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Conspiracy Theory Jesse Ventura - Haarp project

 
robert77
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can we consider the idea that there are far more good people than those that do wrong and accept that as we learn the truth we will speak out and squash the negative and change the world....can you envision that?....can you....just cause the elite have done there part for so long does not mean it is a permanent existence. WE need the negative to persuade us to envision positive....balance...now it is time..this is my idea of "truth shall set us free"....is this not the most informative years? let go of the fear...
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"Just finished watching on TruTV, what a joke."

Alright, why do you think it was a joke. It didn't get the punch line?
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I thought the show was well done. Although I wish they would have talked a bit more on how a billion watts of power is generated to support HAARP. Hats off to Jesse for having the courage and the infrastructure to do something like this and get the word out that something supposedly harmless and above board is anything but......
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Who is the target audience for this show? The world hopping, gate-crashing stuff is pure hype. Break it up into short, punchy segments, and interrupt frequently with advertising. It was certainly not a high-brow, intellectual approach.


On the other hand, they covered the points pretty well. The origins of the technology, the high-school science class demo of weather manipulation, the government's monopolization and secrecy, the potential for use as a weapon and for mind-control.

They did not break the veil of secrecy surrounding Haarp. They merely showed what the questions are. We own it. We paid for it, yet we are in the dark concerning it's actual/intended usage.

I give the show a B for bad acting.
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I thought the show was well done. Although I wish they would have talked a bit more on how a billion watts of power is generated to support HAARP. Hats off to Jesse for having the courage and the infrastructure to do something like this and get the word out that something supposedly harmless and above board is anything but......
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How does Jesse have courage when they knew in advance he was flying in and turned the HAARP off when "they got to within a mile". This was an obvious psy-op by the gubment who is using Jesse to inform people that HAARP exists.
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I thought the show was well done. Although I wish they would have talked a bit more on how a billion watts of power is generated to support HAARP. Hats off to Jesse for having the courage and the infrastructure to do something like this and get the word out that something supposedly harmless and above board is anything but......

How does Jesse have courage when they knew in advance he was flying in and turned the HAARP off when "they got to within a mile". This was an obvious psy-op by the gubment who is using Jesse to inform people that HAARP exists.
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He has courage to air a show that nobody else will.

Why would the government want to inform people that HAARP exists and have them fear its abilities?
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I thought the show was well done. Although I wish they would have talked a bit more on how a billion watts of power is generated to support HAARP. Hats off to Jesse for having the courage and the infrastructure to do something like this and get the word out that something supposedly harmless and above board is anything but......

How does Jesse have courage when they knew in advance he was flying in and turned the HAARP off when "they got to within a mile". This was an obvious psy-op by the gubment who is using Jesse to inform people that HAARP exists.


He has courage to air a show that nobody else will.

Why would the government want to inform people that HAARP exists and have them fear its abilities?
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I would agree if it were a black op type thing. I watched a few HAARP videos so I already knew what Jesse had on the show.
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It's called TELEVISION you dumbasses.

THIS is the way it works - Someone comes up with an idea. If they work for a network, and that's their job then it goes to the head of development. If that person likes it, it either goes to pilot or to the head of the network. If the head of the network likes it, it goes to pilot. They make one show.

After making the show, which will cost anywhere between, $120,000/half hour on cable, $240,000/hour on cable (can be more depending on the cost of talent, writer, Executive Producers) or twice those amounts(and up) for network, it is tested.

They bring in people to sit in a room and watch the pilot and give feedback. They make the appropriate changes and retest. If they like their feedback, it gets what's called "an order". An order can be for a few shows, half season(usually)-13 episodes, or a full season - 26 episodes.

At this point it usually get's outsourced to various production companies which have a "show runner", or Executive Producer that has track record for making "quality"(subjective) shows. For example, there's a show called Find My Family, which is made by a company in Hollywood and a Show Runner who was the Show Runner on Extreme Home Makeover.

In the end it's all about one thing, advertising dollars. Everyone down the chain is there to make the shows profitable - PERIOD. If the show is watched, the amount of advertising dollar is dependent to a degree on the market that it's in. So if it's a 30 minute show, it's actually on 23 minutes of actual show and 7 minutes of advertising, or 14/30's meaning 14 :30 second spots.

