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They've just made it a whole lot easier to be a criminal in Indiana. Now, all a would-be burglar has to do is consult an internet database to find his next victim, and he can be assured the residents will have no way to defend themselves.

Good job, Herald-Times. You just guaranteed more gun sales in your state. I nominate you for second place for next year's "Gun Salesman of the Year" award. A distant second, of course, to our esteemed president.

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Bloomington, Indiana Herald-Times Treats Law-Abiding Gun Owners like Registered Sex Offenders!

Tuesday, December 01, 2009

On November 30, 2009, the Bloomington Herald-Times made the following announcement:

“This week, HeraldTimesOnline.com will launch its new gun permit database. You’ll be able to search gun permit records by county, city or town and street."

The Herald-Times has begun receiving calls and emails, and their response is a defiant defense of their online gun permit database.


Anyone who visits the newspaper website will be able to search the number of permits on a given street or neighborhood. Although at this point the names and house numbers are not listed, the newspaper’s website treats law-abiding Indiana gun owners like sex offenders on a searchable database.


It is NRA's firm belief that there is no public good served by the publishing or cataloguing private citizens’ gun ownership information, and that more harm is done by such an action. Law-abiding Hoosiers should not be subjected to the same treatment as sex offenders, and if the newspaper won’t listen to their constituents and customers, then NRA Members and Indiana gun owners should send a financial message by cancelling their subscriptions to the Bloomington Herald-Times.

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holy shit!
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Time to publish the names, addresses and phone numbers of the entire staff of the newspaper.
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They actually seem to think that people are going to consult this database and avoid living in neighborhoods with "too many" gun owners. Are they insane? As if knowing that your law-abiding neighbor has a gun is even remotely a problem for anyone who isn't a pantywaste pinko commie.

This is actually good, in a way. Besides guaranteeing more gun sales among the good guys, it will also guarantee that the pinkos stay out of decent, God-fearing American neighborhoods.

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They actually seem to think that people are going to consult this database and avoid living in meighborhoods with "too many" gun owners. Are they insane? As if knowing that your law-abiding neighbor has a gun is even remotely a problem for anyone who isn't a pantywaste pinko commie.

This is actually good, in a way. Besides guaranteeing more gun sales among the good guys, it will also guarantee that the pinkos stay out of decent, God-fearing American neighborhoods.
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"Unintended Consequences", eh?

rofl
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Bloomington, IN 47401-7720

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Job: Hoosier Times, President
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Scott Schurz

1900 S Walnut St

Bloomington, IN 47401-7720

(812) 332-4401

Job: Hoosier Times, President
 Quoting: MakeMyDayPunk


I wonder if Scott owns a gun, and if not, I wonder how he feels about his own newspaper letting every rapist and burglar in the state of Indiana know that he's left his family defenseless.

Unintended consequences, indeed.

If you live in Indiana, don't wait. Make sure you get yourself a gun before they publish this list. You can pretty much guarantee you'll never have to use it, because all the criminals will be heading next door to rob your liberal neighbor.
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Thanks for the pin, Traveler.
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bump



over reaching to be sure



now criminals who cannot legally get guns the STATE will help them profile houses to gain weapons on their next burglaries



Dysfunction seems to be the new pc




glad I am out of the cities-I may "suffer" because I am not sharing parking with walmart patrons but c'est la Vie!
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Reminds me of the fake sticker ... one we should probably have printed up for real:

A gun on a yellow background with a red circle with a line drawn through it across the gun and a statement below: We do NOT believe in guns.

Make that sticker available for people to put on their front doors ... that way the criminals would know who was unarmed and not likely to resist!
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can this even be legal?? would not a gun owner, or even a non-owner have some grounds for legal action?
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Scott Schurz

1900 S Walnut St

Bloomington, IN 47401-7720

(812) 332-4401

Job: Hoosier Times, President
 Quoting: MakeMyDayPunk


Beautiful work-----
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Time to publish the names, addresses and phone numbers of the entire staff of the newspaper.
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125 years ago this newspaper itself would be burned to the ground. just saying.
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Reminds me of the fake sticker ... one we should probably have printed up for real:

A gun on a yellow background with a red circle with a line drawn through it across the gun and a statement below: We do NOT believe in guns.

Make that sticker available for people to put on their front doors ... that way the criminals would know who was unarmed and not likely to resist!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713601


That's effectively what the Herald-Times is doing. Unfortunately, all those unarmed people don't have a say in the matter.

