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Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.

 
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the last time around even though energy was high
the way that it happened induced to many to die
a natural consequence of rare celestrial motion
a joining of systems caused the great commotion
now we are in a normal energetic transition
all intelligent life gets without exception
effects depend greatly on one`s expectations
information assists manage all imaginations
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Just like we transmit information via EM radiation like radio waves.


Magnetic field measurements of the human heart at room temperature

The "magnetically best shielded room on earth" has the size of an apartment block and is located on the site of the Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt (PTB), Institute Berlin. Magnetic fields such as that of the earth are kept out here as effective as nowhere else. Such ideal conditions allow to measure the tiny magnetic fields of, e.g., the human heart. This was the motivation for the American National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) to ask PTB to jointly test a newly developed optical magnetic field sensor. It is based on a physical principle very different from SQUIDs, which are usually applied for biomagnetic field measurements. The optical sensor does not need advanced cooling and has the size of a lump of sugar. A high-quality measurement of the human heart signal was demonstrated using this optical sensor. The sensor's suitability was thus proven for biomagnetic measurements in the picotesla range. In future magnetocardiographic measurement devices – to be used as a supplement or an alternative to the ECG – could become simpler and less expensive.
[link to www.eurekalert.org]

SQUIDS = developed by the military, along with the ability to create microchips with laser annealing and a few other billion dollar patented technologies.

Detection of extraordinary large bio-magnetic field strength from human hand during external Qi emission.
It is generally accepted that more than 10(-6) gauss order magnetism was not detected in normal human condition. However, we detected 10(-3) gauss (mGauss) order bio-magnetic field strength from the palm in special persons who emitted External Qi ("Chi" or "Ki"). This detection was possible by special arranged magnetic field detection system, consisted of a pair of 2 identical coils with 80,000 turns and a high sensitivity amplifier. Each of the coils were rolled 80,000 turns accurately, and were connected in series in opposite direction, actuating as a gradiometer. We measure bio-magnetic field strength in 37 subjects with this detection system. The only 3 subjects of them exhibited strong bio-magnetic field of 2 to 4 mGauss in frequency range of 4 to 10 Hz. This magnetic field strength was greater than that of normal human bio-magnetism by 1,000 times at least. A simultaneous measurement of bio-magnetic field strength and its corresponding bio-electric current was examined in one subject. During exhibiting such strong bio-magnetism, its corresponding electric current was not detectable. Therefore, the extra-ordinary large bio-magnetic field strength can not derive from internal body current alone, hence the origin of the large bio-magnetism is still unknown. We suppose that the extraordinary large bio-magnetic field strength might be originated from "Qi" energy in the oriental medicine or in the oriental traditional philosophy.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


I was checking to see if the body had a magnetic field too, it seems that we do but not the body exactly, each organ has it's own field, so tiny it's measured in the pico and ferro tesla scale.

Also going with the whole plasma is alive thing.

Bohm, a leading expert in twentieth century plasma physics, observed in amazement that once electrons were in plasma, they stopped behaving like individuals and started behaving as if they were a part of a larger and interconnected whole. Although the individual movements of each electron appeared to be random, vast numbers of electrons were able to produce collective effects that were surprisingly well organized and appeared to behave like a life form. The plasma constantly regenerated itself and enclosed impurities in a wall in the same way that a biological organism, like the unicellular amoeba, might encase a foreign substance in a cyst. So amazed was Bohm by these life-like qualities that he later remarked that he frequently had the impression that the electron sea was "alive" and that plasma possessed some of the traits of living things. The debate on the existence of plasma-based life forms has been going on for more than 20 years ever since some models showed that plasma can mimic the functions of a primitive cell.

Plasma cosmologist, Donald Scott, notes that "...a [plasma] double layer can act much like a membrane that divides a biological cell". A model of plasma double layers (a structure commonly found in complex plasmas) has been used to investigate ion transport across biological cell membranes by researchers (See American Journal of Physics, May 2000, Volume 68, Issue 5, pp. 450-455). Researchers noted that "Concepts like charge neutrality, Debye length, and double layer [used in plasma physics] are very useful to explain the electrical properties of a cellular membrane". Plasma physicist Hannes Alfvén also noted the association of double layers with cellular structure, as had Irving Langmuir before him, who coined the term "plasma" after its resemblance to living blood cells.
[link to ezinearticles.com]


Plasma cosmology has gone beyond hypothesis and analysis. There are problems with part three, of course, experimentation on universal scales, but the fact is that plasmas are highly scalable, and super-computing capabilities have enabled us to model plasma behaviours on galactic scales ... utilising only a few simple formulae.

