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>>>BREAKING NEWS!!! EPA declares 'air' dangerous to human health

 
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Coca-Cola: Bubbles 'Not a Very Large Part of Our Overall Carbon Footprint'
Monday, December 15, 2008
By Pete Winn, Senior Writer/Editor


(R) The Coca-Cola Company
(CNSNews.com) – Is the whoosh when you open a Diet Coke can a major contributor to so-called global warming?

Probably not – though, on the surface, it’s hard to see why not.

The Coca-Cola Company, which has become the darling of the environmental movement, is one of the world’s top users of carbon dioxide – a known greenhouse gas.

Worldwide, Coca-Cola’s operations emitted 1.9 million metric tons of carbon dioxide (CO2), according to what it told the Carbon Disclosure Project last year.

Coke won't reveal how much CO2 that it uses to inject into its beverages, but it is estimated to be even larger.

Coca-Cola spokeswoman Mary Kathryn Covert told CNSNews.com that the world’s largest beverage company did sell 22.7 billion gallons of soft drinks worldwide in 2007, the latest year for which statistics are available.

"We produce 2,800 beverage products, some of which are carbonated. The amount of CO2 varies in each one of our beverages, so for instance, a Coke Classic will have a different amount of carbon dioxide than a Sprite," she told CNSNewscom.

"We consider the amount of CO2 in each one of the beverages -- and therefore the amount of CO2 we use in total -- to be a trade secret. As you know, The Coca-Cola Company is famously protective of our secret formula."

According to beverage industry estimates, the U.S. consumes about 10 million gallons of soft drinks per year.

The American Beverage Association's Beverage Digest places the U.S. non-alcoholic refreshment market's total amount consumed at 14 billion cases (with each case containing 192-oz. of beverage.) Carbonated soft drinks made up 73 percent of the total.

The National Soft Drink Association, meanwhile, says the average American consumes over 600 12-oz. servings per year.

All told, the average American consumes nearly 60 gallons of soda a year, with young men, aged 12 to 29, the biggest consumers -- drinking over 160 gallons of soda per year.

That’s a lot of gas – carbon dioxide gas, to be exact.

So with CO2 off-gassing supposedly a major contributor to global warming, aren’t the bubbles in soft drinks a major part of Coke’s “carbon footprint?”

Not according to Jeff Seabright, vice president of environment and water resources, for the Atlanta-based beverage giant.

“We are taking carbon dioxide that is an off-product of other processes – gasification in particular, and others – and incorporating that into our beverages,” the Coke executive told CNSNews.com. “That is not a very large part of our overall carbon footprint.”

Experts tell CNSNews.com that Coke is probably right -- the fizz of your soda bottle or can probably has a negligible impact on the environment.

“I think you would have a hard time designating CO2 from Coca-Cola as a major contributor to global warming,” North Carolina State University physicist Dr. David Haase said.

Haase, founding director of the Science House, a science education forum and Web site that serves more than 3,000 teachers and 20,000 students in North Carolina every day, has pondered the question.

“One gallon of liquid soda contains maybe 3 to 4 gallons of CO2 gas," Haase said. "This is about .065 pounds of gas. The CO2 is often a byproduct from some other chemical process, and is generally not made just to fizz the soda drink.

“Burning a gallon of gasoline to drive to the grocery would add 20 pounds of NEW CO2 to the atmosphere. You would have to open about 300 gallons of soda to release the same amount of CO2 to the atmosphere.

“The U.S. consumes over 3 billion (55 gallon) barrels of gasoline per year and about 10 billion gallons of soda per year.”

From those numbers, Hasse concluded that “soda contributes 2/100,000th (.00002) as much CO2 as gasoline burning.”

Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal scientist for NASA at the University of Alabama in Huntsville -- who questions whether CO2 actually causes “global warming” – nevertheless agreed that the total amount of CO2 that Coke uses is small in comparison with the global total produced by humanity.

His calculations place the figure at 4,000 tons of CO2 a day -- worldwide.

“It’s all relative, 4,000 tons of carbon dioxide a day is a lot of weight, but compared to what mankind uses everyday in terms of total energy use, it’s really tiny,” he said.

Humanity produces about 70 million tons of CO2 a day, he said.

Coke, meanwhile, does acknowledge that one of the company’s biggest sources of greenhouse gas emissions lies in the 10 million or so coolers and vending machines it operates globally.

That’s why it is busy trying to replace hydrofluorocarbon (HFC) fridges with – guess what – compressed CO2 refrigeration.

"This matters because studies show that HFC emissions will constitute an increasingly greater share of global warming pollutants in the future unless business takes action," Seabright said.

