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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat December 5

 
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right. People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?
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Why don't you ask yourself if she has EVER gotten ONE SINGLE astronomical prediction right? The answer is NO...she hasn't. Why do you put ANY trust in anything she says?
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What happened to the Zeta Talk glossary of terms?

NancyTalk: It’s still there, just no link to the glossary, which has been replaced by the search engine for the website. The glossary has not been maintained for a decade or so. Thus, outdated.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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So why won't the person who said that Polaris was WAAAYYY out of place explain how they determined that? Why is no proof expected for radical claims such as that?




You would never accept any evidence, Menow, who do you think you fool?

You are unbelievably dim!
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Here' several thousand images of Polaris right where it belongs...

[link to images.search.yahoo.com]
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Why do the Zetas refuse to give sky coordinates for the "Dark Twin"?

People will think you are hiding something.

SOZT
The issue of just where the Dark Twin lies, back along the orbit shared with Earth, moves about. The Earth is moved up and down above and below the Ecliptic during our efforts to simulate the seasons, so the northern hemisphere gets more or less sunlight, for instance. Venus and the Dark Twin are likewise caught in the cup, and batter each other, then ricochet away. Things are in MOTION. Were we to give coordinates, the next day they would not be correct! It is like asking where Menow is, his coordinates. He might be in the toilet, or at the gym, or having coffee with debunker control, his manager, and thus one simply cannot say!
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Right... planets are "ricocheting" around in the sky, yet not one single astronomer in the world will confirm this. Heh.

The old story goes... "If you are going to tell a lie, make it such a big one that no one will believe you would have the temerity to lie like that".
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right. People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?


Why don't you ask yourself if she has EVER gotten ONE SINGLE astronomical prediction right? The answer is NO...she hasn't. Why do you put ANY trust in anything she says?
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give me a good reason to trust your judgement???...afterall, can i truly trust u???
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All Nancy has to do to prove herself is get ONE astronomical claim right. That has yet to happen.


Typical menow attitude, anoying as usual.

Very true my friend! I think menow uses Drugs! (dope)


Yes... attack the messenger, since that's all you have.


LOL! you came here TO ATTACK THE MESSENGER


No, you don't understand the term. I am here to attack THE MESSAGE. Think about the difference.


no, you don't understand--you're the intruder here
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When did I say that I wasn't "intruding"? I didn't. I was attacked on a personal level, rather than addressing the facts. THAT is "attacking the messenger". Look it up in Zetatalk.
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I was shocked Tuesday night to see the North Star 15* to 20* to the left of where it should be. Which means that we were tilting to the right looking at the US, or the left looking towards the sun. That was the biggest tilt that I have seen since I starting checking 10 years ago.
On a magnetic compus map I see that an almost straight line runs North and South through Wisconsin. Everywhere else magnetic North is not as close to True north.
So my question is this, Does that fact have a bearing as to where on earth (which state or country or Lon. and Lat.) will the earth pivit from on to it's side. Or is it a simple matter of anywhere when we get close enough to PX?

SOZT
Yes, the wobble has gotten stronger, which is obvious for those who merely LOOK.

Wisconsin will MOVE during the pole shift, greatly, as will the rest of the world. It will move toward the NW while the Bulge of Brazil is pulled toward the current N Pole location. We have stated that there is NO pivot point on Earth where the pole shift winds of quakes will not occur. ALL participate. ALL move. ALL slam when the plates stop moving.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


If there were a 15 to 20 degree shift in the position of the North Star, the Sun should rise or set over an HOUR earlier or later. ALL stars and planets should rise and set at incorrect times. Why hasn't this happened?
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Why do the Zetas refuse to give sky coordinates for the "Dark Twin"?

People will think you are hiding something.

SOZT
The issue of just where the Dark Twin lies, back along the orbit shared with Earth, moves about. The Earth is moved up and down above and below the Ecliptic during our efforts to simulate the seasons, so the northern hemisphere gets more or less sunlight, for instance. Venus and the Dark Twin are likewise caught in the cup, and batter each other, then ricochet away. Things are in MOTION. Were we to give coordinates, the next day they would not be correct! It is like asking where Menow is, his coordinates. He might be in the toilet, or at the gym, or having coffee with debunker control, his manager, and thus one simply cannot say!
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder



AAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahaha! Lol at Menow!

You really are good for a jab or two Menow!
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Some users (Nancy Lieder) of this website are participating in internet role playing
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right. People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?


Why don't you ask yourself if she has EVER gotten ONE SINGLE astronomical prediction right? The answer is NO...she hasn't. Why do you put ANY trust in anything she says?

give me a good reason to trust your judgement???...afterall, can i truly trust u???
 Quoting: picesnator


How's this...as an astronomer, every single time I have predicted an eclipse or an astronomical event...it happenes exactly on time. Nancy, however, has NEVER once gotten a prediction correct. Can YOU point out one?
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Is there a War Going in Above Our Heads?

