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Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.

 
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I made a thread some months ago after starting to be interested in the magnetosphere, at this point I had followed the "holy shit the magnetosphere" thread for over 6 months and decided to ask some questions and share info in my own thread.

What is the source of all these Cosmic Ray spikes/anomalies lately? NASA answers but with more questions!

Thread: What is the source of all these Cosmic Ray spikes/anomalies lately? NASA answers but with more questions!

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WASHINGTON -- Scientists announced Wednesday the discovery of a previously unidentified nearby source of high-energy cosmic rays. The finding was made with a NASA-funded balloon-borne instrument high over Antarctica.

Researchers from the Advanced Thin Ionization Calorimeter (ATIC) collaboration, led by scientists at Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, published the results in the Nov. 20 issue of the journal Nature. The new results show an unexpected surplus of cosmic ray electrons at very high energy -- 300-800 billion electron volts -- that must come from a previously unidentified source or from the annihilation of very exotic theoretical particles used to explain dark matter.

"This electron excess cannot be explained by the standard model of cosmic ray origin," said John P. Wefel, ATIC project principal investigator and a professor at Louisiana State. "There must be another source relatively near us that is producing these additional particles."

According to the research, this source would need to be within about 3,000 light years of the sun. It could be an exotic object such as a pulsar, mini-quasar, supernova remnant or an intermediate mass black hole.

"Cosmic ray electrons lose energy during their journey through the galaxy," said Jim Adams, ATIC research lead at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. "These losses increase with the energy of the electrons. At the energies measured by our instrument, these energy losses suppress the flow of particles from distant sources, which helps nearby sources stand out."

The scientists point out, however, that there are few such objects close to our solar system.

"These results may be the first indication of a very interesting object near our solar system waiting to be studied by other instruments," Wefel said.

An alternative explanation is that the surplus of high energy electrons might result from the annihilation of very exotic particles put forward to explain dark matter. In recent decades, scientists have learned that the kind of material making up the universe around us only accounts for about five percent of its mass composition. Close to 70 percent of the universe is composed of dark energy (so called because its nature is unknown). The remaining 25 percent of the mass acts gravitationally just like regular matter, but does little else, so it is normally not visible.

The nature of dark matter is not understood, but several theories that describe how gravity works at very small, quantum distances predict exotic particles that could be good dark matter candidates.

"The annihilation of these exotic particles with each other would produce normal particles such as electrons, positrons, protons and antiprotons that can be observed by scientists," said Eun-Suk Seo, ATIC lead at the University of Maryland, College Park.

The 4,300-pound ATIC experiment was designed to be carried to an altitude of about 124,000 feet above Antarctica using a helium-filled balloon about as large as the interior of the New Orleans Superdome. The goal was to study cosmic rays that otherwise would be absorbed into the atmosphere.

ATIC is an international collaboration of researchers from Louisiana State University, the University of Maryland, Marshall Space Flight Center, Purple Mountain Observatory in China, Moscow State University in Russia and the Max-Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany. ATIC is supported in the United States by NASA and flights are conducted under the auspices of the Balloon Program Office at NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia by the staff of the Columbia Scientific Balloon Facility. Antarctic logistics are provided by the National Science Foundation.

For information on NASA's scientific balloon program, visit:

[link to sites.wff.nasa.gov]

"One possible explanation may be that the bump is due to a strong nearby cosmic ray electron source, such as a supernova remnant, a pulsar wind nebula or an intermediate-mass black hole. However, no suitable nearby object is known to exist.

A more intriguing alternate explanation is that the source is caused by the annihilation of dark matter particles. Scientists now believe dark matter makes up the bulk of all matter in the universe, outnumbering normal matter by 5 to 1. However, its nature remains a mystery. It is fundamentally different from normal “luminous” matter such as stars as it is invisible to modern telescopes, giving off no light or heat, and interacts only through gravity, making it difficult to detect."

[link to physicsworld.com]

So they have two unknown sources of these excess cosmic rays and since they cannot find them (or not allowed) they created the concept of dark matter. Scientists DO NOT BELIEVE. They know or they have theories they want to test. But science has NOTHING to do with beliefs. They came up with a wild and stupid theory with no basis in anything, except to explain away something they could not.

We don't even understand gravity, is it even a real force or a byproduct of something else? And here they are building a house of cards on a shaky foundation based off assumptions and no real evidence.
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Balloon flights high in the stratosphere over Antarctica detected electrons in numbers and energies much higher than what usually pours in from space, scientists on a project called ATIC reported in November.

