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New Law Essentially Outlaw Evangelical Christianity And Roman Catholicism In The U.K.?

 
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The Equality Bill: Will A New Law Essentially Outlaw Evangelical Christianity And Roman Catholicism In The U.K.?
Written by Admin Posted December 21, 2009 at 8:39 pm

Did that headline get your attention? It should. A new law is dangerously close to becoming law in the U.K. that would essentially outlaw evangelical Christianity and Roman Catholicism. Not that "The Equality Bill" specifically designates those faiths as illegal in the legislation itself. Rather, the bill outlaws specific beliefs and practices that are fundamental to both evangelical Christianity and Roman Catholicism. In fact, experts are saying that "The Equality Bill" would create a volcanic eruption of litigation in U.K. courts and would ultimately force those who wish to continue to practice anything that even looks like traditional Christianity to go underground.

So just what is the Equality Bill?

The Equality Bill allegedly aims to consolidate all existing anti-discrimination laws into a single legal framework. However, it actually goes much farther than any "anti-discrimination" laws in the U.K. have ever gone before.

On the surface, this legislation seems like a good idea. After all, who wants to discriminate against old people or people of other races? You can read a summary of this legislation put out by backers of the bill right here. It actually contains a few good proposals.

But it is also a vicious attack on traditional Christianity.

The Telegraph quotes a top level official from the "Ministry for Equality" as saying the following when he was asked whether the Equality Bill would lead to legal action between churches and atheists....

"Both need to be lining up [their lawyers]," he said. "The secularists should have the right to challenge the church."

Secularists should have the right to challenge the beliefs and practices of the church?

What in the world?

So exactly what would the Equality Bill mean for churches in the U.K.?

Evangelical Christians and Roman Catholics would be wide open not only to lawsuits but also to unlimited government fines and even criminal prosecution if....

*They are found to discriminate against homosexuals or transsexuals in any area of employment - including the hiring of pastors and priests.

*They are found to discriminate against homosexuals or transsexuals in any preaching or teaching.

*They are found to discriminate against hiring married men or women as priests as the Roman Catholics have done for centuries.

*They are found to insist that pastors or priests remain celibate (as in the case of Catholics) or only have sex within marriage (as in the case of evangelicals).

*They are found trying to prevent any of their clergy from entering into same-sex civil partnerships.

*They are found to be trying to prevent their pastors or priests from having sex change operations, living openly promiscuous lifestyles or engaging in any other form of sexual expression.

So essentially, if the Equality Bill is fully implemented, no religious organization is the U.K. will be able to preach or teach against sexual immorality, will be able to discriminate against the sexually immoral when hiring clergy or will be able to take a formal moral stand against sexually immorality in any way whatsoever.

Some analysts are even claiming that if the Equality Bill is adopted, all hiring for church positions that do not spend at least 51 percent of their time leading worship and preaching would be subject to regulations that would ban discrimination against those from other religions. So, for example, a Baptist church would be forced to consider an Islamic candidate for a position that ministers to the youth but that also performs other non-teaching functions much of the time as well.

Basically the Equality Bill would be a total nightmare for both evangelical Christians and Roman Catholics in the U.K. The fact that the law is written in such vague terms would open up the floodgates for all kinds of endless litigation. If the Equality Bill becomes law, free speech and free expression in churches in the U.K. would be deeply chilled as church leaders struggle with the never ending threat of lawsuits, fines and criminal prosecution.

The days when churches in the U.K. could openly preach against sexual sin would be over.

The days when churches in the U.K. could openly have any say over the sexual behavior of their clergy would be over.

The days when churches in the U.K. could openly discuss what the Bible says about "right" and "wrong" would be over.

Thus this would essentially mean that end of legal evangelical Christianity and legal Roman Catholicism in the U.K.

That sounds quite dramatic, but that is the truth of the matter.

In fact, Baroness O'Cathain, a Tory lawmaker and an evangelical Christian, said last week that the Equality Bill is the "single most damaging Bill to come before the House in my 18 years as a Member".

