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Space head: Russia may send spacecraft to asteroid

MOSCOW – Russia's space chief said Wednesday his agency will consider sending a spacecraft to a large asteroid to knock it off its path and prevent a possible collision with Earth.

Anatoly Perminov said the space agency will hold a meeting soon to assess a mission to Apophis, telling Golos Rossii radio that it would invite NASA, the European Space Agency, the Chinese space agency and others to join the project once it is finalized.

When the 270-meter (885-foot) asteroid was first discovered in 2004, astronomers estimated the chances of it smashing into Earth in its first flyby in 2029 were as high as 1-in-37.

Further studies ruled out the possibility of an impact in 2029, when the asteroid is expected to come no closer than 18,300 miles (29,450 kilometers) above Earth's surface, but they indicated a small possibility of a hit on subsequent encounters.

In October, NASA lowered the odds that Apophis could hit Earth in 2036 from a 1-in-45,000 as earlier thought to a 1-in-250,000 chance after researchers recalculated the asteroid's path. It said another close encounter in 2068 will involve a 1-in-330,000 chance of impact.

Scientists have long theorized about asteroid deflection strategies. Some have proposed sending a probe to circle around a dangerous asteroid to gradually change its trajectory. Others suggested sending a spacecraft to collide with the asteroid and alter its momentum, or using nuclear weapons to hit it.

Without mentioning NASA findings, Perminov said that he heard from a scientist that Apophis is getting closer and may hit the planet. "I don't remember exactly, but it seems to me it could hit the Earth by 2032," Perminov said.

He wouldn't disclose any details of the project, saying they still need to be worked out. But he said the mission wouldn't require any nuclear explosions.

Hollywood action films "Deep Impact" and "Armageddon," have featured space missions scrambling to avoid catastrophic collisions. In both movies space crews use nuclear bombs in an attempt to prevent collisions.

"Calculations show that it's possible to create a special purpose spacecraft within the time we have, which would help avoid the collision without destroying it (the asteroid) and without detonating any nuclear charges," Perminov said. "The threat of collision can be averted."

"People's lives are at stake. We should pay several hundred million dollars and build a system that would allow to prevent a collision, rather than sit and wait for it to happen and kill hundreds of thousands of people," he added.

Boris Shustov, the director of the Institute of Astronomy under the Russian Academy of Sciences, hailed Perminov's statement as a signal that officials had come to recognize the danger posed by asteroids.

"Apophis is just a symbolic example, there are many other dangerous objects we know little about," he said, according to RIA Novosti news agency.
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It's the 2nd pass they are worried about, I was reading about it 2 or 3 months ago, if it goes thru the "keyhole" which is a spot above the earth's orbit during the first pass, then the next time around, and this is from JPL, it will impact about 500 miles off the California coast and produce a tidal wave 1800ft high and it will travel 1200 miles inland and of course travel around the globe. It is on Youtube and very easy to research, and quite alarming!
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It's the 2nd pass they are worried about, I was reading about it 2 or 3 months ago, if it goes thru the "keyhole" which is a spot above the earth's orbit during the first pass, then the next time around, and this is from JPL, it will impact about 500 miles off the California coast and produce a tidal wave 1800ft high and it will travel 1200 miles inland and of course travel around the globe. It is on Youtube and very easy to research, and quite alarming!
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Damn....that will be one hell of a halfpipe.
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It's the 2nd pass they are worried about, I was reading about it 2 or 3 months ago, if it goes thru the "keyhole" which is a spot above the earth's orbit during the first pass, then the next time around, and this is from JPL, it will impact about 500 miles off the California coast and produce a tidal wave 1800ft high and it will travel 1200 miles inland and of course travel around the globe. It is on Youtube and very easy to research, and quite alarming!


Damn....that will be one hell of a halfpipe.
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LOL! Yeah man! peace
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Who the hell names these things; "Apophis"

Apophis (Egyptian Apep) was the great adversary of the sun god, Re. and was the very embodiment of the powers of dissolution, darkness and non-being. Hence, he was a sort of void or "black hole" forcing those he swallowed into that non-existence which the Egyptians feared so greatly. Being completely outside of the natural world, he was believed to require no nourishment other than to "breathe" his own shouts. He was a huge serpent who was thought to have existed at the beginning of time in the waters of primeval chaos prior to creation and his power was so great that it was thought that he would continue to exist in an endlessly malevolent cycle of attack, defeat and resurgent attack. He is thus known by many epithets, ranging from evil lizard, opponent and enemy to world encircler and serpent of rebirth. During the Roman period, he was interpreted as "he who was spat out" and linked to the saliva of the goddess Nei
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I go to a site called Spaceweather.com everyday to watch the sun and other things, and about six months ago there was a report that the U.S. Airforce was stopping the feeds from their satellite which tracks these large rocks in space.

