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Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?

 
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We could have a supergiant planet or brown dwarf as a companion, its easy to see (relative) that in many other star systems (especially with G class stars) a binary setup is more the "norm" than a single star. However, its easy because we are far away and thus have a "better" PoV. To find a brown dwarf with an odd orbit (read: not along the ecliptic) in our own star system is far more difficult. Browns don't really shine and are more dark than our other planets (except in the infrared) and thus would be easily missed, especially in a non-conformant orbit.

That being said, I have seen some good data on the effects of the pull happening in our outer system giants. Something is definately affecting them and that gravity field seems to be coming from "south" of our ecliptic. What it is or whether it poses a danger to us would just be pure speculation at this point without observable data on the object and location. But that "something" with a large mass does exist out there is pretty solid right now (to me anyways.) I just don't think its what most PXers believe. Sometimes we human beings have a hard time dealing with the immense size and power of objects in the universe and if such a brown dwarf does really exist, a nearby passage in our past would have caused a full extinction level event on Earth; wiped us clean...
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alien03 yes
 Quoting: ATE 772524

not at all!
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Does this mean if you have a popstar.. you also have an anti-popstar?! yikes!
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a nearby passage in our past would have caused a full extinction level event on Earth; wiped us clean...
 Quoting: Archaic

Even lysol wipes with bleach only gets 99.9% of the germs...chuckle

But on a more serious note given the satan/dragon mythoses dragging a third of the stars to earth...this has happened before and look where we are...

But also with the flood myths remenants of many cultures were "warned" and "saved"

Not an ELE per say....then again look what happened to Tiamat.
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And check this out!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Multiple star systems or physical multiple stars are systems of more than two stars.[4][5] Multiple star systems are called triple, trinary or ternary if they contain three stars; quadruple or quaternary if they contain four stars; quintuple with five stars; sextuple with six stars; septuple with seven stars; and so on. These systems are smaller than open star clusters, which have more complex dynamics and typically have from 100 to 1,000 stars.[6
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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yes, sirius is our companion star, actually it's a trinary system - the sun is a wormhole


yeah, in the end all systems are trinary because number 3 is the number of reality and manifestation. the trinity. reality can only "happen" by the trinity. for example: sun, moon, earth / -> without these three there would be no human life.

"but gus, we have two magnetic poles in Nature!" ok, but there is a third one. can you tell me what it is?
 Quoting: gus.

In correlation to that thought: a human has two eyes.

Two Ears.

Two nostrils.

An inner and an outer solar system.

Before the Big Bang there was just two: the white dot and the black canvass.

I had 3 but I threw one out.
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Looking at the EQ swarms in Haiti, Yellowstone AND the volcanic eruptions in Mexico, it is COMPLETELY likely that the earth IS being affected by the approach of some LARGE celestial body....
 Quoting: Dream Killer

Or just a change in our sun.

Which planetoid is ruler of this solar system?
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a nearby passage in our past would have caused a full extinction level event on Earth; wiped us clean...

Even lysol wipes with bleach only gets 99.9% of the germs...chuckle

But on a more serious note given the satan/dragon mythoses dragging a third of the stars to earth...this has happened before and look where we are...

But also with the flood myths remenants of many cultures were "warned" and "saved"

Not an ELE per say....then again look what happened to Tiamat.
 Quoting: RexKristos

Tiamat is not real; Earth was not in the orbital the asteroid belt now sits...

The reason why the asteroid belt is an asteroid belt is the gravity of Jupiter stopped it from becoming a planet.

There is no PX.

The winged globes? They were a representation of the Ark.

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Tiamat is not real; Earth was not in the orbital the asteroid belt now sits...

The reason why the asteroid belt is an asteroid belt is the gravity of Jupiter stopped it from becoming a planet.

There is no PX.

The winged globes? They were a representation of the Ark.
 Quoting: Jodido

I suppose the sumerians stamped bedtime stories into clay?

The sumerian ark? ...the egyptian ark? ...the akadian ark?

