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What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none.

 
The Professor
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What was the purpose of the Biblical Flood? It appears there was none.
The story of the Biblical Flood brings to mind one of the most confusing issues in the Bible, one that few Christians will talk about. I haven't read anything about it on GLP, so here it is.

This is the reason the Old Testament God gave for destroying every man, woman and child except for Noah and his family:

“And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them” (Genesis 6:5-7, KJV, highlights my own).

And this is the reason the Old Testament God promised never to destroy mankind again.

“And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done” (Genesis 8:21, KJV, highlights my own).

So the omniscient God destroyed most of mankind because they were inherently sinful, and he promised never to do it again because....they were inherently sinful! As they so eloquently say on the GLP forum: WTF??

Here is what bothers me: If the reason for destroying humanity and the reason for promising never to do it again are the same, what was the purpose of killing so many people? According to God Himself, He knew mankind would continue to be just as evil (and they have), so not one damn thing had changed. The Flood thus appears to be a senseless act of unparalleled cruelty.

So what was the purpose of the Biblical Flood. It appears there was none.
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because he can do what he wants to-no explanation needed for tiny evil human
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it was an indian story.

do your research.

the bible is a collection of stories and myths from the region.

a nice starting book for pre schoolers.
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It was the result of climate change in Canada.
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The purpose of the Flood was to destroy the families of freaks (nephilim) the materialized angels had fathered and force the angels back into the spirit realm, where Jehovah then put the clamps on them to prevent them from taking on flesh in the future. [link to www.biblegateway.com]



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it was an indian story.

do your research.

the bible is a collection of stories and myths from the region.

a nice starting book for pre schoolers.
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I have probably done more research than you because I am aware of hundreds of similar stories about the Flood.

However, I was obviously limiting my question to the Christian belief in the Biblical Flood.

My purpose of this thread (and there will be more) is to get Christians to think, really think and question, the book they claim to be the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God.

But thank you for your comments.
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because he can do what he wants to-no explanation needed for tiny evil human
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Actually, a good answer since an omniscient and omnipotent being need not answer to any mortal, especially me.

However, I was addressing the Old Testament account which was written by mortals, and I questioned whether that account give a legitimate reason for the Flood. I did not think it did, but that is only my own personal opinion.

Thanks you for your response.
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It was a coverstory for poleshift & Planet X. Had to have something that they could understand. Not just a natural event. They needed a reason. Not just another day on a rock floating through space with other rocks. No the people are Bad!
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The Glaciers melted causing drastic flooding worldwide like the Black Sea being created in a matter of days.
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the reason we were created to start with was so that god could reproduce himself. He wanted children. Not much different than when humans want children. When you have children you want them to be good. nobody wants a child that rapes and murders and is out of control. God has the power to scratch out a bad batch and start again.
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It was God's way of erasing the board and starting over.
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In my view Genesis is an esoteric allegory not easily understood and not a literal description of historical events. In Rev 17:15 the waters are described as:

"The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues."

Waters represent the unconscious chaos, the undifferentiated unity, from which life emerges. Revelation describes humanity as being in an unconscious state. Though we may think we are conscious we are as oblivious to what is really going on and what we are a part of as the unconscious dead. That is why Jesus said, "Let the dead bury their dead." Humanity has not yet come to full consciousness, but is a work in progress. The waters have not yet dried from the surface of the earth. The Flood is here now. So is the Babel Tower. It stands erect on the earth today in the minds of humanity.

As to the specific question of why the two identical statements by the supposed deity before and after the Flood... I don't know..... hadn't noticed that before and therefore haven't thought about it. Good observation. I've found it helpful to look at the meaning of individual Hebrew words when trying to unravel the story. I'll take a look at that.
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because he can do what he wants to-no explanation needed for tiny evil human
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To kill the remaining giants (those half-human critters that got made when the fallen ones mated with human females - nephilim).
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The purpose of the Flood was to destroy the families of freaks (nephilim) the materialized angels had fathered and force the angels back into the spirit realm, where Jehovah then put the clamps on them to prevent them from taking on flesh in the future.
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BINGO! Read the lost book of Enoch
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did you know there is enough water in the mantle to raise the water level to 4 miles over mount everest should it ALL come out, which it won't I know, but interesting, eh?

sleep tight!

lol
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Honestly Professor, I've had problems with that story as well, and have yet to come up with a good answer.

