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Humans are fallen angels

 
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Here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo
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I'm not banned for the moment.

I don't think there are two GODS. However I looked to see if as you might say the "lord of host" might pertain to a lessor position in the ranking of Heaven. I don't find any suggestion of this.

I suggest that the spirit and soul in us are the fallen angels tabernacled which means a temporary dwelling in a human body. this is the same as Jesus God dwelling with man as a man.

Paul wrought " don't you know that you body is a temple(or sanctuary) of the Holy Ghost.

My body is not me, the real me you can't see. the real you is inside.


Psa 82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
] Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.
Psa 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
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humans do not possess eternal soul.

by definition:

Breath of Life + Physical Body = Soul.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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Ghost = ability to breath. That's the real ancient definition. They have slowly changed the definition of ancient words over time.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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I agree with you that Adam's sin was not original sin.
But remember Adam's sin has nothing to do with me. I sin because I'm a sinner, I'm not a sinner because I sin. I Sin when I wan't my way over God's way , Everytime I try to be GOD, instead of letting GOD be GOD, I sin in the same way Lucifer did and I believe this is the sin you are calling original sin. I had problems with this too, even to the point that since I believed I was fallen angel, I asked God to forgive men of the sins I did before I was Human. This wasn't necessary. because I found scripture that GOD died for ALL sins.
I am a created being. Angels are created beings. There are other types of beings referred to but we are the only two that are referenced as fallen. I think God did what he said and He died once for all. It is His plan for Mercy and Grace.
To reestablish a one on one relationship with us.
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I am sorry I'm getting these threads wrong

In the greek where I get my understanding

soma is "the body" or how we relate to the physical world

psyche is" the mind" or spirit ,our intellect or abstract things like math

and
pnuema is "the soul" , like pnuematic or air is how we know spiritual things or even define things like "beauty"
this is were you get the "breadth" idea.

God said All souls are mine. I just take this literally.My body can exist without my soul

my psyche and pnuema can function on their on.

Do you sometime feel bad but don't know why, You body OK, your mind is functioning OK nut you feel anxious of troubled .
That is your soul.
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definitively so, yes.

the annunaki carried one of the rh- bloodlines.

fallen angels, nephilim, annunaki. same animal.

travel in space vehicles, yes.

interdimensional travellers require vehicles.

yes, they have substance enuf to procreate with flesh females.

that is how the GIANTS of old, or GEBER came to be.

they were the hybrid offspring of fallen angels with flesh females.

Goliath is an infamous example of one of these GIANTS.
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interdimensional travellers require vehicles.


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No they don't
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I wish people would read the Bible word for word, and not just what suits them best.
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Quite a judgemental reply there....seems to me every person who reads the bible is going to come away with a different perspective on it.
No two minds completely alike.
I wish people would understand that the bible is a book that has many meanings according to whomever is reading it
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Humans are fallen angels.

Discuss.
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No, humans are in a fallen state, but are mortal.
Fallen angels are rare persons, who've live out mortal lives,
died, been resurrected, and then fail at their tasks,
and interact with those in a mortal state, as if they
were still mortal.

Horrible punishments for this. Read the book of Enoch.
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My thoughts/reasons...all intuition and speculation:

1) I think the original "insider" was implying that we are fallen angels. That was the message I took away from the whole thread.

2) I come from a religious tradition that does not stress biblical literalism. I've just always had a "feeling" that the fall of man and the fall of the angels were both allegories for the same idea.

3) I was with several of my great aunts, to whom I was very close, near the end of their lives. Each of them, towards the end, started speculating that we really are in "hell". It made me think.

4) It would help explain reincarnation, original sin/man's evil nature and other tricky spiritual concepts.
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Above was me as AC and I'm bumping this thread for more speculative goodness.

hf
:SWT name:

When the shit hits the fan and the end is quite nigh,
will you cry out to heaven? Will you lay down and die?

Not me, my dear ones. This is my sacred life. To no one or no thing I'll surrender.

For how does one know where when dead he will go, or if sweet mother Earth she'll remember?
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I wish people would read the Bible word for word, and not just what suits them best.

And I wish that those who choose to ordaign themselves preists and spread the wor of the bible stop cherry picking text in order to fit their own personal agenda or the flock that blindly follows the foolsh tounge into the bliss of that which they wish to destroy, works both ways at some point god wants us to think for our selves.
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I would be happy to answer your questions.

I stand corrected: Seven Root Races and Five Cloister Races on Earth comprised of the 12 tribes ( not Biblical). They were seeded from the 13-14-15th Dimensions - our true spiritual guardians from Creator's realm. Please read the books below to understand fully. Very compelling.

