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Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.

 
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I won't deny that listening to Tool didn't have some kind of effect on me, that's for sure. That song illustrates how information seems to "slot" into place at times and then understanding occurs. Music is a good way to learn, so is watching video but unfortunately most are nothing but crap made for profit generation. We have the tools for people to be able to learn everything and anything, except it's controlled by a few who seems to fill the frequencies of sound and EM waves with nothing but meaningless drivel these days...

At the end of the day, it all comes down to information and communication. Petroglyphs are a form of communication, from thousands of years ago, rocks seem to withstand "time" more than paper or stories, maybe the ancient humans understood this better than anyone.
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Final bump for those who don't want to read all the pages, this is the crux of the information.

So I stumbled onto this today while searching for new information about cosmic rays and lightning. Interesting, to say the least. Check out the .PDF for images and have a look for yourselves.

The discovery that objects from the Neolithic or Early Bronze Age carry patterns associated with high-current Z-pinches provides a possible insight into the origin and meaning of these ancient symbols produced by man. This paper directly compares the graphical and radiation data from high-current Z-pinches to these patterns. The paper focuses primarily, but not exclusively, on petroglyphs. It is found that a great many archaic petroglyphs can be classified according to plasma stability and instability data. As the same morphological types are found worldwide, the comparisons suggest the occurrence of an intense aurora, as might be produced if the solar wind had increased between one and two orders of magnitude, millennia ago.

ON July 9, 1962, the United States detonated a 1.4-megaton
thermonuclear device in the atmosphere 400 km above
Johnston Island. The event produced a plasma whose initial
spherical shape striated within a few minutes as the plasma electrons and ions streamed along the Earth’s magnetic field to produce an artificial aurora.

Concomitant with the artificial aurora was a degradation of
radio communications over wide areas of the Pacific, lightning discharges, destruction of electronics in monitoring satellites, and an electromagnetic pulse that affected some power circuitry as far away as Hawaii.

*snip*

A. Lightning
Strong electrical discharges are associated with intense inflowing charged particles. This is the lightning most often seenin connection with atmospheric discharges whose tortuosity are the jagged and complex light strokes seen in the sky and accompanied by the sound of the shock wave.

B. Heteromacs
Kukushkin and Rantsev-Kartinov at the Kurchatov Institute, Moscow, Russia, found that, based on fractal dimension analysis of experimental data from plasma pinches, electric current-carrying plasmas are a random fractal medium. The basic building block of this medium was identified by Kukushkin and Rantsev-Kartinov to be an almost-closed helical filamentary plasma configuration called a heteromac [40].

*snip*
Petroglyphs frequently appear on the face
of rocks at heights and under conditions which seemed to
render their production impossible without the appliances of
advanced civilization, a large outlay, and the exercise of unusual skill.” Hence, like Humboldt, Mallory perhaps unconsciously subscribes to the idea that petroglyphs are other than primitive ritualistic scratchings [43].

*snip*
A discovery that the basic petroglyph morphologies are the
same as those recorded in extremely high-energy-density discharges has opened up a means to unravel the origin of these apparently crude, misdrawn, and jumbled figures found in uncounted numbers around the Earth.

Drawn in heteromac style (Fig. 12), these ancient patterns
could mimic and replicate high-energy phenomena
that would be recorded on a nonerasable plasma display screen. Many petroglyphs, apparently recorded several millennia ago, have a plasma discharge or instability counterpart, some on a one-to-one or overlay basis. More striking is that the images recorded on rock are the only images found in extreme energy density experiments; no other morphology types or patterns are observed [46], [67].

The instability is that associated with an intense current-carrying column of plasma which undergoes both sausage and helix deformations. Such a current would be produced if the solar flux from the Sun were to increase one or two magnitudes or if another source of plasma were to enter the solar system.

*snip*
Two important classes of petroglyphs, spirals and concentric
horseshoes, are not discussed in this paper. These map the
Birkeland currents as depicted in Fig. 4 and provide quantitative information on the electrical parameters. These, including solar wind-magnetosphere interactions, are being studied with TRISTAN [8], [24], [69] and will be presented elsewhere.

[link to www.scribd.com]





If a paid member could do me a favour and add in the image of the plasma column flow around the Earth from Anthony Perrat's second part of the paper [link to www.scribd.com] I would be very grateful, I think something like that is amazing, and it was all put together from using LOS (line of sight) of found petroglyphs with what parts of the sky can be seen and simulated with a super computer. All together, millions of petroglyphs show a gigantic column of light flowing past the Earth. And this was an event witnessed by many people world wide and recored the only way they could or maybe it was more of a communication, petroglyphs outlast books any day.