Hydrofluorocarbon (HFC) refrigeration systems are 1,000 times worse for the environment, according to Seabright, and the company is working with other beverage giants to create the next generation in refrigeration.

It has also pledged to eliminate more than 10,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions each year -- the equivalent of removing 2,000 cars from the road.

Coca-Cola was named one of the top “green-strategy” firms in the world last week, according to the corporate environmentalism group, CERES.
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Well now we dont have to have Cap and Trade passed because the EPA just did that ...now under law they have given the ENERGY CZAR the power to do anything he wants to the "POLLUTERS" which by the way the number one polluter in the US is coal powered power plants..which supply about half the power to the US..so they are going to put fines and tariffs on them to run them out of business...we will lose MORE jobs..and our electric rates will skyrocket.

This administration is evil pure and simple they are destroying our country..pretty soon we wont have electricity in some areas of the US because people wont be able to afford it anymore and the power companies will raise their rates so high to make up for the new fines they will get that they will have to lay off people..!!

They are literally taking our country apart at the seams one by one..this is criminal and somebody needs to do something about it before its too dam late!
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I think the EPA is hazardous. Time to hang all those fucktards. I bet it would be amazing how great everyone would feel with all those corporation dicksuckers pushing up healthy air daisies.
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declaration of war on the people of the united states of america,just like obamas speech when he said {others peoples} no person would say that when talking about usa people.what do you think?
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The EPA, meanwhile, says it would regulate in a sensible way. The agency has already moved forward on two rules that would guide regulation of greenhouse-gas emissions, primarily through a proposal to set the threshold level at 25,000 tons a year and requiring such large emitters to report their emissions.
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Chemtrails, Haarp messed up weather patterns, magnetospher festering up. Go figure.
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PRICELESS!
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If greenhouse gases are so safe, please hook a hose to your tailpipe and pump it into the interior of your car while you sit there.

Amazing how fast some will get on their knees for corporate polluters.
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"EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in a written statement that the finding, which declares carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases a threat to public health, marks the start of a U.S. campaign to tackle greenhouse gas emissions."


SAY WHAT?

NOW IF WE FUCKING BREATH WE'RE ENDANGERING THE WORLD AND THE PEOPLE ON IT?!

Have things really gotten this out of hand? This is insane. I cannot believe this is what they're trying to say. WE FUCKING EXHALE CARBON DIOXIDE!!

Jesus.......
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Does this mean that chemtrails will be outlawed?
Does this mean that those who are spraying us will spend their days paying fines, and in jail?

Now there is change I can believe in.
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Sorry for the double post everyone but....

""These long-overdue findings cement 2009's place in history as the year when the United States Government began addressing the challenge of greenhouse-gas pollution and seizing the opportunity of clean-energy reform," she said. "



How in the hell are they going to limit the amount of CO2 we exhale? This is the type of science that led to the mass murder of millions of people prior and during to WWII. We need to say NO to this bullshit before they start limiting how many children we can have, what kind of activities we can do, or further rape our freedoms and rights.
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[link to wattsupwiththat.com]

Tells you the true scale of the fraud and scam and in detail as well.
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Moron

"If greenhouse gases are so safe, please hook a hose to your tailpipe and pump it into the interior of your car while you sit there.

Amazing how fast some will get on their knees for corporate polluters.'

Its the pollutants such as carbon monoxide, which is very toxic in the exhaust, not CO2 but you know that.

Its disinfo and misdirection like that that undermines all rational efforts to get to the truth.
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Coca-Cola: Bubbles 'Not a Very Large Part of Our Overall Carbon Footprint'
Monday, December 15, 2008
By Pete Winn, Senior Writer/Editor


(R) The Coca-Cola Company
(CNSNews.com) – Is the whoosh when you open a Diet Coke can a major contributor to so-called global warming?

Probably not – though, on the surface, it’s hard to see why not.

The Coca-Cola Company, which has become the darling of the environmental movement, is one of the world’s top users of carbon dioxide – a known greenhouse gas.

Worldwide, Coca-Cola’s operations emitted 1.9 million metric tons of carbon dioxide (CO2), according to what it told the Carbon Disclosure Project last year.

Coke won't reveal how much CO2 that it uses to inject into its beverages, but it is estimated to be even larger.

Coca-Cola spokeswoman Mary Kathryn Covert told CNSNews.com that the world’s largest beverage company did sell 22.7 billion gallons of soft drinks worldwide in 2007, the latest year for which statistics are available.

"We produce 2,800 beverage products, some of which are carbonated. The amount of CO2 varies in each one of our beverages, so for instance, a Coke Classic will have a different amount of carbon dioxide than a Sprite," she told CNSNewscom.

