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Our Military under Obama.... Navy SEAL's Get Court Martial Instead of Medal for Capturing Most Wanted Terrorist

 
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The poor jihadi had a bloody lip!

Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist



Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com.

The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber," told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.

Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault charges and have retained lawyers.

Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.

Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an additional charge of impediment of an investigation.

The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7. Another three SEALs — two officers and an enlisted sailor — have been identified by investigators as witnesses but have not been charged.

FoxNews.com obtained the official handwritten statement from one of the three witnesses given on Sept. 3, hours after Abed was captured and still being held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia. He was later taken to a cell in the U.S.-operated Green Zone in Baghdad.

The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.

"I gave the detainee a glance over and then left," the SEAL wrote. "I did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in good health."

Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, spokeswoman for the special operations component of U.S. Central Command, confirmed Tuesday to FoxNews.com that three SEALs have been charged in connection with the capture of a detainee. She said their court martial is scheduled for January.

United States Central Command declined to discuss the detainee, but a legal source told FoxNews.com that the detainee was turned over to Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.

The source said intelligence briefings provided to the SEALs stated that "Objective Amber" planned the 2004 Fallujah ambush, and "they had been tracking this guy for some time."

The Fallujah atrocity came to symbolize the brutality of the enemy in Iraq and the degree to which a homegrown insurgency was extending its grip over Iraq.

The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades. Insurgents burned the bodies and dragged them through the city. They hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River for the world press to photograph.

Intelligence sources identified Abed as the ringleader, but he had evaded capture until September.

The military is sensitive to charges of detainee abuse highlighted in the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. The Navy charged four SEALs with abuse in 2004 in connection with detainee treatment.

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The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades.

Excuse me??? wtf
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Unbelievable!
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Good grief ~ I'm thinking not many will be taken 'alive' from hence forth.

What Oblahma doesn't know is that he's creating and us and them mentality in the military that will ultimately bite him in the ass.

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The Catholics and Muslims and Jews need to stop their fighting and just unite into the New Jerusalem for global peace.

Good ole Christian common sense. Unfortunately it seems those 3 factions need to continue to learn the hard way.

Nov 9/7
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If they had plugged him with their ARs. There would have been no problem.
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The Catholics and Muslims and Jews need to stop their fighting and just unite into the New Jerusalem for global peace.

Good ole Christian common sense. Unfortunately it seems those 3 factions need to continue to learn the hard way.

Nov 9/7
 Quoting: New JerUSAlem Russ


What the crap does that have to do with detaining a murderer?
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So, the next time they will just shoot them. This guy should just be one more dead Jihadist going to meet his 40 virgins.
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Good grief ~ I'm thinking not many will be taken 'alive' from hence forth.

What Oblahma doesn't know is that he's creating and us and them mentality in the military that will ultimately bite him in the ass.

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You nailed it.
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Just the O-BUMer living out his fantacies of 1984, as an ILLEGAL. ALIEN FRAUD and LIER !
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The Catholics and Muslims and Jews need to stop their fighting and just unite into the New Jerusalem for global peace.

Good ole Christian common sense. Unfortunately it seems those 3 factions need to continue to learn the hard way.

Nov 9/7


What the crap does that have to do with detaining a murderer?
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ask the cia that question.....
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Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
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Oh come on surely not. The captain is even going to let this go forward to a court martial trial....???? Puh-lease.
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Now you know why Obama refused to allow the Annapolis Grads to wear their swords at graduation.


lol
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So, the next time they will just shoot them. This guy should just be one more dead Jihadist going to meet his 40 virgins.
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Uh...thats a problem. After careful calculations it has been determined that Allah ran out of virgins on Nov.15th 2009

Now a martyr gets 1 goat and all the humus one can eat
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Good grief ~ I'm thinking not many will be taken 'alive' from hence forth.

What Oblahma doesn't know is that he's creating and us and them mentality in the military that will ultimately bite him in the ass.



You nailed it.
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Not to mention that less and less of our young men and women will want to enter a military that punishes them for doing the hardest job imaginable. Freaking BS. They get stuck in a sandbox for years and then they get a little rough with some douche bag responsible for the deaths of many other people and then they are the criminals. May as well let that guy go so he can plot some other disaster. Sick.
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Yeah I have major problems with this. It sounds like his word against their word to me. Where's the fucking pics? Dude could have ran his head into a wall to bloody his own lip. Plus the cops around here do far more than that to people around here (who are NOT terrorists) and get away with it all the time. This stinks.
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The Catholics and Muslims and Jews need to stop their fighting and just unite into the New Jerusalem for global peace.

Good ole Christian common sense. Unfortunately it seems those 3 factions need to continue to learn the hard way.

Nov 9/7


What the crap does that have to do with detaining a murderer?
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I am just saying since those three factions have no real leadership they are caught in fighting where they murder each other day in and day out. If their leaders publically called for their people to unite into the New Jerusalem then the fighting would finally come to an end. Otherwise they will keep on murdering each other forever.



Nov 9/7
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I have no words, obama is raping the dignity of the US military and no one seems to care but a few
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Good grief ~ I'm thinking not many will be taken 'alive' from hence forth.

What Oblahma doesn't know is that he's creating and us and them mentality in the military that will ultimately bite him in the ass.



