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[Verfied conspiracy!!!] Exposed: The Worldwide Efforts Of The Global Energy Lobby To Kill Progress On Climate Change

 
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[Verfied conspiracy!!!] Exposed: The Worldwide Efforts Of The Global Energy Lobby To Kill Progress On Climate Change
THERE IS A CONSPIRACY! AND IT IS NOW PROVED!


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The Center For Public Integrity just released a blockbuster investigative report that details the intense corporate pressure to block an effective global treaty from being reached at the UN Climate Talks in Copenhagen in December, and to halt efforts in individual countries to limit greenhouse gas emissions.

In addition to fierce lobbying behind closed doors, some of the most aggressive tactics deployed by resource giants such as Exxon Mobil, Peabody Coal and other energy and agriculture interests are often the most public: spreading fear and misinformation about the true impact of emissions regulations.

Some examples from the report:

In the poor, but mineral-rich mountains of the eastern United States known as Appalachia, coal millionaire Don Blankenship hosts a rally for "Friends of America" to hear country music and "learn how environmental extremists and corporate America are both trying to destroy your jobs"...


Around the world the story is the much same. Wherever nations have taken the first modest steps to stave off a looming environmental calamity for future generations, they've triggered a backlash from powers rooted in the economy of the past. Opponents of climate action may have different methods as they pressure different capitals, but the message is consistent: Be afraid that a cherished way of life may be lost. Be afraid that a better standard of living will never be had.

Here's a summary of the full extent of the center's investigation:

Starting in July 2009, the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists fielded an eight-country team of reporters to uncover the special interests attempting to influence negotiations on a global climate change treaty. Relying on more than 200 interviews, lobbying and campaign contribution records in a half-dozen countries, and on-the-ground reporting from Beijing to Brussels, our team pieced together the story of a far-reaching, multinational backlash by fossil fuel industries and other heavy carbon emitters aimed at slowing progress on control of greenhouse gas emissions. Employing thousands of lobbyists, millions in political contributions, and widespread fear tactics, entrenched interests worldwide are thwarting the steps that scientists say are needed to stave off a looming environmental calamity, the investigation found.

The tactics employed have changed over time -- before the Kyoto climate talks, industry lobbyists fervently denied the science behind global warming. Now they generally acknowledge that climate change is real, but attempt to stall and water down any progress in limiting emissions.

The map below breaks down how much each of several major world regions contribute in global emissions. Click on the map for the interactive version on the Center for Public Integrity's website.

Some other fascinating findings from the report:

A commonly repeated mantra in the media is that tensions surrounding the climate talks center on developed countries not wanting to give up certain standards of living, while developing countries fear that regulations will stifle economic growth. In contrast, this study found that "both developed and developing countries are under heavy pressure by fossil fuel industries and other carbon-intensive businesses to slow progress on negotiations and weaken government commitments. The clash cannot simply be framed as one between richer and poorer nations."

The report also highlighted the astronomical amount of money and effort the energy lobby has poured into attempts to stall any meaningful advancement of climate legislation, particularly in the US. "There are now about 2,810 climate lobbyists -- five lobbyists for every member of Congress -- a 400 percent jump from six years earlier."

To read the whole article from the Center for Public Integrity, CLICK HERE.
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If it means I dont have to use these deadly mercury energy saving lightbulbs I'm all for it.
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If it means I dont have to use these deadly mercury energy saving lightbulbs I'm all for it.
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Ha ha!

Nice one!

Just die slowly but killing multiple millions of others first, yep, much better. And destroy the planet for all the next generations to come, maybe even wiping humanity out entirely as well as most of the other species on our planet.

Yep, actually that makes sense, I guess. As long as the rich fuckers minting it from energy can keep their wasge and go down in a diamond studded casket, huh?
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I see that either a paid lobbyist or a dupe voted this thread down.

The conspiracy is right here at GLP people!

See it in action!

See how this very board has fallen victim to the HUGE money the energy industry if pouring into global warming denial!

This is our biggest, genuine conspiracy and it's exposed right here at GLP! It's happening right now, real time, across the globe!

Watch the politicians being bought off! Half of the Australian government has already been bought off! It's plain to see! Those who deny the science, the proof, the evidence are the ones bought off! THEY TOOK THE CASH!
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Lawrence Solomon: Enron's other secret
May 30, 2009

In the climate-change debate, the companies on the ‘environmental’ side have the most to gain.

By Lawrence Solomon

We all know that the financial stakes are enormous in the global warming debate — many oil, coal and power companies are at risk should carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases get regulated in a manner that harms their bottom line. The potential losses of an Exxon or a Shell are chump change, however, compared to the fortunes to be made from those very same regulations.

