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Where Did The Word "Nazi" Come From?

 
AshkeNAZI
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Where Did The Word "Nazi" Come From?
I am trying to find out where the word "Nazi" originated from. So far, I am aware that the German Jewish community and also the european Jewish community in general were referred too as ashkenazi jews. Is there any link between the two words?
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Isn't it National-Socialism bastardised.
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Ashkenazi (OP)
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12/28/2009 05:56 AM
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I looked into that, but from what I can gather no one seems to know that for certain. In fact, there is also information to suggest that it was a term used to slander those who opposed national socialism in Germany (the exact opposite). That is why I started looking into older uses of the word (or similar uses).
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yep national socialism the fascism or the fasi is a symbol of being a subject of the pope. The swastika is a religious symbol often carried by the pope himself.

Ow did u know Hitler was a jesuit ?
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Here, they say that it is a shortening of the word, National:

[link to www.jewishworldreview.com]

If that is so, then where does the word ashkenazi (often used in medieval rabbinic literature) come from?

Accordingly to this link:
[link to www.somethingjewish.co.uk]

the word 'ashkenaz' means German in Yiddish, though the same word is used in the Book of Genesis as someone's name. So the writer of Genesis named one of the people the equivalent of naming them "German"? I don't think so...
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NAZI is for NAtional ZIonist I believe, I feel it´s been turned around by the victors (allies) in history. Nearly everyone here in Germany thinks NAZI stands for National Socialist, they screwed history well.

NASO is for NAtional SOcialist (a follower of the "nationale deutsche arbeiterpartei" NSDAP)

So if my assumption is right, a NAZI has to be a JEW of ZIONIST belief.

Greetings from Berlin, Germany.
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Ow did u know Hitler was a jesuit ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751162

If he was, then he shouldn't have been reading copies of Ostara Magazine now should he have? He also shouldn't have allowed some catholic bishops to be persecuted.

Aren't Jesuits supposed to attend mass, because it is an established FACT that Hitler stopped attending mass for some time before his death?
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I am trying to find out where the word "Nazi" originated from. So far, I am aware that the German Jewish community and also the european Jewish community in general were referred too as ashkenazi jews. Is there any link between the two words?
 Quoting: AshkeNAZI 608601

look up www.sherryshriner.com
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12/28/2009 06:26 AM
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Double clicked on one of the "Nazi" words you typed out, OP - took all of 2 seconds. (Dictionary Tooltip addon for Firefox)

Result:

[German, short for Nationalsozialistische deutsche Arbeiter-Partei, National Socialist German Workers' Party.]
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More info..

Na·zi (näts, nt-)
n. pl. Na·zis
1. A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler.
2. often nazi An adherent or advocate of policies characteristic of Nazism; a fascist.
adj.
Of, relating to, controlled by, or typical of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Nazi [ˈnɑːtsɪ]
n pl Nazis
1. (Historical Terms) a member of the fascist National Socialist German Workers' Party, which was founded in 1919 and seized political control in Germany in 1933 under the Austrian-born German dictator Adolf Hitler (1889-1945)
2. Derogatory anyone who thinks or acts like a Nazi, esp showing racism, brutality, etc.
adj
(Historical Terms) of, characteristic of, or relating to the Nazis
[from German, phonetic spelling of the first two syllables of Nationalsozialist National Socialist]
Nazism [ˈnɑːtˌsɪzəm], Naziism [ˈnɑːtsɪˌɪzəm] n
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NAZI is for NAtional ZIonist I believe, I feel it´s been turned around by the victors (allies) in history. Nearly everyone here in Germany thinks NAZI stands for National Socialist, they screwed history well.

NASO is for NAtional SOcialist (a follower of the "nationale deutsche arbeiterpartei" NSDAP)

So if my assumption is right, a NAZI has to be a JEW of ZIONIST belief.

Greetings from Berlin, Germany.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 851153

If this were true (and it is an intriguing thought), then one could easily state that a National Zionist would push for a restoration of a Jewish Nation-State, such as what was pushed for in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 (a full 20 years prior to the Holocaust) in a formal statement by the British government in a written letter to (tada) Walter Rothschild (a leader of the British Jewish Community) as is documented in historical record (you can find it at the British Library). Interestingly, the Rothschilds have quite the impressive bit of ties with the German Jewish community.
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Double clicked on one of the "Nazi" words you typed out, OP - took all of 2 seconds. (Dictionary Tooltip addon for Firefox)

Result:

[German, short for Nationalsozialistische deutsche Arbeiter-Partei, National Socialist German Workers' Party.]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 851182