These models are consistent with reality. Big Bang cosmology, by contrast, fails to adequately account for the 'clumpiness' and filamentary structures that we observe.

Plasma cosmology does NOT rely on abstract mathematical modelling or an increasing array of exotic hypotheticals like Dark Matter and Dark Energy!

[link to www.plasmacosmology.net]
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Re: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.
that`s why it`s so very important to know
how your environment operates in detail so
non local consciousness and other such names
mean something in your thoughts and dreams
then you will easily accomodate the linking
which will occur with the increased thinking
as long as you understand how it is working
your minds will be able to do the talking
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"the fate of the cell was based on the environment they were living in. So if you change the environment, you change the cells".

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Re: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.
Indeed, my mind's gone into overdrive the past week, it's almost strange when I go over information I already know but I understand it differently, it makes more sense now as if it's all clicking into place. Still not sure what I'm looking at however. At least now if anything does happen, I won't be fearful of anything. And if we turn into the uncanny X-Men then at least I'll know what to do, all those sci-fi stories will be put to some good use :D

If this all leads to destruction of the world as we know it then so be it. Death isn't anything to be afraid of, life is more scary if anything. Going out in the apocalypse is way more fun then sitting around waiting to die doing nothing. Plus, nothing anyone can do about it, so enjoy it...
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Does anyone here watch LOST ?

Do you remember the founder of the Hanso Foundation:

Alvar Hanso

Sounds a lot like Hans Alfven (the researchers from Thunderbolts have cited his works) :

Hannes Olof Gösta Alfvén (30 May 1908; Norrköping, Sweden – 2 April 1995; Djursholm, Sweden) was a Swedish plasma physicist and Nobel laureate for his work on the theory of magnetohydrodynamics. He was originally trained as an electrical power engineer and later moved to research and teaching in the fields of plasma physics. Alfvén made many contributions to plasma physics, including theories describing the behavior of aurorae, the Van Allen radiation belts, the effect of magnetic storms on the Earth's magnetic field, the terrestrial magnetosphere, and the dynamics of plasmas in the Milky Way galaxy.

Hans Ø. discovered electromagnetism in 1820.

In 1999 the Ørsted satellite was launched with the purpose of charting Earth's magnetic field. The findings led scientists to believe that there might be a polar reversal imminent, the effects of which could be cataclysmic: if Earth were to lose its magnetosphere, it would be vulnerable to massive radiation from the space/sun. The satellite also revealed an anomaly in the magnetic field under South Africa; it is pointing the opposite direction from the rest of the Earth's field and has been growing for hundreds of years.
Please Google this info. A similar idea was also used in the film 'The Core'.
[link to swordfish.wordpress.com]

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Lost Smokey

[link to www.docarzt.com]

[link to ncjl.files.wordpress.com]


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PLASMA Volcano (i love this pic, now my desktop background)

[link to www.songlinesmusic.com]

^^^ AWESOME PHOTO .. worth the Click ^^^
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Indeed, my mind's gone into overdrive the past week, it's almost strange when I go over information I already know but I understand it differently, it makes more sense now as if it's all clicking into place. Still not sure what I'm looking at however. At least now if anything does happen, I won't be fearful of anything. And if we turn into the uncanny X-Men then at least I'll know what to do, all those sci-fi stories will be put to some good use :D

If this all leads to destruction of the world as we know it then so be it. Death isn't anything to be afraid of, life is more scary if anything. Going out in the apocalypse is way more fun then sitting around waiting to die doing nothing. Plus, nothing anyone can do about it, so enjoy it...
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chorus You got it!
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the funny thing is i hope you agree if i say
every transfer of information is always two way
the same is true for what`s happening now
so the state of mind has a big effect on how
the incomming energy reacts to it`s new home
personaly i endevour never to let it feel alone
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the funny thing is i hope you agree if i say
every transfer of information is always two way
the same is true for what`s happening now
so the state of mind has a big effect on how
the incomming energy reacts to it`s new home
personaly i endevour never to let it feel alone
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Nope. Me neither. I have been paying attention to this effect for a few years now. Although, we are all going to interpret it's message for us individually BECAUSE we are at our own levels of understanding and perception.
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I'm glad to see everyone is coming around to the Electric Universe view. I have been posting stuff about this here for a LONG time and always just get BS flags. This event in Norway is proof of the Electric Universe theory. The Sun is a ball of plasma, not a fire in the sky, not a nuclear explosion, more like a gigantic ball lightning. This was a large plasma discharge exhibiting Birkeland currents.

