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Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?

 
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Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
Can any of you tell me if theres a way to verify Masonship?

How big a deal is "32nd degree? (ie: how hard is it to attain 32nd?)

Does 32nd status require the Luciferian aspect (child abuse, rituals etc??

Any Masonic investigation sources you'd recomend??

Would it be dangerous for my kids to be around a 32nd??
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
The nice thing about a secret society is that it's possible to be completely full of shit about it and nobody knows otherwise.

32nd degree does exist in some Masonic circles, and some say 33rd also, although the mainstream of Freemasonry only goes to 3rd.

If you think about it, any pyramidal structure that goes to 32 degrees is full of shit to begin with: let's assume every person of degree n is in charge of only two people of degree n-1, then for there to be only one person of degree 32, there would have to be 2^31 people of degree 1, and 2^32 - 1 people in the organisation total. That's about two thirds of the population of the entire world. I don't think even the most paranoid will suppose that Freemasonry is _that_ widespread. Even the Catholic Church, the largest organisation on earth, only goes layman - deacon - priest - bishop - archbishop - cardinal - pope. So if the Masons have such an absurd number of ranks, then most of those ranks must be purely titular. A bunch of guys awarding each other ever-more-elaborate titles, most likely. Rather silly business to be honest.

At any rate, if somebody really was so highly ranked in a secret Satanic organisation, he's unlikely to go bragging about it to his neighbours. Your friend here is almost certainly even more full of shit than Freemasonry itself.
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
Can any of you tell me if theres a way to verify Masonship?

How big a deal is "32nd degree? (ie: how hard is it to attain 32nd?)

Does 32nd status require the Luciferian aspect (child abuse, rituals etc??

Any Masonic investigation sources you'd recomend??

Would it be dangerous for my kids to be around a 32nd??
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First you need to reach the New Jerusalem knowledge level. Then you can see freemasons easy. They use the multiple religious roman gregorian calendar system with President's Day as their main holiday since they focus on the system of man.

However, some are getting cured and turning to the New Jerusalem. You would have to see what your friend thought of the New Jerusalem to see what type freemason he is. If he doesn't have a passion for the LORD just don't hang out that much. Or try to cure him.


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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
Can any of you tell me if theres a way to verify Masonship?

How big a deal is "32nd degree? (ie: how hard is it to attain 32nd?)

Does 32nd status require the Luciferian aspect (child abuse, rituals etc??

Any Masonic investigation sources you'd recomend??

Would it be dangerous for my kids to be around a 32nd??
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As far as proof well I can tell you how you can tell but not 100% does he have a ring with a 2 headed eagle, probably on his right hand? There is nothing bad about 32nd degree mason. I think it would be good to have him around your kids masons live up to a high moral code. The Scottish rite has free schools for dyslexia and many more as well has gives over 5 million dollars a DAY to charity. Get to know him does he seem like a evil devil worshiping child beater or a up member of his community thats tries to help people.
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
Can any of you tell me if theres a way to verify Masonship?

How big a deal is "32nd degree? (ie: how hard is it to attain 32nd?)

Does 32nd status require the Luciferian aspect (child abuse, rituals etc??

Any Masonic investigation sources you'd recomend??

Would it be dangerous for my kids to be around a 32nd??
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mason are always in good stand in their community's you have to be to become a mason i hope this helps
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
The nice thing about a secret society is that it's possible to be completely full of shit about it and nobody knows otherwise.

32nd degree does exist in some Masonic circles, and some say 33rd also, although the mainstream of Freemasonry only goes to 3rd.

If you think about it, any pyramidal structure that goes to 32 degrees is full of shit to begin with: let's assume every person of degree n is in charge of only two people of degree n-1, then for there to be only one person of degree 32, there would have to be 2^31 people of degree 1, and 2^32 - 1 people in the organisation total. That's about two thirds of the population of the entire world. I don't think even the most paranoid will suppose that Freemasonry is _that_ widespread. Even the Catholic Church, the largest organisation on earth, only goes layman - deacon - priest - bishop - archbishop - cardinal - pope. So if the Masons have such an absurd number of ranks, then most of those ranks must be purely titular. A bunch of guys awarding each other ever-more-elaborate titles, most likely. Rather silly business to be honest.