The only way one can tell a hybrid is to examine the DNA assemblage. So that is not visible, except in the energetic morphogenetic field surrounding the biology of the person; and the planet has its own morphogenetic field as well that relies on the human lineage so it can be raised in frequency.

The Fallen Angelics came from many groups. Sadly, as high as you can go. The Lucifer rebellion is a bad movie script of what really went on. Once, Christiac Angelics fall it was because they wanted to claim Earth as their own as they did on Tara, our sister planet. Tara and further, Gaia are where we aspire to be to regain our immortality, our freedoms and our return to the Law of One, which btw Jesus and others taught. The Fallen took entitlement through control, slavery, consorting to infect fear and patriarchal thinking, creating religions which condone that thinking, placing humanity into a disempowered position that continues their greedy agenda for dominion.

The Angelic Cloister Guardians always know Source, Creator. They do not teach patriarchal creed, gender or race inequality, promote worship of an externalized God or promote Biblical stories.

Hybrids are very complex, which can be studied. Some of us still retain 6th-7th-8th DNA assemblage and have come here to guide others. Many are still at 3- 3.5 DNA assemblage. What must happen is that at least 8 % of the population must assemble 4.5 to 5 strand DNA assemblage before 2012-2017 when a major cyclic event comes about. This is not hype. This is according to Universe design. Every 26,000 + yrs we have the opportunity to ascend meaning make a jump past 4th Dimension where our controllers rule from to 5th and greater. The portal is set to open and it has taken many years prior to pave the way. One of the main reasons Jesus arrived was to prepare for this. ( you might be interested in the real story of his incarnation which is not what the Fallen have transcribed)

Are any hybrids fallen? Indeed. But they can re-connect to Source, bring up a full assemblage of 5 strands of DNA ( just a note, we have many more strands to go which will take lifetimes in higher dimensions) get aware of the true history of where we came from and why we are really here and begin the strengthening of our personal Maharic Seal. We have 5-7 yrs to do this. If we do not have enough souls on Earth (8% of global population) the portal will not open. If that happens, we remain on the reincarnation wheel and basically stuck for another 2000 + yrs. Then after which another 26,000 + yrs. It has not opened for many thousands of years. Which tells you where we rate in consciousness of the past. We have a greater chance now. People are more aware and connected to God and willing to make changes to start the jump.

So much to learn . . .

[link to www.amazon.com] Vol 1

[link to www.amazon.com] Vol 2

[link to www.amazon.com] Angelic Realties

The author was commissioned to translate the CDT plates, holographic and crystalline in nature handed down over the eons that contain the entire history of this planet and before. She was trained in Hawaii by the Melchisedek priesthood of Ur to prepare her for this as a child. The book was published in 1999. Then later in 2000. I believe Project Camelot Portal will present an interview with her very soon, Mid May. Then, she will speak of the updates hopefully.

Good hunting.

book
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Thank you Blue Topaz! I have a lot of reading to do.
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When the shit hits the fan and the end is quite nigh,
will you cry out to heaven? Will you lay down and die?

Not me, my dear ones. This is my sacred life. To no one or no thing I'll surrender.

For how does one know where when dead he will go, or if sweet mother Earth she'll remember?
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I wish people would read the Bible word for word, and not just what suits them best.

And I wish that those who choose to ordaign themselves preists and spread the wor of the bible stop cherry picking text in order to fit their own personal agenda or the flock that blindly follows the foolsh tounge into the bliss of that which they wish to destroy, works both ways at some point god wants us to think for our selves.
 Quoting: Jonathan97202 931875


I wish that people would read the bible hermeneutically.

I agree with everything else you said.
:SWT name:

When the shit hits the fan and the end is quite nigh,
will you cry out to heaven? Will you lay down and die?

Not me, my dear ones. This is my sacred life. To no one or no thing I'll surrender.

For how does one know where when dead he will go, or if sweet mother Earth she'll remember?
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YES we are!!! WE are the ones described in the bible as falling to the earth. WE rebelled against God before we got here. THAT'S why Jesus came and died to rescue us from the enslavement to satan that resulted from our disobedience.


OP, be curious as to how you figured that out. Do share. No one will believe you on this but there's incontrovertible proof of what I'm saying and MUCH more at this site.

www.anglefall.com

Will blow your mind!!

OP, would love to converse more off this board with you on this.
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We are fallen angels,

Jesus compares us to sheep because we have followed as sheep during the fall

The language of revelation is the french,
Please read Andre Bouguénec, find it and translate it.