The climate-change industry — the scientists, lawyers, consultants, lobbyists and, most importantly, the multinationals that work behind the scenes to cash in on the riches at stake — has emerged as the world’s largest industry. Virtually every resident in the developed world feels the bite of this industry, often unknowingly, through the hidden surcharges on their food bills, their gas and electricity rates, their gasoline purchases, their automobiles, their garbage collection, their insurance, their computers purchases, their hotels, their purchases of just about every good and service, in fact, and finally, their taxes to governments at all levels.

These extractions do not happen by accident. Every penny that leaves the hands of consumers does so by design, the final step in elaborate and often brilliant orchestrations of public policy, all the more brilliant because the public, for the most part, does not know who is profiteering on climate change, or who is aiding and abetting the profiteers.

Some of the climate-change profiteers are relatively unknown corporations; others are household names with only their behind-the-scenes role in the climate-change industry unknown. Over the next few weeks, in an extended newspaper series, you will become familiar with some of the profiteers, and with their machinations. This series begins with Enron, a pioneer in the climate-change industry.

Almost two decades before President Barack Obama made “cap-and-trade” for carbon dioxide emissions a household term, an obscure company called Enron — a natural-gas pipeline company that had become a big-time trader in energy commodities — had figured out how to make millions in a cap-and-trade program for sulphur dioxide emissions, thanks to changes in the U.S. government’s Clean Air Act. To the delight of shareholders, Enron’s stock price rose rapidly as it became the major trader in the U.S. government’s $20-billion a year emissions commodity market.

Enron Chairman Kenneth Lay, keen to engineer an encore, saw his opportunity when Bill Clinton and Al Gore were inaugurated as president and vice-president in 1993. To capitalize on Al Gore’s interest in global warming, Enron immediately embarked on a massive lobbying effort to develop a trading system for carbon dioxide, working both the Clinton administration and Congress. Political contributions and Enron-funded analyses flowed freely, all geared to demonstrating a looming global catastrophe if carbon dioxide emissions weren’t curbed. An Enron-funded study that dismissed the notion that calamity could come of global warming, meanwhile, was quietly buried.

To magnify the leverage of their political lobbying, Enron also worked the environmental groups. Between 1994 and 1996, the Enron Foundation donated $1-million to the Nature Conservancy and its Climate Change Project, a leading force for global warming reform, while Lay and other individuals associated with Enron donated $1.5-million to environmental groups seeking international controls on carbon dioxide.

The intense lobbying paid off. Lay became a member of president Clinton’s Council on Sustainable Development, as well as his friend and advisor. In the summer of 1997, prior to global warming meetings in Kyoto, Japan, Clinton sought Lay’s advice in White House discussions. The fruits of Enron’s efforts came soon after, with the signing of the Kyoto Protocol.

An internal Enron memo, sent from Kyoto by John Palmisano, a former Environmental Protection Agency regulator who had become Enron’s lead lobbyist as senior director for Environmental Policy and Compliance, describes the historic corporate achievement that was Kyoto.

“If implemented this agreement will do more to promote Enron’s business than will almost any other regulatory initiative outside of restructuring of the energy and natural-gas industries in Europe and the United States,” Palmisano began. “The potential to add incremental gas sales, and additional demand for renewable technology is enormous.”

The memo, entitled “Implications of the Climate Change Agreement in Kyoto & What Transpired,” summarized the achievements that Enron had accomplished. “I do not think it is possible to overestimate the importance of this year in shaping every aspect of this agreement,” he wrote, citing three issues of specific importance to Enron which would become, as those following the climate-change debate in detail now know, the biggest money plays: the rules governing emissions trading, the rules governing transfers of emission reduction rights between countries, and the rules governing a gargantuan clean energy fund.

Palmisano’s memo expressed satisfaction bordering at amazement at Enron’s successes. The rules governing transfers of emission rights “is exactly what I have been lobbying for and it seems like we won. The clean development fund will be a mechanism for funding renewable projects. Again we won .... The endorsement of emissions trading was another victory for us.”

Palmisano’s hard work had paid off, thanks to the many allies Enron had enlisted. Deserving special emphasis was the environmental community, whose endorsement was crucial to Enron’s achievements at Kyoto.

“Enron now has excellent credentials with many ‘green’ interests including Greenpeace, WWF [World Wildlife Fund], NRDC [Natural Resources Defense Council], German Watch, the U.S. Climate Action Network, the European Climate Action Network, Ozone Action, WRI [World Resources Institute] and Worldwatch. This position should be increasingly cultivated and capitalized on (monetized),” Polisano explained.

