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Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?

 
Dream Killer
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Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
I'd like to open a venue for the placement of information regarding our solar system actually being a BINARY system, with a Brown Dwarf as the companion star...

I have a good amount of information and links I'll be posting to this thread, and am interested in hearing from anyone with information, opinion, or curiosity regarding this possibility.

YES, it IS a "shooting gallery" out there....

And we are in it! stars
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alien03 yes
Anonymous Coward
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Ok... I will keep an open mind, please post your information and we will examine it and see for ourselves.

I'd like to see what data you have on the location of this brown dwarf... where is it?
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yes, sirius is our companion star, actually it's a trinary system - the sun is a wormhole
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NEMESIS!! BEWARE!!
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my hypothesis is that all solar systems are binary. the second star lies in a higher dimension, which also means a looong physical distance. <- reason why we cannot detect it.

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Quite likely, new discovery shows. . .

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Binary Star Systems are the norm why should our sun be any different.

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Ok... I will keep an open mind, please post your information and we will examine it and see for ourselves.

I'd like to see what data you have on the location of this brown dwarf... where is it?
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1 + 1 = 2 stars

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my hypothesis is that all solar systems are binary. the second star lies in a higher dimension, which also means a looong physical distance. <- reason why we cannot detect it.

[link to docvphysics.blogspot.com]
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You're in another dimension !
Dream Killer (OP)
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OK! Let's get this rolling...

Here's the first link, which trees out to other sites with more information....

I'm on my laptop right now, but will make available more info later, along with some of my own thoughts on this...

[link to www.darkstar1.co.uk]
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yes, sirius is our companion star, actually it's a trinary system - the sun is a wormhole
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yeah, in the end all systems are trinary because number 3 is the number of reality and manifestation. the trinity. reality can only "happen" by the trinity. for example: sun, moon, earth / -> without these three there would be no human life.

"but gus, we have two magnetic poles in Nature!" ok, but there is a third one. can you tell me what it is?
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I find myself wondering why OP didn't post any of the promised links first....

OP, you need to post the info you have asap... I feel a breeze picking up and it's good weather for flag waving.
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i'm fascinated by the subject but thios smells somewhat of an author trying to flog his book (certianly the website and the OP may even be the author)
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Re: Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
Interconnectedness of events surrounding the approach of the dwarf to perihelion with Sol...


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Cross Post from the Nebraska Fireball event of 12/16/09:

Study on the solar system we live in actually being a BINARY system, with a "Brown" (read: INVISIBLE) Dwarf as Sol's companion. This body has disrupted the Oort Cloud and the Kuiper Belt many times before. The orbit of Pluto has been perturbed without any other clear explanation. This object is approaching perihelion, and we are being approached by the 3rd node ring of magnetic force as it draws closer. Like atoms and molecules, bodies orbit each other in shells. The first such shell or magnetic node line occurred during the Sumatra earthquake, the second was the Peruvian earthquake, as the third approaches, we may be encountering either objects in orbit around this brown dwarf, or experiencing perturbations of the Oort Cloud and/or Kuiper Belt. The third node ring is due to cross earth between late Dec. 2009 to early Jan. 2010. This companion star has a N/S orientation that is 90 degrees out of phase with us, anyone noticing geese flying east or west? I certainly have, and so have many others....
Dream Killer (OP)
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i'm fascinated by the subject but thios smells somewhat of an author trying to flog his book (certianly the website and the OP may even be the author)
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I do NOT have any book out there, but have been a lead researcher for syndicated radio talk shows and a journalist for some years. I am merely "standing on the shoulders" of already extant work, and trying to bring together the mish-mash of stuff out there in one cogent forum...

Hope that clarifies my intent. Thanks!
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Re: Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
OK! Let's get this rolling...

Here's the first link, which trees out to other sites with more information....

I'm on my laptop right now, but will make available more info later, along with some of my own thoughts on this...

[link to www.darkstar1.co.uk]
 Quoting: Dream Killer 843139


PXtard shilling books.
No wonder you were so coy about it.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Re: Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
I find myself wondering why OP didn't post any of the promised links first....

OP, you need to post the info you have asap... I feel a breeze picking up and it's good weather for flag waving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 845929



Doing this on the fly at work at the moment, not on my home computer, just on breaks, didn't expect this flurry of activity so quickly, please be a bit patient for today...

Will post more info ASAP!
Dream Killer (OP)
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12/21/2009 03:19 PM
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Re: Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
A rose by any other name...

[link to www.subversiveelement.com]
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NEMESIS!! BEWARE!!
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Taken together in the absence of OBSERVATION, the influence of SOMETHING large "out there" is undeniable, even if "we don't know for sure..."

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Dream Killer (OP)
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12/21/2009 03:30 PM
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Re: Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
While the yahoo link declines to acknowledge that this "companion" star will influence other planets due to the distances involved, I submit this conclusion cannot be completely accurate as we have never experienced the star going through perihelion.

I cannot state unequivocally that there IS such a star in a dance with our solar system, I'm only pointing out the confluence of events and using Occams razor as a guidepost.

