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How to identify a Satanic infiltrator in a Church

 
Jerichofall

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Wow, thanks for sharing, this stuff just is amazing. I'll watch this video shortly, thanks so much. Things are all falling together, understanding the antideluvian age, what atlantis really was and all of this knowledge being unleashed. Truly people are running to and fro' and knowledge is being increased. If the Lord says 'my people perish for lack of knowledge', what then when all of this knowledge is unleashed??

Great, very exciting.
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
Wingedlion  (OP)

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I heard Hephzibah talk about the bases on the Moon and on Mars a lot. I also heard her talk about the ancient knowledge that was lost during the flood, and how that they had tried to gather as much of it as possible. They were technologically superior to us, even to where we are today. Surely history repeats itself. This explains how they were able to build such elaborate temples. They had anti-gravity tech, and were probably working on time travel. The blanket that the pilot was wearing had integrated circuitry embeded in her skin. Basically using her body as a computer and a power source. About a dozen sci-fi movies come to mind with all kinds of information that reveals the secrets the illuminati have been hiding for centuries.

It's really pretty simple...the Pagan gods are the fallen angels. I thought it was interesting how the astronauts believed that they would not make it out of there, because the fallen angels had been so intimidating, yet, they were not allowed to harm them. Yes, even the devils believe and tremble.

What I found very interesting (having been trained in linguistics) were the notes they left behind, and the original language they had. It looked like a combination of several different languages, kind of like when the Lord scattered their language, He broke it into seperate parts, and each group had their own seperate part. The language looked as if it were an amalgomation of sanscrit, Cantonese, and cursive English all rolled up into one. And the fact that they believed it was spoken like a song? That intrigued me as well.

They built a city out of alabaster crystal and steel!!! Incredible. This is how tech savy the Nephilim were before the flood. But they were drenched in innocent blood. So much that it grieved the Lord that He had made mankind. Just as they are today. I think they knew that judgment was coming, hence the notes they wrote before their end. I also believe the righteous angels hacked to death many of them, as well as bringing the meteor shower that killed them all. reminded me of Sodom and Gomorrah, where the angels rained fire and brimstone upon the inhabitants.

IMHO, this is very credible information. Thanks to whoever posted it up here. I was having such computer trouble I knew that I would be unable to do it. The enemy is very worried, and they are very aggitated too. There is a lot of propaganda on TV lately as well. Probably best if you do not believe anything you see on television.
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Hi WL,

I had to pause in the middle of the video to ask you ...

How does this theory reconcile to Creation and the timeline we know of? These theories claim that there were inhabitants here and on the planets/moon before mankind... when the Word says that the Earth/solar system was Created concurrently in a very short time. Man was here from the very beginning.I realize that the other 'heavens/realms' were preexisting...but not this present 'physical' universe.

I am struggling with this because this is the basic idea on the Birdie thread as well, and I am concerned that this may be a spiritual battle in the making.

Also, you had mentioned that 'they' remove from you things on this site. The OP on birdie claims the same....

Who are "they" and is this a dangerous and if so why??

You are the most trusted poster on this site....please explainhf


Hello FHL, my Brotherhi
daughter in NYC
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I watched the video and do believe most of what we call aliens are evil interdimensional beings,I do beg to differ about the impossibility of long distance space travel as the Egyptian Gods have definate links to Sirius and the order of Melchezidek Orion.

The information now confirms to me what 'as in the days of Noah' means,it does not mean judgement for sin and depravity but the maintenance of genetic purity.I have digested today material on transhumanism which is the cross pollination of human DNA with other species,this was the abomination with the Nephilim and fallen angels that caused the flood.

I also read today about the 'soulless' ones these will be the vessels for the demonic army.

I have said elsewhere that I have had a vision not to change my DNA or accept any upgrades,even tattoos can be a portal for evil.

Humans are currently operating at about 5 per cent when the Creator picks us up we will be as the armies of old,men for whom the ground shakes when we walk.

This could be about the preservation of the species.
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Hi WL,

I had to pause in the middle of the video to ask you ...

How does this theory reconcile to Creation and the timeline we know of? These theories claim that there were inhabitants here and on the planets/moon before mankind... when the Word says that the Earth/solar system was Created concurrently in a very short time. Man was here from the very beginning.I realize that the other 'heavens/realms' were preexisting...but not this present 'physical' universe.

I am struggling with this because this is the basic idea on the Birdie thread as well, and I am concerned that this may be a spiritual battle in the making.

Also, you had mentioned that 'they' remove from you things on this site. The OP on birdie claims the same....

