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With the health-care battle still unfinished, the Obama administration has been laying plans to take up an issue that could prove even more divisive — a major overhaul of the nation's immigration system.

By Peter Nicholas and Tom Hamburger

Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON — With the health-care battle still unfinished, the Obama administration has been laying plans to take up an issue that could prove even more divisive — a major overhaul of the nation's immigration system.

Senior White House aides privately have assured Latino activists that the president will back legislation next year to provide a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million undocumented workers now living in the United States.

In addition to the citizenship provision, the emerging plan will stress efforts to secure U.S. borders against those trying to cross illegally. But that two-track approach was rejected repeatedly in the past by Republicans and other critics who insist a border crackdown must demonstrate its effectiveness before any action on citizenship is considered.

Whatever proposal Obama puts forward will likely be complicated by the calendar: Midterm elections are in November, and polls show the public is more worried about joblessness and the fragile economy than anything else.

The White House already has a packed agenda for 2010: economic recovery, global-warming legislation and tougher regulation of financial institutions.

In an effort to enlist the kind of business support that helped drive its health-care initiative, for example, administration officials have reached out to the National Restaurant Association, which represents an industry that employs thousands of immigrants. Earlier this year, the new head of the association, Dawn Sweeney, met with Cecilia Munoz, a White House aide involved in the issue, and expressed interest in cooperating.

"It's an extremely important issue for our members," said Sweeney, whose group could exert grass-roots pressure on lawmakers.

As a candidate, Obama vowed to take up immigration during his first year in office. That deadline will come and go. Further delay could anger Latino voters, who came out in force for the president and congressional Democrats in 2008.

"The bulk of the people needing immigration reform are Latino," said Rep. Raul M. Grijalva, D-Ariz. "There's a level of disenchantment about where we're going. ... And if you don't give the Latino community a reason to participate (in the elections) you weaken your base even more."

For an immigration bill to have a realistic shot of passing next year, political analysts said, the particulars would have to be agreed upon by the spring. Delay would increase the likelihood of the issue being derailed by the November elections.

An immigration bill was introduced in the House earlier in the month, and Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., who chairs a subcommittee on immigration, is heading the effort to cobble together a bipartisan coalition in the Senate.

But Democrats may not have a lock on one prominent Republican who has worked in the past to revamp the immigration system: Arizona Sen. John McCain.

McCain backed George W. Bush's failed attempt to overhaul immigration in his second term. But he has not committed to supporting the Obama bill, saying he worried the president would not endorse a temporary guest-worker program.

Organized labor, an important part of the Democratic base, has voiced opposition to a guest-worker program under which more immigrants could enter the country on a temporary basis. The White House would not reveal its position on guest-worker issue.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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that is how they are gonna stay in power.........

add in the illegals........

and screw everyone else..........
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that is how they are gonna stay in power.........

add in the illegals........

and screw everyone else..........
 Quoting: picesnator

in the words of archie bunker - this country has gonna down the crapper.
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The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Does my mom, a resident alien for over 40 years, get free instant citizenship too? What about all those papers and the 400 bucks she had to pay, does she get a refund, or does this only apply to frijole eaters so it's completely racist and unfair?
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isnt this what he wanted all along?
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:mine!!:
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Does my mom, a resident alien for over 40 years, get free instant citizenship too? What about all those papers and the 400 bucks she had to pay, does she get a refund, or does this only apply to frijole eaters so it's completely racist and unfair?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 769657

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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
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the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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isnt this what he wanted all along?
 Quoting: jnchisox1

transparency
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
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the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Maybe Obama is doing this so he can finally get a legitimate passport.
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Maybe Obama is doing this so he can finally get a legitimate passport.
 Quoting: ZTE

rub a lamp wink
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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just great...
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Maybe Obama is doing this so he can finally get a legitimate passport.
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Maybe the yahoos should have vacationed in Mexico instead of Hawaii
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just great...
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isnt that just smack you on the ass, spit on your neck fantastic?
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Does my mom, a resident alien for over 40 years, get free instant citizenship too? What about all those papers and the 400 bucks she had to pay, does she get a refund, or does this only apply to frijole eaters so it's completely racist and unfair?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 769657