View these websites, read em all, they explain everything.

Also in ancient times they usually considered Saturn as the Sun, ask yourself why?

[link to thunderbolts.info]

[link to www.holoscience.com]

[link to www.plasma-universe.com]
"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."
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This is also actively suppressed by TPTB because it is the key to free energy. The Sun is putting out so much electricity that if we can just tap into it, it could power everything no problem. No longer would "man make fire" from oil to power the world, and fight over the oil, EVERYONE would have plenty of juice to power everything.
"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."
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Re: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine.
that`s why it`s so very important to know
how your environment operates in detail so
non local consciousness and other such names
mean something in your thoughts and dreams
then you will easily accomodate the linking
which will occur with the increased thinking
as long as you understand how it is working
your minds will be able to do the talking
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Understanding PLASMA - a work in progress

i awoke this morning, i opened a book
the pages before me, please take a look


From Stephem Mehler, The Land of Osiris p141-2

"It became apparent to me ... there was a specific focus of research that Hakim (Mehler's indigenous teacher)was pushing me towards ... He kept emphasizing the primary importance of the role that water played for the ancient Khemitians and kept repeating the particular Khemitian term for water, Asgat. ... Hakim was emphasizing an ancient civilization totally dependent upon and highly conscious of the uses of the intrinsic properties of water. He continually pointed out a particular glyph, Asgat Nefer, and stated his belief that the Per-Neters (Pyramids), Per-Bas (Temples) and other Khemitian structures were built to utilize the power of water.
Asgat, of course, meant water, but it was his specific translation of Nefer that was the key. ... Hakim insisted on the translation "Harmony". Harmony in this sense meant beyond polarity consciousness, beyond a concept of good and bad, positive and negative, the state of balance, of non-duality referred to by masters as bliss consciousness. Water, then, contains the essence of Nefer, of being able to maintain and sustain all life forces. The Ankh, long known as the Khemitian symbol for Life and used as the form for keys to open temple doors or gates, also referred to water, in that water was the key of all life."

Linking this back to my earlier Egypt threads and how to utilize Plasma.

If the Ankh is the key; is there a plamsic equivalent shape, either naturally occurring or developed in a lab.

The shapes created in labs as shown by David Talbott - what happens when you use audio waves on them? (like the sound experiments on sand)

Anyway .. just throwing it out there

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(i feel like i've been sucked into the vortex created by this thread ... excellent work posters)
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Magnetic Water = Life

and to add to the above, it fits like a glove,
our universe electric, immense and magnetic


I repeat and expand my earlier posts about Magnetic Blood Cellsand the role of B12

In 1989, SOLSTICE magazine reported on the seeming decline—if not outright disappearance—of vitamin B12 from our food supply.

It bears repeating: Vitamin B12 is only produced by bacteria. No plant or animal can synthesize this crucial biological molecule. Micro-organisms that make this micronutrient are very common; they're found in soil, air, water, and the gut of ruminant animals. Herbivores get B12 by culturing this microbe in a special stomach (called the rumen) where B12 bacteria assist to digest cellulose to sugar. Carnivores get B12 by eating herbivores.

The shape of a healthy red blood cell is a flat disk with hollow faces—what we have if we wrap a membrane around a donut. This is highly suggestive of a magnetic function, since a donut is the shape of a magnetic field. We know red cells are rich in iron (Fe), a naturally magnetic element. An iron atom sits at the center of the heme molecule of hemoglobin, much as cobalt sits at the core of B12. Yet, there's little speculation in biochemistry of a magnetic function for iron in hemoglobin.

This biochemical geometry implies that B12-cobalt plays an unknown role in red cell magnetism. I suggest B12-cobalt winds up a red blood cell's magnetic field to activate iron's magnetic function. Indeed Mark Mead says biochemists believe B12 is a "diamagnetic coenzyme," which means its magnetism is opposite to iron. Without B12-cobalt, red cell magnetism is a loose, expanded field, and lacks the geometry and intensity needed to attract and bind oxygen. And oxygen supplies a second clue to B12 magnetism.

[link to www.dyarrow.org]
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Understanding how things all work makes it easy to see the interconnectedness of all things.

