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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14484012 10/16/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is absolutely spot on. Someone once explained it to me as there being people that they respect, and people that they like... Don't worry about the lack of friendships - I know we're taught that it's bad to be unsociable, but don't believe it. We have different priorities in life, and there is nothing wrong with that - just cherish your family and your hobbies - they're both critical to having a fulfilled life, for us. And the idiot suggesting that we're possessed by little demons: stop and think for a moment, and you'll realise that what you are saying is pure evil. Thank you, I agree. Anyone who can say that social awkwardness results from demons is pretty off the wall themselves imo. That really comes out of left field. Anyways, this subject being brought up is making me question things yet again. For instance I work with a group of people, used to work in my own little office with one other person, perfect, but they changed that. Anways, when I walk into the room and say "hi" (I don't always) I get such a depressing response, barely audible responses. One of the girls, the outspoken one, has joked around with me about I should say hi when entering a room but then when I do it's like "Oh, it's HER ugh." I really don't understand why, when I'm friendly and smiling, people cannot reciprocate if even out of common courtesy? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4603602 10/16/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9 pages of mostly hate filled, uninformed bile. If any of you have lived with, or parented an ASPIE, you would be aware of the suffering of these people. Hypersensitivty to sounds, smell, crowds, the difficulty they have with simple eye contact,and their childhood experiences are the stuff of nightmares,they creep other kids out, are socially marginalised, and ultimately become reclusive. Yes, they usually have high levels of intelligence, and with a lot of occupational therapy and interactive help, they MAY just be able to find a niche in society where they feel comfortable. The signs of aspergers appear at a very early age, failure to thrive, difficulty into adult years with hand eye coordination, lack of 'affect' meaning, lack of facial expression, and problems with motor function, such as balance,I could go on,but the outward expression of Aspergers is very well documented. One of the key factors regarding Aspergers, is lack of empathy,not due to a sociopathic disorder,but due to a lack of "connection" with others. In my opinion they live a world without the comfort of friends. Be kind to Aspies, they are the ones who singularly focus on intellectual challenges, often they are found in specialised areas of academia. Kindness is the only way to interact with them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25954187 10/20/2012 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're all missing the point here; Asperger syndrome is not real as a disorder, though it is not the pharmaceutical companies who are responsible for this deviation. Now, I don't mean to be presumptios; however, I do have an idea of who is behind the epidemic of Aspergers. It is the king of a fierce countenance. When a human being displays love of wealth, such as coin collecting (Psalm 10:3), Stubournness and an unrepentant heart (Romans 2:5-8), and deviant eating habits- this could include eating one's excrement- (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), it is a possible sign that Satan has possessed them. Obviously, on it's own, this is not enough to convince us that possession is the answer, and exorcism the cure. However, we must remember that we are approaching the end times. The Antichrist and the false Preacher will soon begin recruiting minions to build the army of Satan, and this epidemic could be their work. Remember, guys, that aspergers are usually atheists; and atheism is a harsh attack on god (I think the false preacher may be a certain atheist demagogue who's written a few books and is very popular with aspergers people). This is, obviously, not conclusive proof of demonic possession, though I think it's worth some consideration. I'm sure there are exorcists more qualified in this field that we could invite to discuss this matter further on here. God bless us all in these turbulent times. Oh, and I am awfully sorry if my above post offends anybody; that is not the intention. However, the Lord's truth has to be spoken (Acts 10:42) (1 Corinthians 15:1) (Mark 16:15). |