With this company, Enron had been propelled to a leadership position at Kyoto. Palmisano had been given no less than three occasions for speeches, including one on the role of business in promoting clean energy, and he had received an award on behalf of Enron: The Climate Institute honoured Kenneth Lay and Enron for their work promoting clean-energy solutions to climate change — the other recipients were Denmark’s energy and environment minister and the U.K.’s former environment minister. As Palmisano noted: “Parenthetically, I heard many times people refer to Enron in glowing terms. Such praise went like this: ‘Other companies should be like Enron, seeking out 21st-century business opportunities,’ or ‘Progressive companies like Enron are ...’ or ‘Proof of the viability of market-based energy and environmental programs is Enron’s success in power and SO2 trading.’”

Palmisano’s three-page memo from Kyoto, which suggested that the Kyoto Protocol could work out even better than he had expected, stressed the need for urgency to capitalize on the opportunities that would now be on offer: “I now predict ratification within three years. I predict business opportunities within 18 months. I predict this agreement will have very significant influences on the energy sector within OECD and transitional economies and will accelerate renewable markets in developing countries. This agreement will be good for Enron stock!!”

The groundwork had been laid well, not least by entering into relationships with scientists who, Enron expected, would further its cause (James Hansen, the scientist who more than any other is responsible for bringing the possibility of climate-change catastrophe to the public, was among the scientists Enron commissioned). Just as shrewdly, Enron saw the importance in silencing the scientists who didn’t accept the alarmism that had driven the Kyoto Protocol. In a 1998 letter, Enron CEO Ken Lay, among others, asked president Clinton to appoint a bi-partisan “Blue-Ribbon Commission” designed to pronounce on the science and, in effect, marginalize the skeptics.

The precise commission that Lay demanded didn’t happen but the general marginalization of scientists did, and continues to occur to this day, with great success. Scientists who question the Kyoto Protocol invariably find themselves subject to public ridicule; all too often they find they are unable to obtain funding for their research, or even that their employment has been terminated.

Most of all, the skeptics are treated with suspicion, and accused of having been in the pay of the energy industry. The public in good part has accepted these accusations, its underlying assumption being that the fossil-fuel industry has the most at stake in climate-change policy. But if the public is to be skeptical of the influence that big money has over global-warming science, it should take the temperature anew, and recognize that the biggest money interest of all in the climate change debate lies with those poised to cash in on the climate-change policies of Kyoto and its successors.

Financial Post
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Lawrence Solomon is executive director of Energy Probe and Urban Renaissance Institute and author of The Deniers: The world-renowned scientists who stood up against global warming hysteria, political persecution, and fraud.

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I notice how some are using the money angle as motivation to why certain corporations are lobbying governments to oppose climate change legislation. Just face it, they will pass on the costs to the consumers, what ever happens, they don't ever lose out, so they have covered both bases, spent money on both sides, like all rich men do when a war is a brewing to polarize the issues to create the most profits. While we are debating and arguing what is real and what is fake, they make the money and we pay the price. Why do you sheep keep falling for the same tricks all the time? Who gives a fuck who is right and who is wrong, what matters is they are going to win either way, stop aiming your hatred and anger at each other and focus on the real destroyers of the planet, the true powers which will destroy our way of life and enact their agenda(21). When are you sheep going to learn, they give ammunition to both sides, they lobby both sides of a issue to create the most division so a war breaks out, and they then get to conquer through whoever "wins" out. rant
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Good luck OP..the truth is hard for some to see.
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Too late, Bucko. Your climate change scam has been busted. Find another gig, or crawl back under your rock.
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Too late, Bucko. Your climate change scam has been busted. Find another gig, or crawl back under your rock.
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+1 :5:
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this is an argument that the eco fascists used long ago and was long ago proved to be rubbish somebody needs to get with the times
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I see that either a paid lobbyist or a dupe voted this thread down.

The conspiracy is right here at GLP people!

See it in action!

See how this very board has fallen victim to the HUGE money the energy industry if pouring into global warming denial!

This is our biggest, genuine conspiracy and it's exposed right here at GLP! It's happening right now, real time, across the globe!

Watch the politicians being bought off! Half of the Australian government has already been bought off! It's plain to see! Those who deny the science, the proof, the evidence are the ones bought off! THEY TOOK THE CASH!

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Okay.

It was those darn oil drillers that made up all those phony e-mails about the global warming people trying to figure out how to shut all the nonbelievers up.

Darn those oil drillers!
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First global cooling, then warming, now climate change?

Guess you'll get it right one of these times.
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"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein

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First global cooling, then warming, now climate change?

Guess you'll get it right one of these times.
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Climate change is a much better term, cause it won't matter if global temperatures go up or down.