So maybe when we know HOW this all works, we can begin to question WHY.

Does it boil down to just "because"? Survival through creation and expansion?
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I had been learning about this from a different angle when I started getting into ancient sumerian mythology about a month ago. That led me to learn about Nikola Tesla, his experiments with "wireless electricity" and other things. When I saw the spiral, I was reminded of Tesla's experiments and The Montauk Project (lols) that a friend told me about. I want to know more about this. Great post bump
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looking back in time it`s possible to imagine
after the catastrophy a time of energy famine
the original environment had gone completley
and the minds of the survivors reacted meekly
natural energy centers helped their thinking
thus becoming sacred sites in an inckling
for thousands of years the sites are guarded
occult societies with faith and oaths waited
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the past hundred years the radiation is rising
just look at the way our thinkings been moving
are we getting cleverer just because of time
or is it our solar sun has a different shine
call it a cloud or a wave it does not matter
you see that our imagination is going higher
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for thousands of years they maintained our cultures
often being perceived as no more than vultures
with secrets and oaths they retained status quo
despite the wars and rebellions they never let go
driven by reasons that transgressed their own living
nobody ever realy knew where this was all heading
until more recent times there grew a single notion
all societies now become coherent in their motion
is it a coincidece for it to occur at this time
or is it also a part of our suns change in shine
could it be the deeper awareness of our potential
driving each and every soverign to a singular central
are we moving into a more natural configeration
giving us the shape for our energetic interaction
this shape has the possibility to blossom what`s in store
which is our global consciouness as it comes to the fore
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I can't believe the amount of info contained in this thread, I keep discovering new insights on each visit.

Continuing WATER manipulation, through Harmonic Resonance ...

this here from reading David Wilcox, The Divine Cosmos

Both the students of Buckminster Fuller and his protégé Dr. Hans Jenny devised clever experiments that showed how the Platonic Solids would form within a vibrating / pulsating sphere.

In the experiment conducted by Fuller’s students, a spherical balloon was dipped in dye and pulsed with “pure” sound frequencies, known as the “Diatonic” sound ratios.

A small number of evenly-distanced nodes would form across the surface of the sphere, as well as thin lines that connected them to each other. If you have four evenly spaced nodes, you will see a tetrahedron. Six evenly spaced nodes form an octahedron. Eight evenly spaced nodes form a cube. Twenty evenly spaced nodes form the dodecahedron, and twelve evenly spaced nodes form the icosahedron.

The straight lines that we see on these geometric objects simply represent the stresses that are created by the “closest distance between two points” for each of the nodes as they distribute themselves across the entire surface of the sphere.

CLICK LINK to see IMAGE >> [link to www.divinecosmos.com] <<

Dr. Hans Jenny conducted a similar experiment, a small part of which is pictured here in Figure 3.2, wherein a droplet of water contained a very fine suspension of light-colored particles, known as a “colloidal suspension.”

When this roughly spherical droplet of particle-filled water was vibrated at various “Diatonic” musical frequencies, the Platonic Solids would appear inside, surrounded by elliptical curving lines that would connect their nodes together, as we see in the picture, where it is clear that there are two tetrahedrons in the central area. If the droplet were a perfect sphere instead of a flattened sphere, then the formations would be even more clearly visible.

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Ok, just to bring up the main point of the again before we get a little too carried away with our imaginations.

So I stumbled onto this today while searching for new information about cosmic rays and lightning. Interesting, to say the least. Check out the .PDF for images and have a look for yourselves.

The discovery that objects from the Neolithic or Early Bronze Age carry patterns associated with high-current Z-pinches provides a possible insight into the origin and meaning of these ancient symbols produced by man. This paper directly compares the graphical and radiation data from high-current Z-pinches to these patterns. The paper focuses primarily, but not exclusively, on petroglyphs. It is found that a great many archaic petroglyphs can be classified according to plasma stability and instability data. As the same morphological types are found worldwide, the comparisons suggest the occurrence of an intense aurora, as might be produced if the solar wind had increased between one and two orders of magnitude, millennia ago.

ON July 9, 1962, the United States detonated a 1.4-megaton
thermonuclear device in the atmosphere 400 km above
Johnston Island. The event produced a plasma whose initial
spherical shape striated within a few minutes as the plasma electrons and ions streamed along the Earth’s magnetic field to produce an artificial aurora.