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| musicgamerpro User ID: 32501353 01/18/2013 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a 12 year old with Aspergers, I can assure you that it is VERY real. It's fucking trolls like you that convince people that it's not. Tell me this, if it's not real, if social awkward-ness is just personality, if it's just an excuse, then why do all the symptoms come together? Answer me that. Plus, do you know how hard life can be? It really takes the piss that we go through this and you go and spout offensive bullshit like that. Don't just immediately dismiss the idea, think about how WE feel. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32501353 01/18/2013 05:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...it is a possible sign that Satan has possessed them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25954187 (...) The Antichrist and the false Preacher will soon begin recruiting minions to build the army of Satan, and this epidemic could be their work. Remember, guys, that aspergers are usually atheists; and atheism is a harsh attack on god... So now we're all fucking devil children... |
| musicgamerpro User ID: 32501353 01/18/2013 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...it is a possible sign that Satan has possessed them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25954187 (...) The Antichrist and the false Preacher will soon begin recruiting minions to build the army of Satan, and this epidemic could be their work. Remember, guys, that aspergers are usually atheists; and atheism is a harsh attack on god... So now we're all fucking devil children... |
| OneFootUnder I have a dog named Cat Stevens User ID: 32175979 01/18/2013 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...it is a possible sign that Satan has possessed them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25954187 (...) The Antichrist and the false Preacher will soon begin recruiting minions to build the army of Satan, and this epidemic could be their work. Remember, guys, that aspergers are usually atheists; and atheism is a harsh attack on god... So now we're all fucking devil children... ![]() And I'm not an atheist. Who knows - only time. ~ Enya ____ Fear and wonder, a powerful combination. ~ Gracchus (Gladiator) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22089462 01/18/2013 07:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're all missing the point here; Asperger syndrome is not real as a disorder, though it is not the pharmaceutical companies who are responsible for this deviation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25954187 Now, I don't mean to be presumptios; however, I do have an idea of who is behind the epidemic of Aspergers. It is the king of a fierce countenance. When a human being displays love of wealth, such as coin collecting (Psalm 10:3), Stubournness and an unrepentant heart (Romans 2:5-8), and deviant eating habits- this could include eating one's excrement- (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), it is a possible sign that Satan has possessed them. Obviously, on it's own, this is not enough to convince us that possession is the answer, and exorcism the cure. However, we must remember that we are approaching the end times. The Antichrist and the false Preacher will soon begin recruiting minions to build the army of Satan, and this epidemic could be their work. Remember, guys, that aspergers are usually atheists; and atheism is a harsh attack on god (I think the false preacher may be a certain atheist demagogue who's written a few books and is very popular with aspergers people). This is, obviously, not conclusive proof of demonic possession, though I think it's worth some consideration. I'm sure there are exorcists more qualified in this field that we could invite to discuss this matter further on here. God bless us all in these turbulent times. Oh, and I am awfully sorry if my above post offends anybody; that is not the intention. However, the Lord's truth has to be spoken (Acts 10:42) (1 Corinthians 15:1) (Mark 16:15). Uhm what? You first claim aspergers are the work of the devil and thus are evil. Then you claim you don't want to offend anyone with the drivel you just spewed? Are you a fucking retard? |
| Zuzu's Petals User ID: 31989439 01/18/2013 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing it is, is over diagnosed. It seems a lot of parents nowadays aren't happy unless their child has some sort of label. Children just can't be a little "different" anymore. You're no longer just shy or a child with an overactive imagination - you've got Asperger's! There is something 'wrong' with you. I work with children. I have parents come to me ALL the time telling me about some minor quirk and seeking some kind of label for it. It's ridiculous. Lord forbid someone enjoy their own company or talk a little too much...or not enough. There MUST be something wrong with them! Last Edited by Zuzu's Petals on 01/18/2013 07:15 AM "I don't have pet peeves; I have major psychotic ******* hatreds, okay. And it makes the world a lot easier to sort out." George Carlin [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31352237 01/18/2013 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am kind of with the OP especially hate when people subscribe a nickname to a syndrome. an 'aspie'? thats just crass, and it makes you sound like youre revelling in... this... specialness. in a club... of 'aspies' and it does you no favours, whether your suffer from something genuine or not every one and his dog has a syndrome, or a condition, or an allergy, or an intolerance not wishing to undermine those with a genuine problem, just stating what is obvious - we have started labelling behaviour that is, after