We will become gods
It`s what we wanted at the origin
this is why we falled
we're angels who learn in human body,
awaiting the birth of a god.

At this time, we are son of man on earth
and our return to heaven, we will be son of God,
gods

It`s why we lost paradise
- The holiday paradise of the gods
- Our fall
- Our separation from our divine origins.

Man is a fallen god who remembers heaven.

1- Created adults, the Angels "robots" are both feminine and masculine (See sexes separation)
They have a fantastic creative power, created in the image of God.

2- Revelation ... Angel realizes that he is manipulated, it is with God.
Creator, he realizes he is merely God's puppet.
For his own creations were in fact the expression of God Himself,
who express themselves through the Angel. And an angel fills supreme creator:
He was unable to give an offspring!

3. The Revolt ... is the awareness of their state led by Angel Lucifer
it turns into a rebellion against the Creator.

4. Condemnation! You want to be real creative in My image?
Okay, but you will learn everything freely and by yourself.
It is only then you can become gods!

5. Finally, the Fall of the Angel ... Setting flesh (IN-CARNATION) on Earth.
Angel "loses its wings", it is doubly "cut" from the sky, first,
then his alter-ego, then separated into two. This is the famous separation of the sexes:
Here Adam and Eve, made from their past Earth angel.

(Luke XX-36).
So you understand that angels are from the human evolutionary process.

What did Jesus say:
"Because they can no longer die because they are like the angels,
and they will be son of God, being the son of the resurrection."
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I am sorry I'm getting these threads wrong

In the greek where I get my understanding

soma is "the body" or how we relate to the physical world

psyche is" the mind" or spirit ,our intellect or abstract things like math

and
pnuema is "the soul" , like pnuematic or air is how we know spiritual things or even define things like "beauty"
this is were you get the "breadth" idea.

God said All souls are mine. I just take this literally.My body can exist without my soul

my psyche and pnuema can function on their on.

Do you sometime feel bad but don't know why, You body OK, your mind is functioning OK nut you feel anxious of troubled .
That is your soul.
 Quoting: wilderness voice 983963

so when someone has anxiety
that is their soul?
how do you fix that ?
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Humans are fallen angels.

Discuss.

YOU ARE STUPID
HUMANS ARE HUMANS
ANGELS ARE ANGELS
CATS ARE CATS
AND DOGS ARE DOGS

COMPRENDE?
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fallen spirits indwell human being bodies unless they are cast out by the finger of god and then the kingdom of god has come to you.

and then there are cloned bodies that they live in also, every clone is a vehicle for a fallen spirit which is a demon.
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Humans are fallen angels.

Discuss.



Wrong.

Humans have free will; Angels do not.

Humans are a little lower vibrational organism than angels.

Salvation is possible for humans and not possible for angels.

3 differences.

It is now up to you to refute.
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Absolutely; 100% agree.
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Humans are fallen angels.

Discuss.
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Nope
We are the HYBRIDS
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all his talk of angels and humans but no one can comprehend that each of these types of beings are beings and that they all share something in common they are self aware and without being self aware they are nonexistent
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Humans are fallen angels.

Discuss.
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One biblical strike against the theory is that the real fallen angels mated with human women and produced giants. The fallen angels also taught humans about astrology, and magic. The book of Enoch talks about some of these. Enoch makes it clear that these angles were to be chained up until the judgement. The Nephalim's soul would remain here to rome the earth, invisible to man but clearly affecting our world.
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The RH-Negative Factor, HLA-B27+ Genetic Marker and Autoimmune Disease...Plus my story of the CHUCK! Please read! Someone HAD to insert the CHUCK...continue>

"WE" are NOT Taught to KNOW just how different we ARE!

Here is some information about the HLA-B27 genetic marker that runs positive in my family for generations. This explains the reasoning for testing both the RH- Status of your blood and the HLA-B27 Genetic Marker if you have Undiagnosed Pain or Joint Issues or have an Autoimmune Disease.

Ankylosing Spondylitis and Rheumatoid Arthritis are just two of many autoimmune disease that may be more prevalent to those people who are tested positive for a genetic marker called HLA-B27 and which tend to lap over each other making for hard diagnosing of the conditions.

My theory that the Rh-Negative & Recessive Blood Factors are associated with HLA-B27 positive genetic marker readings, is based on the research that 85+% of individuals diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis or "AS"; happen to test positive for the HLA-B27 genetic marker, which is said to be had by only about 8% of the population or less, based on geographical location. I saw a connection because the blood type O- also appears in about 7% of the population and again that percentage varies by the geographical location of the population. After researching this connection and family history, I felt confidant enough to lay out my theory for my mothers' doctors, they listened and tested her for the genetic marker and it came back positive, as did mine, my children's and my grandmother's. Again this is a genetic marker that supposedly only 8% of the world carry.