IF there IS such a star out there, it would explain virtually EVERYTHING, including possibly the spiral event. Magnetospheres colliding could certainly cause such displays.
Dream Killer (OP)
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12/21/2009 03:40 PM
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Re: Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
Here's some technical analysis of this phenomenon:


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Dream Killer (OP)
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12/21/2009 03:45 PM
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The following is a raw data translation courtesy of Babelfish, it's rough, but the data is there...

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Dream Killer (OP)
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Re: Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
Strange orbiting bodies...

[link to www.space.com]
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Re: Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
Kind of...the brown dwarf you refered to is the same as the yellow gas ball we all know about. It's just different.

The other side of the same coin...


...I assure you, however, that there is not a whole nother star in the solar system. That is just a misinterpretation of the available information.
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Yes it is.
Time is a construct of thought alone
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Pertinent excerpt from website linked above:

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On June 17, 1982, a NASA press release from Ames Research Center officially recognized the possibility of "some kind of mystery object" beyond the outermost planets. Various press releases around this time confirmed that scientists were indeed looking for the infamous Planet X. For instance, Astronomy magazine published an article in December of 1981 entitled "Search for the Tenth Planet," and another article in October of 1982 entitled "Searching for a Tenth Planet." In addition, Newsweek covered the story of Planet X on June 28, 1982 in an article entitled "Does the Sun Have a Dark Companion?" This article implied that the tenth planet actually orbits a two sun (binary star) system, but we cannot see the other sun because it is a "dark" star. The article stated:
"A 'dark companion' could produce the unseen force that seems to tug at Uranus and Neptune, speeding them up at one point in their orbits and holding them back as they pass. The best bet is a dark star orbiting at least 50 billion miles beyond Pluto. It is most likely either a brown dwarf, or a neutron star. Others suggest it is a tenth planet since a companion star would tug at the other planets, not just Uranus and Neptune."
The Washington Post covered the story of Planet X on the front page on December 31, 1983 called "Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered." This story reported that the Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS) detected heat from an object about fifty billion miles away. A report of an interview with chief scientist Gerry Neugebauer from Jet Propulsion Laboratories appeared in the story. The article stated:
"A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. 'All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is,' said Gerry Neugebauer, chief IRAS scientist."
The Post article went on to explain that this mysterious object has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, but its infrared heat signature was detected twice by IRAS as it scanned the northern sky between January and November of 1983. The second infrared observation of the body, which is so cold it casts no light, noted that the body appeared not to have moved in six months. This suggested that the object is not a comet, since it probably would have moved. The article also explained that the infrared telescope aboard IRAS, which is able to detect very cold objects, calculated that the heavenly body was so cold that its temperature is about 459 F below zero.
Astronomers suggested it was a "giant gaseous planet, as large as Jupiter," and is so close that "it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto." This would make it part of our solar system. The article explained that there had been some speculation that the object "might be moving toward Earth." However, Cal Tech's Neugebauer was careful to "douse that idea with as much cold water as I can." He pronounced with certainty that this object "is not incoming mail." The US News World Report on September 10, 1984 published an article called "Planet X - Is it Really Out There?" This article had the following to say about Planet X:
"Shrouded from the sun's light, mysteriously tugging at the orbits of Uranus and Neptune, is an unseen force that astronomers suspect may be Planet X - a 10th resident of the Earth's celestial neighborhood. Last year, the infrared astronomical satellite (IRAS), circling in a polar orbit 560 miles from the Earth, detected heat from an object about 50 billion miles away that is now the subject of intense speculation."
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Re: Is our Solar System a Binary Star System?
If our sun does have a companion star it has to be pretty far out there. First off a brown dwarf will be 10 to 75 times the mass of Jupiter. Jupiter is a very bright object. So for an object 10 to 75 times more massive not to be seen and not to have a obvious impact on the sun and planets gravitationally, it has to be atleast a lightyear or more away. Still it is plausible.


[link to news.discovery.com]
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according to wikipedia, there's a 33% chance our sun is part of a binary system.

"Research findings
It is estimated that approximately 1/3 of the star systems in the Milky Way are binary or multiple, with the remaining 2/3 consisting of single stars"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I'd like to open a venue for the placement of information regarding our solar system actually being a BINARY system, with a Brown Dwarf as the companion star...

I have a good amount of information and links I'll be posting to this thread, and am interested in hearing from anyone with information, opinion, or curiosity regarding this possibility.

YES, it IS a "shooting gallery" out there....

And we are in it! stars
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I would think it is very possible.
Dream Killer (OP)
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12/21/2009 04:34 PM
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If our sun does have a companion star it has to be pretty far out there. First off a brown dwarf will be 10 to 75 times the mass of Jupiter. Jupiter is a very bright object. So for an object 10 to 75 times more massive not to be seen and not to have a obvious impact on the sun and planets gravitationally, it has to be atleast a lightyear or more away. Still it is plausible.


[link to news.discovery.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 842606



Please read the above excerpt...





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