Supernova in 1054 A.D. exposes Catholic Church and helps explain the OZONE problem

Raphael,

You are partly right!

So don't be angry and stop the cursing and vulgarity. Your mother would be ashamed of you if she knew. It doesn't help you look any wiser. You are trying to offend, fine, I got it.

Texas A & M Law Professor Fredrick Larson believes the
Bethlehem Star is a planetary conjunction of Venus and
Jupiter, both of them appearing as one star.

I share below, others believe the same who may not be Christian.

I thank you for this thread, otherwise I wouldn't of watched the Youtubes. I kept hearing of Larson on Catholic radio and was meaning to check it out, you helped me. Professor Larson is a non-Catholic Christian, how neat he has discovered and pointed out Catholic teaching in researching the Star of Bethlehem.

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...The guiding star that led the three wise men, or magi, to the birthplace of Jesus Christ is one of the most lasting symbols of biblical mythology.

News editor of Sky and Space magazine Dave Reneke says complex charting software has allowed astronomers to map the night sky as it would have appeared more than 2000 years ago and has revealed a spectacular astronomical event at the time of Jesus' birth.

"It's like a digital map where we can move forward in time as well as backwards," Mr Reneke explained.

Generally accepted research has places the nativity to somewhere between 3BC and 1AD.

Using the Bible book of Matthew as a reference point, Mr Reneke pinpointed the planetary conjunction to an exact date in 2BC.

Similar to the planetary alignment of the "smiley face" witnessed across the Western sky last week, he said a "beacon of light" would have been visible across the eastern dawn sky as Venus and Jupiter moved across the constellation of Leo on June 17, 2BC.

The conjunction of the planets was so close, he said the planets would have appeared as one bright star even with the naked eye.

"It's called a star but it's really a planet," Mr Reneke said.

"They could easily have mistaken it for one bright star. Astronomy is such a precise science, we can plot exactly where the planets were. It certainly seems this is the fabled Christmas star."

Theories of such a conjunction have competed with speculation the star was caused by a supernova, an exploding star, or even a comet.

By narrowing the date down, Mr Reneke said the technology has provided the most compelling explanation yet.

Asked why the mystery held such significance, Mr Reneke said the story of the Christmas star is of particular emotional significance.

"It cuts to the heart of what it means to be human beings," he said

"Often when we mix science with religion in this kind of forum, it can upset people. In this case, I think this could serve to reinforce people's faith."

why don't you stop being a christian dick then?
eh?
really no better than the fucking catholics you christian bible babbler.

In 1054 Catholic Fathers hid the source of SN 1054.
And today the Christians plebes are being flushed out of the Vatican by the apparent fucking lies.



That is nice.
Shall we talk about the esoteric symbolism behind the planet VENUS you non catholic christian IGNORANT plebe?

EH?
Here is an example...
Pay attention IGNORANT bible babbler...you are about to enter another hole that few bible babblers like to enter.
Venus is connected to MORNING and EVENING stars.
Venus is connected to the 5 pointed MORNING star called the pentagram and the 8-pointed EVENING star.
The ratio of 5:8 and 8:5 are the phi/Phi ratios.
This represent's NATURE's spiral re: Fibonacci and logarithmic growth.

And we connect the 5x5 magic square to both the Sator/Templar magic square and the 5x5 Magic Square of Mars...
And the 8x8 magic square we can link to Mercury (messenger/planet), St. Peter's Square and the I-Ching, which is the Chinese bible/book of changes.



Larson has NOT discovered anything.
DUHHHHHHHH
Larson is only HELPING to RECOVER a UNIVERSAL TRUTH veiled by ALL self-serving bible babblers, and temple priests...who embedded these TRUTHS into their chosen poster boy superSTAR.
Larson would have been burned at the stake if he explored the stars the way he does, back in 1054 A.D.

Larson is only helping to PROVE that the entire jesus narrative is a ruse, a celestial based narrative.
CAN'T YOU READ BETWEEN THE LINES?
DUHHHHHHHHH
In the end Larson will HELP prove that jesus is an ARCHETYPE.
DUHHHHHHHHH



Exactly and the herd of fucking sheeple are only waking up to the more profound meanings.
Duh go back to shleep dude.
Your herd is just awakening from the DARK AGES...with all of you today pointing your telescopes to the heavens...the way the astrologers/astronomers always HAVE.

And going wow wow wow wow .........

LIKE THE PERSIANS and CHINESE and the ANASAZI probably were, while the judeao/christians were in the midst of the DARK AGES....
And the Chinese, Persian, ameri-Indian beliefs are ALL inferior to the Christian wankers eh?
Ya sure.
YOU GOT PROOF?
I GOT PROOF Judeao/Christians are IGNORANT SOBs who with much belligerence have been staging holycauses and holycausts.



More proof of the JC hypocrite, what a bunch of HEATHEN fucking Christians.
Behaving like the HEATHENS they claimed they saved in the name of Jesus in the americas...
Now they are behaving just like the folks they slaughtered while they were saving them...even trading small-pox infested blankets to help keep the heathens warm.

Today the judaeo/Christian wankers are looking toward the Sun, Moon and Stars for answers.
Just like the HEATHENS.

Fucking religious plebes, in the END, will be exposed for the hypocrites they are, and have been ALL THROUGH HIS-story.



Duhhhh twisted fucking logic...right till the end.

Everything Reneke says is NOT proof of Jesus.
DUH
If you want to use astrology and astronomy to solve and give proof of Jesus ... because ALL other physical proof HAS INDEED FAILED ... then guess what?

The religious plebes will SOON need to admit defeat.
The religious plebes will SOON need to admit defeat.
The religious plebes will SOON need to admit defeat.
WHY?

Because we can then ENTER into evidence the TAROT if the sheeple people want to start using astronomy/astrology to prove the existence of the superSTAR jesus.

The Tarot has been connected by SCHOLARS to the KABBALAH and the KABBALAH has been connected to the Torah by SCHOLARS.
Yes the Torah/Old Testament that predates the Christian crappola.

Thus it is clear ALL the SCHOLARS, science or biblical are looking to the HEAVENS, along with the HEATHENS.

And please stop suggesting my MOTHER would be ashamed of my language.
Guess what?
The universal FATHER and MOTHER are going to give the fucking belligerent war mongering Judeao/Christian plebes HELL for the way they have behaved throughout HIS-story, butchering their brothers and sisters, using the 'lord's name in vain'.

Get the fuck out of IRAQ...
APOLOGIZE to the WORLD Judaeo/Christian devils...
There is a TWIST at the end of your tails.

AMEN

I want to take credit for that post above, because I wrote it.

[link to 2012forum.com]
here is another thread, on another forum, without the vulgarity, showing how SUPERNOVAS were recorded by the ancients, who 'thought' differently than the Church Fathers who did NOT record it.

It is real insight.
Not the hindsight that the Judeao/Christians are recovering by looking through their telescopes, looking back in time.

oops I also forgot to add that the the SWASTIKA and the 8x8 square was used as a solution for Pi.
IMAGE:
[link to i98.photobucket.com]
[link to www.davidicke.com]

A solution to Pi that ante-dates Freemasonry.
That means it came BEFORE the LIAR LIAR LIAR club of Rome was established.

here is a big part of the truth, the symbol that provides the twist at the end of the judeao/christian tale of woe is mi...

S W A S T I K A, along with phi are two of the LAWS OF NATURE being VEILed by EVIL, from the herd of christian sheeple who were formerly of pagan stock.
OBVIOUSLY.

namaste

Raphael

Last Edited by Raphael on 12/30/2009 02:25 PM

Linking truths to beliefs does not make the beliefs true. That would be a logical fallacy! Shed your beliefs, forget all that you know, if but a moment, and maybe then you can understand what I mean. You use truth and lies interchangeably so could you do me a favour and just tell me what you hope to gain from this? What is it that you are seeking exactly. Confirmation of a belief or are you after knowledge and understanding?

I present two great posts ... full of information, willing to debate, I provide links and everything...
And then IGNORANCE comes a calling again, and fails to address one issue, instead in the sublime nature of the plebe...they change the subject in the OP to discussing the MESSENGER.