You do not need to be Rh-Negative to come from an Rh- Blood line...like me. I am 1 of 11 kids and the only Rh- but my parents are both 1/2 breeds :) as in they have a Rh- RECESSIVE blood factor. Some interesting info.

1.) The HLA-B27 genetic marker is said to be had by approx. 8% of the world's population. Similarly Type O- blood is had by about 7% of the world. Both share traits that show their migration pattern through geographical location and ethnic background, nearly hand in hand.

2.) Rh- (- -) and Rh+ (+ +) people have different immune systems. Rh-Negative people have a stronger immune system response. Medical professional's don't even acknowledge people who are Rh (+ -) and the implications it may have on their individual immune system type.

3.) Copper and Inflammation - Copper in an important factor in the body's immune response. It is said that Rh- people are more cooper based and Rh+ people are more iron based. Since Auto immune diseases like AS can cause inflammation, I believe copper levels should be looked at more seriously, especially in relationship to the natural levels for that persons specific blood type. If iron is taken so seriously with anemia, why not look at the connection to copper, inflammation and neuropathy that so many of us complain of.

4.) We process CO2 more efficiently.

5.) We have Vitamin and Mineral Absorption Issues. Especially Vitamin D, B12, B6 and sometimes K, as well as Iron, Zinc and Copper Influxes and Imbalances.

There are other clues I used to put my theory together. So far, I have proven it correct in my family. My mother's doctors never tested her for HLA-B27 or auto immune until I approached them with this information. It was enough to make them take a look at it as a possibility and she was positive. My mother is HLA-B27+ and blood type O+, but she is really blood type OO+ - and to simplify it, her blood type becomes O+. So while she is Rh+...she is also Rh-. If this is not a true statement, she cannot be my mother.

I am type AO - - = Type A-

My hubby OO - + = Type O+

Kid 1 is AO - += Type A+

Kid 2 is OO - + = Type O+

I also believe that the disease manifests itself differently in symptom based on this theory, as it seems Rh- and Rh+ people show the predominance of certain issues and symptoms as a group. Meaning more Rh+ people have issues A,B,& C while Rh- people experience more of D, E, & F. I believe it would be much easier to see these trends with less confusion if there were 12 blood type classifications.

Rh-Positive Types: A+, B+, AB+ & O+

Rh-Negative Types: A-, B-. AB- & O-

Rh-Neutral Types: A+/-, B+/-, AB+/- & O+/-


Over time we've been given the almost unchanging statistics of:

15% are RH- and 85% are RH+

First of all, most people do not know their blood type...so where does this statistic come from???

Since we get one blood type and one blood factor from each parent - WE HAVE TWO.

If your 2 blood factors are -- they call you RH-
If your 2 blood factors are ++ they call you RH+
If your 2 blood factors are +- they still call your RH+ and
YOU ARE NOT.

You'd be a half breed :) 1/2 Rh+ and RH-. If Rh+ are built one way and Rh- are built a completely different way...What about the person in the middle - They RH+/-? They must be different as well. Our immune systems, transfer systems, oxygen and carbon dioxide levels, iron and copper levels and more!

My story of the Chuck... If a chicken (Rh++) and a duck (Rh--) try to mate, they do NOT create a CHUCK (Rh+/-)naturally....BUT if there was an animal called a CHUCK (RH+/-) it would have an easier time mating with both the chick (Rh++) and the duck (Rh--), because it is 1/2 of what it is trying to mate with...

I think the confusion in the body of the CHUCK Rh+/- creates a "dis-eased" condition.

I also think the stats have to be more like 15-20% Rh-, 25-30% RH+ and the rest 50-60% Rh+/-

Hope this helps you understand how I began down this road of research. My parents, siblings and kids are all CHUCKS....I am the only rare DUCK!

SCIENCE HAS NO CONCRETE EXPLAINATION FOR THE ORIGIN OF THE RH-NEGATIVE PEOPLE.

Here is why I think these concerns and a Hollow earth or Cave scenario could be true. Science cannot explain the origin of the Rh-Negative People. But if we play 20 questions to find out "Who you are & Where do you live" the inner earth or TSHTF Cave dwellers may be an explaination for the Rh- Factor. Food for thought!!!!