"We consider the amount of CO2 in each one of the beverages -- and therefore the amount of CO2 we use in total -- to be a trade secret. As you know, The Coca-Cola Company is famously protective of our secret formula."

According to beverage industry estimates, the U.S. consumes about 10 million gallons of soft drinks per year.

The American Beverage Association's Beverage Digest places the U.S. non-alcoholic refreshment market's total amount consumed at 14 billion cases (with each case containing 192-oz. of beverage.) Carbonated soft drinks made up 73 percent of the total.

The National Soft Drink Association, meanwhile, says the average American consumes over 600 12-oz. servings per year.

All told, the average American consumes nearly 60 gallons of soda a year, with young men, aged 12 to 29, the biggest consumers -- drinking over 160 gallons of soda per year.

That’s a lot of gas – carbon dioxide gas, to be exact.

So with CO2 off-gassing supposedly a major contributor to global warming, aren’t the bubbles in soft drinks a major part of Coke’s “carbon footprint?”

Not according to Jeff Seabright, vice president of environment and water resources, for the Atlanta-based beverage giant.

“We are taking carbon dioxide that is an off-product of other processes – gasification in particular, and others – and incorporating that into our beverages,” the Coke executive told CNSNews.com. “That is not a very large part of our overall carbon footprint.”

Experts tell CNSNews.com that Coke is probably right -- the fizz of your soda bottle or can probably has a negligible impact on the environment.

“I think you would have a hard time designating CO2 from Coca-Cola as a major contributor to global warming,” North Carolina State University physicist Dr. David Haase said.

Haase, founding director of the Science House, a science education forum and Web site that serves more than 3,000 teachers and 20,000 students in North Carolina every day, has pondered the question.

“One gallon of liquid soda contains maybe 3 to 4 gallons of CO2 gas," Haase said. "This is about .065 pounds of gas. The CO2 is often a byproduct from some other chemical process, and is generally not made just to fizz the soda drink.

“Burning a gallon of gasoline to drive to the grocery would add 20 pounds of NEW CO2 to the atmosphere. You would have to open about 300 gallons of soda to release the same amount of CO2 to the atmosphere.

“The U.S. consumes over 3 billion (55 gallon) barrels of gasoline per year and about 10 billion gallons of soda per year.”

From those numbers, Hasse concluded that “soda contributes 2/100,000th (.00002) as much CO2 as gasoline burning.”

Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal scientist for NASA at the University of Alabama in Huntsville -- who questions whether CO2 actually causes “global warming” – nevertheless agreed that the total amount of CO2 that Coke uses is small in comparison with the global total produced by humanity.

His calculations place the figure at 4,000 tons of CO2 a day -- worldwide.

“It’s all relative, 4,000 tons of carbon dioxide a day is a lot of weight, but compared to what mankind uses everyday in terms of total energy use, it’s really tiny,” he said.

Humanity produces about 70 million tons of CO2 a day, he said.

Coke, meanwhile, does acknowledge that one of the company’s biggest sources of greenhouse gas emissions lies in the 10 million or so coolers and vending machines it operates globally.

That’s why it is busy trying to replace hydrofluorocarbon (HFC) fridges with – guess what – compressed CO2 refrigeration.

"This matters because studies show that HFC emissions will constitute an increasingly greater share of global warming pollutants in the future unless business takes action," Seabright said.

Hydrofluorocarbon (HFC) refrigeration systems are 1,000 times worse for the environment, according to Seabright, and the company is working with other beverage giants to create the next generation in refrigeration.

It has also pledged to eliminate more than 10,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions each year -- the equivalent of removing 2,000 cars from the road.

Coca-Cola was named one of the top “green-strategy” firms in the world last week, according to the corporate environmentalism group, CERES.
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They should switch to nitrogen. It's less acidic than CO2. The bubbles are smaller so less burbing too. Beers taste better with nitrogen too.
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If greenhouse gases are so safe, please hook a hose to your tailpipe and pump it into the interior of your car while you sit there.

Amazing how fast some will get on their knees for corporate polluters.
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LOL!!!
There is a very big differemce between CO and CO2.
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Remember the most effective form of population reduction is to just starve them all to death.
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of which they have done, are doing and are in the process of doing to the usa. they are utterly evil.
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What a crock of shit, we busted em on global warming so they need to spin a new angle to create new laws. Now it is in the best interest of our health, blah blah blah.
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"EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in a written statement that the finding, which declares carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases a threat to public health, marks the start of a U.S. campaign to tackle greenhouse gas emissions."


SAY WHAT?

NOW IF WE FUCKING BREATH WE'RE ENDANGERING THE WORLD AND THE PEOPLE ON IT?!

Have things really gotten this out of hand? This is insane. I cannot believe this is what they're trying to say. WE FUCKING EXHALE CARBON DIOXIDE!!

