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It is not 2012- It is 2013

 
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It is not 2012- It is 2013
Well being 3 years away from Dec. 21st, 2012 as of today, I have realized the calendar doesn't end on 12/21/12, but in 2013 instead. I have proof as well!
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whatever
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And PIN THIS once I reveal!
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And PIN THIS once I reveal!
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yOU AIN'T GOT NOTHING BITCH!
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And PIN THIS once I reveal!


yOU AIN'T GOT NOTHING BITCH!
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hmm makes me not want to share now :(
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Well being 3 years away from Dec. 21st, 2012 as of today, I have realized the calendar doesn't end on 12/21/12, but in 2013 instead. I have proof as well!
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I too suspect it may be march 22nd, 2013 exactly 33 years from building the Georgia Guidestones...

I am not saying I am sure, just suspect
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yOU AIN'T GOT NOTHING BITCH!


hmm makes me not want to share now :(
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That's cause you ain't got nothing!
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12/21/2009 09:37 PM
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Wanna to bet? :)
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Wanna to bet? :)
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How?
Via paypal?

Pffft... I still see NOTHING!
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12/21/2009 09:42 PM
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Wanna to bet? :)


How?
Via paypal?

Pffft... I still see NOTHING!
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Paypal! LOL! Naw, this is free of charge. But please relax. One moment please.
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Wanna to bet? :)
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DO NOT DELAY 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHHH... go away!
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Re: It is not 2012- It is 2013
Dec 16th, 2013 13.0.1.0.0 (13 Ahau)

Sept. 13th, 1619 12.0.1.0.0 (1 Ahau)

June 10th, 1225 11.0.1.0.0 (2 Ahau)

March 8th, 831 10.0.1.0.0 (3 Ahau)

Dec. 3rd, 436 9.0.1.0.0 (4 Ahau)

Aug. 31st 42 8.0.1.0.0 (5 Ahau)

May 28th, -352 B.C. 7.0.1.0.0 (6 Ahau)

Feb. 23rd -746 B.C. 6.0.1.0.0 (7 Ahau)

Nov. 21st -1141 B.C. 5.0.1.0.0 (8 Ahau)

Aug. 18th -1535 B.C. 4.0.1.0.0 (9 Ahau)

May 16th -1929 B.C. 3.0.1.0.0 (10 Ahau)

Feb. 10th -2323 B.C. 2.0.1.0.0 (11 Ahau)

Nov. 8th -2718 B.C. 1.0.1.0.0 (12 Ahau)

August 5th -3112 B.C. 0.0.1.0.0 (13 Ahau)

Aug. 11th, -3113 B.C. 0.0.0.0.0 (4 Ahau)
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And it can thus be considered that Dec. 21st, 2012 is like Jan. 1st, 2000 and that Dec. 16th, 2013 is Jan. 1st. 2001

Popular culture misconception is that New Year 2000 was the start of the 21st century and the millennium but New Year 2001 actually marked the first year of these two distinctions. So essentially now then Dec. 16th, 2013 marks the start of the new beginning and not Dec. 21st, 2012!
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12/21/2009 09:47 PM
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Here is the calendar conversion tool.

[link to www.diagnosis2012.co.uk]
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12/21/2009 09:48 PM
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I stand corrected, you have something.
Cool.
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I stand corrected, you have something.
Cool.
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You want a little something more? This is the proof!
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I stand corrected, you have something.
Cool.


You want a little something more? This is the proof!
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Yep, yep, can't argue with the numbers.
What else you got?
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12/21/2009 09:56 PM
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Well! That's Just Great OP.
A whole extra year ....
Dandy.
suicide
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12/21/2009 09:59 PM
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I stand corrected, you have something.
Cool.


You want a little something more? This is the proof!


Yep, yep, can't argue with the numbers.
What else you got?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 846605


Dec. 16th, 2013 (13 Ahau) 13.0.1.0.0

Katun- 144,000 days

At the end of the 13 Ahau Katun

Hunab-ku= Galactic Center

The prophecy of Chilam Balam, the singer, of Cabal-chen, 4 Mani. (below)


On <the day> 13 Ahau the katun will end in the time of the Itzá, in the time of /

Tancah <Mayapan>, lord. There is the sign of Hunab-ku 6 on high. The raised wooden standard shall come. It shall be displayed to the world, that the world may be enlightened, lord. There has been a beginning of strife, there has been a beginning of rivalry, when the priestly man shall come to bring the sign <of God> in time to come, lord. A quarter of a league, a league <away> he comes. You see the mut 9-bird surmounting the raised wooden standard. A new day shall dawn in the north, in the west.

Itzamná Kauil shall rise. Our lord comes, Itzá. Our elder brother comes, <oh> men of Tantun. Receive your guests, the bearded men, the men of the east, the bearers of the sign of God, lord. Good indeed is the word of God that comes to us. The day of our regeneration comes. You do not fear the world, Lord, you are the only God who created us. It is sufficient, then, that the word of God is good, lord. <He is> the guardian of our souls. He who receives him, who has truly believed, he will go to heaven with him. Nevertheless <at> the beginning were the two-day men.
Let us exalt his sign on high, let us exalt it <that we may gaze upon it today with the raised standard. Great is the discord that arises today. The First Tree of the World is restored; it is displayed to the world. This is the sign of Hunab-ku on high. Worship it, Itzá. You shall worship today his sign on high. You shall worship it furthermore with true good will, and you shall worship the true God today, lord. You shall be converted to the word of Hunab-ku, lord; it came from heaven. Oh it is he who speaks to you! Be admonished indeed, Itzá. They will correct their ways who receive him in their hearts in another katun, lord.
Believe in my word itself, I am Chilam Balam, and I have interpreted the entire message of the true God <of> the world; it is heard in every part of the world, lord, the word of God, the Lord of heaven and earth. Very good indeed is his word in heaven, lord.
He is ruler over us; he is the true God over our souls. /