[link to edgrimsley.com]
what is he watching in "night vision goggles" since the 1960's?

Many are talking about "Allies" here for the changes. Can Zetas give any comment on this?

SOZT
The only wars that occur are between STS groups, and these groups are NOT ALLOWED to display their pecking order battles to young worlds. If someone is observing movements in the skies that are NOT your airplanes or meteors, then these are likely simply UFO sightings. To ascribe them as “battles” is to think of the Universe in only human terms.
EOZT
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then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right.
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Of COURSE I have considered that. I gave Nancy every benefit of the doubt until her images came out in 2002. Nothing there. She was lying.


People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?
 Quoting: redstar 834499


Warnings about a planet that is hovering near the Sun for 6 years? Are you DAFT?
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From your 4D point of view, do you see our 3d world as a dream (a nightmare more often)(as portrayed in the Matrix movie) and your 4d world as the real world, or are both worlds inside the Matrix, dream worlds and the only reality being the spiritual world? thanx

SOZT
Neither. Both are real.
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Some users (Nancy Lieder) of this website are participating in internet role playing
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now u can take off the dress
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I had a recall of a dream in which we were on a space ship and we literally pick others contactees up on our way and we get dropped off like if this was a bus service, from back yards, etc;one by one. Is this how this happens usually? Isn't this time consuming?

SOZT
This was your dream and we don’t do dream analysis. But we will say this. Depending upon the number of ships available for a large meeting, a given ship will either deliver a single contactee or many, so such a routine is quite possible, yes.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Buses! lol..
Do you wait all night for a spaceship 'bus' only for 3 of them to turn up at once? Are their toilets/loo roll, beer, tea/coffee, food refreshements, TV to watch.. while abductees are 'bussed' about? Do aliens eat Smash.. instead of peeling potatoes? Do aliens have a 'bus' timetable? err.. just askin!
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right. People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?


Why don't you ask yourself if she has EVER gotten ONE SINGLE astronomical prediction right? The answer is NO...she hasn't. Why do you put ANY trust in anything she says?

give me a good reason to trust your judgement???...afterall, can i truly trust u???


How's this...as an astronomer, every single time I have predicted an eclipse or an astronomical event...it happenes exactly on time. Nancy, however, has NEVER once gotten a prediction correct. Can YOU point out one?
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the sun rises and the sun sets......
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I am interested, as may others be, to hear a sample of Zeta Music. Is this possible? Can we have a sample of your music to listen to?

SOZT
What is music to one species is merely noise to another. Thus, this would be irrelevant. And such a revelation would be a failure to maintain the Element of Doubt rule.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
EOZT
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Why do the Zetas refuse to give sky coordinates for the "Dark Twin"?

People will think you are hiding something.

SOZT
The issue of just where the Dark Twin lies, back along the orbit shared with Earth, moves about. The Earth is moved up and down above and below the Ecliptic during our efforts to simulate the seasons, so the northern hemisphere gets more or less sunlight, for instance. Venus and the Dark Twin are likewise caught in the cup, and batter each other, then ricochet away. Things are in MOTION. Were we to give coordinates, the next day they would not be correct! It is like asking where Menow is, his coordinates. He might be in the toilet, or at the gym, or having coffee with debunker control, his manager, and thus one simply cannot say!
EOZT



AAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahaha! Lol at Menow!

You really are good for a jab or two Menow!
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You mean you are dim enough to accept that excuse? You deserve what you get.

Heh.
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What happened to the Zeta Talk glossary of terms?

NancyTalk: It’s still there, just no link to the glossary, which has been replaced by the search engine for the website. The glossary has not been maintained for a decade or so. Thus, outdated.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Thanks, Nancy. It's Keyword Index for those interested.
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right. People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?


Why don't you ask yourself if she has EVER gotten ONE SINGLE astronomical prediction right? The answer is NO...she hasn't. Why do you put ANY trust in anything she says?

give me a good reason to trust your judgement???...afterall, can i truly trust u???


How's this...as an astronomer, every single time I have predicted an eclipse or an astronomical event...it happenes exactly on time. Nancy, however, has NEVER once gotten a prediction correct. Can YOU point out one?
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Are you another debunker like menow?
Those pictures are from Nasa HUH?
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Can I request that people please IGNORE Menow. All your replies are taking up space.

The other debunkers had the good grace to depart.
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I'm still here, and I'm still eager to provide proof that the moon is where it should be, and while we're at it, so is Polaris. I can kill two birds with one stone tonight. The moon rises in one hour where I am. What proof do you Zetas have that these things are not in the right place in the sky?
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right. People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?


