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How to identify a Satanic infiltrator in a Church

 
New JerUSAlem Russ
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You should really find another outlet for your religious enthusiasm, Russ.

I (and many others, it seems) find your posts annoying.


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 Quoting: Aquarius 7



The truth affects some people that way but it is still the truth.

Let us examine the world. Vatican and Jewry pitted against Muslims in a huge clash of war death and misery.

I stand in the midst of them by the Spirit of God and the LORD Jesus Christ calling for them to end the bloodshed and unite into the New Jerusalem for global peace.

What is annoying about that? It is the truth of what they all should do if they were truly of God.


Monday Nov 9/23
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
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Sadly, it's far too correct.

I so desire fellowship with other believers, and would love to assemble together, but sadly, the brick and mortar "churches" have become nothing but entertainment centers that wrestle with Scripture, put forth false doctrine, and practice sin as an every day entree. They think that taking their "communion" washes all their sins away, so they can live another day in apostasy and destitution.

[Prayer aloud] Where, oh where, dear YHWH, can I find fellowship with my Brothers and Sisters?


This is very true, but I have had good experiences with calvarychapel.com. These churches strictly teach The Word and are nondenominational. If you go to the main website, you can find an affiliate church near you. They also believe in the gifts of The Holy Spirit in a strictly biblical sense.



Thank you for the suggestion...however, it's almost 80 miles away, which, considering finances, tranny going out in truck, and over 1 1/2 hour travel one way, it's not feasible at this time.


Why did you allow a tranny to go out in your truck?


chuckle
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LOL, not sure what you find funny about it, but I do find your post a bit humorous. As for the tranny...not my choice, if it was, it certainly wouldn't be slipping. Can't afford to get a different truck (dont want to either), and at this time, can't take truck in to have tranny rebuilt either. Finances and all are pretty tight right now. Dodge truck tranny's suck, fwiw...they knew of the problems, just didn't fix 'em. Motors are strong tho...truck has over 200K on it, and most ever needed to be done was the routine maintenance.

Back to topic...lol.
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Is Winged a member of your cult... i mean, church?


Ask him and you will be able to tell whether he is a satanic infiltrator or not. It is that easy. Try it.

Monday Nov 9/23
 Quoting: New JerUSAlem Russ

Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Russ, what are your fruits? A e-store selling marked up coffee mugs, aprons, t-shirts, etc? A confusing calendar used for money changing?
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1. Fellowship with fellow believers

2. Study The Word Of God

3. Go forth and spread The Gospel


This is the only purpose of a "church". Any group of believers that is being used for other purposes can be possibly a tool of the evil one.
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hey WL good topic!

please ignore all the deluded horseshit here and continue on!
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Thank you, doing this for a while I have tough skin to begin with. I apreciate those who actually benefit from posts like this, the enemy can't take that away from anyone.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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In my experience you do not do battle with "evil."

It's a paradox that's difficult to explain.

But in the earthly realm human power can only be "defeated" by human power.

You run the risk of becoming what you are fighting against.

Battling it actually gives it legitimacy and credibility. You "let it in" by naming it or fearing it.

What works for me is standing against it.
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I like this thread and I'd like to hear more from OP.

This story should back up OPs assertions.

Around 1969 I was a teen in a Pentecostal church when "Brother Jones" came into the church. Strangely brother Jones drove an hour and a half to come to this modest little church with his side kick Eddie... and sometimes their wives.
Eddie was a simple man.. and simply possessed.
Brother Jones was more intelligent and had REAL power.

I was telling my son last nite that discernment of spirits is perhaps the most needed and least valued gift for a pastor. Our pastor in '69 did not
have the Gift of Discernment.

As said here, the greater the HOOPLA in some Pentecostal churches, the greater your spirituality is perceived to be; Brother Jone had the gift of HOOPLA... so Brother Jones was made the Youth Pastor.

My mother was a bit strange herself, a past and current sufferer of PTSD, but she spotted ole Jonesy right off. She told the pastor but he was more impressed with the hoopla. My mother's discernment is why I sat away from the others. ONE nite Jonesy walked around praying for each of the young people and came up behind me at one point. I was praying to beat the band and strangely the only one he did not actually lay hands on that nite. My prayer was varying forms of "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus", "I plead the blood".

One nite I saw Jonesy perform a miracle. The pews were simple, made of
1 1/2" slats with 1" spaces to accomidate for the body's curves so you could look right through the pews of to the floor.

This nite Jonesy was right in among the teens laying on hands, speaking in tounges and "slaying them in the spirit". I and others were standing around in a loose circle. I'll never forget seeing this fully physically grown 13 year old girl first begin to convulse, then fall to the floor all the while convulsing, continueing to convulse on the floor ..... then begin SLITHERING beneath the pews.

Many times during the several weeks Jonesy had been in that church, I'd seen some sort of convulsive fit when folks were "slain"; but this one was SLITHERING!