Who are "they" and is this a dangerous and if so why??

You are the most trusted poster on this site....please explainhf


Hello FHL, my Brotherhi
 Quoting: daughter in NYC



I doubt seriously I will have a chance to post this because they are locking up my computer again. "They" of course are the generational Satanist and super soldiers of the elite's private army that have high technology to break into our home computers through the phone lines of our house. "They" also bought up four square blocks of property around our home and placed all "their"agents in them. They appear to be normal "neighbors" but they are all generational Satanist with access to technology that would make "Star trek" look calm.

What is difficult for you to get your head around (as is all of us) is that the pre-flood people were technologically far superior to us than what we are today. And as you read the Apocraphal books like the book of Enoch you find out why.

When God created man, He put in charge of teaching man, the Watchers, a contengency of Angels with skills in high technology. He also placed Lucifer as Head of this creation project, and of the Watchers to help man, early man, how things worked.(God could only trust His "right hand person, Lucifer, in charge of something as important as this project) But Lucifer became jealous of man, and sought to corrupt man, so that he could take control over this project of creation. And at the same time, it seems that the Watchers were lusting after the human women, and wanted them. They found out that women were easily led astray by a strong male figure, and so the great serpent beguiled Eve.

And the first thing Lucifer beguiled Eve with is the promise that they too could be as gods. How do you suppose the Lucifer could possibly keep a promise as this? Well we know now that it was through high technology and the practice of sorcery which the Watchers also taught early mankind, and so man began to be corrupted, but this corruption really ran amok when the Watchers began breeding with the human women and begat "Giants" men of remown, these were like those of Old. What that means is your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps there was a pre-flood race, but whatever happened when the Nephilim began to take over the Earth is violence began to fill the Earth.


I think it is interesting to say that these Astronauts said that anywhere they found this technology, it also appeared that a violent event took place there. But look at us today. The Nazis through the Thule society began to establish contact with the Fallen angels and an exchange of information took place. During this course of information, they discovered that a race of people in Hallow earth had this ancient technology, and Hitler wanted that tech to win the war. since 1947 our technology has increased a hundred fold, and most of it came from the fallen ones. That is 65 years worth of learning. I figure that between the first man and the flood mankind would have had 800-900 years worth of technological exchange between mankind and the fallen ones before the flood, Plenty of time to establish a "space fleet" but what these early astronauts were using wasn't as much anti-grav tech but portal tech...kinda like the Stargate sci-fi program.

Now, concerning the "they", this is the private army of the Elite, the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, Hephzibah, these people are the consultants the CIA uses to teach their agents how to kill and how to make their kill look like an accident, they teach the Mafia, and other Illuminati side organizations, and yes, they are dangerous, but it is who I am in warfare with. I battle the super spychic soldiers of the Illuminati each and every day and have for nearly 15 years...there are a lot of them.
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Wingedlion  (OP)

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It took me nearly 30 minutes of solid praying to get my last post to take hold. They are hacking into my computer and "gumming" up the works to discourage me from making a post. I can't even go into the post to make spelling corrections so you will just have to forgive me, I was in a hurry to see if I could get it to post.

Again, this is the same kind of think I have had to deal with all the time. "They" destroyed three computers of ours so far, they are trying to destroy this one too.I may not be able to make a reply to any further posts, I hope I can, but I have found that prayer works in causing confusion in the enemy's camp and can get some things through. Keep us in prayer, we are on the front lines of this battle and it is going to get more heated as the harvest of the tares/Fall of MBTG gets closer to being fulfilled. "They" are going to be the purveyors of their own destruction.
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Hey Op, can you share with us some basics on spiritual warfare?
How to put on the whole armor of God
How to use the sword of the spirit
How to tear down strongholds
How to bind the enemy
How to use the shield of faith
What it means to overcome the accuser by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony
Thank you
daughter in NYC

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It took me nearly 30 minutes of solid praying to get my last post to take hold. They are hacking into my computer and "gumming" up the works to discourage me from making a post. I can't even go into the post to make spelling corrections so you will just have to forgive me, I was in a hurry to see if I could get it to post.

Again, this is the same kind of think I have had to deal with all the time. "They" destroyed three computers of ours so far, they are trying to destroy this one too.I may not be able to make a reply to any further posts, I hope I can, but I have found that prayer works in causing confusion in the enemy's camp and can get some things through. Keep us in prayer, we are on the front lines of this battle and it is going to get more heated as the harvest of the tares/Fall of MBTG gets closer to being fulfilled. "They" are going to be the purveyors of their own destruction.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


Thanks WL,

Are you aware of the rainbow colors on each letter as a form of 'tracking'? When you scan very slowly over the text on the web...if you are tracked they will show colors on the letters. I know because I have now seen them on every computer I post from.