all, still within the human behaviour range. and what do you know, more often than not, theres a drug, or other treatment for it we all know of parents who utterly thrive on such attention, and the parents who have nothing to offer but FUCK YOU too defensive, by far i have 2 boys. now, if one of them was diagnosed with a syndrome, i would bend over backwards to get to the bottom of it, and not actively go along with it, much less label him an 'aspie' |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31352237 01/18/2013 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a 12 year old with Aspergers, I can assure you that it is VERY real. It's fucking trolls like you that convince people that it's not. Tell me this, if it's not real, if social awkward-ness is just personality, if it's just an excuse, then why do all the symptoms come together? Answer me that. Plus, do you know how hard life can be? It really takes the piss that we go through this and you go and spout offensive bullshit like that. Don't just immediately dismiss the idea, think about how WE feel. Quoting: musicgamerpro 32501353 come off it, youre not 12 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31352237 01/18/2013 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing it is, is over diagnosed. It seems a lot of parents nowadays aren't happy unless their child has some sort of label. Children just can't be a little "different" anymore. You're no longer just shy or a child with an overactive imagination - you've got Asperger's! There is something 'wrong' with you. Quoting: Zuzu's Petals I work with children. I have parents come to me ALL the time telling me about some minor quirk and seeking some kind of label for it. It's ridiculous. Lord forbid someone enjoy their own company or talk a little too much...or not enough. There MUST be something wrong with them! ![]() when my youngest started school, soon enough, they were quick to point out his little quirks. he would go through phases. sometimes repeating a word over and over in a sentence. like a stutter, but not. just a drawn out way of saying his sentences. it passed then he would have a blink. that passed then he would have a movement he did with his mouth. that passed he grew out of it. a psychologist mate of mine thought it was just his way of coping at school, his way of staying focussed. i think she was right BUT THE SCHOOL WOULD HAVE HAD NO TROUBLE IN LABELLING HIM SOMETHING OR OTHER you should have seen them, all sat round the table with me one time when i was called in he had absolutely no problems whatsoever. never misbehaved. perfectly normal, happy young boy, and they made him feel bad! like something was up i wouldnt have minded but they were CLUELESS hence me having a quiet word with my psychologist friend huh, half the kids in his class were in 'special groups' and yet ive known parents who have dyslexic kids and the teachers have to be taught to recogcnose and deal with such children do not trust the authorities. dont let them label your kids! wankers |
| music User ID: 32567417 01/19/2013 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a 12 year old with Aspergers, I can assure you that it is VERY real. It's fucking trolls like you that convince people that it's not. Tell me this, if it's not real, if social awkward-ness is just personality, if it's just an excuse, then why do all the symptoms come together? Answer me that. Plus, do you know how hard life can be? It really takes the piss that we go through this and you go and spout offensive bullshit like that. Don't just immediately dismiss the idea, think about how WE feel. Quoting: musicgamerpro 32501353 come off it, youre not 12 Yes, I am. |
| musicgamerpro User ID: 32567417 01/19/2013 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a 12 year old with Aspergers, I can assure you that it is VERY real. It's fucking trolls like you that convince people that it's not. Tell me this, if it's not real, if social awkward-ness is just personality, if it's just an excuse, then why do all the symptoms come together? Answer me that. Plus, do you know how hard life can be? It really takes the piss that we go through this and you go and spout offensive bullshit like that. Don't just immediately dismiss the idea, think about how WE feel. Quoting: musicgamerpro 32501353 come off it, youre not 12 Yes, I am. |
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| Syrius User ID: 19364503 01/19/2013 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the South Park episode where Cartman has Aspergers. It portrays a fairly satirical look at what people now a days do to feel accepted with made believe symptoms. What happened to good old crazy and schizophrenic? That just wasn't special enough for recluses... Big Pharma loves your money btw, keep buying their wonderful drugs that destroy your serotonin production. Great cure. All around me are familiar faces... Worn out places...Worn out faces... |