About the same time, a separate report from Milagro, a ground-based detector near Los Alamos, N.M., described two unexpected patches of high-energy protons in the sky. A review of seven years of Milagro data revealed an unusual distribution in the energies of these cosmic rays.

Both experiments seem to show that the Earth is being bombarded with high-energy cosmic rays from a mysterious, nearby source. But scientists aren’t sure whether the results are related.

“You can’t say yes, and you can’t say no, because they’re measuring something different,” says Jordan Goodman, a University of Maryland, College Park, physicist and spokesman for Milagro. The ATIC group “is seeing an excess of electrons, and we’re at higher energies seeing the protons.”

An as yet undetected source, perhaps a pulsar, might generate both protons and electrons at these energies, he says. “If this is the case, this would be very exciting because no one has yet definitively found a source of these high-energy cosmic ray protons.”

[link to www.sciencenews.org]
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xenus is now on the path to knowing
where humanity is yet again going
it won`t be the same as the time before
the source of the effect is less not more
it isn`t our planets moving for this one
it is the plasma effect on our solar sun
knowing this alters all your perceptions
past present future without exceptions


i suggest xenus you also trouble to find
the effect of em waves on the human mind

this is not just a physical transitionl leap
it is a fundermental mutational mind peak

knowing the human is an electrical entity
shows you they are built with the capacity
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Query...ELF & GWEN?

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Dr Andrija Puharich in the 50's/60's, found that clairvoyant's brainwaves became 8 Hz when their psychic powers were operative. He saw an Indian Yogi in 1956 controlling his brainwaves, deliberately shifting his consciousness from one level to another. Puharich trained people with bio-feedback to do this consciously, making 8 Hz waves. A healer made 8 Hz waves pass into a patient, healing their heart trouble, her brain emitting 8 Hz . One person emitting a certain frequency can make another also resonate to the same frequency. Our brains are extremely vulnerable to any technology which sends out ELF waves, because they immediately start resonating to the outside signal by a kind of tuning-fork effect. Puharich experimented discovering that

A) 7.83 Hz (earth's pulse rate) made a person feel good, producing an altered-state.
B) 10.80 Hz causes riotous behavior and
C) 6.6 Hz causes depression.

Puharich made ELF waves change RNA and DNA, breaking hydrogen bonds to make a person have a higher vibratory rate. He wanted to go beyond the psychic 8 Hz brainwave and attract psi phenomena. James Hurtak, who once worked for Puharich, also wrote in his book The Keys of Enoch that ultra-violet caused hydrogen bonds to break and this raised the vibratory rate.
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To follow on prior post EM effect on the mind:

[link to www.prahlad.org]

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....It follows then that, if there are COHERENT mind (time-polarized EM energy) changes in lots of minds, that coherence will coherently sum over time and will appear as ordered signals in the presence of noise or randomness --- in short, as chaos. That is because the electrons in detectors detecting the disorder (the randomness) will also be transducing and detecting that coherent presence of sufficient "time-polarized mind electromagnetics" to provide a clear distinction of the overall signal.

This is the old "coming events cast their shadows before" conundrum. There is a real physics involved.

Once one connects mind operations to time-polarized EM waves and photons, then there is a somewhat straightforward dual mechanism that (1) connects mind operations to the body, and (2) connects body changes to the mind. Both mechanisms are directly engineerable.
<snip>


Interesting article to read further if you are so inclined.
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Once when I was stoned, not too long ago, I had the weirdest thought, I tried to imagine what it would be an electron. The electrical impulses in our brains are electrons. They create neural pathways and travel around in the brain. Then is consciousness electrons? Or a special configuration of electrons within our brains? We know you need electricity for life, because without it we are brain dead and the body is a useless shell without the brain. Look at people in comas.
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Once when I was stoned, not too long ago, I had the weirdest thought, I tried to imagine what it would be an electron. The electrical impulses in our brains are electrons. They create neural pathways and travel around in the brain. Then is consciousness electrons? Or a special configuration of electrons within our brains? We know you need electricity for life, because without it we are brain dead and the body is a useless shell without the brain. Look at people in comas.
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Interesting thought. I was thinking about all the connections last night while I was at work (made some notes to myself for research today). Some of it was trying to find out how the neurons fire, whether synapses are similar to fractals, etc.