Hey Xenus I hope this helps you! :) (sorry about the huge size of some of the pics)

Zpinch pics from lab experiments:


Zpinch

Birklandglobe

Ancient Petroglyphs:

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Something interesting possibly related to plasma.

LONG-DELAY RADIO ECHOES: During the geomagnetic storm of Nov. 27th, a brief but intense G2-class event, amateur radio operator Peter Brogl of Fürth, Germany, experienced a strange phenomenon. Forty-six seconds after he transmitted his call sign at 7 MHz, he received an echo of his own transmission. "At first, I thought someone was playing tricks on me," says Brogl, "but I changed frequency, re-keyed my call sign (DK6NP), and got another echo." This went on for more than an hour, enough time for Brogl to make several recordings. First reported in 1927 by Norwegian civil engineer Jørgen Hals, long-delay radio echoes are rare and poorly understood. Unusual propagation conditions linked to solar storms is one of many possible explanations. Radio operators, if you experienced any similar phenomena on Nov. 27th between 1800 UT and 19:30 UT, please report your observations to Peter Brogl for correlation.
[link to spaceweather.com]

One possible explanation for these signals;

Reflection from distant plasma clouds coming originally from the sun.
Freyman [14] did experiments at 9.9 MHz and detected several thousand echoes of delay up to 16 seconds at times when solar plasma probably entered the magnetosphere.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Plasma "communicates" with radio waves, we can hear them in audio samples created by scientists coming from the sun, stars, saturn, jupiter and other magnetospheres on planets.
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We have had weather coming straight from the arctic the last few days.We rarely get snow and if we do it is generally the first week in January and melts that day.Anything else is exceptional.A few days ago we experienced thunder and lightening and snow together.This snow has not melted yet.Someone on this site also uploaded pictures of lightening discharging over Dublin Bay at the same time with freezing temperatures and snow.This is rare there too.I was wondering if the air from the Arctic could be very negatively charged and very cold presumably meeting the positively charged land would cause the discharged.Though it seems strange to get snow as you would think there would be some heat effect due to the discharge.Though I do not really know whether the plasma produces heat? if indeed it was a plasma discharge? I Presume that plasmas do not produce heat then? Any thoughts or should we put it down to Haarp and political wars or Thors/Zeus thunderbolts.
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We have had weather coming straight from the arctic the last few days.We rarely get snow and if we do it is generally the first week in January and melts that day.Anything else is exceptional.A few days ago we experienced thunder and lightening and snow together.This snow has not melted yet.Someone on this site also uploaded pictures of lightening discharging over Dublin Bay at the same time with freezing temperatures and snow.This is rare there too.I was wondering if the air from the Arctic could be very negatively charged and very cold presumably meeting the positively charged land would cause the discharged.Though it seems strange to get snow as you would think there would be some heat effect due to the discharge.Though I do not really know whether the plasma produces heat? if indeed it was a plasma discharge? I Presume that plasmas do not produce heat then? Any thoughts or should we put it down to Haarp and political wars or Thors/Zeus thunderbolts.
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Do cosmic rays cause lightning?
Decades of electric field measurements made inside thunderstorms have failed to find large enough electric fields to cause a spark, even when the effects of precipitation are taken into account. Since we know that lightning does occur—in fact, it strikes the earth about four million times a day—we must be missing something in our understanding.

A mechanism proposed by Russian physicist Alex V. Gurevich of the Lebedev Physical Institute and his collaborators suggest that the movement of large showers of energetic particles produced by high-energy cosmic rays—which originate from exploding stars halfway across the galaxy—might provide a conductive path that initiates lightning. There are indeed types of particle detectors called spark chambers that exploit this principle. In a spark chamber, a very large voltage is applied across a small gap filled with a gas. The resulting electric field is large enough to cause the gap to break down (or spark), so long as there exist some free electrons to get the whole process going. Think of loose rocks ready to fall down the side of a mountain. In order to get an avalanche going, all that is needed is the first moving rock. Similarly, when a charged particle (the first rock) passes through the gap, the ionization it leaves behind will cause a spark, which more or less follows the particle's path. For these kinds of detectors, the location of the spark can be used to identify when and where the charged particle went through.