Are you starting to get the idea?

We are living in the last days, and the truth is that Christian persecution is exploding all over the world. Christians in western nations have always thought that it was something that happened "over there", but now Christian persecution is moving forward with blinding speed in places such as the U.K.

Ultimately, there will be no escaping persecution. If you plan to be a Christian in the last days you will face persecution as long as you are on this earth.

You better get ready for it.

If you are a Christian and you are not already being persecuted, you will be soon.
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Presumably it will not stop our middle eastern cousins from getting down on their knees five times a day?
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That right it is a straight forward attack on Christians. Welcome all to the last days.
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You are quite right, but why did you ignore Muslims and Hindus, among others?
It seems that they should worry at least as much as the Christians on the topics you quote.
Or are you implying that they will simply ignore the rules, and nothing will happen to them, while the same rules will strictly be enforced on Christians?
In the Uk government really so stupid?
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12/22/2009 01:03 PM
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You are quite right, but why did you ignore Muslims and Hindus, among others?
It seems that they should worry at least as much as the Christians on the topics you quote.
Or are you implying that they will simply ignore the rules, and nothing will happen to them, while the same rules will strictly be enforced on Christians?
In the Uk government really so stupid?
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In the Uk government really so stupid?....Yep!

hf peace
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12/22/2009 05:32 PM
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The artical is stating the facts not me and as you can read its a direct attack on christians and not a glimmer at islam
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You are quite right, but why did you ignore Muslims and Hindus, among others?
It seems that they should worry at least as much as the Christians on the topics you quote.
Or are you implying that they will simply ignore the rules, and nothing will happen to them, while the same rules will strictly be enforced on Christians?
In the Uk government really so stupid?

In the Uk government really so stupid?....Yep!

hf peace
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As always with UK law, the question is of spirit(of the law), and intent(of application). The spirit is usually one of egalitarian application, the intent is to specifically target certain groups or sectors of society, so, as far as preachers of hate or discrimination in any form, as long as you understand it, i.e. in spoken or written english language, then it is applicable.

Make of that what you will..
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12/23/2009 03:06 AM
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The artical is stating the facts not me and as you can read its a direct attack on christians and not a glimmer at islam
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What, because only Christians are raging homophobes? The law bans discrimination against gays when recruiting employees; it says nothing whatever about Christianity _or_ Islam. If your organisation has homophobic hiring policies, then it will have to change, regardless of which god you think endorses your hate.
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12/23/2009 05:16 AM
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repeat after me:

"Parliment shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Oh, well.. that would mean the US Colonies have contaminated British Empire Law, now wouldn't it.
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12/23/2009 05:35 AM
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The Vatican's inquisition office bans Catholicism all the time. They did it in France 1790, and in Russia 1917.

How it works is this.. The Jesuits and the other military knights rule by secret society (church state?).

Why?

Because these Catholics become liberal or unfriendly to Rome and the pope.

The Jesuits also attacked Mexico 1926 with revolution, and Ireland 1845 with famine.

What to expect soon in Europe? Look around.. Islam. Imported by Rome for this end. When it's not communism it's Islam.

Jesuit,,,Jesuit,,,Jesuits!!
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12/23/2009 09:48 AM
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This law is so open ended. the courts could not cope. One e.g. A conservative law firm advertising for someone to join their Firm. From resumes, two outstanding applicants are invited for interviews. One comes as expected, perfectly groomed etc. the other is covered with tats has studs everywhere, you get the picture. As it turns out the second guys is the better suited to the requirement of the Firm. The Law Firm hires the conservative one.
The second applicant has a perfect case of discrimination to fight in a court of law.

I am sure you get mt drift. As I said it is so open ended.
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12/23/2009 09:55 AM
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Everyone preaches daily by their actions. If you are a man and women happy family you preach to everyone by your example and laws can't prevent that.


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last days?
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