Concomitant with the artificial aurora was a degradation of
radio communications over wide areas of the Pacific, lightning discharges, destruction of electronics in monitoring satellites, and an electromagnetic pulse that affected some power circuitry as far away as Hawaii.

*snip*

A. Lightning
Strong electrical discharges are associated with intense inflowing charged particles. This is the lightning most often seenin connection with atmospheric discharges whose tortuosity are the jagged and complex light strokes seen in the sky and accompanied by the sound of the shock wave.

B. Heteromacs
Kukushkin and Rantsev-Kartinov at the Kurchatov Institute, Moscow, Russia, found that, based on fractal dimension analysis of experimental data from plasma pinches, electric current-carrying plasmas are a random fractal medium. The basic building block of this medium was identified by Kukushkin and Rantsev-Kartinov to be an almost-closed helical filamentary plasma configuration called a heteromac [40].

*snip*
Petroglyphs frequently appear on the face
of rocks at heights and under conditions which seemed to
render their production impossible without the appliances of
advanced civilization, a large outlay, and the exercise of unusual skill.” Hence, like Humboldt, Mallory perhaps unconsciously subscribes to the idea that petroglyphs are other than primitive ritualistic scratchings [43].

*snip*
A discovery that the basic petroglyph morphologies are the
same as those recorded in extremely high-energy-density discharges has opened up a means to unravel the origin of these apparently crude, misdrawn, and jumbled figures found in uncounted numbers around the Earth.

Drawn in heteromac style (Fig. 12), these ancient patterns
could mimic and replicate high-energy phenomena
that would be recorded on a nonerasable plasma display screen. Many petroglyphs, apparently recorded several millennia ago, have a plasma discharge or instability counterpart, some on a one-to-one or overlay basis. More striking is that the images recorded on rock are the only images found in extreme energy density experiments; no other morphology types or patterns are observed [46], [67].

The instability is that associated with an intense current-carrying column of plasma which undergoes both sausage and helix deformations. Such a current would be produced if the solar flux from the Sun were to increase one or two magnitudes or if another source of plasma were to enter the solar system.

*snip*
Two important classes of petroglyphs, spirals and concentric
horseshoes, are not discussed in this paper. These map the
Birkeland currents as depicted in Fig. 4 and provide quantitative information on the electrical parameters. These, including solar wind-magnetosphere interactions, are being studied with TRISTAN [8], [24], [69] and will be presented elsewhere.

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Dr. Anthony L. Peratt, author of the paper I showed you at the start.

[link to www.zoominfo.com]

ELECTRIC SPACE

The term 'Electric Space' was coined by Dr. Carolyn Brown, Chief, Asian Division, Library of Congress in the 1990s. The name was then used to innaugurate the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration Learning Resource Center's exhibits on space weather, space plasmas, and the plasma universe; as well as its travelling exhibits.

With the advent and widespread use of the internet, terms long used in the academic community such as plasma universe, plasma astrophysics and cosmology, and electric space, used in titles in peer-reviewed, archived journals, disciplines within physics and engineering, and in books by known publishers, started to become corrupted in the public domain. New terms invented by anyone with a personal computer and access to the internet has led to considerable confusion. Disciplinary names like plasma universe, cosmical electrodynamics, plasma astrophysics and cosmology becoming associated with like sounding names such as 'plasma cosmology' and 'electricity something'; but reinterpreted and finding favor with crystal-link sites, ufo sites, and others touting 'shocking stories about electricity', psychodelic trance producers and music, and other endeavors.


This guy is not to be taken lightly, it's not just a few of these petroglyphs that have these high density plasma events carved into them.


The recent THEMIS spacecraft discovery of two very large holes in the Earth's magnetosphere helps explain an anomaly in the global distribution of petroglyphs on our planet [1]. Previously, we reported a world wide GPS logging of some 4 million of these objects, each a picture of a filamental MHD instability carved in rock [2, 3]. In all cases, the field-of-view of the petroglyphs was true south with an off-horizon inclination between 21 -- 31 degrees. However, in a complete survey of the braided lava tube caves on Easter Island, petroglyphs were also found in long, true-north shafts, 50 m or more in length.
[link to meetings.aps.org]
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An email reply from Dr. Perrat.

Regarding plasma/aurora phenomena over Norway.