On the other hand, the case of thunderstorms and lightning is slightly different. Unlike the spark chamber, the electric fields inside the thunderstorm do not appear to be big enough to initiate a spark, so in order for Gurevich's mechanism to do the job, he had to suppose that there were many, many charged particles passing through the storm at once. Because cosmic-ray air showers do not produce enough particles by themselves, Gurevich postulated that the thunderstorm gave the cosmic-ray shower a boost by increasing the number of energetic electrons through an exotic process called "runaway breakdown."


[link to www.scientificamerican.com]


Gigantic Lightning Jets Shoot from Clouds to Space

Strokes of lightning flashing down towards the ground are a familiar sight during summer thunderstorms, but scientists have capture an image of a rare lightning bolt shooting out upwards from a cloud, almost to the edge of the Earth's atmosphere.

These bolts of upwards lightning, one type among a variety of electrical discharges now known to occur above thunderstaorms, are called gigantic jets, and were only first discovered in 2001.

Since then, only about 10 gigantic jets have been observed, said Steven Cummer, who was part of the team that photographed this most recent jet. Gigantic jets are essentially the same as cloud-to-ground lightning, only they go the opposite way.

"Gigantic jets are literally lightning that comes out of the thunderclouds, but instead of going down, like most lightning strokes do, these apparently find their way out the tops of thunderclouds, and then keep going and keep going and keep going until they run into something that stops them," Cummer explained.

The something that stops them is the ionosphere, the topmost layer of the Earth's atmosphere (right at the edge of space), which is made up of electrically charged atoms, or ions.

The observations, detailed Sunday in the online issue of the journal Nature Geoscience, confirm that gigantic jets transfer charge from clouds to the highest layers of the Earth's atmosphere, just as their downwards cousins transfer it to the ground.


[link to www.livescience.com]

Lightning, a high-voltage discharge that strikes quickly and sometimes fatally, is very difficult to study. A new and surprising finding by Florida Institute of Technology's Dr. Joseph Dwyer and his team brings the study of lightning research into the laboratory.

Already noted for his discoveries related to x-ray emission from natural and triggered lightning, Dwyer, an associate professor of physics and space sciences, conducted a related experiment recently. He was shocked to find that laboratory-generated sparks make x-rays, too.

"We know that x-rays are made in outer space--in exotic places like the center of the sun and supernovae--but we didn't think they could be made so easily in the air," said Dwyer. "The results should allow for the detailed laboratory study of runaway breakdown, a mechanism that may play a role in thunderstorm electrification, lightning initiation and propagation, and terrestrial gamma-ray flashes."


[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

A lightning researcher at the University of Bath has discovered that during thunderstorms, giant natural particle accelerators can form 40 kilometers above the surface of the Earth.

On April 14, Dr. Martin Fullekrug presented his new work at the RAS National Astronomy Meeting (NAM 2010) in Glasgow.

When particularly intense lightning discharges in thunderstorms coincide with high-energy particles coming in from space (cosmic rays), nature provides the right conditions to form a giant particle accelerator above the thunderclouds.

The cosmic rays strip off electrons from air molecules and these electrons are accelerated upwards by the electric field of the lightning discharge. The free electrons and the lightning electric field then make up a natural particle accelerator.

*snip*

Dr Fullekrug comments: "It's intriguing to see that nature creates particle accelerators just a few miles above our heads. Once these new missions study them in more detail from space we should get a far better idea of how they actually work. They provide a fascinating example of the interaction between the Earth and the wider Universe."

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

Lightning is plasma, emitting x-rays and visible light. The only natural state of matter that can emit light and other EM frequencies. It's also one of my favourite types of plasma. There are many links between cosmic rays and lightning, cosmic ray monitors are known as neutron monitors.

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Transient Luminous Events

Until recently, it was thought that the dazzling display of light offered by a thunderstorm was confined to the lightning activity in the thunderstorm clouds and between the clouds and the ground. This changed in 1989 with the first scientific documentation of a brilliant optical flash well above a thunderstorm [Franz et al., 1990], following years of intermittent but persistent verbal reports of such high-altitude flashes by pilots and others [Vaughan and Vonnegut, 1989, and references therein]. Publication of the photograph of the flash stoked a great amount of scientific interest in the subject of lightning-associated high-altitude (above cloud) flashes, and within a few years a menagerie of different kinds of flashes had been discovered. The different kinds of flashes were given fanciful names like "sprites" and "elves" to reflect their fleeting and hard-to-catch nature (and to steer clear of names suggesting causative mechanisms which had not yet been pinned down), and the entire category of flashes came to be known as transient luminous events (TLEs).
[link to vlf.stanford.edu]
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Weird weather here too. Today is the first time in my life that I have witnessed thunder and lightning during a heavy snow fall 1dunno1
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[link to www.holoscience.com]