I agree that with what you have said....my point is the deception that all of these entities have been here "far longer than we have". I think that their tech. is far advanced and has allowed them to travel, as Khnum has said. But I still believe in the Creation account. I know that you have been tortured and monitored by TPTB,(makes me sick...aaggghhh!) but what do you think of the birdie OP claiming that there are things he 'cannot' say and has been 'told' when he has said too much?? I have not received a straight answer and he claims to be a Christian and is here to 'help'?!

I have never heard you say that you have been 'told' what to and not to say....

What are your thoughts?

You are always in my prayershf
daughter in NYC
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Why, this is amusing.

You're being taught the very same "arts" supposedly belonged to the enemy.

Again, you're making yourselves indiscernible from your foe. Selfsame entanglement.

Worst part is, you're actually asking after these precepts. Certainty in these matters is the abnegation of faith. But I suppose there is little enough harm in dispelling some worry.

You might stand to realize that magic is the empowerment of the powerless. That is to say, it has everything in common with your faith. If you continue think yourselves powerless... Well, you wouldn't need such empowering if a little restraint could be exercised. Mental sobriety is armor enough against sensationalism. I'd suggest wearing this in place of any greater symbolic excess.
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BTW,

I finished watching the video tonight. Some amazing footage....the 'Mona Lisa' woman has been discussed on the birdie....so I posted this one for more of a reference.

We will see if anyone comments....

WL, when do you think this battle happened on the Moon? Is there Scripture to confirm, do you know of?
daughter in NYC
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All true Christians will join the New Jerusalem Church. It replaces all the other infected ones. All members will believe in the same foundation and any infiltrator will be easily identified if they try to break our unity.


Monday Nov 9/23
 Quoting: New JerUSAlem Russ


I looked up "New Jerusalem Church" and took a look at a website and I have a question to ask.

Why does the Australian website for this New Jerusalem Church blatantly display illuminati symbols?

Here is the website: [link to www.newchurch.org.au]

First thing I noticed was in the header, the sun around a book with rays of light beaming from the top left corner. The sun is a well known illuminati symbol.

The second thing I see is a lovely picture of a lighthouse near the bottom of a rainbow. The rainbow is an illuminati symbol and the lighthouse represents illumination.

Not the kinds of symbols I would expect to see on a Christian website about a Christian church. I would expect to see this kind of thing on a New-Age website.

I am having a quick look around the website now, as I type this and can see that this church will explain to me "The Bible's Deeper Meaning" -that is a little worrying. Now I do believe that you need to think deeply while reading the bible, we should be able to do that ourselves and shouldn't need to have someone tell us what it's deeper meaning is. God gave us the ability to do that ourselves.

As for Satanists infiltrating the church, yes I believe it. I wouldn't say every church, but many of them. I am always suspicious of the big churches with lots of money because I would assume that satanists would go for more influential positions. The more modest and humble churches seem to be more honest. I would still be careful though.
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hahahaahha

GOOD ONE

ahahahahahah


"""How to identify a Satanic infiltrator in a Church"""

!

answer------ > BY THE CROSS <<< ----

ahahha you sleepy fluffy sheep

ITS THA WHOLE CHURCH THAT INFILTRATED OUR LVIES
These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)
-> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <-
is the only way youths listen to
the Prophets !!!


PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT???

[link to www.youtube.com]

rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH

LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D

peace2daUNIVERSE
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Here's an interesting event,

I think I was 21 some new friends invited me to a large extremely popular christian church on New Years eve.
I was new to the city and didn't know many people so decided to go. I got a lift with them, as it was along way from where we lived.

It was massive there was more than ten thousand people there, more like a concert then churches I remembered as a kid, Christian rock bands and many different pastors talking.

The main attraction for the night was a well know evangelical preacher from America, not known to me but everyone said he was famous. He was a good speaker and very charismatic, spoke about his life, how he became a Christian all the usual stuff.

At the end of all the services he was talking to people in the center of the massive hall with the crowd of thousands still around.
I was approximately 100 meters away with a press of people in between. Without thought I just walked over to him and a path seemed to be cleared just for me. I approached him from the side and for some reason as I came near to him I placed my hand on his shoulder, I have no idea why maybe to get his attention I do not know but It was like I hit him with thunderbolt.
He sorted of like jumped in the air out of fear. He turned around to look at me and had the most intense look of fear
on his face, we made eye contact, nothing was said I just turned around and walked out, then proceeded to walk home.