I've done a little bit of looking into the atom and I think the body of it would be the neutron and not the electron.

just found this on the electron:

"As you may remember from chemistry, an atom consists of electrons orbiting around a nucleus. However, the electrons cannot choose any orbit they wish. They are restricted to orbits with only certain energies. Electrons can jump from one energy level to another, but they can never have orbits with energies other than the allowed energy levels."

[link to cas.sdss.org]

A couple of other questions I was going to ask myself today was whether there was plasma involved in the firing of synapses. And then how that relates to fractals.
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What if all the pyramids around the world, thousands of them, all the ancient monolithic structures, what if they were not mere tombs but shelters from electromagnetic radiation?
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Research

He organized several expeditions to Norway's high-latitude regions where he established a network of observatories under the auroral regions to collect magnetic field data. The results of the Norwegian Polar Expedition conducted from 1899 to 1900 contained the first determination of the global pattern of electric currents in the polar region from ground magnetic field measurements. The discovery of X-rays inspired Birkeland to develop vacuum chambers to study the influence of magnets on cathode rays. Birkeland noticed that an electron beam directed toward a magnetised terrella was guided toward the magnetic poles and produced rings of light around the poles and concluded that the aurora could be produced in a similar way. He developed a theory in which energetic electrons were ejected from sunspots on the solar surface, directed to the Earth, and guided to the Earth's polar regions by the geomagnetic field where they produced the visible aurora.

The scale of Birkeland's research enterprises was such that the time-honored matter of funding became an overwhelming obstacle. Recognizing that technological invention could bring wealth, he developed an electromagnetic cannon and, with some investors, formed a firearms company. The coil-gun worked, except the high muzzle velocities he predicted (600 m/s) were not produced. The most he could get from his largest machine was 100 m/s, corresponding to a disappointing projectile range of only 1 km. So he renamed the device an aerial torpedo and arranged a demonstration with the express aim of selling the company. At the demonstration, one of the coils shorted and produced a sensational inductive arc complete with noise, flame, and smoke. This was the first failure of any of the launchers that Birkeland had built. It could easily have been repaired and another demonstration organized.

However, fate intervened in the form of an engineer named Sam Eyde. At a dinner party only one week later, Eyde told Birkeland that there was an industrial need for the biggest flash of lightning that can be brought down to Earth in order to make artificial fertilizer. Birkeland's climactic reply was: I have it! There were no more attempts to sell the firearms company, and he worked with Eyde only long enough to build a plasma arc device for the nitrogen fixation process. The pair worked to develop the prototype furnace into a design that was economically viable for large-scale manufacture. The resulting company, Norsk Hydro, hugely enriched Norway and Birkeland then enjoyed adequate funding for his only real interest: research.

The fact that Birkeland joined with Eyde as a business partner, appears to have been one of the reasons why Birkeland was unsuccessful in being awarded the Nobel Prize for his idea. Eyde wanted to be nominated along with Birkeland, however the Nobel Prize is designed to recognise the original idea, not any commercial applications. This resulted in a possibly contentious nomination, and this combined with the fact that at that time relations between Sweden and Norway were delicate, meant that he wasn't nominated by the committee.

In 1913, Birkeland may have been the first to predict that plasma was ubiquitous in space. He wrote: "It seems to be a natural consequence of our points of view to assume that the whole of space is filled with electrons and flying electric ions of all kinds. We have assumed that each stellar system in evolutions throws off electric corpuscles into space. It does not seem unreasonable therefore to think that the greater part of the material masses in the universe is found, not in the solar systems or nebulae, but in "empty" space."[5]

In 1916, Birkeland was probably the first person to successfully predict that the solar wind behaves as do all charged particles in an electric field, "From a physical point of view it is most probable that solar rays are neither exclusively negative nor positive rays, but of both kinds"[6] In other words, the Solar Wind consists of both negative electrons and positive ions.
Umm, rofl, I just looked up Kristian Olaf Birkeland, the guy who figured out what aurora was. I knew he was from Europe, but I forgot he was from Norway... What a coincidence, not only is he from Norway where the spiral high density plasma event occurred but he was also nominated for the Nobel Peace prize 7 times, the same prize Obama is getting there?