Transient Luminous Events

Until recently, it was thought that the dazzling display of light offered by a thunderstorm was confined to the lightning activity in the thunderstorm clouds and between the clouds and the ground. This changed in 1989 with the first scientific documentation of a brilliant optical flash well above a thunderstorm [Franz et al., 1990], following years of intermittent but persistent verbal reports of such high-altitude flashes by pilots and others [Vaughan and Vonnegut, 1989, and references therein]. Publication of the photograph of the flash stoked a great amount of scientific interest in the subject of lightning-associated high-altitude (above cloud) flashes, and within a few years a menagerie of different kinds of flashes had been discovered. The different kinds of flashes were given fanciful names like "sprites" and "elves" to reflect their fleeting and hard-to-catch nature (and to steer clear of names suggesting causative mechanisms which had not yet been pinned down), and the entire category of flashes came to be known as transient luminous events (TLEs).
[link to vlf.stanford.edu]
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Lightning is one of those things which we take for granted and most people assume we know how it all works. It's laughable that we really know nothing about one of the most common events on Earth, occurring over 3 million times a day around the globe. We used to get thunder storms so often they altered the name to electrical storms, now we rarely ever see lightning. Melbourne is known for having 4 seasons in 1 day but the extreme fluctuations from hot to cold is now getting ridiculous.
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Also interesting to note that since the sun has been extremely low in activity the past few years, so have the thunderstorms. Now the sun is active again and there is more lightning after CMEs and flares, coincidence? The sun emits cosmic rays also. Cosmic rays are simply sub atomic particles like protons and electrons.
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If our magnetic shield,surrounding the planet is strong it should deflect radiation from space.The place where it would get through would be at the magnetic poles? well definitely where the sheild allows radiation in directly vertically.This explains the northern lights .Cosmic rays are everywhere ,they are not stopped by anything,The scientists were going down mines,where all other forms of radiation do not penetrate, to detect them.Thunder and lightening are the energy produced by opposite polartity ions discharging.I suppose the temperature is so cold any heat produced is not enough to stop the water falling as snow.Some heat must be produced from normal strikes as I have seen trees smoldering after a hit by lightening.But not that much really.So I suppose lightening is not hot like flame is hot.It is really like those plasma balls and the same colour light is produced. Thinking aloud.
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I do not remember these events from when I was young.We were not living in such a widespread electrical enviroment though.Interestingly whenever the Greeks and the Scandinavians made their myths the conditions must have been similar,so most probably our electrical use does not have too much effect unless they came fron before the fall.The pictures on the pots above imply that we are ok when the flow is as in the large diagram but not when the protective sheild is cut off.Now what would do that I wonder?
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I suppose a full on strike from a very large flare from the sun.They have drawn the hebrew yod.Yaweh was the hebrew god of thunder originally.No wonder there are all those empty tunnels around the world.Not by ice but by fire.
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Radio signals from Jupiter are not a sign of extraterrestrial intelligence. They occur naturally, caused by plasma instabilities in Jupiter's magnetosphere and fueled by powerful electric currents that flow between Jupiter and the volcanic moon Io. These radio bursts are so powerful, they can be picked up with simple antennas and receivers.
[link to spaceweather.com]

Not a sign of intelligence and yet the communications in space are never explained, only explained away.
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Arsenic Life Is Nice; Living Clouds Are Nicer

To life as we know it, with carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, sulfur and phosphorous, we can now add life with arsenic. Dr. Felisa Wolfe-Simon fed a little bacterium daily doses of the dread element, and the little guy slurped it up, chucked most of its phosphorous, and became an arsenic-creature. "It's a really nice story about adaptability of our life form," chemist Gerald Joyce told the New York Times, "It gives food for thought about what might be possible in another world."

Well, here's one possibility. The otherwise sane and respected astrobiologist David Grinspoon has been considering that under the right circumstances, clouds could become living things. With intelligence, even. Carl Sagan thought so, too.

A living thing, it is thought, needs to feed, grow, copy and evolve and persist. It needs some kind of shape. Clouds can do all that, says David Grinspoon. Though they look hazy and random here on Earth, they contain levels of order, they hold themselves together, they move around, they have routines. They can, in theory, produce increasingly complex forms of themselves.