I am talking about curving snake like motions that were physically impossible for a human to make, and if they could, they would not produce FORWARD MOVEMENT beneath the pews! I of course did a double take, a triple take and looked around to see if anyone else saw what I was seeing.
I just could not believe what I was seeing.
It was a TRUE miracle.

We pretty much left the church after that.

A few years later I was on my own and I again saw Jonesy in another church. He was the SUNDAY SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT! I told my little wife, "I don't know if we'll continue to come here.

A week later they had a revival and in mid service the evangelist stopped the service to pray against "hindering spirits". I kept my eyes open and watched as Jonesy left the other "honored" on the platform and knelt down in a corner made by a floor cabinet and the wall. Jonesy started sweating like crazy and shivering like a wet dog while the church prayed. He sat down in the congregation at the end of the prayer time, and after about 10 minutes Jonesy got up and left. Brother Jones never came back.
On Sunday morning, 2 weeks later, his LETTER was read:
".....God has called me to another work, therefore I must resign as Sunday School Superintendent."

Ignore the shills trying to usurp this thread.
I'd like to hear more on this subject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 798332


Great story.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!

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New JerUSAlem Russ
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Russ, what are your fruits? A e-store selling marked up coffee mugs, aprons, t-shirts, etc? A confusing calendar used for money changing?
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You obviously have not looked at the site lately. I went not profit to put your money changer complaints to rest.


Monday Nov 9/23
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
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You need to keep going down that rabbit hole.

Yahushua, the real name of the Messiah, not the fake name which means Hail Zeus, we are given by western churchianity. did not come to start a new religion.

They do not call the Anti-Messiah the Torahless one for nothing!
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Exactly!
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Hey Russ,

I rebuke you in the name of Jesus!
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Because I like yanking on the kitty's tail.


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So sad for you. Sounds like all that studying up to be a Messianic Jew has given you zero discernment.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!

ThreshingSword@live.com
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Russ, what are your fruits? A e-store selling marked up coffee mugs, aprons, t-shirts, etc? A confusing calendar used for money changing?


You obviously have not looked at the site lately. I went not profit to put your money changer complaints to rest.


Monday Nov 9/23
 Quoting: New JerUSAlem Russ

Good, that's a step in the right direction, but $7 is still profit. Jesus would not charge at all. By the way, non-profits are some of the wealthiest businesses around. Don't be fooled by non-profits.
New JerUSAlem Russ
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Good, that's a step in the right direction, but $7 is still profit. Jesus would not charge at all. By the way, non-profits are some of the wealthiest businesses around. Don't be fooled by non-profits.
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I have them printed up and that is the cost to print them. I make no money on it.


Mon Nov 9/23
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
New JerUSAlem Russ
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Jesus would not charge at all.
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I know. That is why the contents are free on the homepage. Freely given to me. Freely given back.


Mon Nov 9/23
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
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Because I like yanking on the kitty's tail.




So sad for you. Sounds like all that studying up to be a Messianic Jew has given you zero discernment.
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chuckle

Anymore I chuckle when this 'discernment' thing gets bandied about...“YOU don't have discernment/no, YOU don't have discernment”

Time will tell who has any and who does not.

I'm not worried.
Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos
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Because I like yanking on the kitty's tail.




So sad for you. Sounds like all that studying up to be a Messianic Jew has given you zero discernment.


chuckle

Anymore I chuckle when this 'discernment' thing gets bandied about...“YOU don't have discernment/no, YOU don't have discernment”

Time will tell who has any and who does not.

I'm not worried.
 Quoting: czygyny




proof is in the fruit, which in your case is rotting. TS is correct in your total lack of spiritual discernment, the fact that you come on to a thread like this with an antagonistic attitude should speak volumes as to what motivates you from the heart. You like to defend the darkness, and that is the fruit of your actions which everybody can tell but you.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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where did OP go?

more!
New JerUSAlem Russ
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So are you all saying that the company that charges me $7.00 is a satanic infiltrator company? Should they print them up for free? Or are they just providing me a helpful service?


Monday Nov 9/23
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
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One star for even thinking such crap! Get out of the Middle Ages.
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The devil has always gone around like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. It's done by lying words and wonders...propaganda and "signs", calling good evil and evil good. Without a solid foundation on the Word of God, our young live in a state of confusion.

Paul said that perilous times would come in the latter days, and we are living in those days. We are being warned by men and women to become more knowledgable and spiritually grounded, recognizing that the shepherds of the church are wolves in sheep's clothing.

Thanks, Wingedlion, for starting this thread, and to the more knowledgable among us for posting.

I left organized religion 20 years ago because I saw what Wingedlion is writing about.

Benny Hinn was my first real hint of the lie that captured the hearts of the believing ignorant. Note how so often he says "Jeeeezussssssssssss", snake that he is, plus uses the "hook 'em horns" sign. Healing from this man? NO! Not from him and many others, either. $$$$$$$$$$$ How many trucks rolling into your city, loaded with food for the poor, have you seen from the Pat Robert's ministry?