No matter what happens, you can still blame it on people using fossil fuels.
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What it all comes down to for most people in Western developed nations is that they are not willing to reduce their living standards to that of those who live in mud huts just so a bunch of eco criminals and UN trash can get rich off all the extra taxes and fees that would be dumped on us.

In fact, I don't know of anyone who would be willing to reduce their living standards that much for anybody for any reason.
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Desperation on the cusp of madness.
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In spite of the world's fear of carbon dioxide, science shows that a rise in CO2, the major "greenhouse gas", would help food production. In a CFACT report on the Greenhouse Effect, Dr. Sherwood B. Idso, President of the Institute for Biospheric Research, explains that "a simple doubling of the air's CO2 concentration, increases the productivity of essentially all plants by about one-third, while decreasing the amount of water they lose through evaporation by an equal amount. These effects essentially double the water use efficiencies of all plants, making them more productive and drought resistant."[35] (Notice, all green plants, not just trees, use CO2 for photosynthesis.)

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THe sun has caused climate change for this planet's entire history.

Windmills are better than coal. Duh.

GMO is BAD. Toxic chemicals are bad. You can be an "environmentalist" without buying into the global warming/carbon tax scam.

The environmental movement should kick the shit out of Al Gore and help fix this planet without bankrupting the population. Wind power, hydro power, cars that run on water...this could already be available.
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Al Gore is the loaded diaper of the UN. 5a
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The very temperature studies upon which the IPCC made their famous recommendations in 2004 and again in 2007 - the only empirical data on man made temperature increases used to justify Kyoto and now Copenhagan - is impossible to reproduce because the original datasets have been lost.

There may indeed be other observations made by hundreds of scientists over the years that point in one way or another to man made effects on the temperature. But most of it is inconclusive. Tree ring studies, ice core samples, and other measurements that reflect rising temps can be explained by other means, or are generally perceived to be less accurate.

The CRU temperature studies were the Holy Grail of Climate science - the singular bit of "hard" evidence that pointed the finger at man's culpability for an alarming rise in temperatures. But with the original data lost forever, it is now impossible for other scientists to duplicate the experiments.

Mann and Jones have now promised to release all the data they have. Of course they will. With the missing baseline temps from weather stations around the world, it will be impossible to prove that they really did "cook the books."

And given the fact that the Copenhagen conference is going ahead as scheduled, with everyone from Obama to the lowliest NGO pretending everything is just fine with climate science, Mann and Jones will probably get away with their unscientific behavior.

The alternative would mean that a large group of very important scientists would have to re-examine their basic assumptions upon which their theories rest. And given what's at stake - billions in grant money and their own prestigious reputations - it is likely that this will all be swept under the rug and they will try to continue as they have before.

Clearly, it is up to the alternative media to continue to hype this story, get the truth out before Obama and other world leaders sell our sovereignty and economies down the river in the name of saving the planet. Only by informing the public and keeping them informed will there be a chance to stop the drive for control by the statists.
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OMG this GLP is full of shills
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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OP, you're beating a dead horse. Of course there were powerful lobbyists on both sides of the man made global warming issue.

It just so happens that the evil oil lobbyists just happened to be on the side of truth this time. Shit happens sometimes.

Do you really think the U.N. (IPCC), Al Gore and his cronies were really interested in the welfare of the earth and its peoples? It was all about greed.
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THIS THREAD IS D.O.A.


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In addition to fierce lobbying behind closed doors, some of the most aggressive tactics deployed by resource giants such as Exxon Mobil, Peabody Coal and other energy and agriculture interests are often the most public: spreading fear and misinformation about the true impact of emissions regulations.


 Quoting: Witness_

So the oil companies using aggressive tactics versus AL Gores outright lies(Hockey stick graph) to make a ton of money selling carbon credits & his dull books and movie plus Global Warming scientists falsifying data to get HUGE govt grants

At least the oil companies don't want my tax dollars or tell me how to live

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The OP is disinformation. Because of peak oil and peak resources, big oil wants cap and trade as a way to regulate the costs of fossil fuels through regulation and taxation (you will basically be paying twice for the same amount of fuel). Big oil is behind cap and trade 100%.
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OP, you're beating a dead horse. Of course there were powerful lobbyists on both sides of the man made global warming issue.

It just so happens that the evil oil lobbyists just happened to be on the side of truth this time. Shit happens sometimes.

Do you really think the U.N. (IPCC), Al Gore and his cronies were really interested in the welfare of the earth and its peoples? It was all about greed.
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Couldn't have said it better!
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What are the "proper climate" parameters, and who made that decision?

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Like I said OP you fail.........

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What are the "proper climate" parameters, and who made that decision?
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Al Gore?

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