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I KNOW A GUY WHO WORKS AT CERN - HERE IS WHAT HE TOLD ME

 
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He was a physics genius at school, won a scholarship to attend university, we lost touch - caught up for the first time in 20 years this new years, he is on holidays - he got real drunk and i started pressuring him to tell me what he knows about what is really going on there at cern with the lhc - he insisted he couldnt say much as he has signed a 'non-disclosure' contract and if he told anyone anything he could be jailed - i convinced him to play hot and cold - you know the game, you ask a question and either you are 'hot' as in close to the truth, or 'cold' far away from the truth. i kept feeding him homemade blackberry schnapps - 60 proof and he was getting ego fat the more curious i became - so my questions went something like this.

CERN is real life IMC (from the film contact) = WARM
LHC is a stargate - GETTIING STEAMY
LHC is a 'time machine' = STEAMY

at this point i practically shouted 'NO SHIT' and the whole party turned and stared at me - he got all paranoid and started to clam up.

before he left, some hours later, after i had all but given up, he said - do you really want to know what the large hadron collider is for? and handed me a piece of paper with this web address - [link to www.theage.com.au] and then he said - read the paragraph near dr. paul davies photograph - you figure out the fukn rest you nosy bastard.

here is the paragraph from the address - the interesting bit i have bolded... so, i did the math, i think i have figured it out - what do you guys think?

For that reason, theoretical physicists are focused, instead, on unravelling the mysteries of travelling backwards in time, not forwards. While allowed by Einstein's theories, it is extremely contentious. Travelling forwards in time merely requires that one travel very fast. Travelling backwards in time involves exotic and dubious feats of engineering.

Davies outlined the most popular backwards-in-time model, a man-made variant of a black hole called a wormhole, in his 2001 book How to Build a Time Machine. Black holes are formed from large stars that have burnt out and then imploded. Making a time machine out of them requires building a pair of linked black holes, known as a wormhole. The wormhole would be, literally, a portal into the past.

American physicist Kip Thorne in the mid-1980s first examined how this might be done, and Davies' book outlines how 21st-century technology might build one.

Firstly, a minuscule wormhole would be created in a particle accelerator, a synchrotron-like structure such as that at CERN in Switzerland or Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York. Secondly, the wormhole would be inflated and maintained using as-yet-undeveloped "exotic matter" such as antigravity. Thirdly, one mouth of the wormhole would be whirled around in the particle accelerator at close to the speed of light for a decade to establish a time dilation difference between the two wormhole mouths. Bring the two mouths back together, and - presto! - one back-in-time machine.

This model has certain limitations: the earliest one could travel back to would be to when the wormhole, and its "exit" mouth, was built. This rules out travel to, say, World War II, and explains why tourists from the future haven't arrived. However, such a machine faces spectacular engineering and philosophical problems. "My money would be on the fact that it probably couldn't be built, but I couldn't say that for sure and I don't think anyone else could say it for sure either," says Luckock.

"No-one can say the physics says it's not possible," says Dr Leo Brewin, a senior lecturer in mathematics at Monash University. "What is problematic is the sense of scale . . . the energy required to construct wormholes is enormous. It's hard to see how one could go about making them."

Professor Ray Volkas, a researcher of theoretical particles at Melbourne University, said the engineering challenges of building wormholes are "extremely considerable". "Einstein's general relativity can allow this wormhole-type situation (so) it's worth thinking about . . . it's still an open question as to whether this sort of gizmo is possible."
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<SNIP> (from above, for clarity)

from this web address - [link to www.theage.com.au]

For that reason, theoretical physicists are focused, instead, on unravelling the mysteries of travelling backwards in time, not forwards. While allowed by Einstein's theories, it is extremely contentious. Travelling forwards in time merely requires that one travel very fast. Travelling backwards in time involves exotic and dubious feats of engineering.

Davies outlined the most popular backwards-in-time model, a man-made variant of a black hole called a wormhole, in his 2001 book How to Build a Time Machine. Black holes are formed from large stars that have burnt out and then imploded. Making a time machine out of them requires building a pair of linked black holes, known as a wormhole. The wormhole would be, literally, a portal into the past.

American physicist Kip Thorne in the mid-1980s first examined how this might be done, and Davies' book outlines how 21st-century technology might build one.

Firstly, a minuscule wormhole would be created in a particle accelerator, a synchrotron-like structure such as that at CERN in Switzerland or Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York. Secondly, the wormhole would be inflated and maintained using as-yet-undeveloped "exotic matter" such as antigravity. Thirdly, one mouth of the wormhole would be whirled around in the particle accelerator at close to the speed of light for a decade to establish a time dilation difference between the two wormhole mouths. Bring the two mouths back together, and - presto! - one back-in-time machine.

This model has certain limitations: the earliest one could travel back to would be to when the wormhole, and its "exit" mouth, was built. This rules out travel to, say, World War II, and explains why tourists from the future haven't arrived. However, such a machine faces spectacular engineering and philosophical problems. "My money would be on the fact that it probably couldn't be built, but I couldn't say that for sure and I don't think anyone else could say it for sure either," says Luckock.