Let me introduce the plebe:



Linking truths to beliefs.
Linking truths to beliefs.
Linking truths to beliefs.
Linking truths to beliefs.
Linking truths to beliefs.

Yes but what does it mean if the same truths show up in many beliefs?

case in point:
The SWASTIKA and phi...two profound concepts/laws of nature that the temple priests would NEED to veil from the pagan plebes that were being assimilated...into the herd.
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I want to discuss the title of the thread.
Xenus go back and read the OP.
You are too thick to follow along.
Some folks are so full of shit, they can't see the obvious.

And why don't you stop with the fucking sermons?

one minute you are a light worker wanker and the next minute you are a preacher.
And in between being a wanker and preacher, what do you pretend to be?
Logical?

IF I am such a LIAR, and my info is nonsense, please SHARE WITH THE FOLKS WHAT MY LIES ARE?
QUOTE THEM, discuss them, shame me ... do it or shut up.

LIGHT worker wankers like yourself, are real good at doing cut and paste drivel, but any discussions you want to have hit the wailing wall real quick...please feel free to discuss any info I present.

Do it or shut up.
Do you think I take anything a reBLEATing plebe has to say to heart?

discuss what I offer...stay away from the messenger...
isn't that clear?

Discuss why the CHURCH missed this event.
BUT NOBODY ELSE DID?
IT SUGGESTS THE ENTIRE NARRATIVE IS A RUSE.

DISCUSS why nobody wants to discuss a real good source for why we are experiencing 'GLOBAL WEATHER CONCERNS'.

Do you have problems COMPREHENDING THE OBVIOUS XENUS?
I think so.
I know so.

namaste

Last Edited by Raphael on 12/30/2009 05:36 PM

so "namaste" aka Jehovah's Witness lets start trolling your thread

Kad ne ide milom onda cemo silom, Stara Balkanska narodna valjda od 20 Anno Domini

no problem
I can cut and paste with the best of them.

In the end, bits and pieces will filter through
and soon you will realize how big an asshole you really are for taking the side of ignorance.

the argument is simple
there was a supernova in 1054 A.D.
we got hit with a gamma ray burst...

and it was not until 2009 that SCIENCE confirmed AND exposed the RUSE.

the CATHOLIC CHURCH used the SN 1054 (which lasted 653 days/nights), as a celestial event to help manipulate the HERD.
CLEARLY.

the CATHOLIC CHURCH also called a conjunction between Jupiter and Venus the Star of Bethlehem.

the CATHOLIC CHURCH called the Persian FOUR ROYAL STARS, the 4 Gospels, the 4 Beasts, the 4 Evangelists.

CLEARLY this LIAR LIAR club of ROME needs to be hauled out into a court of inquiry.

But far more interesting will be is if...
they ignore this evidence and institute a new TAX on the CARBON LIFE forms, blaming the weather all on us, and ignoring the evidence in the ICE CORES.

So is BIG BROTHER going to TAX the ignorant dopes, you and me and the aSSholes who are trolling this thread?

Clearly the aSSholes are running this asylum?

namaste

so you said it, your message is out....
whay are you behave like Jehovah's Witnesses?
is that sexual thing?

maybe you are right is so without imagination
lets be creative;