It took me about 6-7 hours to walk home along the busy highway and the sun was coming up when I finally arrived.

I remember, the preacher making a big deal about spiritual warfare etc when he was talking and to this day what haunts me is was he on the wrong side or was it me.
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All very interesting, in the Marvel Comics movie Thor (pagan diety/ fallen angel) he says they live in a place where technology and magic are almost indivisible. I'm sure that's probably close to the truth!

Just one quick question WL, and I haven't had time to watch any of the video yet I've been travelling again for work. Could a true believer be tricked in to seeing the 'Disneyland' heaven that they say they've seen, or is it even possible they have ascended higher than the corrupted realms? I do remember you saying, the higher you ascend, the more symbolic and abstract things become is that right? If it was some sort of trick, what agenda would that serve?

It certainly doesn't feel right to me that heaven is a theme park, that would get boring pretty quickly. I believe God has purpose for us well beyond R&R, indeed vocations within the majesty of His creation. I can see more and more how differently I am 'wired' from some other people, and the role I could play being different to others, being no better or worse, just different, and that's really cool.

I've met with some people to discuss helping me be baptised, but what I find a bit frustrating is that they want me to join their church/ denomination to do it. I could care less about 'denominations'! What 'denomination' was Jesus? When I asked them this question they replied earnestly, 'a jewish'. lol, I think missing the point. But these seem to be good, Jesus loving Christians so I'm excited about that and at this point I'm definitely being told to get it done. Any thoughts you guys?

Prayers as always, I understand WL as you know what a severely persecuted person goes through pretty well, albeit second handedly.
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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All very interesting, in the Marvel Comics movie Thor (pagan diety/ fallen angel) he says they live in a place where technology and magic are almost indivisible. I'm sure that's probably close to the truth!

Just one quick question WL, and I haven't had time to watch any of the video yet I've been travelling again for work. Could a true believer be tricked in to seeing the 'Disneyland' heaven that they say they've seen, or is it even possible they have ascended higher than the corrupted realms? I do remember you saying, the higher you ascend, the more symbolic and abstract things become is that right? If it was some sort of trick, what agenda would that serve?

It certainly doesn't feel right to me that heaven is a theme park, that would get boring pretty quickly. I believe God has purpose for us well beyond R&R, indeed vocations within the majesty of His creation. I can see more and more how differently I am 'wired' from some other people, and the role I could play being different to others, being no better or worse, just different, and that's really cool.

I've met with some people to discuss helping me be baptised, but what I find a bit frustrating is that they want me to join their church/ denomination to do it. I could care less about 'denominations'! What 'denomination' was Jesus? When I asked them this question they replied earnestly, 'a jewish'. lol, I think missing the point. But these seem to be good, Jesus loving Christians so I'm excited about that and at this point I'm definitely being told to get it done. Any thoughts you guys?

Prayers as always, I understand WL as you know what a severely persecuted person goes through pretty well, albeit second handedly.
 Quoting: Jerichofall

1 Corinthians 1:12-14
12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
Revelation 18:3-5
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Paul chastised those that followed man-made ideals. Jesus told John in The Book of Revelation to come out of the churches. What church fits this and has been accepted world wide?...You already know. Jesus said, to HIS disciples, that the world would hate them because it hated Him first. If you are accepted by the world you have became a part of it.
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hahahaahha

GOOD ONE

ahahahahahah


"""How to identify a Satanic infiltrator in a Church"""

!

answer------ > BY THE CROSS <<< ----

ahahha you sleepy fluffy sheep

ITS THA WHOLE CHURCH THAT INFILTRATED OUR LVIES
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


I think this is more than enough

sums all the ''holy books'' Qur'an, Bible.. whatever.. Torah lol

........
These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)
-> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <-
is the only way youths listen to
the Prophets !!!


PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT???

[link to www.youtube.com]

rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH

LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D

peace2daUNIVERSE
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ITS THA WHOLE CHURCH THAT INFILTRATED OUR LVIES


I think this is more than enough

sums all the ''holy books'' Qur'an, Bible.. whatever.. Torah lol

........


You are right. We have heard enough from you. You have made your choice.
Jude 9 "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."
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There are some excellent posts that I want to respond to but I am unable because of the problems I am having with hacking into my computer. My Mother gets on it and it works great, but as soon as I get on it...Problems!!!!


I have tried to respond on several occasions but they are all being grabbed before they can post. I have to work quick with prayer and with speed to get this to post. so forgive the spelling problems.