Kristian Olaf Birkeland (13 December 1867 – 15 June 1917) was a Norwegian scientist. He is best remembered as the person who first elucidated the nature of the Aurora borealis. In order to fund his research on the aurorae, he invented the electromagnetic cannon and the Birkeland-Eyde process of fixing nitrogen from the air. Birkeland was nominated for the Nobel Prize seven times.[1][2]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Kristian Birkeland and his terrella experiment

Birkeland suggested that polar electric currents -- today referred to as auroral electrojets—were connected to a system of currents that flowed along geomagnetic field lines into and away from the polar region. He provided a diagram of field-aligned currents in his book, "The Norwegian Aurora Polaris Expedition 1902-1903". This diagram is reproduced on the back of the bank note in the lower right corner. This book contains chapters on magnetic storms on the Earth and their relationship to the Sun, the origin of the Sun itself, Halley's comet, and the rings of Saturn. Birkeland's vision of field-aligned currents became the source of a controversy that continued for a quarter of a century, because their existence could not be confirmed from ground-based measurements alone.

The absolute proof of Birkeland's field-aligned currents could only come from observations made above the ionosphere with satellites. A magnetometer onboard a U.S. Navy navigation satellite launched in 1963 observed magnetic disturbances on nearly every pass over the high-latitude regions of the Earth.

The magnetic disturbances were originally interpreted as hydromagnetic waves, but it was soon realized that they were due to field-aligned or Birkeland currents. The first complete map of the statistical location of Birkeland currents in the Earth's polar region was developed in 1974 by A.J. Zmuda and J.C. Armstrong and refined in 1976 by T. Iijima[7] and T.A. Potemra[8][9][10]
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Now, a lot of the info I have gathered over this past year is in the magnetosphere thread. Thread: Holy Shit! LOOK at the Magnetosphere!!

Big thread... I doubt anyone would spend their time going through it from page 1 unfortunately...



Birkeland suggested that polar electric currents -- today referred to as auroral electrojets—were connected to a system of currents that flowed along geomagnetic field lines into and away from the polar region. He provided a diagram of field-aligned currents in his book, "The Norwegian Aurora Polaris Expedition 1902-1903". This diagram is reproduced on the back of the bank note in the lower right corner. This book contains chapters on magnetic storms on the Earth and their relationship to the Sun, the origin of the Sun itself, Halley's comet, and the rings of Saturn. Birkeland's vision of field-aligned currents became the source of a controversy that continued for a quarter of a century, because their existence could not be confirmed from ground-based measurements alone.

The absolute proof of Birkeland's field-aligned currents could only come from observations made above the ionosphere with satellites. A magnetometer onboard a U.S. Navy navigation satellite launched in 1963 observed magnetic disturbances on nearly every pass over the high-latitude regions of the Earth.

The magnetic disturbances were originally interpreted as hydromagnetic waves, but it was soon realized that they were due to field-aligned or Birkeland currents. The first complete map of the statistical location of Birkeland currents in the Earth's polar region was developed in 1974 by A.J. Zmuda and J.C. Armstrong and refined in 1976 by T. Iijima[7] and T.A. Potemra[8][9][10]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Space tornadoes span a volume of space about the size of the Earth, and funnel hot ionized gas into the ionosphere, triggering bright auroras. (Andreas Keiling/UC Berkeley)

(PhysOrg.com) -- Earth-bound tornadoes are puny compared to "space tornadoes," which span a volume as large as Earth and produce electrical currents exceeding 100,000 amperes, according to new observations by a suite of five NASA space probes.

The probe cluster, called Time History of Events and Macroscale Interactions during Substorms (THEMIS), recorded the extent and power of these electrical funnels as the probes passed through them during their orbit of Earth. Ground measurements showed that the space tornadoes channel the electrical current into the ionosphere to spark bright and colorful auroras on Earth.

The findings were presented today at the general assembly of the European Geosciences Union (EGU) in Vienna, Austria.

Space tornadoes are rotating plasmas of hot, ionized gas flowing at speeds of more than a million miles per hour, far faster than the 200 m.p.h. winds of terrestrial tornadoes, according to Andreas Keiling, a research space physicist at the University of California, Berkeley's Space Sciences Laboratory.

Keiling works on THEMIS, which was built and is now operated by UC Berkeley. The five space probes were launched by NASA in February 2007 to solve a decades-long mystery about the origin of magnetic storms that power the Northern and Southern Lights

Both terrestrial and space tornadoes consist of funnel-shaped structures. Space tornadoes, however, generate huge amounts of electrical currents inside the funnel. These currents flow along twisted magnetic field lines from space into the ionosphere where they power several processes, most notably bright auroras such as the Northern Lights, Keiling said.