On network, these spots generate cash which is equal to the number of people in those cities (Cable is a bit different). Ratings are based on the country being split into approximately 230 cities, and each city has a rating number that goes up or down depending on the population. So Los Angeles and New York are considered number 1 and 2(could be switched) while a city like Lubbock, might be number 228. LA's ad rate per :30 on network primetime might run $3500/commercial. That's $7000 a minute x 7 or $49,000 a show in ad sales. Depending on the show, each city usually buys the show, and then that market sells ad time to pay for the show and make a profit.

So if a show sells to 100 markets at $10,000, the show is paid $1,000,000 a week to air. If it costs the network $750,000 to make the show, then the have a profit and make more $$ in re-runs to recoup their costs.

If a show is watched and is profitable, then the person(s) who came up with the show, that directed, produced, blah blah blah, will get 2 things, more work from that show and the chance to bring more original programming. If the show isn't watched, they are FIRED. So everyone wants a TV show to succeed and no matter how conspiracy oriented you want to be about what you watch, know that the ones in charge are not being paid by some secret society, they are getting paid based on your viewership. Because viewership x advertising = PROFIT. And Profit = job security.

Glenn Beck is on Fox because? He makes them money. Keith Olberman is on MSNBC because? He makes them money.

So if you don't like Jesse, don't watch. It'll be off the air in no time.
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12/03/2009 01:01 PM
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bump

We need more research on this one. Was this a planned Black ops?

Hey Jesse, what about chem trails? What about the bioweapon vaccines? etc...
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bump

We need more research on this one. Was this a planned Black ops?

Hey Jesse, what about chem trails? What about the bioweapon vaccines? etc...
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I believe so. They are so adamant about shutting down the internet right now (Cyber Space Law) why was it he was even saying this in the media, maybe an FYI for the useless eaters but more so to make conspiracy theorists look like idiots!
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Some already are and some have yet to be, but as you count days, let’s just say not many, no dates as usual, that of course, is known to all of you so there’s no surprises there. Now as to specifics, I know you want specifics, well let’s just say that there is a new breath of air blowing particularly in that place you lovingly and joyfully and in a fun kind of manner refer to as ‘Across the Pond’. There is a breath blowing there that is such a bright light, it is never going to be dimmed. In other words, it will not be stopped. It will only continue to glow and glow and glow. And it is not just for the people of what you call it 'merry old England,' it is for the people of the continent of Europe, and then it will sweep its way into the Middle E ast and into the Far East as you call it, your geography is wonderful is it not. And of course it’s already burning brightly in the lands of Australia, Canada, your neighbors to the south (some of them), and there’s just not any place in the world that is not going to be infused with this reinvigorating kind of light. It’s the light born of love, it’s the light of the twin flames coming together, it’s the light that sets the world free. And we are not just talking about freedom from slavery of the body, we are talking about freedom from dogmas of the mind which have enslaved. We are talking about abundance. Now you may be wondering why we are spending so much time on that. Well it is simply that that is one very, very real sign if you will, or guideline or guidepost that points the way to what is happening. So you see it is not going to be just the United States of America, it’s going to be worldwide. It already is!