But those to whom <the word> is brought, lord: thrice weighed down is their strength, the younger brothers native to the land. Their hearts are submerged <in sin>. Their hearts are dead in their carnal sins. They are frequent backsliders, the principal ones who spread <sin>, Nacxit Xuchit in the carnal sin of his companions, the two-day rulers.<They sit> crookedly on their thrones; crookedly in carnal sin. Two-day men they call them. For two days <endure> their seats, their cups, their hats. They are the unrestrained lewd ones of the day, the unrestrained lewd ones of the night, the rogues of the world. They twist their necks, they wink their eyes, they slaver at the mouth, at the rulers of the land, lord. Behold, when they come, there is no truth in the words of the foreigners to the land. They tell very solemn and mysterious things, the sons of the men of Seven-deserted-buildings, the offspring of the women of Seven-deserted-buildings, lord.

Who will be the prophet, who will be the priest who shall interpret truly the word of the book?

[link to sacred-texts.com]
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what's 0ct 28 2011 all about then, If I want the truth ill have to research myself.
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12/21/2009 10:18 PM
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its actually 2014....my AlenI pet told me.
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what's 0ct 28 2011 all about then, If I want the truth ill have to research myself.
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I believe this is the end date based on the Mayan Model as put forth by Dr. Calleman, and as presented by Ian Xel Lungold. BOWMAN has a few threads on this.
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what's 0ct 28 2011 all about then, If I want the truth ill have to research myself.


I believe this is the end date based on the Mayan Model as put forth by Dr. Calleman, and as presented by Ian Xel Lungold. BOWMAN has a few threads on this.
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This is the main reason why Calleman came up with the Oct. 28th, 2011 date, was because it fell on 13 Ahau.

Calleman stresses that 13 Ahau is so important which is why 4 Ahau on Dec. 21st, 2012 can't be the end date:

"Another equally compelling reason why December 21, 2012 cannot be the true date of completion of creation is that this day is 4 Ahau in the tzolkin count. Since the Long Count consists of exactly 7200 tzolkin rounds then the true end of creation must fall on a day that is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count so that the tzolkin rounds even out. If we want to find out what is the real date of ending of the creation cycles we must therefore look for a day around the year 2012, which is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count. The inscriptions in Palenque, written about a thousand years after the Long Count was devised in Izapa, seem to indicate that the date of relevance is October 28, 2011, which in fact is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count."

[link to www.calleman.com]


Well.......Dec. 16th, 2013 is also 13 Ahau
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Well being 3 years away from Dec. 21st, 2012 as of today, I have realized the calendar doesn't end on 12/21/12, but in 2013 instead. I have proof as well!
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You mean 2011 or 2014. I have better proof.
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12/21/2009 10:50 PM
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Here is the calendar conversion tool.

[link to www.diagnosis2012.co.uk]
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Oh come on. We all know how the UK likes to make up numbers.
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Well being 3 years away from Dec. 21st, 2012 as of today, I have realized the calendar doesn't end on 12/21/12, but in 2013 instead. I have proof as well!



You mean 2011 or 2014. I have better proof.
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Use the calendar conversion tool and show me the proof. Doubt you have better, but please share. :)
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Well being 3 years away from Dec. 21st, 2012 as of today, I have realized the calendar doesn't end on 12/21/12, but in 2013 instead. I have proof as well!



You mean 2011 or 2014. I have better proof.


Use the calendar conversion tool and show me the proof. Doubt you have better, but please share. :)
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Well, much like global warming, we have to subtract from the number given to get an true reading.
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its actually 2014....my AlenI pet told me.
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Actually, whatever your calendars indicate, whatever the Mayans do or don't do, etc., the date IS 12/21/2012.

The date is not because anybody got it wrong (or got it right)--the date is because of Divine Intervention.

The Divine One is not trying to hide the date because the plan is to let humanity know just how long they have to prepare, and many will use their freewill to not prepare.

You will find that as we get closer, more and more information on what really will be happening will be coming our, from sources on AND off world...
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This is the main reason why Calleman came up with the Oct. 28th, 2011 date, was because it fell on 13 Ahau.

Calleman stresses that 13 Ahau is so important which is why 4 Ahau on Dec. 21st, 2012 can't be the end date:

"Another equally compelling reason why December 21, 2012 cannot be the true date of completion of creation is that this day is 4 Ahau in the tzolkin count. Since the Long Count consists of exactly 7200 tzolkin rounds then the true end of creation must fall on a day that is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count so that the tzolkin rounds even out. If we want to find out what is the real date of ending of the creation cycles we must therefore look for a day around the year 2012, which is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count. The inscriptions in Palenque, written about a thousand years after the Long Count was devised in Izapa, seem to indicate that the date of relevance is October 28, 2011, which in fact is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count."

[link to www.calleman.com]


Well.......Dec. 16th, 2013 is also 13 Ahau
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This is very interesting- apparently some of his peers/ colleagues disagreed- and heatedly- with the October date. Makes sense based on what you've described here. Thank you.
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No, it is definitely 2012.
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Well! That's Just Great OP.
A whole extra year ....
Dandy.
suicide
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