As soon as I got up from my usual exercises, when I go to the computer, several trains began to whistle to warn the people in our neighborhood with panicked whistles. They are very much afraid of what is going on here. Sorry but will try when their strength is diminished...pray to that end so that I can continue to participate. Blessings.
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hahahaahha

GOOD ONE

ahahahahahah


"""How to identify a Satanic infiltrator in a Church"""

!

answer------ > BY THE CROSS <<< ----

ahahha you sleepy fluffy sheep

ITS THA WHOLE CHURCH THAT INFILTRATED OUR LVIES
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


I think this is more than enough

sums all the ''holy books'' Qur'an, Bible.. whatever.. Torah lol

........
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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the cross is a OBJECT FOR TORTURE - roman

SO WHY ALL OVER THE GLOBE YOU WORSHIP A TORTURE ITEM aaa ??? you '''good christian-trds''''
These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)
-> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <-
is the only way youths listen to
the Prophets !!!


PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT???

[link to www.youtube.com]

rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH

LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D

peace2daUNIVERSE
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Prayers sent WL!

Interesting watching everything fall piece by piece together. This matter of law which the Lord put on me, I've only had one person so far find it to be an huge deal, but that might not even be the point. God is showing me that I need to know and understand His law, and I need to familiarise myself with it more. Other than everyone needing to know the law, who really needs to know the law the most?
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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All very interesting, in the Marvel Comics movie Thor (pagan diety/ fallen angel) he says they live in a place where technology and magic are almost indivisible. I'm sure that's probably close to the truth!

Just one quick question WL, and I haven't had time to watch any of the video yet I've been travelling again for work. Could a true believer be tricked in to seeing the 'Disneyland' heaven that they say they've seen, or is it even possible they have ascended higher than the corrupted realms? I do remember you saying, the higher you ascend, the more symbolic and abstract things become is that right? If it was some sort of trick, what agenda would that serve?

It certainly doesn't feel right to me that heaven is a theme park, that would get boring pretty quickly. I believe God has purpose for us well beyond R&R, indeed vocations within the majesty of His creation. I can see more and more how differently I am 'wired' from some other people, and the role I could play being different to others, being no better or worse, just different, and that's really cool.

I've met with some people to discuss helping me be baptised, but what I find a bit frustrating is that they want me to join their church/ denomination to do it. I could care less about 'denominations'! What 'denomination' was Jesus? When I asked them this question they replied earnestly, 'a jewish'. lol, I think missing the point. But these seem to be good, Jesus loving Christians so I'm excited about that and at this point I'm definitely being told to get it done. Any thoughts you guys?

Prayers as always, I understand WL as you know what a severely persecuted person goes through pretty well, albeit second handedly.
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I will attempt to answer this post, and see how far I can get...the truth is that we have no reference to kn0ow or to understand what is going on in "heaven" or the higher realms, therefore the images are symbolic. But those symbols contain a great deal of information that is hinting to what things are going to be.

From the times that I have been taken up there, it is a lot like this earth. I feel that the earth is designed to reflect heaven. The diversity of creatures in it, the beauty of it's majesty, the awestruck prescence of God in it's pristine landscapes. Everything I have seen in heaven is somewhat like earth only brighter, and with more life to everything. Mt. Zion, the heavenly city is a crystal city made with precious stones. Crowns are crowns of glory, a living fire of God around the head of believers. Each crown has a different color. But the most prestigious of all of the crowns (halo) is the purple crown of the martyrs. When two believers are fellowshipping, and a martyr walks past them, they both bow their heads in reverence to the sacrifice that the believer made in life...to die for the Lord. The martyrs crown is like an eternal "back stage pass" to the throne of God, the most holy of all places to be. Of such magnificance you never want to leave, you only want to stay there and behold the beauty of the place.

Heaven is not like an amusement park it is so much more. It is way too glorious for our own imagination to comprehend. That is why so little is written about it...streets of gold, crystal walls, that is about as much as we can comprehend. It is more beautiful and glorious than what we can imagine...like the Apostle said; " Joy unspeakable, and full of glory."
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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the cross is a OBJECT FOR TORTURE - roman

SO WHY ALL OVER THE GLOBE YOU WORSHIP A TORTURE ITEM aaa ??? you '''good christian-trds''''
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I worship the Lord Jesus Christ. I don't worship a cross as you've described, perhaps you are making very general assumptions about 'christian-trds'? I can see you are full of how clever you think you are, where as my good friend would be right to call you a spiritual retard, because by its definition your spiritual understanding of things is badly retarded. I'm sure there's plenty of other threads in dire need of your great mind.. run along cupcake.
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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In the name of the most Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, Amen!