Wings are easily accounted for by bowshock waves.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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BIG follower/beleiver of Nibiru, Nemesis, The Winged Globe, (plus 19 other names from the ancient world) BUT, why start out with info (Andy Lloyd) that is 7-8years old ?

If you represent Nancy, just say so, OK ?

Eagle
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There is no PX.
 Quoting: Jodido

Can we agree on an extrasolar body of some type?

from [link to www.enterprisemission.com]

This whole system is further complicated by the more local influence of at least one massive previously unseen member(s) of the solar system. The Hyperdimensional model is built on the core idea that it is the angular momentum of the planets that is the cause of not only the sun's energetic output, but the anomalous energy output of the outer planets as well. As Enterprise principal investigator Richard Hoagland first laid out in the Hyperdimensional Physics paper, there must be (in the Hyperdimensional model) one massive or two relatively average sized bodies far beyond the orbit of Pluto for the system to work. Without them, there is missing angular momentum in the system.

So there was an inherent prediction in the model, backed by a specific prediction in the paper, that we would find these other missing planets in far distant orbits. Since that paper was put forth in July 1998, there has been a confirmation of exactly such a discovery. Unfortunately, this is hardly good news. It is bad enough that we may be approaching one of the key angular relationships on the precessional circle, but if the Earth were to find itself in alignment with the spin axis of one of these larger, unseen bodies, say at an angle of 90° or 180°, then that also could be the trigger for the Earth to try and realign itself with this larger system.

Certainly, evidence exists that we may be close to just such a circumstance.

This latest admission of the probable existence of a tenth planet is not the first such story to hit the news. Indeed, it seems that NASA may have been looking for the source of this "missing momentum" for years. In 1983, an announcement was made to the effect that the IRAS Infrared satellite had discovered a massive and at that time inexplicable object very far out in the solar system. JPL scientist Gerry Neugebauer and Cornell professor Dr. James Houck were interviewed by the Washington Post (click here to see the article page 1 and page 2) and were quite unambiguous in their assessment of the object.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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[link to www.enterprisemission.com]

[link to www.enterprisemission.com]
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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if you google "h s stuttman" then click on google images, there is a diagram with circles. Take a look at that, It was released to stuttman who make science encyclopedias direct from nasa/jpl (i have proof). Once these are sent to the publishers and go to press, there is no possible way to recall them. You can see a dead star and also a 10th planet , you can also see the pioneer 10 & 11 space probes and their projected paths through the solar system!
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WISE Satellite launched in December 2009.

Here is what the Berkeley folks are thinking:

[link to wise.ssl.berkeley.edu]

Science: Brown Dwarfs

Until recently the distinction between stars and planets was clear, but in the last few years astronomers have discovered a wealth of objects with masses between those of stars and planets. Such objects are called brown dwarfs.

Brown dwarfs share characteristics with both stars and planets. They are thought to form the same way that stars do—from collapsing gas that heats up within interstellar clouds—but with too little mass to generate the heat sufficient to ignite hydrogen fusion in their cores. The coolest known brown dwarfs have complex atmospheres composed of molecules such as methane, a trait also seen in the giant planets of our Solar System. As a result, brown dwarfs are useful tools in teaching us not only about the low-mass end of star formation but also about the chemical makeup of exoplanets.

These brown dwarfs, because they have no central energy source, continue to cool forever, much like embers plucked from a roaring fire. Also like embers, brown dwarfs become redder as they cool, so the best prospect for discovering them is with surveys conducted at infrared wavelengths. Current surveys such as the Two-Micron All Sky Survey (2MASS) and the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS) have been instrumental in discovering hordes of these objects.