Imagine a cloud of stellar dust several light years across quietly drifting through space. Powered by its own bursting stars feeding it oxygen, carbon, life-giving chemistries, could it not become a slightly lonely but vastly oversized life form? An enormous space traveler?


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I seems like I am not the only one who think it's very possible that plasma clouds can be considered living. Carl Sagan thought to so, I'd like to look into that more.
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Not sure if this article has been linked, but if so please disregard as I came across it reading something else. Its hard to keep track sometimes of things that have and have not been posted hf
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Although it is a spin off about plasma crystals, reading this helped me to understand better why the newest discovery of arsenic based life is such a big deal!!!

Always redefining things....might better have a disclaimer attached to everything that says 'we dont really know' :)
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So I stumbled onto this today while searching for new information about cosmic rays and lightning. Interesting, to say the least. Check out the .PDF for images and have a look for yourselves.

The discovery that objects from the Neolithic or Early Bronze Age carry patterns associated with high-current Z-pinches provides a possible insight into the origin and meaning of these ancient symbols produced by man. This paper directly compares the graphical and radiation data from high-current Z-pinches to these patterns. The paper focuses primarily, but not exclusively, on petroglyphs. It is found that a great many archaic petroglyphs can be classified according to plasma stability and instability data. As the same morphological types are found worldwide, the comparisons suggest the occurrence of an intense aurora, as might be produced if the solar wind had increased between one and two orders of magnitude, millennia ago.

ON July 9, 1962, the United States detonated a 1.4-megaton
thermonuclear device in the atmosphere 400 km above
Johnston Island. The event produced a plasma whose initial
spherical shape striated within a few minutes as the plasma electrons and ions streamed along the Earth’s magnetic field to produce an artificial aurora.

Concomitant with the artificial aurora was a degradation of
radio communications over wide areas of the Pacific, lightning discharges, destruction of electronics in monitoring satellites, and an electromagnetic pulse that affected some power circuitry as far away as Hawaii.

*snip*

A. Lightning
Strong electrical discharges are associated with intense inflowing charged particles. This is the lightning most often seenin connection with atmospheric discharges whose tortuosity are the jagged and complex light strokes seen in the sky and accompanied by the sound of the shock wave.

B. Heteromacs
Kukushkin and Rantsev-Kartinov at the Kurchatov Institute, Moscow, Russia, found that, based on fractal dimension analysis of experimental data from plasma pinches, electric current-carrying plasmas are a random fractal medium. The basic building block of this medium was identified by Kukushkin and Rantsev-Kartinov to be an almost-closed helical filamentary plasma configuration called a heteromac [40].

*snip*
Petroglyphs frequently appear on the face
of rocks at heights and under conditions which seemed to
render their production impossible without the appliances of
advanced civilization, a large outlay, and the exercise of unusual skill.” Hence, like Humboldt, Mallory perhaps unconsciously subscribes to the idea that petroglyphs are other than primitive ritualistic scratchings [43].

*snip*
A discovery that the basic petroglyph morphologies are the
same as those recorded in extremely high-energy-density discharges has opened up a means to unravel the origin of these apparently crude, misdrawn, and jumbled figures found in uncounted numbers around the Earth.

Drawn in heteromac style (Fig. 12), these ancient patterns
could mimic and replicate high-energy phenomena
that would be recorded on a nonerasable plasma display screen. Many petroglyphs, apparently recorded several millennia ago, have a plasma discharge or instability counterpart, some on a one-to-one or overlay basis. More striking is that the images recorded on rock are the only images found in extreme energy density experiments; no other morphology types or patterns are observed [46], [67].

The instability is that associated with an intense current-carrying column of plasma which undergoes both sausage and helix deformations. Such a current would be produced if the solar flux from the Sun were to increase one or two magnitudes or if another source of plasma were to enter the solar system.

*snip*
Two important classes of petroglyphs, spirals and concentric
horseshoes, are not discussed in this paper. These map the
Birkeland currents as depicted in Fig. 4 and provide quantitative information on the electrical parameters. These, including solar wind-magnetosphere interactions, are being studied with TRISTAN [8], [24], [69] and will be presented elsewhere.

[link to www.scribd.com]
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Re: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.
hi Xenus, in relation to your Jupiter video, here is another video...but about Saturn.



Off I went a searching; found this, kind of cool.