First, Satan is a real creature. And remember that he is CREATURE. Not a demi-god, and definitely not, in no way, equal than God. He is CREATURE.

Second, 99% of the things we associate with Satan: the witchy stuff, the black capes, the red symbols, the wierdo rituals are MADE UP BY MEN. They are usually trying to do the opposite of what Scriptures say and do, especially traditional church rituals which are based o Scripture.

They are superstitious mumbo jumbo creating a mythology based, mostly on myth upon myth, story upon story. It started during the Spanish Inquisition, with the question: "How can we identify witches?" Most of our other ideas about Satan are from novels and movies. They all give Satan mythological powers.

Frankly, I truely beleive that Satan does not come to us as a scary red horned beast, but in a three-piece business suit. He lies even to the "Satanists."

Third, Satan has no more power than you or I. He is evil. He is the prime cause of sin with Adam and Eve's temptation into sin. But as the Scriptures teach, "one little word can fell him." That name is Jesus. He is beaten. More concern for me is my own sinfulness and need for confession. I am as evil as satan, my flesh is born of sin. Satan as a fallen angel is confirmed in his everlasting damnation, my confirmation comes upon my death, which i will pay the price of sin. Yet I have hope in Jesus Christ who atoned for my sin and saved me from the evil of this world. What can this world or Satan do to me, when I have resurrection to eternal life bought for me by the atonement of Jesus Christ upon the Cross?

Fourth, now whether there are satanists in a church, I beleive this is more fear than faith. There may be deranged people who think they get power from Satan. But if I focused on power, sex and money all the time, it would be the same thing. Satanist are selfish to the extreeme. And if a church is so liberal that Christ is no longer confessed nor beleived like in many of our liberal churches in this country, I can see where they may come to worship other things than The Holy Trinity.

But if that Church believes in Christ as Lord and God, there is nothing to fear from Satan.

The peace of Christ be with you all.
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In the name of the most Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, Amen!

First, Satan is a real creature. And remember that he is CREATURE. Not a demi-god, and definitely not, in no way, equal than God. He is CREATURE.

Second, 99% of the things we associate with Satan: the witchy stuff, the black capes, the red symbols, the wierdo rituals are MADE UP BY MEN. They are usually trying to do the opposite of what Scriptures say and do, especially traditional church rituals which are based o Scripture.

They are superstitious mumbo jumbo creating a mythology based, mostly on myth upon myth, story upon story. It started during the Spanish Inquisition, with the question: "How can we identify witches?" Most of our other ideas about Satan are from novels and movies. They all give Satan mythological powers.

Frankly, I truely beleive that Satan does not come to us as a scary red horned beast, but in a three-piece business suit. He lies even to the "Satanists."

Third, Satan has no more power than you or I. He is evil. He is the prime cause of sin with Adam and Eve's temptation into sin. But as the Scriptures teach, "one little word can fell him." That name is Jesus. He is beaten. More concern for me is my own sinfulness and need for confession. I am as evil as satan, my flesh is born of sin. Satan as a fallen angel is confirmed in his everlasting damnation, my confirmation comes upon my death, which i will pay the price of sin. Yet I have hope in Jesus Christ who atoned for my sin and saved me from the evil of this world. What can this world or Satan do to me, when I have resurrection to eternal life bought for me by the atonement of Jesus Christ upon the Cross?

Fourth, now whether there are satanists in a church, I beleive this is more fear than faith. There may be deranged people who think they get power from Satan. But if I focused on power, sex and money all the time, it would be the same thing. Satanist are selfish to the extreeme. And if a church is so liberal that Christ is no longer confessed nor beleived like in many of our liberal churches in this country, I can see where they may come to worship other things than The Holy Trinity.

But if that Church believes in Christ as Lord and God, there is nothing to fear from Satan.

The peace of Christ be with you all.
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"Greater is He that is in me than he that is in this world"Peace be with you too friendhf
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All very interesting, in the Marvel Comics movie Thor (pagan diety/ fallen angel) he says they live in a place where technology and magic are almost indivisible. I'm sure that's probably close to the truth!

Just one quick question WL, and I haven't had time to watch any of the video yet I've been travelling again for work. Could a true believer be tricked in to seeing the 'Disneyland' heaven that they say they've seen, or is it even possible they have ascended higher than the corrupted realms? I do remember you saying, the higher you ascend, the more symbolic and abstract things become is that right? If it was some sort of trick, what agenda would that serve?

It certainly doesn't feel right to me that heaven is a theme park, that would get boring pretty quickly. I believe God has purpose for us well beyond R&R, indeed vocations within the majesty of His creation. I can see more and more how differently I am 'wired' from some other people, and the role I could play being different to others, being no better or worse, just different, and that's really cool.

