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Any opinion on an "American Mastiff" as a family/guard dog? good? bad?

 
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Any opinion on an "American Mastiff" as a family/guard dog? good? bad?
Im thinking of getting an American Mastiff or 2 as guard dogs (and as pets). any opinions on that? thanks glp!
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Don't live long...

Slobber a lot.
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you would do better with a pack of smaller dogs. Even mutts.
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My neighbors got on. A femal and huge about 140 pounds.
But I have to say that is one of the sweetest nicest dogs I have ever seen. She loves the neighborhood kids and watches the bus stop everyday for them. I don't know if she would ever bite anyone but if someone came in the neighborhood and didn't know her she would definatly scare the crap out of them just by her size alone.
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Doberman's are better. The robbed banks in this movie I saw once.
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While I was in high school, a buddy of mine lived with seven Bull Mastiff's. His mother bred them as show dogs. "Thor" was an AKA Grand National Champion. This was back in 1970ish. He was 38-40 inches at the shoulder and weighed 225 lbs. The three largest went through 40-50 lbs. of food a week, each. They were definitely NOT ferocious but, never the less, VERY intimidating until you got to know them and they got to know you.
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My neighbors got on. A femal and huge about 140 pounds.
But I have to say that is one of the sweetest nicest dogs I have ever seen. She loves the neighborhood kids and watches the bus stop everyday for them. I don't know if she would ever bite anyone but if someone came in the neighborhood and didn't know her she would definatly scare the crap out of them just by her size alone.
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i read on the web that the American Mastiff has a keen sense of whether a threat is present or not.
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My neighbors got on. A femal and huge about 140 pounds.
But I have to say that is one of the sweetest nicest dogs I have ever seen. She loves the neighborhood kids and watches the bus stop everyday for them. I don't know if she would ever bite anyone but if someone came in the neighborhood and didn't know her she would definatly scare the crap out of them just by her size alone.



i read on the web that the American Mastiff has a keen sense of whether a threat is present or not.
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If its a female its a good dog.He/she will cost you a fortune in food, need very long walks everyday; drools or slobbers a lot (mine used to use the cat to wipe her face off) and yes they don't live long -about 8 years...can have eye and hip problems.
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check out an old english mastiff
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Yeah, my neighbors mastiff(Rachel) slobbers alot. I can see her right now in the back yard laying in the sun. She is waiting for them to come home from church. They have a 9 or 10 year old daughter that Rachel loves. Where ever the daughter goes Rachel goes, and plays with all the kids. The kids love her, I do too. I think it's because she is so big and so very gentle. I don't know how much they pay on food bills but she does get hamburger and hotdog crumbs at who ever is having a cookout. I know the kids give her treats and I'm guilty of it too. But she is so gentle when she takes food from you.
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you would do better with a pack of smaller dogs. Even mutts.
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True, have two border collies,they stay on alert 24/7. Let me know when anyone comes around they don't know.

A pit sometime ago, picked a fight with one of them and attacked him the other one jumped on him and the one attacked

Got free from the pit and both of them kicked the shit out of the pit. Felt bad for him but he started it.

Border collies are not mean,and smartest of all the dogs.

When you get a dog, get two, have a pound pup also and he is not as smart but he has heart and can be sound off when he does not know who knocks on the door.

They work as pack.
Couple of medium size 60 or 70 pounds pups be you best bet.

Have a friend who trains mean ass guard, German Sheppard's and he is always worried about them attacking someone.
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Re: Any opinion on an "American Mastiff" as a family/guard dog? good? bad?
My neighbors got on. A femal and huge about 140 pounds.
But I have to say that is one of the sweetest nicest dogs I have ever seen. She loves the neighborhood kids and watches the bus stop everyday for them. I don't know if she would ever bite anyone but if someone came in the neighborhood and didn't know her she would definatly scare the crap out of them just by her size alone.



i read on the web that the American Mastiff has a keen sense of whether a threat is present or not.