You nailed it.


Not to mention that less and less of our young men and women will want to enter a military that punishes them for doing the hardest job imaginable. Freaking BS. They get stuck in a sandbox for years and then they get a little rough with some douche bag responsible for the deaths of many other people and then they are the criminals. May as well let that guy go so he can plot some other disaster. Sick.
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the military is bullshit....

but i am not not talking about the troops.....

i am talking about the concept....

for all practical purposes the military became bogus when JFK was assasinated.....

the only thing the military is doing right now....

is serving people who are comitting treason against the u.s. constitution....

and that my dear fools.....

started the day JFK was assasinated.....

there are no heroes.....

everyone is getting it in the rear bigtime....

and the military is at the front of the line....

ha...ha...suckas....
Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
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I dont guess anyone here has had to bring back a prisoner who doesnt want to be brought back before?

You have no fucking idea. This joker is lucky to have any teeth.

Navy Seals are not traffic cops.
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I dont guess anyone here has had to bring back a prisoner who doesnt want to be brought back before?

You have no fucking idea. This joker is lucky to have any teeth.

Navy Seals are not traffic cops.
 Quoting: PACNWguy

So did they read him his rights and let him call his lawyer?

Chairman Zero will want answers
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Navy Seals are not traffic cops.
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EXACTLY! They are trained to kick ass and get the job done. If you wanted him brought in nicely call San Fransico PD to do it.
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I dont guess anyone here has had to bring back a prisoner who doesnt want to be brought back before?

You have no fucking idea. This joker is lucky to have any teeth.

Navy Seals are not traffic cops.
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Yeah, I have nothing but complete respect for our men and women in uniform. They do a good job, and a tough job at that. Fucking dude probably spit at them... I would have punched him too. And yeah, he's lucky for not missing a tooth or two. This isn't my definition of torture by a long shot.
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"but i am not not talking about the troops....."



I agree. The troops believe they are doing the right thing. They are just following orders. If their President ordered them to help set up the New JerUSAlem they would do it. Right now it seems they are ordered to kill Muslims.

I would just bring them home to secure the country while the calendar system gets changed out and the infrastructure for the mass production of electric vehicles gets built(and all kinds of other projects too).

Also to ensure that the terrorist threat is eliminated, cut support to Rothschild Israel and have an evacuation of the people to America, Canada, and Britain. Give the Muslims the land and Bingo we have a world jubilee and no more terror threat.

Tough decisions yes, but this is what needs to be done.

Then just have the military converted to a rescue relief force for any issues that come up. Then the youth will enjoy serving because they will be helping others instead of killing them.


Nov 9/7
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If this doesn't incite the military to rise against Obama, what the frick will? This is utterly insane! Yeah, put the douche up in the Hilton, round the clock room service, caviar and lobster, his prayer rug and personal chime for prayer time...while our troops are forced to be in the sand pit, without adequate gear, in a land we shouldn't be in in the first place! Then treat the guy like a prince, yet he's the same one who wouldn't hesitate to torture those soldiers, behead them, or light them on fire to burn alive.

Obama really, really needs to GO! Let him serve in the front lines...after all, historically, any king or leader worth a damn has always went into battle on the front lines, not riding a podium.
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Let's worry about electronic voting machines first and let real democracy take its rightful course.
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Also to ensure that the terrorist threat is eliminated, cut support to Rothschild Israel and have an evacuation of the people to America, Canada, and Britain. Give the Muslims the land and Bingo we have a world jubilee and no more terror threat.


 Quoting: New JerUSAlem Russ



You seriously are deluded! You think by giving the Muslims Israel that they'll just stop their 1400 year war against non-Muslims? You think they'll turn their swords into plowshares and live peacefully amongst mankind? Hell, they kill each other, for STUPID shit!

You are seriously deluded, and apparently don't know the (Scriptural) history of the middle-easterners, nor know the declarations of YHVH. GOD promised that Ishmael would be a great tribe, and that 12 princes would arise from him, but HE also promised that his hand would be against everyone, and everyone's hand against him...that is the Arab's. YHVH promised Israel that if they turned from their evil ways, HE would restore them, but they didn't, so they are subject to judgment...but in the end, ALL of Israel will be saved, not for THEIR sakes, but for HIS promise and for that reason alone!

And no, amongst the Arabs and Muslims (of all stripes), there will NEVER be a "world jubilee". At least not with mankind at the helm of this satanic world!
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This is disgusting!
So what they gave a guy a fat lip.
He's lucky they took him alive and didn't snipe him at 500 meters.
As a Navy vet myself I cannot even come up with the words to express how wrong this is.
It's like we are living in Bizarro World.
Whose side is the federal government on?
I know one thing it isn't our side.
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This has nothing to do with President Obama. It is purely a UCMJ action.

The SEALs, as is their right, declined an Article 15 adjudication and elected to be tried by Court Martial.

One is charged with assault of the detainee, dereliction of duty and making a false official statement

Another is charged with dereliction of duty and false official statement and the last is charged with dereliction of duty, false official statement and impeding an investigation.

Once you have a prisoner in your possession you are obligated to treat him humanely. The assault happened long after he was captured.

And of course they are innocent until proven guilty.





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