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| Little Bee User ID: 24530075 01/19/2013 06:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a 12 year old with Aspergers, I can assure you that it is VERY real. It's fucking trolls like you that convince people that it's not. Tell me this, if it's not real, if social awkward-ness is just personality, if it's just an excuse, then why do all the symptoms come together? Answer me that. Plus, do you know how hard life can be? It really takes the piss that we go through this and you go and spout offensive bullshit like that. Don't just immediately dismiss the idea, think about how WE feel. Quoting: musicgamerpro 32501353 come off it, youre not 12 Yes, I am. That's what Asberger's is all about. High intelligence coupled with social awkwardness and probably a little OCD about special interests. It's nerd/geek gone over the top. Personalities are all on a continuum and Asberger's 's is just over the line from normality. "Ain't what you eat, it's the way how you chew it." --Delbert McClinton |
| Little Bee User ID: 24530075 01/19/2013 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're all missing the point here; Asperger syndrome is not real as a disorder, though it is not the pharmaceutical companies who are responsible for this deviation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25954187 Now, I don't mean to be presumptios; however, I do have an idea of who is behind the epidemic of Aspergers. It is the king of a fierce countenance. When a human being displays love of wealth, such as coin collecting (Psalm 10:3), Stubournness and an unrepentant heart (Romans 2:5-8), and deviant eating habits- this could include eating one's excrement- (1 Corinthians 6:19-20), it is a possible sign that Satan has possessed them. Obviously, on it's own, this is not enough to convince us that possession is the answer, and exorcism the cure. However, we must remember that we are approaching the end times. The Antichrist and the false Preacher will soon begin recruiting minions to build the army of Satan, and this epidemic could be their work. Remember, guys, that aspergers are usually atheists; and atheism is a harsh attack on god (I think the false preacher may be a certain atheist demagogue who's written a few books and is very popular with aspergers people). This is, obviously, not conclusive proof of demonic possession, though I think it's worth some consideration. I'm sure there are exorcists more qualified in this field that we could invite to discuss this matter further on here. God bless us all in these turbulent times. Oh, and I am awfully sorry if my above post offends anybody; that is not the intention. However, the Lord's truth has to be spoken (Acts 10:42) (1 Corinthians 15:1) (Mark 16:15). Whoa! Watch out dude! There's lots of shrink types who would consider that a prime example of paranoid-schizophrenic delusion. Everybody's funny, as George Thorogood says. "Ain't what you eat, it's the way how you chew it." --Delbert McClinton |
| musicgamerpro User ID: 32567417 01/19/2013 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a 12 year old with Aspergers, I can assure you that it is VERY real. It's fucking trolls like you that convince people that it's not. Tell me this, if it's not real, if social awkward-ness is just personality, if it's just an excuse, then why do all the symptoms come together? Answer me that. Plus, do you know how hard life can be? It really takes the piss that we go through this and you go and spout offensive bullshit like that. Don't just immediately dismiss the idea, think about how WE feel. Quoting: musicgamerpro 32501353 come off it, youre not 12 Yes, I am. That's what Asberger's is all about. High intelligence coupled with social awkwardness and probably a little OCD about special interests. It's nerd/geek gone over the top. Personalities are all on a continuum and Asberger's 's is just over the line from normality. Yeah I guess... |
| Zuzu's Petals User ID: 31989439 01/19/2013 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are you so busy insulting us? Have we done something to you? Quoting: kat I have never had any special treatment. Instead I have spent a lifetime trying to understand why I cannot keep friends, why people never talk about the elephant in the room, or other obvious things. We really don't understand the rest of you and why you behave the ways you do socially. We try to adapt, look you in the eye while we talk to you, understand your "beating around the bush way of interacting with other people." You all just look like a bunch of liars to us aspies. Why can't you just talk honestly and straight forward. Stop playing games. I don't know any parent of a child with Asperger's, or anyone who has it themselves, refer to them as "aspies." It's almost like making a joke of it. It's odd. In any case, many people wouldn't even know that someone has Asperger's. As someone said, it is a VERY vague spectrum. My God, you don't like to make eye contact with people? You must have Asperger's! You like "me" time a lot more than time with others? You must have Asperger's! You're shy? You must have Asperger's! You talk obsessively about a particular because you...like it? You must have Asperger's. A kid cries because he doesn't get his way, and has never heard the word no before? He must have Asperger's. A lot of what they use to diagnose Asperger's is absolutely ridiculous. Last Edited by Zuzu's Petals on 01/19/2013 08:34 