While these intense currents do not cause any direct harm to humans, on the ground they can damage man-made structures, such as power transformers.

The THEMIS spacecraft observed these tornadoes, or "flow vortices," at a distance of about 40,000 miles from Earth. Simultaneous measurements by THEMIS ground observatories confirmed the tornadoes' connection to the ionosphere.

Keiling's colleagues include Karl-Heinz Glassmeier of the Institute for Geophysics and Extraterrestrial Physics (IGEP, TU) in Braunschweig, Germany, and Olaf Amm of the Finnish Meteorological Institute.
[link to www.physorg.com]

The THEMIS team have their own website too. NASA have a THEMIS section also.
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What if all the pyramids around the world, thousands of them, all the ancient monolithic structures, what if they were not mere tombs but shelters from electromagnetic radiation?
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I don't know Xenus. A cave would have sufficed. The Hypogeum in Malta is a good example of what I think was a "pre-cataclysm" bunker. 5000-7000 bodies were found in the mire of it's lower level.

[link to www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk]

I think the megalithic monuments around the world were built after the devastation.
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quantum tells us that space is not a vacume
this enables a place for thoughts to assume
non local consciousness becomes easy reality
in a universe governed by cosmic electricity
instead of vast nothing between planetary spheres
a field that allows travel in instant not years
this field contains all that is needed to know
and to acess it first you must know where to go
you start by seeing that this field is real
after that it gets easy and not a big deal

google: non local consciousness
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You may like what Michael Cremo has to say.

He thinks we've been DEvolving since the Golden Times. I think he's right and I think this post is right on, 656642.

Cremo's on youtube, etc. BTW.

OP, thanks for a terrific thread!!
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Thanks, here is a link to Cremo

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The project was located at the Los Alamos Laboratory in New Mexico and focused both on the development of the fissile material to power the nuclear chain reactions which took place inside the weapons, and on the design of the weapons themselves.

Trinity was the first test of technology for an atomic weapon. It was conducted by the United States on July 16, 1945[4][5][6][7], at a location 35 miles (56 km) southeast of Socorro, New Mexico on the White Sands Proving Ground, headquartered near Alamogordo.[8][9]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

If the radiance of a thousand suns
Were to burst at once into the sky,
That would be like the splendor of the Mighty One...
I am become Death,
The shatterer of Worlds.


The Bhagavad-Gita

Ever since the first tests, a lot of UFO sightings occurred and they could have created more than simple aurora, maybe they caused the reports of glowing UFOs (not the metallic ones, those are most likely man made since we love metal so much).

There is also natural plasma phenomena in the atmosphere, I think the glowing type are a plasma phenomena, like orb lightning, elf jets, all those strange lightning and glowing type phenomena.
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google: non local consciousness

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[link to primordality.com]

<snip> (more at link above)

The Creation of a Substructural Thought

In order for a Universal Span to be created, two neutral forces must engage in a complimentary way so that their individual neutralities, each internally balanced of positive and negative forces, (opposite polarities of the about to become “twist of the circumference”), dynamically affect one another to the extent that they become unbalanced so that the polarities of each seek and interact with the other. Now each are no longer neutral, but communicating through an interactive condition of interrelated polarities. Joined, they become a substructural thought by the Fluxion of itself ..a new mind of the Cosmos ..whose Transcendent Tension of Wholeness is now translated into Sentient Curiosity/Creativity within the living extensions formed of it.

What are the “poles” of polarity?

A Pole is both an attractive and repulsive force, depending upon its orientation to other poles, but can only be so if there is another force to act upon. For how can it not be so, what will it attract or repel without this relationship?

If we take any object and separate it into two distinct parts we find that it was held together by its own self-attractive forces. As a whole structure, its attractive forces exist in a neutral, (balanced), state. During separation, external force was required to overcome its internally attractive force. As the structure is separated, its neutral balance is stressed as its attractive forces present some degree of difficulty in being separated – hence the use of external force. After separation the two parts each become balanced individual structures as their attractive forces settle down to equilibrium once again, but now in two diversified parts, (the repulsive forces of the poles held in place by the attractive forces maintain the distinctiveness of objects that we perceive as shape and form. The ability to remain as two distinct objects is derived from the sublimation of the external force required to separate the single object into two).

