nuclear facilities? It'll surely spread into neighbouring countries. Iran's military may not be comparable to Israel's highly advanced and technological one, but she fought Iraq for eight years, and to a standstill. She even crossed into Iraqi territory, as I recall. Hundreds of thousands dead, and chemical WMD used against her, too. Without a definitive knock-out (red for a reason...), this shit could go on for years. |
Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why should Iran be forced to comply with IAEA demands, when the Israelis are free to spit in their faces? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822144politics have been a changin (a debate after 18 years?)... the isreali capability is not public declared/disclosed, hence not applicable to treaty. Iran as a signatory has a responsibility to comply, israel does not. balance of power issues... Balance of bullshit grab a burka *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what about the fallout from the destroyed nuclear facilities? It'll surely spread into neighbouring countries. Quoting: x 824651Iran's military may not be comparable to Israel's highly advanced and technological one, but she fought Iraq for eight years, and to a standstill. She even crossed into Iraqi territory, as I recall. Hundreds of thousands dead, and chemical WMD used against her, too. Without a definitive knock-out (red for a reason...), this shit could go on for years. any fallout will be seen as iran's fault for pursuing military nuclear objectives. years no... israel vs. iraq nuclear capability... years? Last Edited by Fescado on 11/22/2009 02:48 PM *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 824683 Belgium 11/22/2009 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently, the international community does NOT quite get your version of reality. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824631IAEA calls on Israel to sign Non-Proliferation Treaty By Yossi Melman For the first time in 18 years, Israel, the United States and the Western powers were unsuccessful at preventing passage of a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The resolution, passed at the end of the annual general assembly of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna on Thursday, also demands that Israel open its nuclear reactor in Dimona to international inspectors. The resolution was passed by a majority of 49 countries, among them the members of the Arab League and the bloc of developing nations; against 45 Western countries, including the European Union and the United States, and 16 abstentions. The non-binding resolution mentions "Israeli nuclear capabilities." In the past, the United States and other Western countries were able to persuade the developing countries not to join the resolution, thus thwarting its passage. Another resolution, passed with the agreement of Israel and Egypt, calls for nuclear disarmament in the Middle East, and for dialogue among all nations in the region to this end. Israel's representative at the conference, deputy chief of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission, David Danieli, said the resolution was counterproductive, stressing that Middle Eastern countries such as Libya, Iran and Syria, and Iraq in the past, had contravened the IAEA's resolutions despite being signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. He said these countries were planning to develop or had already developed nuclear weapons. Israel did, however, manage to thwart a proposal by Iran to prohibit any member of the IAEA from attacking the nuclear facilities of another member. [link to www.haaretz.com] Why should Iran be forced to comply with IAEA demands, when the Israelis are free to spit in their faces? |
x User ID: 824651 United Kingdom 11/22/2009 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Possibly, but it still needs to be taken into consideration. israel vs. iraq nuclear capability... years? Now we're into a whole other ball game. There was a piece on Haaretz the other day about the this Iran-Israel war potentially lasting years (it brought up the Iran-Iraq war as an example), but I doubt that Israel, with its tiny size and tactical military, could withstand a war that went on for years. Then again, I just can't see her using nukes to end it. For me, an impossibility, in every sense. |
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Fescado (OP) User ID: 730743 United States 11/22/2009 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any fallout will be seen as iran's fault for pursuing military nuclear objectives. Quoting: x 824651Possibly, but it still needs to be taken into consideration. israel vs. iraq nuclear capability... years? Now we're into a whole other ball game. There was a piece on Haaretz the other day about the this Iran-Israel war potentially lasting years (it brought up the Iran-Iraq war as an example), but I doubt that Israel, with its tiny size and tactical military, could withstand a war that went on for years. Then again, I just can't see her using nukes to end it. For me, an impossibility, in every sense. it has already been taken into consideration, that's the freaky part.... it plays into globalist agendas. israel plans on using neutron bombs from what i've read. if a ground war begins with iran, now we're into a whole other ball game. i stand by a six-hour-airwar for starters... *yar har fiddley dee plunder the market 'cause a pirate is free* |
Frigg Stuyvesant User ID: 621289 United States 11/22/2009 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope both countries destroy eachother completely. Apartheid regime vs extremist Islam doesn't deserve a winner. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824683ME Wackos!!! Exactly according to plan.. The jews and mohammedans are expected to annihilate each other. Three world wars. "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4 Pay attention to the first line of this quote. We can see it played out right here on GLP! Who are the two main accusers? Islam and ZION. ALL as the Emperor has forseen it. Last Edited by Frigg Stuyvesant on 11/22/2009 03:17 PM Cui Bono? |
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