>Hi, just a couple of days ago I came across your paper
>Characteristics for the Occurrence of a HighCurrent ZPinch Aurora as
>Recorded in Antiquity, it was fascinating and I was just wondering
>if th[at] was indeed one of the plasma phenomena as seen in the
>petroglyphs found all over the world. The timing of such an event
>could not have been any weirder, since I had only just found your
>paper. I would also like to know if you think this was natural or
>man made? I am curious to see if this "anomaly" was due to EISCAT
>research centre or if indeed it is caused by cosmic ray flux or some
>other kind of space event.

This event was natural and occurs when two Birkeland currents
interact, usually around 300 -500 km above Earth. Birkeland currents
most often occur in pairs because of the 1/r attractive force between
them.

This is not an EISCAT heating phenomena.


Not the HAARP and plasma research facility, they do not have the capability to produce such high density plasma events, only minor aurora.
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Ok, this is the second email.

[link to plasmauniverse.info] -> Near-Earth Manifestations of the Plasma Universe.

Today we have only very weak auroras in the upper ionosphere. In the past, as NASA's THEMIS satellites have discovered, they were a million-million times more energetic and located say, 1 million km from Earth. Petroglyphs are pictures of these, we know, from thermonuclear explosion pictures underground and very high energy experiments in canyons. Also, from supercomputer modeling.

(I have to insert my question here for this to make sense)
And one last thing, given the rise in cosmic ray flux recently and the drop in strength of the Interplanetary Magnetic Field, can we expect more of these types of events in the future?

No, the cosmic flux will not change anything but dense plasma entering the solar system, as is now happening, will.

I sent him one more in order to get some clarification regarding the actual effects on our solar system due to this dense plasma. So far the only thing I know we can expect is more of these high density events.



The effects are still not clear, but you have to look at the timing of this dense plasma cloud entering our solar system, the sun being so weak and quiet, the solar wind is slowing down and particle density of the wind is dropping.
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An astronomically sized dense plasma field is in our solar system. It's flowing in from interstellar space, through the sun's weakening magnetic field...
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"Not the HAARP and plasma research facility, they do not have the capability to produce such high density plasma events, only minor aurora." That was not part of the email, that was my thoughts.

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Some spiral petroglyphs again, do you think they were carving rockets misfiring in the sky back then? :D
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i wish not to lead this thread off topic today
it`s that i believe it`s very important to say
that although the effects we will be getting
are naturaly here hence there is no stopping
the institutions that govern within our civilisations
have capacity to satisfy our collective imaginations
because the original roots of them all
stem from a common event they all recall
the sacred geometry and codes covering the globe
bring all of us together on the same straight road
it is no error that the chequred floors all show
they are directly connected back to egyptian pharaoh
there may be discussions of how it was and when
but of the event`s reality there is no question
this will be very important and useful in the near times
as our imaginations are stimulted by more norwegian signs

[link to saturniancosmology.org]

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your speak is wise but why in desqiuse
plain and simple is paradise
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I hope this link works ..

Here David Childress shows Lots and Lots of Megalithic Structures all around the world.

One particular place has over 120 Million Tons of Basalt

Highly Magnetic

Locals are scared to go to these sacred sights, and especially to stay overnight

They report glowing lights. Watch this vid with the knowledge of Plasma.

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Just quoting from another thread Thread: WE LIVE "INSIDE" A GIANT-CELL-ORGANISM CALLED EARTH WHICH CONTAINS THE WHOLE COSMOS

Are we living on a convex sphere, like science teaches us or are we living on the inside of a concave sphere?

Is God the center of his creation or should we place him somewhere outside, at the borders of the universe?


THE NEW WORLD CONCEPT is a biological view of the world. Heaven and earth are a giant-cell-organism. Results of research in all areas of science prove the reality of the inside world. All the ancient, educated nations handed down this natural concept of the cosmos. It was known as the heaven and earth of the Bible with the celestial sphere high up in the center of the world. It was also known as the world-egg of the Brahmans, as well as the idea of the world, which the old Nordic nations believed.

Information about proofs and exact facts on measurements can be obtained from:
Cosmic Research Institute
P. O. Box 1932
ROSEBURG OR 97470-0438
U.S.A.

In the center of the world is found the celestial sphere (hollow) and inside of it, the (spiritual) intellectual core of the universe. The firm, strong shell of the celestial globe envelopes valuable organs. The nucleus of a cell is a miniature picture of it. For all men this heavenly firmament is high above, upwards and to this spiritual center of God the believers direct their prayers. The celestial sphere is so to speak the head of the world.