We now have two entities, each with balanced polarities. How could we recombine them? If we apply heat we may disrupt their internal neutral charges, creating polar unbalance and thus allow a recombination of attractive forces between them. When the heat is taken away, the polar forces calm back down to neutrality once again to form a single structure. This is the result if we melt two lead weights together to form one. Another way would be to cause them to orbit one another in a way that would cause their neutral internal forces to become unbalanced and again interactively attractive. Finally, in order for any combination or recombination of patterns to come about, an undividedness between all patterns must “pre-exist”, (must substructurally exist), every object of “Existence”. This undividedness is what allows and promotes the occurrence of all interactions throughout the Cosmos. Though subatomic particles may “spin” when observed, this perceived motion does not cause them to be separate. The attributes of “angular momentum” and “position” in dynamic interaction that constitutes what we call a “particle”, are expressions of the modified celerity of “Space-Time”, tightly woven in self-integration as sustained point/instants supported by the greater potential of the Totality from which they are generated and thus undivided.

(If we start out with the purely homogeneous medium of uncompounded Primary Consciousness, that medium must compound upon itself because of its own Tension of Wholeness upon itself. The compounding by Primary Consciousness upon itself is what transforms its homogeneous medium into the interactive complimentary forces that we perceive as the heterogeneous terrain of our reality and into realms beyond our limited perception).

In the case of two currents of Inertia, of Free Willed Consciousness..

The circling between the two entities allows a spherical translation of the circular motion of their interacting polarities. The interaction in itself is a translation of the forces between the two and thus mutual interpretation, i.e. translation between them is established. An electromagnetic flux is built up between them as they exchange centripetal and centrifugal forces - and as they circle, the flux develops multiple polarities, multiple interactions – as diversifications within this combined force between the entities. When the flux reaches a new uniformity - the circular “motion” is thus spherical and unified – the becoming of one Being – trans-emanating ..expanding outwardly and reciprocally compressing inwardly – ex-pressing as directionless “motion”. This is the Gravitational Complex of Primordial Will, of “Space-Time”, of which is formed quanta of Energy and Mass ..as perceived by life forms existing within and generated by this process.
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What do you think of these, OP?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Neolithic carved stone balls.



May be linked, in my opinion.
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*snip*
Two important classes of petroglyphs, spirals and concentric
horseshoes, are not discussed in this paper. These map the
Birkeland currents as depicted in Fig. 4 and provide quantitative information on the electrical parameters. These, including solar wind-magnetosphere interactions, are being studied with TRISTAN [8], [24], [69] and will be presented elsewhere.

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Haven't read the whole 5 pages, but did anyone besides me pick up on the connection of this to the Norwegian light spiral?
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*snip*
Two important classes of petroglyphs, spirals and concentric
horseshoes, are not discussed in this paper. These map the
Birkeland currents as depicted in Fig. 4 and provide quantitative information on the electrical parameters. These, including solar wind-magnetosphere interactions, are being studied with TRISTAN [8], [24], [69] and will be presented elsewhere.

[link to www.scribd.com]


Haven't read the whole 5 pages, but did anyone besides me pick up on the connection of this to the Norwegian light spiral?
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rofl stoner

I'm glad you picked up on that... that was the point! I did make the post before the Norway thing though, the night before, but it was just a coincidence I guess, I didn't expect such an event to actually occur within my lifetime.
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*snip*
Two important classes of petroglyphs, spirals and concentric
horseshoes, are not discussed in this paper. These map the
Birkeland currents as depicted in Fig. 4 and provide quantitative information on the electrical parameters. These, including solar wind-magnetosphere interactions, are being studied with TRISTAN [8], [24], [69] and will be presented elsewhere.

[link to www.scribd.com]


Haven't read the whole 5 pages, but did anyone besides me pick up on the connection of this to the Norwegian light spiral?
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Yes, OP found this information prior to the spiral. The 5 pages are worth your time.

Honestly, it is these type of threads why I am addicted to GLP.
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What do you think of these, OP?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Neolithic carved stone balls.