Perhaps it was only to show mankind who was in charge. Seems a bit of overkill, though, doesn't it?
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Not biblical but a distorted memory of the climatic mess at the end of the last ice age
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Nancy knows, but the Zetas told her not to tell you.
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I think that none of the events told of in the Old Testament make alot sense, unless you allow yourself to accept that there is a spiritual world, who's events deeply affect our own.

For instance, the Tower of Babel story makes no sense, if you don't look deeper. Do you really believe God would be threatened by the height of a building? Obviously there was more to this building than meets the eye of the casual observer.
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you know the bible doesnt contain the only version of the great flood. have you read any of the other accounts of it?if your curious enough, do some research, learn all the different sides of the story then choose for yourself.
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The simple answer is that the Earth was full of corruption and ungodliness (sin). It was also being taken over by what the Bible referred to as the nephilim. Of course, this can be taken a variety of ways, but the most common answer is that they are angel-human hybrids, who were killing all the humans. Thus, Noah (being of pure seed) meaning he was essentially the last human.

So God destroyed the world by water to preserve humanity. Of course, water is a cleansing agent. Meaning you can wash your clothes, but it won't get all the dirt out. Or, you can wash the dirt off a bar of gold, but it won't get any of the impurities out of the gold.

So when God said he would later destroy the Earth by fire, it means he will purify the Earth. (Fire is a method of purification). The only way to purify a bar of gold is by throwing it into the fire and separate the metals from one another. Likewise, he will separate all the sin and ungodliness from the Earth by means of fire and sulfur (another purifying agent).
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Honestly Professor, I've had problems with that story as well, and have yet to come up with a good answer.

Perhaps it was only to show mankind who was in charge. Seems a bit of overkill, though, doesn't it?
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I think so, but then who am I to tell.
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My purpose of this thread (and there will be more) is to get Christians to think, really think and question, the book they claim to be the complete, inspired and inerrant word of God.

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Good luck with that!
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I have probably done more research than you because I am aware of hundreds of similar stories about the Flood.

Who wrote the stories if everyone died?

Noa couldnt have written them all..
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Honestly Professor, I've had problems with that story as well, and have yet to come up with a good answer.

Perhaps it was only to show mankind who was in charge. Seems a bit of overkill, though, doesn't it?


I think so, but then who am I to tell.
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The idea that Noah was perfect in his generations is taken to mean he was the only man whose bloodline had not been polluted by the mating of the Teraphim and humans.

Like someone else said, the answers lay with Enoch.
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“And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done” (Genesis 8:21, KJV, highlights my own).



Yes, but the evil is restrained in God's people.

God wiped out pagan's world enslavement.

If you are calling God unjust you are exacly the pagan God wiped out. You only support global enslavement and all the problems of the world by not walking with God. You walk with God or you walk with the wicked.
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Honestly Professor, I've had problems with that story as well, and have yet to come up with a good answer.

Perhaps it was only to show mankind who was in charge. Seems a bit of overkill, though, doesn't it?


I think so, but then who am I to tell.


The idea that Noah was perfect in his generations is taken to mean he was the only man whose bloodline had not been polluted by the mating of the Teraphim and humans.

Like someone else said, the answers lay with Enoch.
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Could have been. That's one theory. Remember that in the garden, God told the serpent the seed of Eve would crush his seed. Who was this seed?
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Could have been. That's one theory. Remember that in the garden, God told the serpent the seed of Eve would crush his seed. Who was this seed?
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I'd go with a multifaceted meaning, but point taken.
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“And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done” (Genesis 8:21, KJV, highlights my own).



Yes, but the evil is restrained in God's people.

God wiped out pagan's world enslavement.

If you are calling God unjust you are exacly the pagan God wiped out. You only support global enslavement and all the problems of the world by not walking with God. You walk with God or you walk with the wicked.
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Remember that God's plan involved the Messiah. The seed of Eve that would crush the serpent. Noah was perfect in his generations. After the flood, after the reset, this perfect generation separated into 3 lines, one of which would bring Messiah.
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According to all the ancient texts Earth was once a moon of Saturn, and then we weren't, then Earth at one time had three moons, then none, and now only the one!!

Einstein is famous for his quote of, "God doesn't play dice with the Universe." Maybe not dice, but it seems he likes bowling!!

From all the erratic planets changing of their orbits and Earth being the pin for other planatary bowling balls, one must ask, "who the hell is in charge"?

Velikovsky in his works proved that it looks like no one is in charge of squat, and this brings to mind the term of "Shit Happens!!"

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hummbird If you would like to know more about Noah's Flood from a biblical point of view. IT'S COMING!...

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Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
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