At any rate, if somebody really was so highly ranked in a secret Satanic organisation, he's unlikely to go bragging about it to his neighbours. Your friend here is almost certainly even more full of shit than Freemasonry itself.
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well you got it half right 1st through 3rd are each earned after that if you choose and any 3rd degree mason can go scottish rite you go from 3rd straight to 32nd and the big misconception is that the degree has some this to do with rank. the hierarchy of masonry has nothing to do wit this.
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
Can any of you tell me if theres a way to verify Masonship?

How big a deal is "32nd degree? (ie: how hard is it to attain 32nd?)

Does 32nd status require the Luciferian aspect (child abuse, rituals etc??

Any Masonic investigation sources you'd recomend??

Would it be dangerous for my kids to be around a 32nd??



First you need to reach the New Jerusalem knowledge level. Then you can see freemasons easy. They use the multiple religious roman gregorian calendar system with President's Day as their main holiday since they focus on the system of man.

However, some are getting cured and turning to the New Jerusalem. You would have to see what your friend thought of the New Jerusalem to see what type freemason he is. If he doesn't have a passion for the LORD just don't hang out that much. Or try to cure him.


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 Quoting: New JerUSAlem Russ


Love your passion, how ever misguided, and I respect all fellow Christians. However presidents' day has no significance in Free Masonry.
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i have heard that no degree is above another degree, but naturally im sure people are proud. Those people never reach the higher degrees.
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Shoot him and if he dies .
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I mean shoot him and see if he dies. chuckle
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
Question, why do you want it verified? If he is freely telling you, the odds are that he is not what he claims. The two headed eagle ring looking in opposite directions is indicative of a Scottish Rite mason.
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
sounds like he all that linked to it is as full of sh*t as me
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stick a thermometer in his mouth
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
The nice thing about a secret society is that it's possible to be completely full of shit about it and nobody knows otherwise.

32nd degree does exist in some Masonic circles, and some say 33rd also, although the mainstream of Freemasonry only goes to 3rd.

If you think about it, any pyramidal structure that goes to 32 degrees is full of shit to begin with: let's assume every person of degree n is in charge of only two people of degree n-1, then for there to be only one person of degree 32, there would have to be 2^31 people of degree 1, and 2^32 - 1 people in the organisation total. That's about two thirds of the population of the entire world. I don't think even the most paranoid will suppose that Freemasonry is _that_ widespread. Even the Catholic Church, the largest organisation on earth, only goes layman - deacon - priest - bishop - archbishop - cardinal - pope. So if the Masons have such an absurd number of ranks, then most of those ranks must be purely titular. A bunch of guys awarding each other ever-more-elaborate titles, most likely. Rather silly business to be honest.

At any rate, if somebody really was so highly ranked in a secret Satanic organisation, he's unlikely to go bragging about it to his neighbours. Your friend here is almost certainly even more full of shit than Freemasonry itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 774515


No one said Masonry is pyramidal. It's a ranking of knowledge - sort of like getting a new colored belt in karate. Just because you got a black belt doesn't mean there has to be 2 brown belts below you, 4 of the next color, etc in the same dojo.
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
ask him what they teach you in 32nd degree that they don't teach you in others, and to describe the 32nd degree initiation ceremony

then watch his body language to see if he is making it up or recalling
Ask for details

DUH!
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
A manager at my family's company was a high level shriner, and he showed me a ring he had with Shriner/Masonic symbols.

Do Freemasons have similar rings? Sometimes?



Personally, since they want to chip our kids, I would be a little leary of leaving my child alone with one.

On the chipping, I say, "Thanks, but no thanks."