Paula Zahn (sp) did a documentary on NBC some years back exposing the life styles of these gurus. That's where the money goes...NOT to the poor and needy of this world. No wonder then that Christ told us that there would always be the poor among us. Don't get me started!
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This thread is a pile of BULLSHIT!
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That info was very interesting and good to know.

hf



Those symbols are not just for the Church goers, look for them in advertisement, and on movies, usually the "enlightened one" will wear the ring or the red. When you look for them, it will surprise you how much there are of them.
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Not only in church Wingedlion...! Everywhere ....!

For those that have the Heart Petals connected to the Spirits of LOVE will be ABLE TO SEE...!

It's when the aura reacts to the presence of evil.

Yolgnu.
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Hey Russ,

I rebuke you in the name of Jesus!
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I rebuke all you delusional hard-core bible thumpers in the name of sanity!!

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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hey WL good topic!

please ignore all the deluded horseshit here and continue on!



Thank you, doing this for a while I have tough skin to begin with. I apreciate those who actually benefit from posts like this, the enemy can't take that away from anyone.
 Quoting: Wingedlion

I have a question for you.
I was in a church once, a town in the Midwest, that had a small town atmosphere. This town is were my husband grew up, and the church were his mother has gone to for eons.
Well, I am a long time student of the Bible, and have studied Bible Prophecy for about 30 years.
I speak to my mother in law about Bible prophecy and she strongly discounts it as valid, and says the pastor of her church really discourages it. So, she will never be interested in it or give it a dime of importance.

Is this a sign that this church could possibly be infiltrated? It seems people are being lead astray from knowing the truth.
What do you think?
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I rebuke all you delusional hard-core bible thumpers in the name of sanity!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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Yeah, BILLION$ for pornogragphy, but not one can of beans for the food bank. Why don't you rebuke that instead?
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I rebuke all you delusional hard-core bible thumpers in the name of sanity!!


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+1
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Because I like yanking on the kitty's tail.




So sad for you. Sounds like all that studying up to be a Messianic Jew has given you zero discernment.


chuckle

Anymore I chuckle when this 'discernment' thing gets bandied about...“YOU don't have discernment/no, YOU don't have discernment”

Time will tell who has any and who does not.

I'm not worried.
 Quoting: czygyny


The only Satanist I can see on this thread is WingedLion, turning on the christians on this forum is proof of his paranoid delusions!!

What a con job!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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hey WL good topic!

please ignore all the deluded horseshit here and continue on!



Thank you, doing this for a while I have tough skin to begin with. I apreciate those who actually benefit from posts like this, the enemy can't take that away from anyone.

I have a question for you.
I was in a church once, a town in the Midwest, that had a small town atmosphere. This town is were my husband grew up, and the church were his mother has gone to for eons.
Well, I am a long time student of the Bible, and have studied Bible Prophecy for about 30 years.
I speak to my mother in law about Bible prophecy and she strongly discounts it as valid, and says the pastor of her church really discourages it. So, she will never be interested in it or give it a dime of importance.

Is this a sign that this church could possibly be infiltrated? It seems people are being lead astray from knowing the truth.
What do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 837167




After the situation with the young girl running out of my home church, my eyes were opened and I began to see things very clearly. It produced a type of cultural shock, where the Christian life that I thought was normal and was what the Lord wanted; then began to turn into a staging area where real spiritual warfare was being fought and real players were setting the stage for hurting the Body of Christ, where infiltrators sucked dry any aspect of the working of the Holy Spirit and then replaced that work with a counterfeit substitute.

In essence, Yes, I feel that your home church is effected. Any Church that presents a threat to Satan's kingdom have been targeted and infiltrated. And they have had 2000 years to hone their craft to that of a "well oiled machine".
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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I rebuke all you delusional hard-core bible thumpers in the name of sanity!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Yeah, BILLION$ for pornogragphy, but not one can of beans for the food bank. Why don't you rebuke that instead?
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You're right, I rebuke porn in the name of it's too damn cold to be naked!!

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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Because I like yanking on the kitty's tail.




So sad for you. Sounds like all that studying up to be a Messianic Jew has given you zero discernment.


chuckle

Anymore I chuckle when this 'discernment' thing gets bandied about...“YOU don't have discernment/no, YOU don't have discernment”

Time will tell who has any and who does not.

I'm not worried.


The only Satanist I can see on this thread is WingedLion, turning on the christians on this forum is proof of his paranoid delusions!!

What a con job!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth




Yes, but you believe that god was a space alien that needed humans to mine gold for him, so your opinion has no value whatsoever to the subject at hand. You can't even discern between "religion" and Life in Christ; what makes anyone believe that you can discern the truth about anything?
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."

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