Your favorite stuff;
leta start

Knjiga Postanka
I. POČECI SVIJETA I ČOVJEČANSTVA 1. STVARANJE SVIJETA Prvi izvještaj o stvaranju
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1U početku stvori Bog nebo i zemlju. 2 Zemlja bijaše pusta i prazna; tama se prostirala nad bezdanom i Duh Božji lebdio je nad vodama. 3 I reče Bog: "Neka bude svjetlost!" I bi svjetlost. 4 I vidje Bog da je svjetlost dobra; i rastavi Bog svjetlost od tame. 5 Svjetlost prozva Bog dan, a tamu prozva noć. Tako bude večer, pa jutro - dan prvi. 6 I reče Bog: "Neka bude svod posred voda da dijeli vode od voda!" I bi tako. 7 Bog načini svod i vode pod svodom odijeli od voda nad svodom. 8 A svod prozva Bog nebo. Tako bude večer, pa jutro - dan drugi. 9 I reče Bog: "Vode pod nebom neka se skupe na jedno mjesto i neka se pokaže kopno!" I bi tako. 10 Kopno prozva Bog zemlja, a skupljene vode mora. I vidje Bog da je dobro. 11 I reče Bog: "Neka proklija zemlja zelenilom - travom sjemenitom, stablima plodonosnim, koja, svako prema svojoj vrsti, na zemlji donose plod što u sebi nosi svoje sjeme. I bi tako. 12 I nikne iz zemlje zelena trava što se sjemeni, svaka prema svojoj vrsti, i stabla koja rode plodovima što u sebi nose svoje sjeme, svako prema svojoj vrsti. I vidje Bog da je dobro. 13 Tako bude večer, pa jutro - dan treći. 14 I reče Bog: "Neka budu svjetlila na svodu nebeskom da luče dan od noći, da budu znaci blagdanima, danima i godinama, 15 i neka svijetle na svodu nebeskom i rasvjetljuju zemlju!" I bi tako. 16 I načini Bog dva velika svjetlila - veće da vlada danom, manje da vlada noću - i zvijezde. 17 I Bog ih postavi na svod nebeski da rasvjetljuju zemlju, 18 da vladaju danom i noću i da rastavljaju svjetlost od tame. I vidje Bog da je dobro. 19 Tako bude večer, pa jutro - dan četvrti. 21 Stvori Bog morske grdosije i svakovrsne žive stvorove što mile i vrve vodom i ptice krilate svake vrste. I vidje Bog da je dobro. 22 I blagoslovi ih govoreći: "Plodite se i množite i napunite vode morske! I ptice neka se namnože na zemlji!" 23 Tako bude večer, pa jutro - dan peti. 24 I reče Bog: "Neka zemlja izvede živa bića, svako prema svojoj vrsti: stoku, gmizavce i zvjerad svake vrste!" I bi tako. 25 I stvori Bog svakovrsnu zvjerad, stoku i gmizavce svake vrste. I vidje Bog da je dobro. 26 I reče Bog: "Načinimo čovjeka na svoju sliku, sebi slična, da bude gospodar ribama morskim, pticama nebeskim i stoci - svoj zemlji - i svim gmizavcima što puze po zemlji!" 27 Na svoju sliku stvori Bog čovjeka, na sliku Božju on ga stvori, muško i žensko stvori ih. 28 I blagoslovi ih Bog i reče im: "Plodite se, i množite, i napunite zemlju, i sebi je podložite! Vladajte ribama u moru i pticama u zraku i svim živim stvorovima što puze po zemlji!" 29 I doda Bog: "Evo, dajem vam sve bilje što se sjemeni, po svoj zemlji, i sva stabla plodonosna što u sebi nose svoje sjeme: neka vam budu za hranu! 30 A zvijerima na zemlji i pticama u zraku i gmizavcima što puze po zemlji u kojima je dah života - neka je za hranu sve zeleno bilje!" I bi tako. 31idje Bog sve što je učinio, i bijaše veoma dobro. Tako bude večer, pa jutro - dan šesti.
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1Tako bude dovršeno nebo i zemlja sa svom svojom vojskom. 2 I sedmoga dana Bog dovrši svoje djelo koje učini. I počinu u sedmi dan od svega djela koje učini. 3 I blagoslovi Bog sedmi dan i posveti, jer u taj dan počinu od svega djela svoga koje učini. 4 To je postanak neba i zemlje, tako su stvarani. Drugi izvještaj o stvaranju - Raj zemaljski Kad je Jahve, Bog, sazdao nebo i zemlju, 5 još nije bilo nikakva poljskoga grmlja po zemlji, još ne bijaše niklo nikakvo poljsko bilje, jer Jahve, Bog, još ne pusti dažda na zemlju i nije bilo čovjeka da zemlju obrađuje. 6 Ipak, voda je izvirala iz zemlje i natapala svu površinu zemaljsku. 7 Jahve, Bog, napravi čovjeka od praha zemaljskog i u nosnice mu udahne dah života. Tako postane čovjek živa duša. 8 I Jahve, Bog, zasadi vrt na istoku, u Edenu, i u nj smjesti čovjeka koga je napravio. 9 Tada Jahve, Bog, učini te iz zemlje nikoše svakovrsna stabla - pogledu zamamljiva a dobra za hranu - i stablo života, nasred vrta, i stablo spoznaje dobra i zla. 10 Rijeka je izvirala iz Edena da bi natapala vrt; odatle se granala u četiri kraka. 11 Prvom je ime Pišon, a optječe svom zemljom havilskom, u kojoj ima zlata. 12 Zlato je te zemlje dobro, a ima ondje i bdelija i oniksa. 13 Drugoj je rijeci ime Gihon, a optječe svu zemlju Kuš. 14 Treća je rijeka Tigris, a teče na istok od Ašura; četvrta je Eufrat. 15 Jahve, Bog, uzme čovjeka i postavi ga u edenski vrt da ga obrađuje i čuva. 16 Jahve, Bog, zapovjedi čovjeku: "Sa svakoga stabla u vrtu slobodno jedi, 17 ali sa stabla spoznaje dobra i zla da nisi jeo! U onaj dan u koji s njega okusiš, zacijelo ćeš umrijeti!" 18 I reče Jahve, Bog: "Nije dobro da čovjek bude sam: načinit ću mu pomoć kao što je on." 19 Tada Jahve, Bog, načini od zemlje sve životinje u polju i sve ptice u zraku i predvede ih čovjeku da vidi kako će koju nazvati, pa kako koje stvorenje čovjek prozove, da mu tako bude ime. 20 Čovjek nadjene imena svoj stoci, svim pticama u zraku i životinjama u polju. No čovjeku se ne nađe pomoć kao što je on. 21 Tada Jahve, Bog, pusti tvrd san na čovjeka te on zaspa, pa mu izvadi jedno rebro, a mjesto zatvori mesom. 22 Od rebra što ga je uzeo čovjeku napravi Jahve, Bog, ženu pa je dovede čovjeku. 23 Nato čovjek reče: "Gle, evo kosti od mojih kostiju, mesa od mesa mojega! Ženom neka se zove, od čovjeka kad je uzeta!" 24 Stoga će čovjek ostaviti oca i majku da prione uza svoju ženu i bit će njih dvoje jedno tijelo. 25ijahu oboje goli - čovjek i njegova žena - ali ne osjećahu stida. Prvi čovjekov grijeh
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1Zmija bijaše lukavija od sve zvjeradi što je stvori Jahve, Bog. Ona reče ženi: "Zar vam je Bog rekao da ne smijete jesti ni s jednog drveta u vrtu?" 2 Žena odgovori zmiji: "Plodove sa stabala u vrtu smijemo jesti. 4 Nato će zmija ženi: "Ne, nećete umrijeti! 5 Nego, zna Bog: onog dana kad budete s njega jeli, otvorit će vam se oči, i vi ćete biti kao bogovi koji razlučuju dobro i zlo." 6 Vidje žena da je stablo dobro za jelo, za oči zamamljivo, a za mudrost poželjno: ubere ploda njegova i pojede. Dade i svom mužu, koji bijaše s njom, pa je i on jeo. 7 Tada se obadvoma otvore oči i upoznaju da su goli. Spletu smokova lišća i naprave sebi pregače. 8 Uto čuju korak Jahve, Boga, koji je šetao vrtom za dnevnog povjetarca. I sakriju se - čovjek i njegova žena - pred Jahvom, Bogom, među stabla u vrtu. 9 Jahve, Bog, zovne čovjeka: "Gdje si?" - reče mu. 10 On odgovori: "Čuo sam tvoj korak po vrtu; pobojah se jer sam go, pa se sakrih." 11 Nato mu reče: "Tko ti kaza da si go? Ti si, dakle, jeo sa stabla s kojega sam ti zabranio jesti?" 12 Čovjek odgovori: "Žena koju si stavio uza me - ona mi je dala sa stabla pa sam jeo." 13 Jahve, Bog, reče ženi: "Što si to učinila?" "Zmija me prevarila pa sam jela", odgovori žena. 14 Nato Jahve, Bog, reče zmiji: "Kad si to učinila, prokleta bila među svim životinjama i svom zvjeradi divljom! Po trbuhu svome puzat ćeš i zemlju jesti sveg života svog! 15 Neprijateljstvo ja zamećem između tebe i žene, između roda tvojeg i roda njezina: on će ti glavu satirati, a ti ćeš mu vrebati petu." 16 A ženi reče: "Trudnoći tvojoj muke ću umnožit, u mukama djecu ćeš rađati. Žudnja će te mužu tjerati, a on će gospodariti nad tobom." 17 A čovjeku reče: "Jer si poslušao glas svoje žene te jeo sa stabla s kojega sam ti zabranio jesti rekavši: S njega da nisi jeo! - evo: Zemlja neka je zbog tebe prokleta: s trudom ćeš se od nje hraniti svega vijeka svog! 18 Rađat ć e ti trnjem i korovom, a hranit ćeš se poljskim raslinjem. 19 U znoju lica svoga kruh svoj ćeš jesti dokle se u zemlju ne vratiš: tÓa iz zemlje uzet si bio - prah si, u prah ćeš se i vratiti." 20 Svojoj ženi čovjek nadjene ime Eva, jer je majka svima živima. 21 I načini Jahve, Bog, čovjeku i njegovoj ženi odjeću od krzna pa ih odjenu. 22 Zatim reče Bog: "Evo, čovjek postade kao jedan od nas - znajući dobro i zlo! Da ne bi sada pružio ruku, ubrao sa stabla života pa pojeo i živio navijeke!" 23 Zato ga Jahve, Bog, istjera iz vrta edenskoga da obrađuje zemlju iz koje je i uzet. 24jera, dakle, čovjeka i nastani ga istočno od vrta edenskog, pa postavi kerubine i plameni mač koji se svjetlucao - da straže nad stazom koja vodi k stablu života. Kajin i Abel