[link to ahrcanum.wordpress.com]

Saturn’s auroras obtained between 2005-2009 to show that, not only do the radio emissions pulse, but the auroras beat in tandem with the radio.

“This is an important discovery for two reasons,” Dr Nichols said. “First, it provides a long-suspected but hitherto missing link between the radio and auroral emissions, and second, it adds a critical tool in diagnosing the cause of Saturn’s irregular heartbeat.”

Auroras, more commonly known as the “northern lights” on Earth, are caused when charged particles in space are funnelled along a planet’s magnetic field into the planet’s upper atmosphere near the poles, whereupon they impact theatmospheric particles and cause them to glow. This happens when a planet’s magnetic field is stressed by, for example, the buffeting from the stream of particles emitted by the Sun, or when moons such as Enceladus or Io expel material into the near-planet space.



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Re: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.
HINT: Get to the point and drop all the psycho babble terms. No one will listen to you if you're not smart enough to summarize and state things in plain english
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STFU...if you're to lazy to think for yourself, go watch your Justin Beiber videos.
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HINT: Get to the point and drop all the psycho babble terms. No one will listen to you if you're not smart enough to summarize and state things in plain english


STFU...if you're to lazy to think for yourself, go watch your Justin Beiber videos.
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lmao

I was going to say...xenus, in my view, is one of the few that really does seem to be able to explain the science he reads in plain english and takes the time to do so 1dunno1


...did you have to bring that kid into it though LOL!! No to the bieber putin

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Re: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.
lmao...that was what you call spontaneous writing...
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Re: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.
Always amazed at how many threads have elements of this thread. The thread about "Giant Stealth Planet" story on Yahoo right now!!! Thread: "Giant Stealth Planet" story on Yahoo right now!!!

There was a post about the petroglyphs that have been found and also a brief mention about plasma.

Just giving this thread a bump as this is really a "must read" to help connect all the dots in this crazy world.

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Re: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.
HINT: Get to the point and drop all the psycho babble terms. No one will listen to you if you're not smart enough to summarize and state things in plain english


STFU...if you're to lazy to think for yourself, go watch your Justin Beiber videos.
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I was going to recommend using a dictionary and tell him to learn instead of being force fed dumbed down information... To me the terms used ARE plain English. Some can be technical jargon but what field of science doesn't have those? We all have access to the Internet, there should be no excuse for not being able to look them up and learn. We can get virtually any information we want with the Internet and within seconds, the only way people do not know something these days is out of ignorance and not caring. They are simply too used to having their minds filled with useless drivel.

hi Xenus, in relation to your Jupiter video, here is another video...but about Saturn.



Off I went a searching; found this, kind of cool.

[link to ahrcanum.wordpress.com]

Saturn’s auroras obtained between 2005-2009 to show that, not only do the radio emissions pulse, but the auroras beat in tandem with the radio.

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Plasma instabilities within magnetosphere are the main cause of radio emissions. There are also other more mysterious radio waves.

[link to www.newscientist.com]

Not sure if this article has been linked, but if so please disregard as I came across it reading something else. Its hard to keep track sometimes of things that have and have not been posted hf
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Not that exact article. I have the information in another thread and also sickscent's new thread;
Thread: 99.9% of the Universe Displays - Life-Like, Self-Organizing Properties, has Tendency to Form Cellular/Filamentary Structures - PLASMA

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Re: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.
Found a site that may have been posted previously. But for those that wish to understand the Plasma Universe here is great site in easy to understand language.

[link to www.plasma-universe.com]


What is plasma? We're familiar with solids, liquids and gases, such as solid ice, liquid water and gaseous steam. But heat atoms more, and they 'split' into free ions and electrons: a plasma, e.g., the electrified aurora, above.




The visible Universe is 99.999% plasma. The Sun is about 100% plasma, as are all stars. Plasma makes up nearly 100% of the interplanetary, interstellar and intergalactic medium. The Earth's ionosphere is plasma.




Plasma react very strongly to electromagnetic forces, and is the dominant force in many cosmic plasmas, e.g. stellar surfaces, active galactic nuclei, interplanetary, interstellar and intergalactic space




Space plasma moving through a magnetic field generates its own electric current, can act as a unipolar inductor, and conducts electricity better than metals, e.g. the heliospheric current sheet above, and Birkeland currents.





Strong radial magnetic fields can make a plasma pinch like the hourglass-shaped nebula above; produce characteristic filaments like in the plasma ball (top row); and produce particle beams as seen in the dense plasma focus.
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