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sounds like he all that linked to it is as full of sh*t as me
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Any Mason can join the Scottish Rite after the reach Master Mason or 3rd degree. They are also eligible for the York Rite, but nobody is ever concerned with them because they do not have a numeric rank system, but call themselves Knights Templar instead.

To join the Scottish Rite, you need be a master mason, get sponsored in the Lodge by one of your buddies, pay the fee, and attend the meetings.

Ironically, the degrees are usually obtained many at once at a conference weekend. 32nd is the highest a regular Mason can get to, 33d degree is somewhat of an honorary title for some of the members who really put in a lot of effort into the Lodge (lotsa charity money, starting masonic education courses, organizing dinners) Kinda like a "lifer" recognition.

If he is a 32nd degree Mason, which isn't really that big of a deal, any Mason can do it by sparing a few extra days a month and by keeping your dues current.

Im telling you guys tho, while everyone is concerned with SR, the YR guys go under the radar and their degrees contain waaaaaay more esoteric info than the SR. YR is also more Christian based, and belief in Jesus is required, as opposed to SR, which is more open-spiritual based.

See if he has a SR signet ring. Most SR guys are pretty proud of it. Like I said tho, any MM can get to 32nd degree, despite what you hear.


BTW: All of this info is available online, Duncan's Rituals are published all over the place which lists the "secret degrees" verbatim, as that is what most modern Masons use to study for degree work anyway. Even the grips, tokens, signs, and passwords are published! Just look it up people, that's how I found out. Like everything else, it is blown waaay out of proportion.

Sometimes I think the Masons like it to be more evil and scarier than it really is to maintain a certain mystique.
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
ask him what they teach you in 32nd degree that they don't teach you in others, and to describe the 32nd degree initiation ceremony

then watch his body language to see if he is making it up or recalling
Ask for details

DUH!
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They are sworn to secrecy to NOT reveal the degree to "cowans".

So that won't work.
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
Can any of you tell me if theres a way to verify Masonship?

How big a deal is "32nd degree? (ie: how hard is it to attain 32nd?)

Does 32nd status require the Luciferian aspect (child abuse, rituals etc??

Any Masonic investigation sources you'd recomend??

Would it be dangerous for my kids to be around a 32nd??
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i know a 32nd degree freemason. they have a plaque given to them stating they are 32nd degree.

if he is legit, he has the plaque.
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LOL

Also, America is as Masonic of an idea as you can get. Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc., all the founding fathers were Masons. The Dec of Independence is the most Masonic document in US history.

To think it is all some Satanic plot is absurd. Do you really think G. Washington secretly worshipped Satan? IS that what he was doing in his tent during Valley Forge?

I loooove history! More so than conspiracy. Use critical thinking people! Freemasons made America, the Sons of Liberty were a Masonic offshoot. The idea of personal liberty, religious tolerance, and civic responsibilities are masonic principles, not British. Masons met in secret to avoid persecution from the Catholic church, for talking about things like the Earth being round and not flat, that kind of talk would get you burned at the stake! When the came to America they used Masonry to secretly meet up and plot revolution.

The good revolution! The one that made the constitution and the bill of rights! Remember? The America we all know and love and defend the constitution of? Written by Masons!

Yeah real Satanic..
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
Can any of you tell me if theres a way to verify Masonship?

How big a deal is "32nd degree? (ie: how hard is it to attain 32nd?)

Does 32nd status require the Luciferian aspect (child abuse, rituals etc??

Any Masonic investigation sources you'd recomend??

Would it be dangerous for my kids to be around a 32nd??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 816756



First you need to reach the New Jerusalem knowledge level. Then you can see freemasons easy. They use the multiple religious roman gregorian calendar system with President's Day as their main holiday since they focus on the system of man.

However, some are getting cured and turning to the New Jerusalem. You would have to see what your friend thought of the New Jerusalem to see what type freemason he is. If he doesn't have a passion for the LORD just don't hang out that much. Or try to cure him.