RH-Neg Differences:

1. We have a stronger immune system.

Ex - This could occur from us being in close proximity to each other in a small area where infections and viruses are passed back and forth eventually building a natural immunity, which eventually reshaped our total immune system response.

2. Autoimmune Conditions and the HLA-B27 genetic marker.

Ex - We are prone to autoimmune conditions and to a degree seem to be almost allergic to the environment, some with food others malabsorbtion, vit deficiency etc. Also the immune system may be less actively fighting disease in a more open environment and therefore it turns on the body.

3. We tend to be fair skinned and light eyed, as well as having Melanin imbalances and Vit. D Deficiency

Ex - This could be because of a long time dwelling away from the exposure to the sun.

4.) We process CO2 more efficiently.

Ex. - Lock 10 people in an air tight room and with every exhale the air becomes more CO2 and less Oxygen, this could result form living in an underground area with limited exposure to new high oxygen air to enter. We would've had to learn to breath the new environmental air, just as we all learned to survive in amniotic fluid in the womb, the body adjusts. We also tend to be shallow breathers.

5.) We tend to have Iron/Copper imbalances.

Ex - This could either result from food environment or living closer to the magnetic core of the earth or the inner sun

Here is why it could be important. If there is an inner earth it would be a different environment and protected from the effects that we could feel from outside space influences like asteroid, comets, meteors and the sun...

If you are familiar with the Golden Ratio and Fibonacci Codes AND have ever sliced open an orange or an apple, they are built by this natural equation and they have an exterior, interior, vein-like cavities and a core. Why would the creator build everything natural on the planet this way and not the planet itself...

If you take your foot and put it on your forearm, your toes should reach the base of your wrist and your heal should cradle at the inner creek of your elbow. If you wrap a sock around your FIST heal to toe, it will fit your foot.

This measurements and creation tactics seem to be done vary on purpose and who knows where that stops. If this thread was mythbusters - I would say plausible!

It is a different approach to an age old question...where do Rh-Negative Fit into the whole story, as Darwin leaves us out.

Rather than ask where the Rh-Negative people came from, we are asking where would the Rh-Negative Body live naturally to have these features.

If I say, I have 4 legs, long hair, drool, sleep on a floor, poop outside and get parvo; you are likely to conclude that I am a dog.

So if an Rh-Negative Person processes CO2 more efficiently, has a lower body temperature, a sensitivity to light while prone to light eyes and skin, a very strong immune system, increase autoimmune issues, breathes more shallowly, is more nocturnal in nature, eats a different diet to stay in optimal health, has protein variation on the blood cells for RH+, etc. Where would this Physical body live most prosperously and/or what kind of environment would cause these difference to mutate and manifest in a human body.

You can read more Origin theories and shared traits at [link to rhnegativeregistry.com]

There is more but you will have to wait to read the update on my site - so please bookmark it.

FYI, My fingers do not keep up with my though process, I can't spell and I abuse punctuation; I have gotten over it - I hope you can too! :)

I would love to hear some opinions on my Rh-Negative Theory in consideration to the inner earth theory or a deluge situation, etc..

hf
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In Genesis - God said "enimity between your seed and her" THe Rh- Factor is an Enimity if I ever heard of one....just saying
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A long time ago fallen angels were on this earth and they found these humans to mate with and they made children. And a person in my family a long time ago (I don't know exactly when) found a fallen angel and had a baby together and my sister found that out through a LOT of research and said some people in that family have some of the genes of the fallen angels and I have some genes. Most fallen angels are evil and mean and kind of servents or messengers or well trusted things to satan but some didn't want to be one of those and never did like satan and were nice and sweet and stuff. So that are the genes I have, I have the genes of those fallen angels. Oh and all fallen angles did not have a choice to fall down to earth or hell so the nice one's were just sort of unlucky but for the evil fallen angels that was a dream come true.
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Re: Humans are fallen angels
If angels don't have free will then how did a third of them fall from grace?


Humans are fallen angels.

Discuss.



Wrong.

Humans have free will; Angels do not.

Humans are a little lower vibrational organism than angels.

Salvation is possible for humans and not possible for angels.

3 differences.

It is now up to you to refute.


Refute:

Angels most certainly do have free will otherwise the attempted overthrow by satan and his followers would never have happened.

Humans are flesh - angels have a different body.

Salvation is all about the souls of the angels, we humans are only bodies for the souls of the angels to be redeemed.


OP and Countrygirl speak truth.

Come, let us reason together.

Most of what you know and believe is a lie that has been perfectly orchestrated by one who is more clever than any "human" can imagine.
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