I've met with some people to discuss helping me be baptised, but what I find a bit frustrating is that they want me to join their church/ denomination to do it. I could care less about 'denominations'! What 'denomination' was Jesus? When I asked them this question they replied earnestly, 'a jewish'. lol, I think missing the point. But these seem to be good, Jesus loving Christians so I'm excited about that and at this point I'm definitely being told to get it done. Any thoughts you guys?

Prayers as always, I understand WL as you know what a severely persecuted person goes through pretty well, albeit second handedly.
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Hi JF,

This video is a 'must see'....

I have prayed for your Baptism to be resolved as I am happy that you have found an answer.

Do all for the Glory of God and He will guide you. It would be wise to also pray for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit(fire) as well!

God Blesshf
daughter in NYC
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We are now officially as in the days of Noah with an admission from the UK of human chimeras being developed,transhumanism is now official,we are now officially mixing human DNA with other species what was underground is now admitted to.The powers that be are pushing this agenda very hard at the moment Lady Gaga,Nellie Furtado,Rihanna etc video clips are all pushing human interbred looking creatures that are demonic and often half man half machine.

Hollywood with its X-Men,superhero,etc movies is also pushing this agenda.

The sell will of course be live longer be faster stronger etc etc.Dont fall for it or accept it.

I once had an angel step into me to help me defend myself God will do no such favour for a mutant as Ive said before when God picks up a human you are incomparably better than any tweaked freak we are the original and the best please choose to stay that way.
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We are now officially as in the days of Noah with an admission from the UK of human chimeras being developed,transhumanism is now official,we are now officially mixing human DNA with other species what was underground is now admitted to.The powers that be are pushing this agenda very hard at the moment Lady Gaga,Nellie Furtado,Rihanna etc video clips are all pushing human interbred looking creatures that are demonic and often half man half machine.

Hollywood with its X-Men,superhero,etc movies is also pushing this agenda.

The sell will of course be live longer be faster stronger etc etc.Dont fall for it or accept it.

I once had an angel step into me to help me defend myself God will do no such favour for a mutant as Ive said before when God picks up a human you are incomparably better than any tweaked freak we are the original and the best please choose to stay that way.
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Yes. I'm sure that the "mark" will be all inclusive to entice the weak and unsuspecting souls.

NO MARK NO WAY!!

What profits a man if he gains the whole "world" and loses His soul?"
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In the name of the most Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, Amen!

First, Satan is a real creature. And remember that he is CREATURE. Not a demi-god, and definitely not, in no way, equal than God. He is CREATURE.

Second, 99% of the things we associate with Satan: the witchy stuff, the black capes, the red symbols, the wierdo rituals are MADE UP BY MEN. They are usually trying to do the opposite of what Scriptures say and do, especially traditional church rituals which are based o Scripture.

They are superstitious mumbo jumbo creating a mythology based, mostly on myth upon myth, story upon story. It started during the Spanish Inquisition, with the question: "How can we identify witches?" Most of our other ideas about Satan are from novels and movies. They all give Satan mythological powers.

Frankly, I truely beleive that Satan does not come to us as a scary red horned beast, but in a three-piece business suit. He lies even to the "Satanists."

Third, Satan has no more power than you or I. He is evil. He is the prime cause of sin with Adam and Eve's temptation into sin. But as the Scriptures teach, "one little word can fell him." That name is Jesus. He is beaten. More concern for me is my own sinfulness and need for confession. I am as evil as satan, my flesh is born of sin. Satan as a fallen angel is confirmed in his everlasting damnation, my confirmation comes upon my death, which i will pay the price of sin. Yet I have hope in Jesus Christ who atoned for my sin and saved me from the evil of this world. What can this world or Satan do to me, when I have resurrection to eternal life bought for me by the atonement of Jesus Christ upon the Cross?

Fourth, now whether there are satanists in a church, I beleive this is more fear than faith. There may be deranged people who think they get power from Satan. But if I focused on power, sex and money all the time, it would be the same thing. Satanist are selfish to the extreeme. And if a church is so liberal that Christ is no longer confessed nor beleived like in many of our liberal churches in this country, I can see where they may come to worship other things than The Holy Trinity.

But if that Church believes in Christ as Lord and God, there is nothing to fear from Satan.

The peace of Christ be with you all.
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People who write things like this usually do not have any experience in spiritual warfare.