These journalists are so afraid of guns, and think that everybody who owns a gun is a potential threat to them, that they willingly and blindly endanger all the non-gun owning citizens of their own state.
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Time to publish the names, addresses and phone numbers of the entire staff of the newspaper.
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Agreed
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"Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance--
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can this even be legal?? would not a gun owner, or even a non-owner have some grounds for legal action?
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One would assume gun registrations are public record, but there's a reason nobody has every published them before. See above.
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Time to publish the names, addresses and phone numbers of the entire staff of the newspaper.
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Why that sounds good! And add in all public record data.
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12/02/2009 02:31 PM
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What's the point in a concealed weapon, if everyone knows you have it?
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Time to publish the names, addresses and phone numbers of the entire staff of the newspaper.



Agreed
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No addresses, but how's this?

Management
Scott Schurz, Sunday Hoosier Times/Editor-in-Chief
812-331-4250


E. Mayer Maloney Jr., Publisher
(812) 331-4251


Bob Zaltsberg, Editor
(812) 331-4364


Todd Davidson, Digital Media Director
(812) 349-1415


Cory Bollinger, Advertising Director
(812) 331-4279


Laurie Ragle, Retail Advertising Manager
(812) 331-4303


Tim D. Smith, Circulation Director
(812) 331-4203


Brad Clarke, Production Manager
(812) 331-4272


Kim Sutton, Human Resources Director
(812) 331-4253


Brooke McCluskey, Marketing Manager
(812) 349-1400


Newsroom Staff
Bob Zaltsberg, Editor
(812) 331-4364


Andrea Murray, Managing Editor
(812) 331-4351


Bill Strother, Assistant Managing Editor, Projects & Business
(812) 331-4265


J.J. Perry, Assistant Managing Editor, Digital
(812) 331-4352


Chris Korman, Sports Editor
(812) 331-4353


Janice Rickert, News Editor
(812) 331-4347


David Snodgress, Photography/Video
(812) 331-4365
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how about free guns too
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can this even be legal?? would not a gun owner, or even a non-owner have some grounds for legal action?
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invasion of privacy? a lot of hurdles to jump in order to pursue legally but definately worth a shot. Only way to hurty these idiots is in their pocket books.
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison

"Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance--
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damned

That is so wrong on so many levels.
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Umm what about the ones who have unregistered firearms LOL. Do you register yours?
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Umm what about the ones who have unregistered firearms LOL. Do you register yours?
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It depends on the state. In Alabama, for example, we don't have to register, unless we want a concealed carry permit. In Indiana, who knows?
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Umm what about the ones who have unregistered firearms LOL. Do you register yours?
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There is no gun registration in Indiana, or most other states.

The only records that are supposed to be kept are the 4473 forms (background check questionnaire), by the retail establishment from which the gun was purchased. The state and federal governments are prevented by law, supposedly, from compiling those forms and data.

What they want to publish is the list of concealed carry permit holders.
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peace

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Umm what about the ones who have unregistered firearms LOL. Do you register yours?

There is no gun registration in Indiana, or most other states.

The only records that are supposed to be kept are the 4473 forms (background check questionnaire), by the retail establishment from which the gun was purchased. The state and federal governments are prevented by law, supposedly, from compiling those forms and data.

What they want to publish is the list of concealed carry permit holders.
 Quoting: Evil Twin


Thanks for the clarification, ET.

What a joke. Do they have any statistics on how many concealed carry permit holders commit violent crimes? I would imagine it would be pretty close to zero, excepting a rare domestic issue.

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Thanks for the clarification, ET.

What a joke. Do they have any statistics on how many concealed carry permit holders commit violent crimes? I would imagine it would be pretty close to zero, excepting a rare domestic issue.
 Quoting: Revbo

I'm sure they do, if you dig for it.

I looked it up for my state, Florida, last year, and it was a ridiculously low number like .02%.
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Time to publish the names, addresses and phone numbers of the entire staff of the newspaper.
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I agree 100%. Who wants to help start the journalist and politician database?
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First time you buy a gun in Indiana you need ID. Now if I buy a shotgun at Walmart,to hunt on my own property,no permit is needed. If I need my hand gun/shotgun repaired,going to a firing range (or any other reason I take it off my land) I will need a consealed permit to drive to the repair store.