Now for those of you who may have begun to doubt Obama, you know that there is a relatively small but very vocal group out there who are doing anything and everything they can to hang on. They’re disseminating lies and untruths, taking things out of context and making it seem as though Obama is the reason the world is in such trouble. Stop please, and remember this started long ago. It actually originated on the continent on Europe, long ago, before you came into these bodies, well, there’s a few of you who have been around longer but we’ll just leave it at that. So it is to correct, to turn-around, to put into balance, to bring into harmony all that has been out of balance, enslaving and demeaning and diminishing to the human spirit for so long. Obama, once again we want to remind you, is giving those of his advisors or inn er circle whatever you want to call it, enough rope to you know what. And also, be advised there are those who have been either consciously acting as double agents all along, even some since before Obama came into office, or have come to the light and are now, shall we say, ready to spill their guts and tell all that they know. And it’s coming out perhaps in trickles. Now you have probably all seen somewhere in your lifetimes the image of a dyke in the land of Holland, part of a system of walls that hold the sea back from flooding the country because Holland, or the Netherlands, as you know, is a low-lying country. Parts of it are actually below sea level so the people ingeniously built these dykes, and they have them elsewhere, dams they are called, in the United States of America. And you have all seen some courageous individual putting their finger into the dyke and pretty soon, especially if you watch the cartoony version, they have all their fingers, and then pretty soon all their toes and all these little leaks in the dyke and, of course what has to happen is eventually the dyke falls apart. Well now picture the typical dark hat being, let’s take a banker, let’s take one of these CEO’s, you know, the ones who have already been rounded up or being rounded up, and they are doing everything they can to survive because they know that if that dyke, which is the wall of lies and entrapments and snares and so on that they have created for you, Beloved Ones, that wall is breached, they are on the other side of it trying to hold it together, and they are going to be literally swept away.



So picture that and send some love light to the dark hats and invite them to simply get out of the way, come to the light and feel better. Doesn’t it always feel better when you tell your neighbor that you accidentally ran over their prize rose bush in the driveway? Doesn’t it feel better when you go and tell them that that was you and you feel badly and you will help them plant a new rose bush or whatever it is. Contrition is a beautiful thing and there are many, many who are wearing the dark hats who are now wishing that they weren’t. They actually have opened to see that there is a better way. So give them some support and encouragement even though they may still lack the courage. And that is what it is, the courage and the determination to find a way to turn off the programs that they volunteered for original ly, but they have been overwhelmed by them to the point where they no longer have control of themselves and the way that they live their lives. They are so programmed they simply have to do what their programming dictates. And if you have any inkling of pity, don’t pity them. After all you have been a co-creator of the entire scenario, probably wore a dark hat, well, let’s say you did for sure at some time or other, but not to the extent of these ones. You may have done something dark in a previous life. If you haven’t forgiven yourselves, do so now.


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bump

We need more research on this one. Was this a planned Black ops?

Hey Jesse, what about chem trails? What about the bioweapon vaccines? etc...

I believe so. They are so adamant about shutting down the internet right now (Cyber Space Law) why was it he was even saying this in the media, maybe an FYI for the useless eaters but more so to make conspiracy theorists look like idiots!
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If they shut down the internet then there will be a undeground internet, "you cannot put the cat back to the bag". Everything what the government try to control, onlything it does is open a black market for it.

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he says enough conspiracy in the last 10 years, he doesn't need Kennedy...
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Jesse knows from being a navy seal that you would need a security clearance to enter any military run complex, so it was show, he new he wasn't going to get in there. Most likely need a secret or maybe even top secret. I know i had to have a secret clearance in the service.
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LOL why do these shows always try to sound tough and hard core. They end up just sounding and looking extremely stupid.

I understand they are marketing to those that enjoy this type of entertainment but come on, it just likes like crap.
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Who is the target audience for this show? The world hopping, gate-crashing stuff is pure hype. Break it up into short, punchy segments, and interrupt frequently with advertising. It was certainly not a high-brow, intellectual approach.


On the other hand, they covered the points pretty well. The origins of the technology, the high-school science class demo of weather manipulation, the government's monopolization and secrecy, the potential for use as a weapon and for mind-control.

They did not break the veil of secrecy surrounding Haarp. They merely showed what the questions are. We own it. We paid for it, yet we are in the dark concerning it's actual/intended usage.

I give the show a B for bad acting.
 Quoting: htp,nli 686272

I couldn't agree more. The part with Nick Begich should have been longer too. If they were smart, they would lose the "cutting edge" edits (choppy) and gimmicks. Use the time saved, by losing those two extraneous bits, to provide more info about the subject. Give us more substance and less style.
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I thought it was a good show. Many of the dumb as public have no idea what's going on. So if it is sugar coated so what? at least it get's people to look at the government in a whole new light. So don't knock'em.
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That facility is old technology. They are using something else to electrify the ionosphere. It is about climate control.





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