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1Čovjek pozna svoju ženu Evu, a ona zače i rodi Kajina, pa reče: "Muško sam čedo stekla pomoću Jahve!" 2 Poslije rodi Abela, brata Kajinova; Abel postane stočar, a Kajin zemljoradnik. 3 I jednoga dana Kajin prinese Jahvi žrtvu od zemaljskih plodova. 4 A prinese i Abel od prvine svoje stoke, sve po izbor pretilinu. Jahve milostivo pogleda na Abela i njegovu žrtvu, 5 a na Kajina i žrtvu njegovu ni pogleda ne svrati. Stoga se Kajin veoma razljuti i lice mu se namrgodi. 6 I Jahve reče Kajinu: "Zašto si ljut? Zašto ti je lice namrgođeno? 7 Jer ako pravo radiš, vedrinom odsijevaš. A ne radiš li pravo, grijeh ti je kao zvijer na pragu što na te vreba; još mu se možeš oduprijeti." 8 Kajin pak reče svome bratu Abelu: "Hajdemo van!" I našavši se na polju, Kajin skoči na brata Abela te ga ubi. 9 Potom Jahve zapita Kajina: "Gdje ti je brat Abel?" "Ne znam", odgovori. "Zar sam ja čuvar brata svoga?" 10 Jahve nastavi: "Što si učinio? Slušaj! Krv brata tvoga iz zemlje k meni viče. 11 Stoga budi proklet na zemlji koja je rastvorila usta da proguta s ruke tvoje krv brata tvoga! 12 Obrađivat ćeš zemlju, ali ti više neće davati svoga roda. Vječni ćeš skitalica na zemlji biti!" 13 A Kajin reče Jahvi: "Kazna je moja odviše teška da se snosi. 14 Evo me tjeraš danas s plodnoga tla; moram se skrivati od tvoga lica i biti vječni lutalac na zemlji - tko me god nađe, može me ubiti." 15 A Jahve mu reče: "Ne! Nego tko ubije Kajina, sedmerostruka osveta na njemu će se izvršiti!" I Jahve stavi znak na Kajina, da ga tko, našavši ga, ne ubije. 16 Kajin ode ispred lica Jahvina u zemlju Nod, istočno od Edena, i ondje se nastani. Kajinovo potomstvo 17 Kajin pozna svoju ženu te ona zače i rodi Henoka. Podigao je grad i grad prozvao imenom svoga sina - Henok. 18 Henoku se rodio Irad, a od Irada potekao Mehujael; od Mehujaela poteče Metušael, od Metušaela Lamek. 19 Lamek uzme dvije žene. Jedna se zvala Ada, a druga Sila. 20 Ada rodi Jabala, koji je postao praocem onih što pod šatorima žive sa stokom. 21 Bratu mu bijaše ime Jubal. On je praotac svih koji sviraju na liru i sviralu. 22 Sila rodi Tubal-Kajina, praoca onih koji kuju bakar i željezo. Tubal-Kajinovoj sestri bijaše ime Naama. 23 Lamek prozbori svojim ženama: "Ada i Sila, glas moj poslušajte! Žene Lamekove, čujte mi besjedu: Čovjeka sam ubio jer me ranio i dijete jer me udarilo. 24 Ako će Kajin biti osvećen sedmerostruko, Lamek će sedamdeset i sedam puta!" Šet i njegovo potomstvo 25 Adam pozna svoju ženu te ona rodi sina i nadjenu mu ime Šet. Reče ona: "Bog mi dade drugo dijete mjesto Abela, koga ubi Kajin." 26u se rodi sin, komu on nadjenu ime Enoš. Tada se počelo zazivati ime Jahvino. Patrijarsi prije Potopa
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1Ovo je povijest Adamova roda. Kad je Bog stvorio čovjeka, napravio ga je na priliku svoju; 2 stvorio je muško i žensko. A kad ih je stvorio, blagoslovi ih i nazva - čovjek. 3 Kad je Adamu bilo sto i trideset godina, rodi mu se sin njemu sličan, na njegovu sliku; nadjenu mu ime Šet. 4 Po rođenju Šetovu Adam je živio osam stotina godina te mu se rodilo još sinova i kćeri. 5 Adam poživje u svemu devet stotina i trideset godina. Potom umrije. 6 Kad je Šetu bilo sto i pet godina, rodi mu se Enoš. 7 Po rođenju Enoševu Šet je živio osam stotina i sedam godina te mu se rodilo još sinova i kćeri. 8 Šet poživje u svemu devet stotina i dvanaest godina. Potom umrije. 9 Kad je Enošu bilo devedeset godina, rodi mu se Kenan. 10 Po rođenju Kenanovu Enoš je živio osam stotina i petnaest godina te mu se rodilo još sinova i kćeri. 11 Enoš poživje u svemu devet stotina i pet godina. Potom umrije. 12 Kad je Kenanu bilo sedamdeset godina, rodi mu se Mahalalel. 13 Po rođenju Mahalalelovu Kenan je živio osam stotina i četrdeset godina te mu se rodilo još sinova i kćeri. 14 Kenan poživje u svemu devet stotina i deset godina. Potom umrije. 15 Kad je Mahalalelu bilo šezdeset i pet godina, rodi mu se Jered. 16 Po rođenju Jeredovu Mahalalel je živio osam stotina i trideset godina te mu se rodilo još sinova i kćeri. 17 Mahalalel poživje u svemu osam stotina devedeset i pet godina. Potom umrije. 18 Kad je Jeredu bilo sto šezdeset i dvije godine, rodi mu se Henok. 19 Po rođenju Henokovu Jered je živio osam stotina godina te mu se rodilo još sinova i kćeri. 20 Jered poživje u svemu devet stotina šezdeset i dvije godine. Potom umrije. 21 Kad je Henoku bilo šezdeset i pet godina, rodi mu se Metušalah. 22 Henok je hodio s Bogom. Po rođenju Metušalahovu Henok je živio trista godina te mu se rodilo još sinova i kćeri. 23 Henok poživje u svemu trista šezdeset i pet godina. 24 Henok je hodio s Bogom, potom iščeznu; Bog ga uze. 25 Kad je Metušalahu bilo sto osamdeset i sedam godina, rodi mu se Lamek. 25 26) Po rođenju Lamekovu Metušalah je živio sedam stotina osamdeset i dvije godine te mu se rodilo još sinova i kćeri. 27 Metušalah poživje u svemu devet stotina šezdeset i devet godina. Potom umrije. 28 Kad su Lameku bile sto osamdeset i dvije godine, rodi mu se sin. 29 Nadjene mu ime Noa, govoreći: "Ovaj će nam pribavljati, u trudu i naporu naših ruku, utjehu iz zemlje koju je Bog prokleo." 30 Po rođenju Noinu Lamek je živio pet stotina devedeset i pet godina te mu se rodilo još sinova i kćeri. 31 Lamek poživje u svemu sedam stotina sedamdeset i sedam godina. Potom umrije. 32to je Noa proživio pet stotina godina, rode mu se Šem, Ham i Jafet. 2. POTOP Pokvarenost ljudi
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1Kad su se ljudi počeli širiti po zemlji i kćeri im se narodile, 2 opaze sinovi Božji da su kćeri ljudske pristale, pa ih uzimahu sebi za žene koje su god htjeli. 3 Onda Jahve reče: "Neće moj duh u čovjeku ostati dovijeka; čovjek je tjelesan, pa neka mu vijek bude stotinu dvadeset godina." 4 U ona su vremena - a i kasnije - na zemlji bili Nefili, kad su Božji sinovi općili s ljudskim kćerima pa im one rađale djecu. To su oni od starine po snazi glasoviti ljudi. 5 Vidje Jahve kako je čovjekova pokvarenost na zemlji velika i kako je svaka pomisao u njegovoj pameti uvijek samo zloća. 6 Jahve se pokaja i u svom srcu ražalosti što je načinio čovjeka na zemlji. 7 Reče Jahve: "Ljude koje sam stvorio izbrisat ću s lica zemlje - od čovjeka do zvijeri, puzavce i ptice u zraku - jer sam se pokajao što sam ih napravio." 8 Ali je Noa našao milost u očima Jahvinim. 9 Ovo je povijest Noina: Noa je bio čovjek pravedan i neporočan u svom vremenu. S Bogom je Noa hodio. 10 Tri su se sina rodila Noi: Šem, Ham i Jafet. Noa sprema lađu 11 U očima Božjim zemlja se bila iskvarila; nepravdom se napunila. 12 I kad je Bog vidio kako se zemlja iskvarila - tÓa svako se biće na zemlji izopačilo - 13 reče Bog Noi: "Odlučio sam da bude kraj svim bićima jer se zemlja napunila opačinom; i, evo, uništit ću ih zajedno sa zemljom. 14 Napravi sebi korablju od smolastoga drveta; korablju načini s prijekletima i obloži je iznutra i izvana paklinom. 15 A pravit ćeš je ovako: neka korablja bude trista lakata u duljinu, pedeset u širinu, a trideset lakata u visinu. 16 Na korablji načini otvor za svjetlo, završi ga jedan lakat od vrha. Vrata na korablji načini sa strane; neka ima donji, srednji i gornji kat. 17 Ja ću, evo, pustiti potop - vode na zemlju - da izgine svako biće pod nebom, sve u čemu ima dah života: sve na zemlji mora poginuti. 18 A s tobom ću učiniti Savez; ti ćeš ući u korablju - ti i s tobom tvoji sinovi, tvoja žena i žene tvojih sinova. 19 A od svega što je živo - od svih bića - uvedi u korablju od svakoga po dvoje da s tobom preživi, i neka budu muško i žensko. 20 Od ptica prema njihovim vrstama, od životinja prema njihovim vrstama i od svih stvorova što po tlu puze prema njihovim vrstama: po dvoje od svega neka uđe k tebi da preživi. 21 Sa sobom uzmi svega za jelo pa čuvaj da bude hrane tebi i njima." 22 učini tako. Sve kako mu je Bog naredio, tako je izvršio.