Jesus.......
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they will command us to exhale only half as much. chronic farters will be fined.
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I think the EPA is hazardous. Time to hang all those fucktards. I bet it would be amazing how great everyone would feel with all those corporation dicksuckers pushing up healthy air daisies.
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ummmmm the EPA is ANYTHING but corporation friendly ... there whole purpose is evil

except for one ... that is the privately owned central banks of the world owned by very few families who have a vision of this world that is 1984 to a tee
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...and they've sited the major baseline C02 monitors near active volcanoes and other heavy c02 output areas. Nice.
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Oh crap. I never saw that... Good findcheers
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"In the face of GOP opposition, the EPA on Monday declared greenhouse gases a danger to public health"



And what is the most abundant green house gas on earth? WATER VAPOR. Damn, what an idiot!


BAN WATER
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laughlmaorofl

I am loving some of the witty replies in this thread.
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The EPA, meanwhile, says it would regulate in a sensible way. The agency has already moved forward on two rules that would guide regulation of greenhouse-gas emissions, primarily through a proposal to set the threshold level at 25,000 tons a year and requiring such large emitters to report their emissions.
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Say Hello to the next 3 letter Agency designed to screw us out of more money

Carbonabomb
Emissionabomb
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How can we save the environment?

We need to get Al Gore's hands as far away from it as possible....

[link to howtohelpsavetheenvironment.com]
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If they honestly were concerned and deeply convicted to solve global warming, these hacks would simply turn off the Microphones in DC...

Problem solvedabomb
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How can we save the environment?

We need to get Al Gore's hands as far away from it as possible....

[link to howtohelpsavetheenvironment.com]
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Global Warming and Al Gore....



Hmmm.



At least He can honestly say he invented somethingapplause
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If greenhouse gases are so safe, please hook a hose to your tailpipe and pump it into the interior of your car while you sit there.

Amazing how fast some will get on their knees for corporate polluters.
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thats called carnn MONOxide

it high concentrations over time it will kill you

table salt will kill you as well if you down a few tablespoons

drinking 15 or 20 glassess of water in a few minutes will kill you as well

wake the fuck up man this is a powergrab by the progressive elite has zero to do with saving environment or earth or temps and they are getting ancy becuase they dont even care anymore how stupid they sound imposing their will trying to make us all debt slaves and push us back into serfdom
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This take the pressure off of the senate, now they can go ahead with the health care debacle against the will of the majority. If they had to pass cap and trade in light of climate-gate and the health care, there would probably be riots. This way people will split their anger between senate and EPA.
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Looking into the Biosphere info on the interweb...

"Life was becoming intolerable for the animals inside the enclosed space, and the researchers were almost forced to abandon their mission. But then Julia and her team discovered that the increase in CO2 was due to an unanticipated super-growth of soil microbes, which in turn had caused unmanageable amounts of CO2 to be released during cellular respiration. The team designed a plan to recirculate the "used" air over and over again through a large water system containing mats of common river algae. Flowing over the mats was a constant stream of water aerated with the recycled air. Fortunately, the carbon dioxide level returned to normal, and the mission was saved."

There's likely tons more proof that CO2 has already been scientifically proven to NOT be deadly... If you're smarter than a molecule.
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Moron

"If greenhouse gases are so safe, please hook a hose to your tailpipe and pump it into the interior of your car while you sit there.

Amazing how fast some will get on their knees for corporate polluters.'

Its the pollutants such as carbon monoxide, which is very toxic in the exhaust, not CO2 but you know that.

Its disinfo and misdirection like that that undermines all rational efforts to get to the truth.
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Please make a sacrifice for your earth and quit emitting that toxic co2 from your mouth. :4:
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LOL, an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL experiment using Pothos plants, the effect of more or less CO2...

[link to www.co2science.org]
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Well the Reuters article just pretty much said it all. It's a done deal.....Snip:
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency on Monday cleared the way for regulation of greenhouse gases without new laws passed by Congress, reflecting President Barack Obama's commitment to act on climate change as a major summit opened in Copenhagen.

The EPA ruling that greenhouse gases endanger human health, widely expected after it issued a preliminary finding earlier this year, will allow the agency to regulate planet-warming gases even without legislation in Congress.

The agency could begin to make rules as soon as next year to regulate emissions from vehicle tailpipes, power utilities and heavy industry under existing laws.

"The EPA move strengthens Obama's hand at Copenhagen," said Joe Mendelson, global warming policy director at the National Wildlife Federation. "It gives him additional authority that if Congress doesn't pass climate legislation, the agency can put the country on the path to meet his climate goals."

[link to news.yahoo.com]





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