AM "I don't have pet peeves; I have major psychotic ******* hatreds, okay. And it makes the world a lot easier to sort out." George Carlin [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Zuzu's Petals User ID: 31989439 01/19/2013 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing it is, is over diagnosed. It seems a lot of parents nowadays aren't happy unless their child has some sort of label. Children just can't be a little "different" anymore. You're no longer just shy or a child with an overactive imagination - you've got Asperger's! There is something 'wrong' with you. Quoting: Zuzu's Petals I work with children. I have parents come to me ALL the time telling me about some minor quirk and seeking some kind of label for it. It's ridiculous. Lord forbid someone enjoy their own company or talk a little too much...or not enough. There MUST be something wrong with them! ![]() when my youngest started school, soon enough, they were quick to point out his little quirks. he would go through phases. sometimes repeating a word over and over in a sentence. like a stutter, but not. just a drawn out way of saying his sentences. it passed then he would have a blink. that passed then he would have a movement he did with his mouth. that passed he grew out of it. a psychologist mate of mine thought it was just his way of coping at school, his way of staying focussed. i think she was right BUT THE SCHOOL WOULD HAVE HAD NO TROUBLE IN LABELLING HIM SOMETHING OR OTHER you should have seen them, all sat round the table with me one time when i was called in he had absolutely no problems whatsoever. never misbehaved. perfectly normal, happy young boy, and they made him feel bad! like something was up i wouldnt have minded but they were CLUELESS hence me having a quiet word with my psychologist friend huh, half the kids in his class were in 'special groups' and yet ive known parents who have dyslexic kids and the teachers have to be taught to recogcnose and deal with such children do not trust the authorities. dont let them label your kids! wankers I completely agree. If I was a child in school today, they'd have diagnosed me with something. I was shy (still am), liked to read instead of "pretend play," liked time to myself. Parents come to me describing ME as a child, and thinking something is wrong. We all have 'quirks,' should we all walk around with a label? Will that make everyone happy? Someone in another post pointed out the lack of parenting resulting in kids who have tantrums, and don't like "change" which is just a fancy way of saying they get their way all the time and have a fit when they don't. I have had kids come to me with Asperger's. I've given them tough love - as in I set boundaries, they don't get their way all the time, I teach them how to deal with not getting their way all the time, I have expectations of them, and just like magic, their behaviour changes, and the parents are left asking me "Why is he a completely different child at school?" It's not hard to do the math. "I don't have pet peeves; I have major psychotic ******* hatreds, okay. And it makes the world a lot easier to sort out." George Carlin [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| Textbook Aspie User ID: 20685413 01/19/2013 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9 pages of an uninformed shill pushing people's buttons.... In the wake of Adam Lanza and his presumed Aspergers, OP sounds like he has an agenda...... As a Textbook Aspergers, soon to be classified as a 'high-functioning autistic' under the sweeping DSM5 changes, I can see both sides of the coin. Yes, Aspergers is a real syndrome as Hans Asperger himself spent decades documenting. So did Baron-Cohen, Abbott etc. In every single brain scan of Aspergians it shows that the brain itself has formed very differently than Neurotypical brains. This is a fact. It's very real. On the other hand, the general population have been given a very twisted view of what we are by posers, fakes and charlatans claiming to have Aspergers for their own sick and disturbing reasons. There are a number of 'high-profile' Aspies who go out of their way to be in the spotlight when they infact don't even have Aspergers. They are all over YouTube sadly, with their 'poor me' stories and ridiculously 'normal' appearances and expressiveness. These people have hurt and misrepresented the Aspergers community in so many ways. As the public only see these fools. Donna Williams, Alex Plank, the hand waving YouTube idiot woman to name a few. There are many normal people posting vids and writing blogs that it's only natural to the casual observer that Aspergers looks and appears to be a "fake disease" as the people representing themselves are unconvincing and fake indeed. Am I mad at OP..no, not at all. I understand where he's coming from. What I am mad at is the hordes of people claiming to have an ailment they don't actually have just to get attention. I, myself wouldn't wish Aspergers on anyone. Yeah, it's ok to be able to absorb information at a fast rate, think outside the box and have innovative ideas, but as major depression, extreme anxiety, social loneliness also come with the package, nobody would want this... Cheers. |