And the information on this rock is now becoming a bit more difficult to access......things that make you go hmmmmm?
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Who the hell names these things; "Apophis"

Apophis (Egyptian Apep) was the great adversary of the sun god, Re. and was the very embodiment of the powers of dissolution, darkness and non-being. Hence, he was a sort of void or "black hole" forcing those he swallowed into that non-existence which the Egyptians feared so greatly. Being completely outside of the natural world, he was believed to require no nourishment other than to "breathe" his own shouts. He was a huge serpent who was thought to have existed at the beginning of time in the waters of primeval chaos prior to creation and his power was so great that it was thought that he would continue to exist in an endlessly malevolent cycle of attack, defeat and resurgent attack. He is thus known by many epithets, ranging from evil lizard, opponent and enemy to world encircler and serpent of rebirth. During the Roman period, he was interpreted as "he who was spat out" and linked to the saliva of the goddess Nei
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Nasa maybe?
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I go to a site called Spaceweather.com everyday to watch the sun and other things, and about six months ago there was a report that the U.S. Airforce was stopping the feeds from their satellite which tracks these large rocks in space.
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Wrong. The satellite information that was cut off was in no way useful to track large rocks in space, rather it tracked fireballs from small objects that were caught impacting the atmosphere and burning up. The satellites were pointed at earth, not out at space. Information on Apophis is just as easily available now as it was then.

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my wife ain't gonna be too happy, theres 3 boogie boards out in the shed and four of us!!!
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Apophis...
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my wife ain't gonna be too happy, theres 3 boogie boards out in the shed and four of us!!!
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muaha
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Billiards in space.
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It's the 2nd pass they are worried about, I was reading about it 2 or 3 months ago, if it goes thru the "keyhole" which is a spot above the earth's orbit during the first pass, then the next time around, and this is from JPL, it will impact about 500 miles off the California coast and produce a tidal wave 1800ft high and it will travel 1200 miles inland and of course travel around the globe. It is on Youtube and very easy to research, and quite alarming!


Damn....that will be one hell of a halfpipe.
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problem with that theory is the surface tension of the water vs. the shear weight of the water will probably top out at less than 1,000 feet, not that it helps much...
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besides we like big waves in cali

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stupid russians
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So we would be safer from Texas on further east? Seeing how I live 1 mile from the ocean in California, I'm totally screwed, but I have some time to relo stat! ;) Although, if I'm correct, an impact of that magnitude would wipe out the entire globe anyhow, so if one resides on the coast, they just have the best seats in the house to watch this doomtastic event! If there is no chance of survival, then I will definitely have my popcorn in hand.

On a bright note, Happy New Year GLP'ers.
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Zeshua right again. At TTI she predicted this would be dealt with successfully.
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it does not seem to be imminent, they are talking decades down the road aren't they?
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good change it from a rock into a shotgun blast

maybe they should consider changing the drag of the object so it changes course. like painting it white and attaching long cables to it so it increases it's drag through the solar wind

then it would stay in one piece

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if you want to guarantee at least some of the pieces will hit earth, i recommend blowing it up
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and you know they are lying abut the impact date, right?
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Don't have to blow it up, just bump it a bit into a different trajectory as to make it go into the sun.

About time Russia finally steps up and does something good for the rest of the world.

About time they pay for it as well.
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Don't worry America will probably send a spacecraft to bounce it back on course.
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besides we like big waves in cali

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stupid russians
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lol
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and you know they are lying abut the impact date, right?
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they'd BETTER not be!
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It's the 2nd pass they are worried about, I was reading about it 2 or 3 months ago, if it goes thru the "keyhole" which is a spot above the earth's orbit during the first pass, then the next time around, and this is from JPL, it will impact about 500 miles off the California coast and produce a tidal wave 1800ft high and it will travel 1200 miles inland and of course travel around the globe. It is on Youtube and very easy to research, and quite alarming!
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this 'keyhole' thing is very suspicious to me too.
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is this one reason for the seed vault?
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If anyone has a link to a decent full documentary on Apophis (history channel etc) that would be great.
If you tolerate this your children will be next.
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It's the 2nd pass they are worried about, I was reading about it 2 or 3 months ago, if it goes thru the "keyhole" which is a spot above the earth's orbit during the first pass, then the next time around, and this is from JPL, it will impact about 500 miles off the California coast and produce a tidal wave 1800ft high and it will travel 1200 miles inland and of course travel around the globe. It is on Youtube and very easy to research, and quite alarming!
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Then I guess living at 7400 ft aint such a bad thing after all.
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Perhaps this was the purpose of the moon bombing? practice ya know?
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Apophis...
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Hitler - Hister, Apophis - Apocalypse
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Russia does realize that would be a 'defensive' misile, right?

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