May be linked, in my opinion.
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That's cool... I don't really know what they are. Like I said, I came across the .pdf with Anthony L. Perrat's paper on the link between high density plasma that he works with and the rock carvings by chance... I was looking for papers on cosmic rays and such.
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google: non local consciousness



[link to primordality.com]

<snip> (more at link above)

The Creation of a Substructural Thought

In order for a Universal Span to be created, two neutral forces must engage in a complimentary way so that their individual neutralities, each internally balanced of positive and negative forces, (opposite polarities of the about to become “twist of the circumference”), dynamically affect one another to the extent that they become unbalanced so that the polarities of each seek and interact with the other. Now each are no longer neutral, but communicating through an interactive condition of interrelated polarities. Joined, they become a substructural thought by the Fluxion of itself ..a new mind of the Cosmos ..whose Transcendent Tension of Wholeness is now translated into Sentient Curiosity/Creativity within the living extensions formed of it.

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ohyeah Good link! Thanks.
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Once when I was stoned, not too long ago, I had the weirdest thought, I tried to imagine what it would be an electron. The electrical impulses in our brains are electrons. They create neural pathways and travel around in the brain. Then is consciousness electrons? Or a special configuration of electrons within our brains? We know you need electricity for life, because without it we are brain dead and the body is a useless shell without the brain. Look at people in comas.


Interesting thought. I was thinking about all the connections last night while I was at work (made some notes to myself for research today). Some of it was trying to find out how the neurons fire, whether synapses are similar to fractals, etc.

I've done a little bit of looking into the atom and I think the body of it would be the neutron and not the electron.

just found this on the electron:

"As you may remember from chemistry, an atom consists of electrons orbiting around a nucleus. However, the electrons cannot choose any orbit they wish. They are restricted to orbits with only certain energies. Electrons can jump from one energy level to another, but they can never have orbits with energies other than the allowed energy levels."

[link to cas.sdss.org]

A couple of other questions I was going to ask myself today was whether there was plasma involved in the firing of synapses. And then how that relates to fractals.
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Your post made me think of blood plasma and how it relates to plasma energy. Just some more food for thought...quite the smorgasboard here.

[link to www.ehow.com]

# Plasma makes up more than half of the blood supply in our bodies. Plasma is over 90% water, 6 to 8% proteins, and 2 to 4% salts, lipids and glucose. Plasma has several important functions including dissolving materials, participating in immune defense and delivering substances to tissues for growth and survival. Of all these roles the primary function of plasma is transport; plasma is constantly moving water, nutrients and waste to and from cells. Because plasma is mostly water, an excellent solvent, a wide variety of substances can dissolve easily into plasma. Plasma carries salts, sugars such as glucose, amino acids, cholesterol, hormones and waste throughout the body to and from body tissues. These solvent and transportation duties are vital to human health. Loss of large volumes of plasma, as in the case of severe burn injuries, requires administration of human plasma to aid in recovery.
Function of the Plasma Proteins
# Plasma contains proteins that are essential to immune function, specialized transportation and pressure maintenance within the circulatory system. The most plentiful of the blood plasma proteins is the protein albumin. Albumin aids the body by binding specific molecules for transport such as hormones, fatty acids, medications, bilirubin and calcium ions. Albumin also assists with maintaining blood pressure by preventing large amounts of water from moving out of the blood and into the fluid between cells. Additional proteins in the plasma called globulins also participate in specialized transport as well as immune protection.



Then there is the plasmapheresis where blood plasma is used to treat some medical conditions.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

An important use of plasmapheresis is in the therapy of autoimmune disorders, where the rapid removal of disease-causing autoantibodies from the circulation is required in addition to other medical therapy. It is important to note that plasma exchange therapy in and of itself is useful to temper the disease process, where simultaneous medical and immunosuppressive therapy is required for long-term management. Plasma exchange offers the quickest short-term answer to removing harmful autoantibodies; however, the production of autoantibodies by the immune system must also be suppressed, usually by the use of medications such as prednisone, cyclophosphamide, cyclosporine, mycophenilate mofetil, rituximab or a mixture of these.

Other uses are the removal of blood proteins where these are overly abundant and cause hyperviscosity syndrome.

Examples of diseases that can be treated with plasmapheresis:

* Guillain-Barré syndrome
* Chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy
* Goodpasture's syndrome
* Hyperviscosity syndromes:
o Cryoglobulinemia
o Paraproteinemia
o Waldenström macroglobulinemia
* Myasthenia gravis
* Thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura (TTP)/hemolytic uremic syndrome
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I've done a little bit of looking into the atom and I think the body of it would be the neutron and not the electron.

just found this on the electron:

"As you may remember from chemistry, an atom consists of electrons orbiting around a nucleus. However, the electrons cannot choose any orbit they wish. They are restricted to orbits with only certain energies. Electrons can jump from one energy level to another, but they can never have orbits with energies other than the allowed energy levels."