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1Onda Jahve reče Noi: "Uđi ti i sva tvoja obitelj u korablju, jer sam uvidio da si ti jedini preda mnom pravedan u ovom vremenu. 2 Uzmi sa sobom od svih čistih životinja po sedam parova: mužjaka i njegovu ženku. 3 Isto tako od ptica nebeskih po sedam parova - mužjaka i ženku - da im se sjeme sačuva na zemlji. 4 Jer ću do sedam dana pustiti dažd po zemlji četrdeset dana i četrdeset noći te ću istrijebiti s lica zemlje svako živo biće što sam ga načinio." 5 Noa učini sve kako mu je Jahve naredio. 6 Noi bijaše šest stotina godina kad je potop došao na zemlju. 7 I pred vodama potopnim uđu s Noom u korablju njegovi sinovi, njegova žena i žene sinova nje govih. 8 Od čistih životinja i od životinja koje nisu čiste, od ptica, od svega što zemljom puzi, 9 uđe po dvoje - mužjak i ženka - u korablju s Noom, kako je Bog naredio Noi. 10 A sedmoga dana zapljušte potopne vode po zemlji. Potop 11 U dan onaj - šestote godine Noina života, mjeseca drugog, dana u mjesecu sedamnaestog - navale svi izvori bezdana, rastvore se ustave nebeske. 12 I udari dažd na zemlju da pljušti četrdeset dana i četrdeset noći. 13 Onog dana uđe u korablju Noa i njegovi sinovi: Šem, Ham i Jafet, Noina žena i tri žene Noinih sinova s njima; 14 oni, pa sve vrste životinja: stoka, gmizavci što po tlu gmižu, ptice i svakovrsna krilata stvorenja, 15 uđu u korablju s Noom, po dvoje od svih bića što u sebi imaju dah života. 16 Što uđe, sve bijaše par, mužjak i ženka od svih bića, kako je Bog naredio Noi. Onda Jahve zatvori za njim vrata. 17 Pljusak je na zemlju padao četrdeset dana; vode sveudilj rasle i korablju nosile: digla se visoko iznad zemlje. 18 Vode su nad zemljom bujale i visoko rasle, a korablja plovila površinom. 19 Vode su sve silnije navaljivale i rasle nad zemljom, tako te prekriše sva najviša brda pod nebom. 20 Petnaest lakata dizale se vode povrh potonulih brda. 21 Izgiboše sva bića što se po zemlji kreću: ptice, stoka, zvijeri, svi gmizavci i svi ljudi. 22 Sve što u svojim nosnicama imaše dah života - sve što bijaše na kopnu - izgibe. 23 Istrijebi se svako biće s površja zemaljskog: čovjek, životinje, gmizavci i ptice nebeske, sve se izbrisa sa zemlje. Samo Noa ostade i oni što bijahu s njim u korablji. 24tinu pedeset dana vladahu vode zemljom. Prestanak potopa
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1Onda se Bog sjeti Noe, svih zvijeri i sve stoke što bijaše s njim u korablji, pa pokrenu vjetar nad zemljom da uzbije vodu. 2 Zatvoriše se izvori bezdanu i ustave nebeske, i dažd s neba prestade. 3 Polako se povlačile vode sa zemlje. Nakon stotinu pedeset dana vode su jenjale, 4 a sedmoga mjeseca, sedamnaestog dana u mjesecu korablja se zaustavi na brdima Ararata. 5 Vode su neprestano opadale do desetog mjeseca, a prvoga dana desetog mjeseca pokažu se brdski vrhunci. 6 Kad je izminulo četrdeset dana, Noa otvori prozor što ga je načinio na korablji; 7 ispusti gavrana, a gavran svejednako odlijetaše i dolijetaše dok se vode sa zemlje nisu isušile. 8 Zatim ispusti golubicu da vidi je li voda nestala sa zemlje. 9 Ali golubica ne nađe uporišta nogama te se vrati k njemu u korablju, jer voda još pokrivaše svu površinu; on pruži ruku, uhvati golubicu te je unese k sebi u korablju. 10 Počeka još sedam dana pa opet pusti golubicu iz korablje. 11 Prema večeri golubica se vrati k njemu, i gle! u kljunu joj svjež maslinov list; tako je Noa doznao da su opale vode sa zemlje. 12 Još počeka sedam dana pa opet pusti golubicu: više mu se nije vratila. 13 Šest stotina prve godine Noina života, prvoga mjeseca, prvog dana u mjesecu uzmakoše vode sa zemlje. Noa skine pokrov s korablje i pogleda: površina okopnjela. 14 A drugoga mjeseca, sedamnaestog dana u mjesecu, zemlja bijaše suha. Noa izlazi iz lađe 15 Tada Bog reče Noi: 16 "Iziđi iz korablje, ti, tvoja žena, tvoji sinovi i žene tvojih sinova s tobom. 17 Sa sobom izvedi sva živa bića, sva stvorenja što su s tobom: ptice, stoku i sve gmizavce što zemljom puze; neka zemljom vrve, plode se i na zemlji množe!" 18 I Noa iziđe, a s njime sinovi njegovi, žena njegova i žene sinova njegovih. 19 Sve životinje, svi gmizavci, sve ptice - svi stvorovi što se zemljom miču - iziđu iz korablje, vrsta za vrstom. 20 I podiže Noa žrtvenik Jahvi; uze od svih čistih životinja i od svih čistih ptica i prinese na žrtveniku žrtve paljenice. 21 Jahve omirisa miris ugodni pa reče u sebi: "Nikad više neću zemlju u propast strovaliti zbog čovjeka, tÓa čovječje su misli opake od njegova početka; niti ću ikad više uništiti sva živa stvorenja, kako sam učinio. 22 dok zemlje bude, sjetve, žetve, studeni, vrućine, ljeta, zime, dani, noći nikada prestati neće." Blagoslov i Savez
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1Tada Bog blagoslovi Nou i njegove sinove i reče im: "Plodite se i množite i zemlju napunite. 2 Neka vas se boje i od vas strahuju sve životinje na zemlji, sve ptice u zraku, sve što se po zemlji kreće i sve ribe u moru: u vaše su ruke predane. 3 Sve što se kreće i živi neka vam bude za hranu: sve vam dajem, kao što vam dadoh zeleno bilje. 4 Samo ne smijete jesti mesa u kojem je još duša, to jest njegova krv. 5 A za vašu krv, za vaš život, tražit ću obračun: tražit ću ga od svake životinje; i od čovjeka za njegova druga tražit ću obračun za ljudski život. 6 Tko prolije krv čovjekovu, njegovu će krv čovjek proliti! Jer na sliku Božju stvoren je čovjek! 7 A vi, plodite se, i množite i zemlju napunite, i podložite je sebi!" 8 Još reče Bog Noi i njegovim sinovima s njim: 9 "A ja, evo, sklapam svoj Savez s vama i s vašim potomstvom poslije vas 10 i sa svim živim stvorovima što su s vama: s pticama, sa stokom, sa zvijerima - sa svime što je s vama izišlo iz korablje - sa svim živim stvorovima na zemlji. 11 Držat ću se ja svog Saveza s vama te nikada više vode potopne neće uništiti živa bića niti će ikad više potop zemlju opustošiti." 12 I reče Bog: "A ovo znamen je Saveza koji stavljam između sebe i vas i svih živih bića što su s vama, za naraštaje buduće: 13 Dugu svoju u oblak stavljam, da zalogom bude Savezu između mene i zemlje. 14 Kad oblake nad zemlju navučem i duga se u oblaku pokaže, 15 spomenut ću se Saveza svoga, Saveza između mene i vas i stvorenja svakoga živog: potopa više neće biti da uništi svako biće. 16 U oblaku kad se pojavi duga, ja ću je vidjeti i vjekovnog ću se sjećati Saveza između Boga i svake žive duše, svakog tijela na zemlji." 17 I reče Bog Noi: "To neka je znak Saveza koji sam postavio između sebe i svih živih bića što su na zemlji." 3. OD POTOPA DO ABRAHAMA Noa i njegovi sinovi 18 Sinovi Noini, koji su iz korablje izišli, bijahu: Šem, Ham i Jafet. Ham je praotac Kanaanaca. 19 Ovo su trojica Noinih sinova i od njih se sav svijet razgranao. 20 Noa, zemljoradnik, zasadio vinograd. 21 Napio se vina i opio, pa se otkrio nasred šatora. 22 Ham, praotac Kanaanaca, opazi oca gola pa to kaza dvojici svoje braće vani. 23 Šem i Jafet uzmu ogrtač, obojica ga prebace sebi preko ramena pa njime, idući natraške, pokriju očevu golotinju. Lica im bijahu okrenuta na drugu stranu, tako te ne vidješe oca gola. 24 Kad se Noa otrijeznio od vina i saznao što mu je učinio najmlađi sin, reče: 28 Poslije Potopa Noa poživje trista pedeset godina. 29vemu poživje Noa devet stotina pedeset godina; potom umrije. Napučivanje zemlje