Thu Nov 9/19
 Quoting: New JerUSAlem Russ


The main Masonic holiday is June 24th, the Summer Solstice, the feast of St. John the Baptist, one of the 2 patron saints.

Do you guys have any research skills whatsoever?
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
They don't keep it a secret. If he is 32nd degree he has a white hat to wear at their satan worshipping sessions. Ask to see his fez. He will also have a lot of lodge pictures with his minions.

I know one who is in his 70s. He molested his daughter from birth well into her 30s and even after she was married. Sometimes he did this in the mason's lodge. Whether others watched or not I don't know.

His wife is very high in the eastern star cult they have for the women. She just won some matron award and all the women will wear red dresses at the ceremony. They always have one mason present at their functions. Whether the women are complicit or it's just something to keep them busy while the men do their thing I don't know.
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They don't keep it a secret. If he is 32nd degree he has a white hat to wear at their satan worshipping sessions. Ask to see his fez. He will also have a lot of lodge pictures with his minions.

I know one who is in his 70s. He molested his daughter from birth well into her 30s and even after she was married. Sometimes he did this in the mason's lodge. Whether others watched or not I don't know.

His wife is very high in the eastern star cult they have for the women. She just won some matron award and all the women will wear red dresses at the ceremony. They always have one mason present at their functions. Whether the women are complicit or it's just something to keep them busy while the men do their thing I don't know.
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The ones who molest children the most are often very religious. Be it Evangelical Christian, Catholic, Islamic, Jewish, Baptist.

Just look at the news..

Its pretty plain to see the ultra faithful are the most demented people on this planet.

If it were my call, all sexual deviants would be executed.
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It's funny that you put in 3 flavors of Christians. I see what it takes to become a 32 degree mason.
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It's funny that you put in 3 flavors of Christians. I see what it takes to become a 32 degree mason.
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I dislike religion. & I would NEVER pay money to join an organization that would tell me what to think or believe. Any of it, but Christianity really takes the cake for child abuse. Prove me wrong. The pope himself is complicit in the coverup.

Stop supporting organized child rape. If you're defending it, you are just as guilty.

Learn how to look shit up, google is your friend, all of this info is out there on the net. Masons, Jesuits, Catholics, Islam, Hindus, Tibetan Buddhism. Assassinations, coverups, UFOs, psychics, underground bases, demons, cryptids, alt. histry.
There is a whole crazy world of information out there. Start reading into things, it will blow your mind.

You can look it up and learn on your own, or do you prefer to just listen to whatever you hear and never verify anything. You'll never get anywhere to learning the truth if you just repeat bumper stickers.

That kind of mentality is holding us back from ever learning anything. Get out of the mob mentality.
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
If he told you

he's not ;)

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^ this.
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Ask has he done much in the field of gangstalking.
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Re: Someone close tome told me he's 32nd degree mason- how to verify?
The nice thing about a secret society is that it's possible to be completely full of shit about it and nobody knows otherwise.

32nd degree does exist in some Masonic circles, and some say 33rd also, although the mainstream of Freemasonry only goes to 3rd.

If you think about it, any pyramidal structure that goes to 32 degrees is full of shit to begin with: let's assume every person of degree n is in charge of only two people of degree n-1, then for there to be only one person of degree 32, there would have to be 2^31 people of degree 1, and 2^32 - 1 people in the organisation total. That's about two thirds of the population of the entire world. I don't think even the most paranoid will suppose that Freemasonry is _that_ widespread. Even the Catholic Church, the largest organisation on earth, only goes layman - deacon - priest - bishop - archbishop - cardinal - pope. So if the Masons have such an absurd number of ranks, then most of those ranks must be purely titular. A bunch of guys awarding each other ever-more-elaborate titles, most likely. Rather silly business to be honest.

At any rate, if somebody really was so highly ranked in a secret Satanic organisation, he's unlikely to go bragging about it to his neighbours. Your friend here is almost certainly even more full of shit than Freemasonry itself.
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If he told you

he's not ;)

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quite.

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