Despite the success of surveys such as 2MASS and SDSS, they have been unable to find brown dwarfs cooler than 750 degrees Kelvin. Cooler objects primarily emit light at wavelengths longer than either of those surveys probe, and it is at these wavelengths where WISE will operate. With WISE we will be able to see 450-K brown dwarfs out to a distance of 75 light-years (ly), 300-K brown dwarfs out to 20 ly, and 150-K brown dwarfs out to 10 ly. Finding these cooler objects will provide examples of exoplanet-like atmospheres in order to investigate atmospheric properties in the unexplored temperatures between 150 and 750 Kelvin.

WISE will determine how common these objects are in our own Solar Neighborhood, allowing us to measure the efficiency of the star formation process at its lowest masses. WISE will also allow us to determine if star formation has a cut-off mass below which formation is inhibited. At the moment, we believe that brown dwarfs are as prevalent as stars. Because brown dwarfs are so common, it is likely that the closest "star" to the Sun is not Proxima Centauri but some hitherto undiscovered brown dwarf that will be imaged successfully for the first time by WISE.
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if you google "h s stuttman" then click on google images, there is a diagram with circles. Take a look at that, It was released to stuttman who make science encyclopedias direct from nasa/jpl (i have proof). Once these are sent to the publishers and go to press, there is no possible way to recall them. You can see a dead star and also a 10th planet , you can also see the pioneer 10 & 11 space probes and their projected paths through the solar system!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 890270

Nice find!
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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I'd like to open a venue for the placement of information regarding our solar system actually being a BINARY system, with a Brown Dwarf as the companion star...

I have a good amount of information and links I'll be posting to this thread, and am interested in hearing from anyone with information, opinion, or curiosity regarding this possibility.

YES, it IS a "shooting gallery" out there....

And we are in it! stars
 Quoting: Dream Killer 843139


it was a Binary Star System:

The Sun, and Namesis (The Dark Companion)

This system captured a Brown Dwarf Called "Shiva The Destroyer" or Nibiru.

And Now is a "Trinary" Star System.

with the particularity that these Brown Dwarf trigger a Deadly periodical 90 deg Geographic Poleshift on Earth!

Is time to find the Safest Places to ride the incoming poleshift, here on GLP!

Choose Life!
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it was a Binary Star System:

The Sun, and Namesis (The Dark Companion)

This system captured a Brown Dwarf Called "Shiva The Destroyer" or Nibiru.

And Now is a "Trinary" Star System.

with the particularity that these Brown Dwarf trigger a Deadly periodical 90 deg Geographic Poleshift on Earth!

Is time to find the Safest Places to ride the incoming poleshift, here on GLP!

Choose Life!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 890169

Intersting twist! Haven't heard the trinary hypothesis till now.

Warning...we have a "thinker"
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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I'd like to open a venue for the placement of information regarding our solar system actually being a BINARY system, with a Brown Dwarf as the companion star...

I have a good amount of information and links I'll be posting to this thread, and am interested in hearing from anyone with information, opinion, or curiosity regarding this possibility.

YES, it IS a "shooting gallery" out there....

And we are in it! stars


it was a Binary Star System:

The Sun, and Namesis (The Dark Companion)

This system captured a Brown Dwarf Called "Shiva The Destroyer" or Nibiru.

And Now is a "Trinary" Star System.

with the particularity that these Brown Dwarf trigger a Deadly periodical 90 deg Geographic Poleshift on Earth!

Is time to find the Safest Places to ride the incoming poleshift, here on GLP!

Choose Life!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 890169

Besides the fact that what you say is utterly not true; what is about to happen is far deeper than that. Forget doomesday, not gonna happen.
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Besides the fact that what you say is utterly not true; what is about to happen is far deeper than that. Forget doomesday, not gonna happen.
 Quoting: Jodido

Deeper as in core collapse...OMG! chuckle

Okay, seriously...what is your hypothesis?
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Okay, seriously...what is your hypothesis?
 Quoting: RexKristos

Perhaps you have already....time for some thread wading...

Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 02/13/2010 05:18 PM
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A one star system. All the observable binary systems show the companion star stays rather close to the main star. Planets stay outside the two stars orbit. I would imagine the gravity around these two suns would make life on these planets pretty tuff.

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