If its a female its a good dog.He/she will cost you a fortune in food, need very long walks everyday; drools or slobbers a lot (mine used to use the cat to wipe her face off) and yes they don't live long -about 8 years...can have eye and hip problems.
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Agree and disagree, food ,yes but long walks, no. Mastiffs prefer short walks, better for the weight to size ratio. Very protective of their environment, good with children
Big problem as with all large dogs is bloat comes with them trying to eat too quick, keep the feeding bowl off floor level and use a stone within the bowl stops them gulping, you can get a special riser table for this.
Be prepared for the gas....whilst growing they do not process protein as well as they should and they do smell bad !!
Slobber, oh yes, when they let loose it goes everywhere, keep a towel handy
All in all though brilliant dogs
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Get a mid-sized or large dog with a black face and yellow eyes, which will scare the crap out of any visitor when he comes running and barking. We have wirehaired pointers -- friendliest dogs -- but delivery men and the outside help hate them. The puppy had the painters literally treed. He thought it was a great game!
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German shepherds are great, and are a bit smaller than a mastiff yet with all the intimidation power and protective instinct. They live to be 11 or 13. Check parents though, they can have hip problems but properly bred dogs have pretty good hips. Unlike rotties they are not big snugglers, if you want snuggling get a rottie and you still get most of the perks of a shepherd.
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Re: Any opinion on an "American Mastiff" as a family/guard dog? good? bad?
I had an English Mastiff. Fantastic dog with a super friendly disposition, but looked intimidating as hell.

He slobbered a LOT, and destroyed all kinds of furniture and fencing just because of his sheer enormity.

I had a wooden picket fence, and his favorite game was to wait for a squirrel to run along the top of that fence and he'd run into the fence, trying to knock the squirrel off. Half the time, he'd break the fence when he hit it, lol.

I'd leave him in the back yard all day, with my back door wide open, because nobody would come over that fence without a gun, once they saw him.
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I had an English Mastiff. Fantastic dog with a super friendly disposition, but looked intimidating as hell.

He slobbered a LOT, and destroyed all kinds of furniture and fencing just because of his sheer enormity.

I had a wooden picket fence, and his favorite game was to wait for a squirrel to run along the top of that fence and he'd run into the fence, trying to knock the squirrel off. Half the time, he'd break the fence when he hit it, lol.

I'd leave him in the back yard all day, with my back door wide open, because nobody would come over that fence without a gun, once they saw him.
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lol. i have a de-tuned version of mastiff breeding, the old english sheepdog and pyrennes cross. scares the shit out of people but a friendlier dog you would never find. he chases squirrels along a fence or up a tree and i swear if he ever caught one he would'nt hurt it. he would lick it. he still serves well as a guardian.
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I own and operate the American Mastiff Family website and forum (www.AmericanMastiffFamily.com). I own an American Mastiff and an English Mastiff. American Mastiffs are not the same as English Mastiffs. Neither are suited as "guard" dogs. They both have gentle temperaments by nature. My American Mastiff is a Certified Therapy Dog. If you want a "guard" dog, the American Mastiff and the English Mastiff are definately NOT the breeds for you.

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Our Great Pyrenees is dignified, extremely gentle, a fast learner, and quietly on guard. These dogs can go from ultra friendly to protect mode in seconds if they sense a threat. I never have to worry about him (145 lbs) knocking over a child or bumping into anyone. the longer-nosed French lines don't drool, but the broader faced English type do. All the mastiffs I've known have been exceptionally calm and gentle dogs, but they know when there's a threat and will protect the family.
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Super smart and protective. My dad has a mastiff. he was once surrounded by four snarling dogs and screamed for his dog. he came running and tore the other dogs up. He would do anything to protect. great family dogs, and teachable.
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Chihuahuas have the most attitude, they aim for the balls, and their bites sting. They don't eat you out of house and home, and can fit in the car to go places. And if you have to get rid of them because they just bit someone, it's not a big loss.

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They're worthless. You can step on them.
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awesome dogs, short life span around 7-9 years, awesome dogs but I don't think they have a mean bone in their huge bodies.