On the outside shine the fixed stars. They are radiating points of light on the surface of the firm celestial shell. Around the celestial sphere wander the planets. They are, with respect to the celestial globe, small hollow spheres, but also live, giant cells, which carry an organic content slowly to the earth in a spiral and by a long lasting maturing process.

The dotted line around the celestial sphere represents the zodiac which is also the path of the sun. In the electromagnetic field of the inside world the zodiac is a physical reality, the energy of which is radiated to the earth partly as light and heat through the resonating body of the sun (the sun is a hollow sphere with contents). The curved white lines indicate the propagating path of light. Light is an electromagnetic oscillation and follows the laws of the electromagnetic field in its propagation.

This results in day and night and shows in the picture as the dark and bright half of the earth. The sun is shown (see the starting point of the radiation) at the tropic of cancer and radiates at close distance the northern hemisphere of the inside (concave) world. Therefore at this place there is summer and the polar regions have 24 hours of sunlight. At the same time there is winter night at the south pole.

The inside surface of this cosmic, giant hollow sphere is our earth surface on which people, animals and plants live.

The diameter of the concave world amounts to 12 750 km (8 000 mi.) and the circumference is 40 000 km (25 000 mi.).

What is outside of this our world nobody can say with certainty. Here are a few conjectures. According to the behavior of earthquake waves it is to be assumed that the earth's shell is about 50-150 km (30-95 mi.) thick. What lies beyond this is only known to the Creator of this world. It is to be supposed that outside our sphere of life there is a condition not to be tolerated by living beings. Life is always on the inside. From the inside come the powers of life and growth. By a logical conclusion everything that is hostile to life must be on the outside and matter must be dissolved into basic substances. The energy thus liberated is again absorbed by the concave world and utilized for the construction of matter and organic things. In accordance with this, all religions teach that beneath our feet is the underworld, darkness and absence of God.

Do you want to know why this biological concept of the world is not joyously received as new knowledge? It does not only agree with the faith of each of the great religions, but is also scientifically founded and exactly defined. We ask in return, whether ever in human history any basic knowledge and innovations have been accepted immediately? You know the answer yourself. Any truth does not exist for man as long as he has not recognized it.

How about you? Are you ready to take the trouble to check the new facts and truths and acknowledge them? It depends on you, on each responsible, individual person, man or woman, whether a good idea will find recognition and promotion. It is not the task of science to spread new ideas but only to teach that which is proven and improve it.

To answer the question whether the earth is a concave (hollow) sphere or a convex (solid) ball, the surface of the earth was tested for its sense of curvature, and it was found that the earth is a hollow sphere on the inside of which we live. In this connection it had to be checked whether a light beam is really mathematically straight or whether it is a curved line. The measurements showed that there is no straight light beam.

That in spite of all this, men were able to use the world model of modern astronomy and calculate the correct path to the moon and to the planets proves that it is a functioning mathematical model which correctly describes the cosmic reality using mathematical tools. Vision or seeing is a perception of the senses and actually the most important one for man in order to orient himself and for recognition. You should observe a baby in order to understand how difficult it is at first to literally understand what is being seen. Great difficulties even remain for an adult in judging what he sees in the distance, in the height and in the depth. Only experience can teach you. Can a reasonable person assume he understands (perceives and recognizes) if he sees a photo of earth from a distance of 200 - 300 km (125 - 180 mi.) altitude or even a photo of the earth taken from the moon?

Optical phenomena, such as the horizon, or a photograph of the disk of the earth from the moon, need a scientific interpretation from an expert in the field of optics. The physicist, W. Braun, has shown in a scientific paper on the subject of seeing in space, using the laws of optics, how the phenomenon of a "photograph of the earth ball" originates, and how this is interpreted when we know about the hollow sphere nature of earth. No scientist of renown has yet maintained, that the full shape of a sphere of the earth has been proven by a photograph from space or by using the phenomenon of the horizon. Professor Roman Sexl, from the Institute of Physics of the University of Vienna, Austria, has confirmed that it is mathematically impossible to disprove the statements of the physicist W. Braun.




If you are interested to find out more information and facts on this fascinating subject pertaining to all areas of life and science, please follow the link...

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Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield
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From same thread as above (just keeping information together)

Is it not peculiar that...