IGNORE THE TROLLS FOLKS ... but expect it.
The ignorance of the bible babblers who are doing what they do best.

showing up on threads and doing their duty as 'Damaged Control' to anything that threatens their little bubble of bible babble.

IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS or offer more info re:THE GAMMA RAY BURST OF 1054 A.D. and others like SN 185 or Kepler SN 1604 please do.

The manipulations of this Big Bang event exposes the OFFICIAL STORY put out by the Church...and exposes other LIEs.

STAR of Bethlehem was a conjunction between Jupiter and Venus?

you can continue to do it here...or on this other thread...where I am sure the TROLLS will not bother us.
Thread: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine. (Page 22)

cya there or discuss here.

namaste

Last Edited by Raphael on 12/31/2009 05:15 PM

what? what no appreciation of your favourite stuff?
OMG, OMG
for your information it is The Bible, genesis, on ancient and obscure language...

I will stop trolling i have prove my point
i hope you will stop trolling too on other thread.

I was not trolling on the other thread.

I OFFERED great info...however you on this thread have OFFERED nothing.

That is the definition of trolling you ignorant human being.

namaste

p.s.
and no I am not done on the other thread.
you folks are lost in spacetime and don't know it.
you need help

I call it tough love.

I hadn't thought about this before looking through this thread, but our present views of the past really have been handed to us by a centralized collective of only a relatively few minds functioning much as the MSM does for current events. Why has there been no oral tradition passed from the dim past, one generation to another, to the present? DNA passes along genetic memories from the past. Where is its counterpart, an information highway, that can connect us psychically to the same time to which we are connected biologically?

THANKS for ignoring the IGNORANCE that these threads attract.

the big problem?
we have become too specialized

Many of us claim to be experts in some regard, BUT how easy is to prove that many experts are actually some of the most IGNORANT human beings, in other fields of knowledge?

TOO EASY..

A superNova with an accompanying GAMMA RAY BURST has probably the highest probability of doing us harm.
SuperNOVAs and GAMMA RAY BURSTS happen 'all the time', certainly in comparison to the theory of another Venus or Nibiru entering our solar system.
We have proof of what I am entering as evidence.

4 of my favorite supernovas that can be matched up to 'TURNING POINTS'in human history, certainly in old world Europe, it can be shown, whose HIS-story, science and faith was being manipulated by those in POWER seeking to unite it with Glory.
POPES and KINGS and QUEENS all use these events to manipulate the herd.
Presidents too I imagine.

185 AD
1054 AD
1060 AD
1604 AD

What my evidence DOES FOR THOSE WHO JUST DON'T GET IT...is show how those supernovas condemn both the POWER and the GLORY operating behind closed doors.
The 'G' Nations or maybe the UN?

The supernova is a 'mini big bang' that occurs all the time in the universe AND the best part, it is the only evidence we need as the 'flock' to help condemn the entire POWER and GLORY structure, NO MATTER WHO is behind the scenes.

These FACTS are indisputable FACTS, and neither the Global Warming vs. Global Cooling group can afford to ignore this information.
ALL TRIBES, must respect the SUPERNOVA, a galactic mini Big Bang.

Regardless of what ANYBODY believes (scientist or theologian) BOTH 'beliefs' must respect the GAMMA RAY BURST and its potential and proven track record.

AND in 2009 ICE CORE samples DECLARED we got hit by GAMMA RAY BURSTs, directly or indirectly, and Earth's inhabitants were witness to accompanying SuperNovas in those years.

But like I said ... it is how the WESTERN CHURCH/STATE manipulated these events that speaks volumes and condemns both the church and the dark ages euro-scientist.

NOW if today's scientist cannot put 2 and 2 together like I have...showing the connection between the Power structure of yesterday and projecting it into the HERE and NOW...what does that tell you, if it is business as usual and the wealthier nations are expected to compensate the poorer nations because the WESTERN nations have created more 'carbon' pollution?

IT REALLY DOES NOT MATTER who is behind the scenes, what I offer on this thread as a topic of discussions, IMHO most forums MUST DEFAULT too this topic in these END of the DAZE.

IT helps expose the Churches/State manipulations AND if modern science does not speak up, supports and allows governments to impose a 'global carbon tax', on the 'carbon life forms', it clearly will show, the motivations of those who remain faceless and nameless.
The mythical'THEY' cannot hide or dismiss the evidence I present regarding the mini big bangs that effect us here on earth, laying seeds that do not become apparent for hundreds, thousands of years.

ONLY THE IGNORANT WANKERS ON THIS THREAD AND OTHERS FORUMS THAT I LOITER ABOUT HAVE THAT ABILITY.

folks like the RELIGIOUS WANKERS who check out this thread, hoping to apply their 'damaged control'.

Too bad these ignorant folks only know how to reBLEATing papal poo.

CERN wants to create 'mini big bangs', and the flocks of science/religion sheeple are in SHOCK and AWE...and yet we ignore the 'cosmic big bangs' going on all around us, that can be proved to have altered history and HIS-story?

What a bunch of babbling blithering sheeple we are.
Taking our cues from FOX TV and SeeNN nothing?

What a bunch of fucking ignorant sheeple and seegullibles I say.
HERE IS A FINE EXAMPLE OF OUR APPARENT IGNORANCE...cut and paste from another thread.



Who is fluffy I ask?
Is that a new name for Nibiru?
And where is your proof fluffy will not be as energetic as in the past...?

And the sheeple can't follow my logic?
Oy vey



I think I have answered that for you.
It is about survival of the smartest and EVIL, the fittest has nothing to do with it.
And the ignorant will insure EVIL wins.
Keep it up.

Most sheeple would be confused by such a dreamstate Xenus.
But being familiar with the ARCHETYPES (like Jung and J Campbell), here is my interpretation of Xenus' dream.

I have no idea what TSAP is.
But Xenus' dreamstate suggests it is more easily approached from the LEFT?
And scientists were amazed when we got hit with a EM disturbance from the NORTH?
It caught them totally by surprise.
I was not surprised.

Many belief systems, Freemasons included, fact EAST, with NORTH on their LEFT.
Good most often being associated with the RIGHT hand not the LEFT.
And the CHINESE beliefs say the opposite.
LEFT is the side considered 'good or favorable'.
So is it suprising the WEST and EAST disagree?
NO a study of archetype like Yin Yang would predict it.

BUT it must be noted what SCIENCE says...

"…God is a weak left hander" -W. Pauli
[link to kachina2012.wordpress.com]

And today's physics uses primarily what is known as RIGHT-hand RULES.
[link to kachina2012.wordpress.com]

And my study/research over these past 5+ years is worthy of a NOBLE prize.
AS a matter of fact, my ARCHETYPAL evidence (affecting the ARK we all share) was presented BEFORE the NOBEL committee handed out an award in 2008 in particle physics that echoed what my paper had discussed.
This one here:
[link to kachina2012.wordpress.com]

The NOBEL award in 2008 dealt with
ASYMMETRY and LEFT and RIGHT and MATTER and anti-MATTER...

Does this matter if the COSMIC building blocks are ASYMMETRIC?

So I am discussing how the smallest (microcosm) is connected/veiled to the biggest events. (macrocosm)

An Emerald Table/t kind of philosophy.
A GREEN vision...like MESA VERDE?
Emerald Table = MESA VERDE = Table Green
And my supernova evidence that helps expose the RUSE, perpetrated by the Power and the Glory can be found in Chaco Canyon?
And area 51 is also in the 4 Corners region, the only place in the US where four states meet to form a CROSS.

How would the UN turn AREA 51 into AGENDA 21?