The information you presented is not definitive and frankly it is no longer the "accepted" origin of the term. The "accepted" origin is that it is short for the word "National" (leaving the socialist part out). Though even this is not definitive.
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12/28/2009 06:36 AM
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Hollywood Jews invented the term Nazi (National Zionist) after WWII as another inside joke on the goy. They know that WWII was a Jewish operation to establish a Jewish majority in Israel and to destroy Europe.
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Nazi
1930, from Ger. Nazi, abbreviation of Ger. pronunciation of Nationalsozialist (based on earlier Ger. sozi, popular abbreviaton of "socialist"), from Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei "National Socialist German Workers' Party," led by Hitler from 1920. The 24th edition of Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache (2002) says the word Nazi was favored in southern Germany (supposedly from c.1924) among opponents of National Socialism because the nickname Nazi (from the masc. proper name Ignatz, Ger. form of Ignatius) was used colloquially to mean "a foolish person, clumsy or awkward person." Ignatz was a popular name in Catholic Austria, and according to one source in WWI Nazi was a generic name in the German Empire for the soldiers of Austria-Hungary. An older use of Nazi for national-sozial is attested in Ger. from 1903, but EWdS does not think it contributed to the word as applied to Hitler and his followers. The NSDAP for a time attempted to adopt the Nazi designation as what the Germans call a "despite-word," but they gave this up, and the NSDAP is said to have generally avoided the term. Before 1930, party members had been called in Eng. National Socialists, which dates from 1923. The use of Nazi Germany, Nazi regime, etc., was popularized by German exiles abroad. From them, it spread into other languages, and eventually brought back to Germany, after the war. In the USSR, the terms national socialist and Nazi were said to have been forbidden after 1932, presumably to avoid any taint to the good word socialist. Soviet literature refers to fascists.

(dictionary.com)
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12/28/2009 06:40 AM
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Its shortened from Nationalsozialismus
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12/28/2009 06:41 AM
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in my opinion you are on the right track. history books here in germany are full of lies of WW1+2.
no sane man would abbreviate NationalSozialist with NAZI, I assure you we sane (back then) germans used NASO for it.

Cheers.

imho it was needed to set the stage to motivate jew populace around europe to emigrate to soon craeted isreal ?
I must admit I don´t know the exact dates all this happened.
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Hollywood Jews invented the term Nazi (National Zionist) after WWII as another inside joke on the goy. They know that WWII was a Jewish operation to establish a Jewish majority in Israel and to destroy Europe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 844608

it seems we agree on what has happened to europe (and it´s pretty logical also) :D they could not indoctrinate us :D

shakehands ^^
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It was a term used by English speakers to abbreviate Nationalsozialistische

Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.

From the first 2 syllables of the German pronunciation of

Nationalsozialistische:

Na-tsee-oh-nael = Na + tsee = Nazi.

Nothing more complex than that, just as using the term "commie" for communist

or "bolshi" for bolshevik.
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NAtional SocialiZim
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in my opinion you are on the right track. history books here in germany are full of lies of WW1+2.
no sane man would abbreviate NationalSozialist with NAZI, I assure you we sane (back then) germans used NASO for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 851153

As a german-american I assure you that I do not believe the supposed abbreviation makes much sense.

And my school text books here in America never mentioned that there was an on-going attempt to establish a Jewish State prior to the Second World War. In fact, they implied that it was merely the result of the Holocaust. That made me pretty dang interested when I discovered the Balfour Declaration made some 20 years prior to WW2.

Well, that and the laughable labeling of a jewish man named Benjamin H. Freedman (how can you be against yourself?).
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in my opinion you are on the right track. history books here in germany are full of lies of WW1+2.
no sane man would abbreviate NationalSozialist with NAZI, I assure you we sane (back then) germans used NASO for it.

As a german-american I assure you that I do not believe the supposed abbreviation makes much sense.

And my school text books here in America never mentioned that there was an on-going attempt to establish a Jewish State prior to the Second World War. In fact, they implied that it was merely the result of the Holocaust. That made me pretty dang interested when I discovered the Balfour Declaration made some 20 years prior to WW2.

Well, that and the laughable labeling of a jewish man named Benjamin H. Freedman (how can you be against yourself?).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 608601


The victors of war always write the history books and can tell any bullshit they want.

A lot of lies and deceit was vomited to the public after the fall of Germay.
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Is your Google search non-operational?


It was a nickname given to the political party Hitler led. It was short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (or National Socialist German Worker's Party).

Wow...........lemme go wipe the sweat off from my brow now!
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Iwonder why Talking about Hitler is so popular these days. Maybe all are NEO NAZI MORONS!
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Teutonic Knights, Norse tradition and sun worship.


Nothing Jew about it.
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Iwonder why Talking about Hitler is so popular these days. Maybe all are NEO NAZI MORONS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 661238


Love him or hate him, he was a remarkable man.
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Is your Google search non-operational?
 Quoting: SunDawnn

Yes, as a matter of fact it is, kinda like the scroll button on your mouse must be as you re-posted what had been posted a thousand times prior.

BTW, that is no longer the "accepted" origin of the word (because I already did the simple research on Google and figured that much out, as you might have noticed if you had read the thread). If it was that simple I would not be here asking for further information.
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Iwonder why Talking about Hitler is so popular these days. Maybe all are NEO NAZI MORONS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 661238

Attempting to educate yourself about history makes one a neo-nazi moron? WOW! You must be a Republican.
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here

[link to lmgtfy.com]
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Iwonder why Talking about Hitler is so popular these days. Maybe all are NEO NAZI MORONS!

Attempting to educate yourself about history makes one a neo-nazi moron? WOW! You must be a Republican.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 608601


Yeah, apparently if you are even vaguely interested in Nazi Germany, which is really interesting by the way, you are a crazed fascist.
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Yeah, apparently if you are even vaguely interested in Nazi Germany, which is really interesting by the way, you are a crazed fascist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 851188

I don't understand why these hateful sheep that love to throw labels around (such as Neo Nazi, or whatever) as soon as someone does some historical research ON THEIR OWN are so quick to squash FREE THOUGHT. You'd think if someone really cared about that portion of history not being repeated they would encourage free thought, historical research, and discussion on all aspects of that point in history in order to better educate the people of this planet about war, past ideologies, and important historical events.