Rodesian Ridgeback if you are looking for a good size dog (80 lbs) that are great dogs but also would kick ass if you needed protection.

beautiful as well. There were breed to fight lions and tigers in Africa, and they don't seem to be scared of much.
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The rule of thumb is the larger the dog the shorter the life span which can be a heartbreaker for a choice as a family dogs as the kids will be attached. Then the big dog dies and they are sad.

A smaller dog will live longer. All you need is one to wake you and alert you to danger and even the smallest can do that.

A good sturdy small dog like a Westie or a Scottie is a wonderful watch dog and yet has a life span double that of the larger dogs.

It's the bark that deters most criminals, not the size of the dog.
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Re: Any opinion on an "American Mastiff" as a family/guard dog? good? bad?
awesome dogs, short life span around 7-9 years, awesome dogs but I don't think they have a mean bone in their huge bodies.

Rodesian Ridgeback if you are looking for a good size dog (80 lbs) that are great dogs but also would kick ass if you needed protection.

beautiful as well. There were breed to fight lions and tigers in Africa, and they don't seem to be scared of much.
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Agreed.



I have a Rhoady now and my last was an Old English Mastiff.

Mastiff can be very expensive for many reasons. Mine was 185 for most of his life. A little heavier when younger.10 great years. Much responsibility. Dogs have personalities some friendly some not so friendly.



My Rhodesian bitch is funny sweet and lovable and obediant.


.....Oh yeah, step out of line and that bitch will tear your balls OFF! Much smaller but, truly nothing to meddle with.
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beautiful as well. There were breed to fight lions and tigers in Africa, and they don't seem to be scared of much.
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no tigers in africa ;)
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Super smart and protective. My dad has a mastiff. he was once surrounded by four snarling dogs and screamed for his dog. he came running and tore the other dogs up. He would do anything to protect. great family dogs, and teachable.
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People that say a mastiff is to complacent to protect their family have never had their family in danger when the mastiff was present. I own an English Mastiff, female, 135# and 2 years old. She never lets me out of her sight. Lazy, seems to sleep all day...then I had an incident. She sprung to life faster then I could think...I can tell you she protected me fearlessly. It was stunning to watch! She's sleeping at my feet right now. Awesome companion and family dog...get one, you won't regret it.
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Re: Any opinion on an "American Mastiff" as a family/guard dog? good? bad?
I meant to add to my post that, in addition to the American Mastiff being a bit different from the English Mastiff, their lifespan and general health are generally more favorable. On average, the American Mastiff, will live from 10-12 years, which is a pretty long life for a giant breed dog. This, compared to about 8-10 for the English Mastiff (my English Mastiff boy passed away in October 2009, just two weeks shy of his 8th birthday). On average, American Mastiffs have less health issues (i.e. hip dysplasia, etc) because of the early outcross with the Anatolian Mastiff.

The American Mastiff is bred solely to be a wonderful FAMILY PET, and nothing more (i.e. NOT a guard dog and NOT a show dog). My American Mastiff, Murphy, is an actively working Certified Therapy Dog, and is the epitome of a Gentle Giant.

To learn more about the American Mastiff of Flying W Farms lineage, please join the American Matiff Family forum (www.amfamilyforum.net). In addition to many helpful and friendly AM fanciers and owners, all the AMBC breeders (American Mastiff Breeders Council)are active members.

Michelle Parlier, owner
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Forum: www.AMFamilyForum.net
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yo you guys are all word up retards reserch a breed before you talk abunch of bullshit about it fucking americans lol , American mastiff were breed from the english mastiff and anatolian mastiff , because they creator wanted a dog the look exactly like the english mastiff but did not drool has a long life span an very little hip related problems , my dog marley witch is an american mastiff she is an very alert dog , has a good sense when a threat is near,will protect if needed but is also a great family good, but when they are young introduce to other dogs alot or they will not get along with other dogs when there older. but if your looking for an good gaurd dog check into a rotti or a doberman insted or bullmasitff , but all four of these breeds require a experinced master
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Mastiff just killed a firefighter today! Evil lame dogs. Avoid!
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Mastiff just killed a firefighter today! Evil lame dogs. Avoid!
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