And this blog discusses how a sealed HOPI crypt containing a statue that has had its RIGHT ARM broken off, might be another confirming CLUE...ole' Raphael has stumbled and bumbled his way to an archetypal TRUTH used to build our archetypal ARKs.
[link to kachina2012.wordpress.com]



You are following in my footsteps Xenus.
Admit it.
I am way ahead.
I spend my time 24/7/365 studying the archetype.
Ask my friends.
I have nearly noneleft, having alienated most of the righteous IGNORANT friends I had surrounded myself with in this lifetime.

Just because I appear as a nobody, with no book to my credit, no degree, only a high school + plus life education, does not mean I am a nobody.

Are folks familiar with HOPI prophecy the White Brother called the Pahana who returns with the missing CORNER, and HOPI HOPE for mankind?

I know this entity, the Pahana.
I feel connected.
Is the Pahana and HOPI hope prophecy represented by the SWASTIKA and another CROSS found in Europe, called the Maltese Cross or the Celtic Cross?
Can we connect the Celtic Cross to the swiSS?
YES
The swastika is definitly associated with the Pahana, AND HOPI creation cosmology and the swiSS?

And of course the Anasazi left a marker using their asymmetric RIGHT HAND, as a petroglyph, to mark the SUPERNOVA of 1054 AD that the European science and FAITH both did not record.

POWER AND GLORY INC. is FUCKING BUSTED

But the wankers on this thread, folks who claim to KNOW all of what I present, are not mooved by what I present the herd of sheeple.

I have made my point.
Xenus and so many others are just another of life's paradoxes confirmed.

Xenus is a fine diplomat for the smart/stupid humanity that is the author of its own undoing...

The SWASTIKA is an ASYMMETRIC 10,000 year old glyph that expresses an ancient vortex theory.

The SWASTIKA is the secret they HIDE right Before our very Eyes, reinforcing a negativity with an intent, showing skeletal bodies, Hitler and the Swastika always together...

The SWASITKA was called the KEY OF UNIVERSAL MOVEMENT by the ancestors of the HOPI, the Anasazi, and the Aztec, and the MAYA ... they all share similar calender making methods.

namaste

p.s. more reading on UNIVERSAL ASYMMETRY
[link to kachina2012.wordpress.com]


Last Edited by Raphael on 01/03/2010 10:29 AM

Hey Raph,
Been away for a bit... just bumping your thread. I have to play catch up!

Way back when the Spaniard Catalics were sacking and looting the Mayan/Aztec civilizations,my good ol'pal Bishop Landa directed the destruction of the entire written history of the Mayans and Aztecs.I beleive only 3-4 of their codexes survived.Years later in Europe,someone came across on of the codices that had been discarded and used asa soCCer baLL by some children.Named "The Codex Vaticanus",it had somehow made it out of the Vatican library,and passed around as a curiosity.It TURNS out that that the content concerned eclipse cycles and The EARTH-VENUS cycles.I have wondered for years why the VaticAn would be so interested in that particular volume,why it wasn't burned with the others back in Mexico.What info were they sEEking what were they hiding?So here we have an nearly total destruction/censorship of entire cultures written histories and historical astronomical records.Sins of coMMiSSion,in aDDition to the sins of oMMiSSion. We wiLL recaLL that when plotting the EARTH-VENUS CyCle's orbital path,it exhibits a PENTAGRAM. Venus-Star of Lucifer/Star of Jesus. ****I'hope this brings another dimension to the thead's topis. 888I'm going to walk my little dog now,and then dig up some of my bOOks,and wiLL post more later.

Y E S
you clearly don't understand what you post links to, you have admitted that yourself.
And you have said that your head hurts.
YOU offer so much information dude...CAN YOU CONNECT IT THOUGH?

The universe uses a strong focusing principle called a gamma ray burst...like a laser...
CERN also operates using a strong focusing principle.
dEVIL EVIL VEIL LIVE
Would an EVIL EYE use such a technique too?
A strong focusing principle.

Maybe we should too.
That is clearly the diff between EWE and Me and the Mi-Ra I am learning to use...

THE SUPERNOVA of 1054 A.D., was itself a mini big bang event, it is THE SMOKING GUN that exposes both middle ages dark ages science/religion, and perhaps even modern day conspiracies...we shall see.

A discussion of how the SUPERNOVAS influence turning points in HIS-story must be exposed, brought to LIGHT too...the coincidences are far more than coincidental.
SUPERNOVAS happen quite frequently, far more often then THEY let us believe.
Or should I say that they are learning?
ICE CORE samples help expose the RUSE.
The best recording device we have (ice cores) EXPOSE beyond a shadow of a doubt how the POPES and KINGS interpret these celestial events (acts of nature) as divine messages from god.

Discussions of how SUPERNOVAS expose the RUSE, I find far more important than Z-pinch theory.

Does pinch theory expose the RUSE?
What RUSE?
Can you show how Z-pinch theory correlates to VERY SPECIFIC DATES in history, ACTUAL TURNING POINTS, often leading to a 'changing of the guard', AND the best part is?

We can also use this event to EXPOSE how the masters seem to be ignoring this info I have uncovered?
WHY?
OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY continue to IGNORE the FACTs of LIFE, that the ICE CORE samples prove...
Then it is OBVIOUS what the intent really truly is.
ICE CORE samples beyond a shadow of a doubting Thomas, DECLARES that human beings, the CARBON LIFE FORMS should not be EXPECTED to pay a CARBON TAX, for what it clearly is, a silent conspiracy to impose a SLAVE tax on ALL future generations for ACTS OF NATURE....

THERE WILL NEVER BE A WAY OUT FOR ALL GENERATIONS THE FOLLOW if humans are forced to pay a tax based on an ACT OF NATURE....

Our DEPLETING OZONE is due to SUPERNOVAS/GAMMA RAY BURSTs/PULSAR remanants.
It is like getting struck by a cosmic lightening.

Super Duper Stars going NOVA ... the GAMMA RAY BURST is the mini big bangs humans get to observe...and the KINGS and POPES manipulated to help with keeping the flock herded and huddled together.

GAMMA RAY BURSTS can knock our lights out (satellites would be knocked out, from across the galaxy, before we even see it coming.
Before we SEE it, the EARTH would feel the PRESSURE wave, that rides the bow of light traveling faster than the speed of sound,(is a pressure or sound wave) that precedes the 'BURST' we see.

In other words...like an atomic bomb.
If you can SEE it, it is too late.

NOW how does the Gamma Ray Burst of 1604 help expose the silly nilly alterations made to the bible babble called King James 1611 version?

Who of the sheeple would love to know?

SuperNOVAs are the SMOKING GUNS that left a smoky residue in those ICE CORE samples...

Science and Religion are both B U S T E D
STAY FOCUSED, strongly focused on this iSSue if we want to avoid future generations of slavery based on the BIG FIBs.

namaste

p.s.
Just was reminded of a song that has served me well on this journey...clearly Xenus you and me were destined to CROSS paths, a Cross-over, I know that...

and clearly clearly oh I can see clearly now Xenus ALL I wanna do is ride that bow of popularity...your LIGHT wave will be preceded by the PRESSURE/SOUND wave that precedes it...

shhhh
can you FEEL it...must be what I have been sensing...in the end of the daze.

thanks...

Speak on. I, for one, am listening.

More please.

how clear has it become?
how easily can we trace these events to turning points in our history, down here on earth?

take a look at this list...
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

remember the closer the supernova event, the more potentially harmful.

these 'mini big bangs' that leave pulsars or black holes as offspring are the SMOKING GUNS ....

without a doubt...I KNOW THAT NOW.
take a real close LOOK at the TIMELINES...match them up to events in real history, that includes the 25,000 years of HER-story that PRECEDED all the bible babble and science mumbo jumbo.

These galactic SMOKING GUNS expose both the religious and science manipulators.
These galactic SMOKING GUNS also expose the entire Copenhagen/Global Warming vs. Global Cooling DEBATE, as just another RUSE.
It really is 'business as usual, and the usual SuSpects are involved'

It is clearly OBVIOUS that these galactic events, SUPERNOVA ejecting GAMMA RAY BURSTS leaving BLACKHOLES and PULSARS as remanants, and there is NOTHING MORE ENERGETIC IN the entire universe, serve to harm OUR OZONE far more, than human activity ever has....