I think this is the much ballyhooed "Hope and Change" liberals were talking about. Sorta like "I'm all for instant citizenship, as long as they don't move in next to me."
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Does my mom, a resident alien for over 40 years, get free instant citizenship too? What about all those papers and the 400 bucks she had to pay, does she get a refund, or does this only apply to frijole eaters so it's completely racist and unfair?


I think this is the much ballyhooed "Hope and Change" liberals were talking about. Sorta like "I'm all for instant citizenship, as long as they don't move in next to me."

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680551

meanwhile we've been sayn all along keep the change
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Unleash 12 million new potential workers, (criminal aliens) at a time when unemployment is already over 10% for legal citizens. That should fly. The Dems will need these people as voters in 2010 and 2012 to attempt to remain in power. That has been their plan all along.
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Does my mom, a resident alien for over 40 years, get free instant citizenship too? What about all those papers and the 400 bucks she had to pay, does she get a refund, or does this only apply to frijole eaters so it's completely racist and unfair?


I think this is the much ballyhooed "Hope and Change" liberals were talking about. Sorta like "I'm all for instant citizenship, as long as they don't move in next to me."
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I really don't give a fuck about "illegals"..my problem is corporations having the same legal status as private, natural born human souls!
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Unleash 12 million new potential workers, (criminal aliens) at a time when unemployment is already over 10% for legal citizens. That should fly. The Dems will need these people as voters in 2010 and 2012 to attempt to remain in power. That has been their plan all along.
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Just got back from the Wal-mart.
I was behind some Mexicans.
They were buying good stuff like steak, a full rack of ribs and two cases of Corona.
I just happened to glance in the guys wallet when he paid.
A pile of hundreds, he paid with a hundred.
Sure must be nice not to pay taxes.
Sure must be nice to live in this country without any of the responsibilities.
I need to be declared illegal.
Seems like a really great deal.
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that pisses me off so much, in chicago, most retail jobs require you to speak spanish as a second language because of the large amount of hispanics in the area
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that pisses me off so much, in chicago, most retail jobs require you to speak spanish as a second language because of the large amount of hispanics in the area
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this is infuriating, one non stop ass rape after another.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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that pisses me off so much, in chicago, most retail jobs require you to speak spanish as a second language because of the large amount of hispanics in the area
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And if you don't...YOU'RE RACISTS!!! I have to deal with hispanic customers all the time, had to pick up on some Spanish to deal with them.
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He is doing exactly what he said he would do:
"We are going to fundamentally change this country."
He said it more than once on the campaign.
So to all you morons who voted for this scum, is this what you had in mind?
Destroying the nation is exactly what his goal is.
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He's in Hawaii resting up for 2010. I don't know if we can handle 3 more years of this yahoo.....but we knew this was up next didn't we?
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that pisses me off so much, in chicago, most retail jobs require you to speak spanish as a second language because of the large amount of hispanics in the area



And if you don't...YOU'RE RACISTS!!! I have to deal with hispanic customers all the time, had to pick up on some Spanish to deal with them.
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have "bendejo" on the tip of your tongue chuckle
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He is doing exactly what he said he would do:
"We are going to fundamentally change this country."
He said it more than once on the campaign.
So to all you morons who voted for this scum, is this what you had in mind?
Destroying the nation is exactly what his goal is.
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they all need a urine bag upside the head
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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What's that mean Phenn?
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He's in Hawaii resting up for 2010. I don't know if we can handle 3 more years of this yahoo.....but we knew this was up next didn't we?
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and crap & tax.....

and healthcare redux........

illegal give away..........

and a biggie.........playing general.......

and i predict he'll turn the EPA loose on us.........
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