1. Every known form of energy decays, even light, namely with the square of the distance, and yet light rays of stars are still reaching us from billions of light years away.
2. Everything is subject to lines of force, (which are curved as is well known), but only light supposedly travels in a perfectly straight line.
3. According to French experiments (Prof. Allais), after 8 m distance it is no longer useful and geodesists (surveyors of the earth) have to use correction factors.
4. That night is never truly dark.
5. Even though light is supposed to travel straight, a glowing mountain can be seen even after the sun has long since set.
6. That the poles of the earth at the great distance of 150 million km from the sun do not receive equal amounts of heat, though the difference of that distance is only 6000 km.
7. That we have winter even though the sun is supposed to be 5 million km closer on December 12.
8. In all the seasons we do not have the same temperatures, if the sun is a glowing ball of heat.
9. All planets move from East to West, only the earth turns from West to East which is in the opposite direction to all other paths of the planets.
10. In a centrifuge all heavy materials collect on the outside (away from the center) only the lighter ones are near the center, yet only the rotating earth reverses the whole process.
11. The earth never cools off completely, although it is travelling in icecold (-273° C) space with a supposed velocity of 800 km/s around the sun.
12. That with this enormous speed in space, high and lows can form in the atmosphere, and everywhere a layer of air with the same altitude can remain. And all this is in addition to the earth's own revolution of 30 km/s.
13. That on a rotating sphere, the heavy land masses are found in the upper half and the lighter water mass on the lower half, instead of a collection of the landmasses near the equator.
14. That in the vacuum of space earth does not lose its air.
15. A vacuum conducts neither rays, nor light, nor heat nor gravity, but this is not valid for the sun and its planets.
16. Earth performs a revolution against its path around the sun.
17. That fixed stars do not show a parallax (moving from their postion) while the earth races around the sun 1.2 billion km per year.
18. That at a solar eclipse, when the sun is 150 million km distant, the shape of the eclipse is different at various places on the earth.
19. That fixed stars never move although they are found in a moving, expanding universe.
20. That we never see the back of the sun, although we are moving around it, while the low and high tides happen at exactly the opposite sides of the earth.
21. That Icelanders at certain times can see Greenland.
22. That one can see the Alps from the Arber and one can see Africa from Sicily.
23. That two plumb lines hanging in a deep mine diverge at the bottom instead of converge.
24. That the velocity of the earth was already measured in 1906 by two American university professors and in 1930 by the Zeiss-Works in JENA, and that each time the value zero was found.
25. That already in 1898 the direction of surface curvature of the earth was scientifically determined and measured without official science making any use of this (rectilineator).
26. That television amateurs in England and Holland received programs from Moscow, Peking, and Australia and those in Austria received programs form the USA and South America.
27. That in radio transmission, a second directional theory can be used which brings even better results.
28. That dust clouds caused by the landing of a satellite or space probe on the moon was 100 times larger than expected.
29. That you can not see any stars from the moon.
30. That the altitudes of mountains on the moon were not correct at all but showed values 100 times smaller.
31. That it is not possible to obtain scientific measurement data about the shape and size of the moon.
32. That on satellite flights, the horizon is always at eye level, according to a statement made by a former astronaut to his colleague in trouble.
33. That at the time when Stoltenberg was Minister of Research (Germany) and was visited by the astronaut Borman in Bonn, he said they had seen photos of the earth from which one could assume that the earth was a ball.
34. That based on satellite flights, one calculated a pear shaped earth while press photos showed a solid ball taken on a flight to the moon.
35. That a news agency reworked the space photos to show a solid earth.
36. That at an altitude of 200 km, one could photograph the solid earth, when the diameter of the earth was more than 12 000 km.
37. That with infrared photography one could see the shore of a 24 km long lake although one should only be able to see the roof of a boathouse.
38. That the magnetic field of the earth is supposed to be caused by an iron core at the center of the earth, although it is known that iron becomes unmagnetic at the Curie point at 750° C .
39. That Copernicus was a Lord of a Cathedral and not an astronomer, and he definitely stated that his world view was a theory.
40. That in mathematics for calculations of unknown magnitudes, one designs mathematical models which can often lead to rather useful solutions but do not always agree with the actual reality.




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Thank you AC 840595, great information.
Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. -- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

In seeking wisdom thou art wise; in imagining that thou hast attained it - thou art a fool. -- Lord Chesterfield
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written or oral is not my natural way
when i do it my tone often goes astray
linking the words helps me i find
translate exactly what`s in my mind
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See this man!

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That's Femto's scientific adviser that is!

Femto gets all his best sceince from him

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