P E O P L E ... N E E D ... TO KNOW THAT ... the SMOKING GUN has been FOUND and it exposes the TRUTH, about so much.
THE SMOKING GUN that tells the TRUTH, are the mini big bangs.....
[link to breakfornews.com]

HOW FUCKING POETIC...don't ya think?
Please try to laugh along with the creator alchemist....

namaste

I'm not religious, never was, so the topic of churches being corrupt and evil is well known to me and not very interesting. There is nothing I can do about the organized religions, nor do I feel the need to change people's beliefs. I would rather people not have any beliefs at all. Of course it makes you uncertain of things you don't know or understand, but it also allows one to learn without being impeded by filters/beliefs. If I am wrong about anything I accept the correction, learn and move on. You can't do this if you have beliefs, because it would mean your beliefs are wrong and everything you have done based of those beliefs a lie.

Right now I have several hypothesis in regards to what is coming, as Fluffy gets closer to us I can start to deduce and reason and think about which one is more correct, or if they are all wrong and I must start from scratch. But I know it is here inside our solar system already, I still don't know if this is a cyclic thing or it penetrated the sun's magnetosphere and has started flowing in. Whatever the case, it's high density charged particles. If we do get a GAMMA RAY BURST in our direction passing through the "cloud" (for lack of a better term) it could very well ignite it, just like our laser fusion experiments on Earth, except these astronomical phenomena are much, MUCH more energetic, bigger in scale and longer lasting.

And yes Raphael, I know that we are moving through the universe but I don't know which side this cloud has penetrated, so it's hard to say if we drifted into it or it drifted into us. Or both.

You may be right brained (creative?) but I am both, I just choose the certainty and order of the left in order to explain to people and myself.

"How would science, religion and in general, how would humanity react to such a celestial event?"

If it is not understood then people will panic and turn into wild beasts full of fear. Anyone in power can claim this event to be anything they wished, with the panic stricken people accepting anything they are told. Fear + control. People will die, people will live. We all die regardless at some point in time, so there is a purpose to this... the universe should not be insane, it is humanity that is sick with irrationality and unreasonable thinking and expectations.

IGNORANCE IS BLISS
I like to think, that I learn from ALL scripts dude.
That is why I do not need to call shit fluffy.
EWE and your fluffy herd just like to reBLEAT what makes ewe feel all fuzzy and fluffy.



these fluffy events, if close enough, I suspect are enough to turn the EARTH upside down?

an actual physical flip, NOT just the magnetic poles?


"How would science, religion and in general, how would humanity react to such a celestial event?"



Exactly WHY IT IS IMPORTANT I SHOW HOW DARK AGES EURO/CHURCH/SCIENCE manipulated these events.

AND THAT MODERN SCIENCE AND BIG BUSINESS ARE PREPARED TO DO IT AGAIN BY IMPOSING A CARBON TAX.

WHY and HOW could THEY possibly do this.
I HAVE JUST PROVED USING ICE CORES SAMPLES THAT EXPLODING STARS ARE MORE TO BLAME.

I have just proved humans are just a small factor, in comparison to the galactic mini big bang super-duper-novas.

SO WHY THE TAX?
BETCHA THE TAX GOES THROUGH.
WHAT DON'T EWE UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT I AM UNCOVERING?

HOW THE BIBLICAL TIMELINE MATCHES EXPLODING SUPERNOVAS?

[link to breakfornews.com]
HOT OFF THE PRESS....AND AN IGNORANT PLEBE LIKE EWE on this forum, IS ONE OF ITS FIRST CRITICS?

Xenus if EWE do not want to discuSS the supernovas on this thread, why don't EWE fuck off?

the supernova = THE SMOKING GUN that takes aim at 'organized everything'!!!

B E T C H A

namaste

Last Edited by Raphael on 01/07/2010 09:53 AM

I call it fluffy because I find it funny how dreamy the language and tone being used by the writer of that article is. They used words like wispy and fluffy, like fairy floss. You are focused on the stupidest things, like carbon tax. Do you not understand, if you were going to be taxed you would be taxed? I have a thread which shows people how space affects our weather, a small fraction of people found it interesting. Anyone who has any understanding of the universe will know that our weather is not a local, closed system but rather a complex, open interacting system that is connected to the universe.

When will you get it Raphael, people do not give a shit. They don't care, they are too busy dying in order to live in some mythical afterlife and while they are it it, they destroy the planet and those around them. You can't change people's beliefs because it is a choice they make. You call me ignorant and ask me to reply to you, yet you do not even realise when someone is agreeing with you, you do not realise when science is agreeing with you but the meanings get lost in translation to layman, that some scientists being human can err and be evil with purpose. Global warming was never a damn issue. It was only an issue to zombies who do not think or learn.

Do you not understand that people who don't learn are stupid? They are the majority of this world. They are the ones who will reap what they sow. Deep down they must know that they are cocooned in lies, they just continue to lie to themselves and others.

Why are you so focussed on things that are trivial and bullshit? Who cares about a carbon tax now? If they want a carbon tax they will add one, they will make you pay for breathing, they will make you responsible for the pollution of the world, all because people do not understand anything. THEY ASKED FOR THIS. But because of their ignorance of how weather and our atmosphere even works, they were manipulated and our of sheer stupidity they are blinded.

Don't you see, these are the same idiot people who rule this world, put in power by idiots and peons who are too stupid and lazy to learn or think. It's a never ending cycle of not learning and being stupid. I call them zombies, because they are no longer human, they turned their backs on humanity long ago. Animals are better than them, at least animals LEARN and THINK.

Why don't you buy some magnets and play with them? As long as we have a field it will be aligned one way. If another stronger external field comes close it would greatly affect it. Even if our shield gets disrupted our thick atmosphere will block a lot of radiation. But this thing is huge, so there is no telling what can happen. There are still a lot of variables in play that can affect the end game.

You are focused on trying to make the information you find fit into your beliefs... You can never understand this way. Forget pole shifts, forget the magnetic field. Do you even understand anything in regards to these forces? Do you even know that we have MORE than two poles? Not many people do. There is much you do not know but you are trying very hard to fit what you do know into your beliefs. What if the truth clashes with your beliefs? Do you do what others do and cut it to make it fit?

So you found one link, one amongst many, good for you. Start to understand things better and EVERYTHING will be linked. There is no separation.

found a link?
dude I am ONE of those folks providing them...

[link to kachina2012.wordpress.com]
go to my wordblog, scan down the right margin...pick a topic, discuss...and please STOP BEING A FUCKING cut and paste know it all DICK.

namaste

Last Edited by Raphael on 01/08/2010 08:26 AM

I took this from that site:



2 things:

1/ this superdupernova telescope will not be launched until 2011.
2/ "Asymmetries could be the key,"

Cassiopeia and Asymmetry caught my eye.
Asymmetry IS the KEY to understanding how the universe is structured, that is why they search for asymmetries.

I wrote about ASYMMETRY in 2008, the same year NOBEL handed out an award for matter/anti-matter asymmetry.
[link to kachina2012.wordpress.com]

When was that SuperNOVA in the Cassiopeia A?
What is the TIMELINE?

namaste

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

COMET FRAGMENTS: On March 11th, 12th and 13th no fewer than four comets plunged into the sun. Can you find all four in this movie (22 MB) from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory? Hint: The last comet is a double. These sungrazing comets are believed to be fragments of a giant comet that broke apart more than 2000 years ago.
2000 YEARS AGO? SOME MORE SPIRITUAL INSIGHT.........


SUNSPOT: 1054

A solar wind stream is heading for Earth, and so is a coronal mass ejection (CME). Together, they add up to a geomagnetic storm alert for March 17th and 18th. The impact of the solar wind plus CME will brighten

The Crab Nebula Supernova 1054 AD
The Biggest July 4 Fireworks Explosion in History Formed M1


Read more at Suite101: The Crab Nebula Supernova 1054 AD: The Biggest July 4 Fireworks Explosion in History Formed M1 [link to deep-space-astronomy.suite101.com]



Crab Nebula
Observing the Crab Nebula requires a telescope and a dark moonless night. In a modest telescope it looks like a barely visible fuzzy patch near the naked eye star, Zeta Tauri. John Bevis, a British physician and amateur astronomer, first discovered it in 1731.



Picture of Crab Nebula

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