Why don't you ask yourself if she has EVER gotten ONE SINGLE astronomical prediction right? The answer is NO...she hasn't. Why do you put ANY trust in anything she says?

give me a good reason to trust your judgement???...afterall, can i truly trust u???


How's this...as an astronomer, every single time I have predicted an eclipse or an astronomical event...it happenes exactly on time. Nancy, however, has NEVER once gotten a prediction correct. Can YOU point out one?

Are you another debunker like menow?
Those pictures are from Nasa HUH?
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i guess the gang can't live with u nancy......they're back...
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right. People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?


Why don't you ask yourself if she has EVER gotten ONE SINGLE astronomical prediction right? The answer is NO...she hasn't. Why do you put ANY trust in anything she says?

give me a good reason to trust your judgement???...afterall, can i truly trust u???


How's this...as an astronomer, every single time I have predicted an eclipse or an astronomical event...it happenes exactly on time. Nancy, however, has NEVER once gotten a prediction correct. Can YOU point out one?

Are you another debunker like menow?
Those pictures are from Nasa HUH?
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Those pictures are just from regular people... did you look at them?
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PX is moving towards us. Are you not up on your research? Do you bother to look at all?

Burning books is censorship. So is standing in the middle of a library and announcing all the information is a lie. Or on a forum shrilling. If you don't want to believe, go find something better to do with your life, because you are just wasting it here.

Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Menow .... it fits. But you have the power to change that. Don't become a murderer of innocent people seeking truth.



Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right.


Of COURSE I have considered that. I gave Nancy every benefit of the doubt until her images came out in 2002. Nothing there. She was lying.



People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?


Warnings about a planet that is hovering near the Sun for 6 years? Are you DAFT?
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ANYONE can set a camera on a tripod, Point it at the north star, open the shutter for a few hours and confirm that Polaris is right where it belongs and that Earth is NO abnormally wobbling. ANYONE!
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right. People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?


Why don't you ask yourself if she has EVER gotten ONE SINGLE astronomical prediction right? The answer is NO...she hasn't. Why do you put ANY trust in anything she says?

give me a good reason to trust your judgement???...afterall, can i truly trust u???


How's this...as an astronomer, every single time I have predicted an eclipse or an astronomical event...it happenes exactly on time. Nancy, however, has NEVER once gotten a prediction correct. Can YOU point out one?

the sun rises and the sun sets......
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Thank you for proving my point.
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PX is moving towards us. Are you not up on your research? Do you bother to look at all?

Burning books is censorship. So is standing in the middle of a library and announcing all the information is a lie. Or on a forum shrilling. If you don't want to believe, go find something better to do with your life, because you are just wasting it here.

Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Menow .... it fits. But you have the power to change that. Don't become a murderer of innocent people seeking truth.


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I think pointing out someone is incorrect is a far cry from burning books. And Nancy is incorrect about PX; as she has continued to be for years.
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Why do the Zetas refuse to give sky coordinates for the "Dark Twin"?

People will think you are hiding something.

SOZT
The issue of just where the Dark Twin lies, back along the orbit shared with Earth, moves about. The Earth is moved up and down above and below the Ecliptic during our efforts to simulate the seasons, so the northern hemisphere gets more or less sunlight, for instance. Venus and the Dark Twin are likewise caught in the cup, and batter each other, then ricochet away. Things are in MOTION. Were we to give coordinates, the next day they would not be correct! It is like asking where Menow is, his coordinates. He might be in the toilet, or at the gym, or having coffee with debunker control, his manager, and thus one simply cannot say!
EOZT
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chuckle
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PX is moving towards us. Are you not up on your research? Do you bother to look at all?

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Yes, all the time. I am an astrophotographer. You can see some of my work at

www.machunter.org/hapspics.html

Planet X simply does not exist.
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Those who flock here with the single intention of discrediting this chat have no concern at all for people. They have not considered *what if* Nancy and the Zetas are right. People that they persuade to ignore the warnings due to their constant harassment and bullying won't prepare and, thus, their unnecessary deaths will be on the hands of those here who try to be stumbling blocks to those seeking the truth. How does it feel to be potential murderers?


Why don't you ask yourself if she has EVER gotten ONE SINGLE astronomical prediction right? The answer is NO...she hasn't. Why do you put ANY trust in anything she says?

give me a good reason to trust your judgement???...afterall, can i truly trust u???


How's this...as an astronomer, every single time I have predicted an eclipse or an astronomical event...it happenes exactly on time. Nancy, however, has NEVER once gotten a prediction correct. Can YOU point out one?

Are you another debunker like menow?
Those pictures are from Nasa HUH?


Those pictures are just from regular people... did you look at them?
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I dont! why? What it going to do for me in these troubled times. Im focusing on important preparaitons instead. Im not like menow whom is thinking of escaping to the dark twin.





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