Satan/Lucifer is a Cherub, Cherubs are the most powerful angels in all of creation. There are only six of them. The four living creatures, the cherub guarding the tree of life, and the most powerful cherub of all; Lucifer. He is powerful enough to garner the respect and the loyalty of a third of the angels, who he brought with him in the fall.

When people say, "the devil must be working on me..." Chances are they are talking about a Nephilim who has targeted them. The devil only takes time for the most important of people, and hardly at all for a believer.

Anyone who claims that satan or satanists do not have power has never been involved in spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6:12 says that it is "wrestling". That means it is probably not going to be a "walk in the park" it's going to be a battle,You're going to have to "put on the full armor of God," and not all who go into battle walk away. Spiritual warfare is first of all personal, you must have overcome your own personal demons before you can battle the hords of Hell.

The infiltrators are there to blind believers to who they are in Christ, thus rendering them powerless. The condition of the Church is testimony of their effectiveness.The scriptures call them "locusts" which means they are harvest destroyers. They are infiltrating the body of Christ to destroy the harvest; to assume they are powerless, defeated, and thus of no concern to the believer...is foolish to say the least, and plain blind to what the scriptures teach at worse. They should not be taken lightly, and if you know who you are in Christ, you will never be afraid of them. Each believer is far superior to them, but they must be walking in the light.


And finally, if you are a believer in Jesus Christ, and have made Him Lord; you have an "earnest of the expectation", you have a down payment of the Holy Spirit that brings you eternal life, if you "resist the grace of God" and do not go on to sanctification, they you will be left behind as a foolish virgin waiting on her bridegroom but without enough oil to be watchful. Christian maturity cost you everything...if you are not making any payment toward that end, then you are Christian in name only.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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Hey Op, can you share with us some basics on spiritual warfare?
How to put on the whole armor of God
How to use the sword of the spirit
How to tear down strongholds
How to bind the enemy
How to use the shield of faith
What it means to overcome the accuser by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony
Thank you
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1. How to put on the whole armor of God?: The armor of God is the life of God, and the closer you get to beiong like Jesus, the stronger your armor will be. The process begins with sanbctification; being set apart for holiness. You must first conquor your own demons before trying to tangle with the hords of Hell. We are told to "put on the Lord Jesus Christ"


2. How to use the sword of the spirit: When Jesus returns we see that the armies of earth are defeated by a two edged sword coming out of His mouth. This is using the word as an offensive weapon. All of creation, all of the dimensions, were all created by the word of God, by using the word of God (scripture) you command the dimensions to bring forth the covenant word or promise of God. Satan has no defense against it.

3. How to tear down strongholds: Strongholds are established in the higher realms through the imagination of men's hearts and minds. They can be torn down by using the word of God as a benchmark against any stronghold of evil upon the world. If Christians knew how to do this...the devil would not be in charge.

4. How to bind the enemy: That's easy, just command them to be bound on the basis of God's covenant word, in the name of Jesus Christ.

5. How to use the shield of faith: For some reason, every big battle I am in, it seems as if the Lord is a million miles away, and I am standing there, all alone to face Goliath. Of course just the opposite is true, but your faith will be tested at every time you exercise your spirit, but especially in warfare.You will have to draw upon your knowledge of the word, and trust in that word to get you through. I have had to fight for my life even, and still, in those dark moments, it seems as if God has forgotten you completely. You will have to lean upon the word, and not your feelings in that moment.The more your faith is tested, the stronger it will become; the hotter the fire you will have to go through, the stronger your faith will be, and thus, the shield to thwart all the weapons of the enemy.

6. What it means to overcome the accuser by the blood of the lamb and by the word of your testimony. Nobody can argue with your experience, and how you experience the Lord is your testimony, and it has power. I met the Lord, not in a church, but at work in a record producing plant. He changed my life, and I have not been the same since. I made a lot of money dealing drugs, I had a lot of popularity and local fame, but I left it all to follow Jesus Christ.Jesus Christ sealed me with His blood that day, and i have gone on to sanctification and holiness, and now, to warfare, where I place my life on the line each and every time I battle against a group of murderous Nephilim rulers of darkness. I am talked about in the highest circles of the elite powers that be. They feel as if I am a major threat to them. I am because I don't care if I die or not. I am confident that I will die in my appointed time...and it ain't time yet.




These were such great questions, and I probably could write a book on each question, but briefly I hope I have given you something you can use. The ultimate teqacher is the Lord's Holy Spirit. That is His job to lead us into all truth. I expect Him to do so each day that I face. And because of that, He uses me in a big way...but in a way that only is fully seen by Him.In this, I am able to lay up treasure in heaven by my obedience.
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