[link to cas.sdss.org]

A couple of other questions I was going to ask myself today was whether there was plasma involved in the firing of synapses. And then how that relates to fractals.
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One more then back to work for me:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Plasma was first identified in a Crookes tube, and so described by Sir William Crookes in 1879 (he called it "radiant matter").[1] The nature of the Crookes tube "cathode ray" matter was subsequently identified by British physicist Sir J.J. Thomson in 1897,[2] and dubbed "plasma" by Irving Langmuir in 1928,[3] perhaps because it reminded him of a blood plasma. Langmuir wrote:

Except near the electrodes, where there are sheaths containing very few electrons, the ionized gas contains ions and electrons in about equal numbers so that the resultant space charge is very small. We shall use the name plasma to describe this region containing balanced charges of ions and electrons.[3]
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The biological plasma may be what they needed to run the Ark of the Covenant.In the bible the planets were suspended in the firmament.The ancient monuments and ley lines could be the remanants of the energy system that the ancients used.The burials could be after the fall when the system was no longer working.Also I have read about large stones stored underground in various places from before.The equivalent of modern DVD's ? Then there are the tunnels underground in various parts of the world .Cappodicia in Turkey for example.
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Except near the electrodes, where there are sheaths containing very few electrons, the ionized gas contains ions and electrons in about equal numbers so that the resultant space charge is very small. We shall use the name plasma to describe this region containing balanced charges of ions and electrons.[3]
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Now see? That goes with the other post and link regarding balance and neutrality. Micro/macro.
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LOL, wow, I saw someone mention this in a post here before.

Doritos Makes History With World's First Extra Terrestrial Advertisement

ScienceDaily (June 12, 2008) — Today Doritos makes history, taking the UK’s first step in communicating with aliens as they broadcast the first ever advert directed towards potential extra terrestrial life. The University of Leicester has played a key part in the success of the project.

The Doritos ad (inset above) is being pulsed out over a six-hour period from high-powered radars at the EISCAT European space station in the Arctic Circle.
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

Note: The cleverly created advert features a tribe of Doritos escaping from the pack and sacrificing one of their own to the God of Salsa, as soon as there are no humans around.

Can you imagine if this actually does reach another planet with life somewhere and it's primitive humans or a primitive race who look up into their skies and see that and make rock carvings of them.... Gamma rays and all sorts of electromagnetic radiation (like light) are the best ways to communicate in space and travel long distances and not lose much energy.
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Since the fall we have with what has happened really polluted the areas in which we live.This is disturbing the Earth and the people who are living now.Perhaps ancestor worship is removing these energies.Walk lightly on the Earth so to speak.The older civilizationa denuded where they lived by cutting down the vegetation ,which absorbs the carbon dioxide which everyone is occupied with.Then started Agriculture which changed the composition of the soil to desert.Australia had a lake which they had regattas on . Now this has more or less gone.In about at the most 200 years.
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the ancient civilizations shared strong knowledge and intelligence having to do with space, they warned us of many things to come. If we ignore them, it is our own fault. TPTB are not ignoring them, i can assure you that. So its time to seriously prepare and for going through hell, then going to heaven.. .
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What about the messages going back and forward in time? worrying .I think in the mind it is possible to see forward and backwards in time.Once we were turning into our drive and someone was cycling down the road they went past and there was a phut as they passed the car.The person was a male with almost shoulder length hair.he disappeard .A few years later they built a cycle path along side the road.This must have been what the cyclist was using.As Isaid before my daughter saw it too.
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Can you imagine if this actually does reach another planet with life somewhere and it's primitive humans or a primitive race who look up into their skies and see that and make rock carvings of them.... Gamma rays and all sorts of electromagnetic radiation (like light) are the best ways to communicate in space and travel long distances and not lose much energy.
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That is what's so interesting about these papers. It's a completely different angle of interpreting the message. Mainstream archaeology has had a tendency to interpret the symbolism and structures as having religious symbolism and cult-like connotation of worshiping all these various gods.
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Yes. The Chinese were watching for comets? in the sky.The "Atlantians "went down a path we are skirting around.I beleive that this time it is all not lost.We can determine our fate as we are given free will. I think that nuclear physists seaching for ever smaller particles have encountered God who is producing smaller and smaller particles to amuse them.Even the names indicate this proposition.

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