"No-one can say the physics says it's not possible," says Dr Leo Brewin, a senior lecturer in mathematics at Monash University. "What is problematic is the sense of scale . . . the energy required to construct wormholes is enormous. It's hard to see how one could go about making them."

Professor Ray Volkas, a researcher of theoretical particles at Melbourne University, said the engineering challenges of building wormholes are "extremely considerable". "Einstein's general relativity can allow this wormhole-type situation (so) it's worth thinking about . . . it's still an open question as to whether this sort of gizmo is possible." <SNIP>
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yes, of course it is.

it's for slamming two atoms together, isn't it?

chuckle
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*sigh* always an insta-shill on hand to combat the truth tellers.

pay no mind, fellow seekers - i am telling the truth.

he also asked if i had seen the denzel washington film 'deja vu' - he said this technology where you can view the past but not interact is up and running for a decade now.
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yes, of course it is.

it's for slamming two atoms together, isn't it?

chuckle
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why did i bother - anyone on here besides moms basement dwellers?

i'm telling you what a physicist who works at the lhc told me and i get shills and people who laugh at their own stupidity.

ma god help such fool humans.
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*sigh* always an insta-shill on hand to combat the truth tellers.

pay no mind, fellow seekers - i am telling the truth.

he also asked if i had seen the denzel washington film 'deja vu' - he said this technology where you can view the past but not interact is up and running for a decade now.
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bsflag

I actually believed some of what you said until you spewed out that last line of crap.
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I'd like to take a trip back in time.

Where do I sign up?

Nice, interesting piece Mr. Risk.
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yes, of course it is.

it's for slamming two atoms together, isn't it?

chuckle


why did i bother - anyone on here besides moms basement dwellers?

i'm telling you what a physicist who works at the lhc told me and i get shills and people who laugh at their own stupidity.

ma god help such fool humans.
 Quoting: MR.RISK 854212

Humility is a great quality to have.
You need some practice at it.
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He is pulling your leg mate, and here is just one example why.

[link to cdsweb.cern.ch]
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Excellent post OP. This LHC is an absolutely heinous device.

Did you catch the thread where three prophecies were given, one by Nostro, one by a 4th century priest and I can't remember the 3rd. All three dealing with getting out of Geneva, and Norway disappearing?

It may be the key to the Abyss. Heaven help us all.
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i dont know many times i have to tell you monkeys but there is no such thing as time travel and never can be. Time is a HUMAN concept morons. FFS when are you going to wake up. To be able to time travel you would have to have a situation where all that has been in the past still exists in the present at the same moment ... IT DOESN'T and never could.

Regards
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yes, of course it is.

it's for slamming two atoms together, isn't it?

chuckle


why did i bother - anyone on here besides moms basement dwellers?

i'm telling you what a physicist who works at the lhc told me and i get shills and people who laugh at their own stupidity.

ma god help such fool humans.
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No shills mate just the truth, it does what it says on the box. You just want to believe its for some far out scifi carry on.

Our company deliverd parts for this thing.
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*sigh* always an insta-shill on hand to combat the truth tellers.

pay no mind, fellow seekers - i am telling the truth.

he also asked if i had seen the denzel washington film 'deja vu' - he said this technology where you can view the past but not interact is up and running for a decade now.

bsflag

I actually believed some of what you said until you spewed out that last line of crap.
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i didnt come here to try and convince anyone of anything - why would i, it makes no difference if you believe me or not - this is what i was told by a guy who works at fucking cern, who gives a damn if you believe me - sheesh...

just because you believe something doesnt mean it is true and vice versa - are there any adults on here anymore?
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So Titor was correct in what he said?
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I'd like to take a trip back in time.

Where do I sign up?

Nice, interesting piece Mr. Risk.
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thank you for reading - it's just something i thought i would share... for some reason.
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I'd like to take a trip back in time.

Where do I sign up?

Nice, interesting piece Mr. Risk.


thank you for reading - it's just something i thought i would share... for some reason.
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So you are angry at us for not believing a random post on a internet conspiracy website?
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Humility is a great quality to have.
You need some practice at it.
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i am not proud of what i was told and self assertion is what you have to do to be heard above all the monkey squabble in the concrete jungle.

so thanks for your advice, but no thanks
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Hey OP go here [link to cdsweb.cern.ch]

Theres enough info here to make your own mind up.
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Thanks OP. On this forum you have to wade through an ocean of idiots and shills to find one drop of good info. Cern is of great concern to me, shades of The Sons of Baal in Atlantis.
I would entertain that time travel has already been achieved (Montauk, NY) but that they ran into a "wall" that they could not get past. Just my 2 cents.
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Pay no attention to your detractors, Mr. Risk. Some of us are listening and are appreciative of your efforts.
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Excellent post OP. This LHC is an absolutely heinous device.

Did you catch the thread where three prophecies were given, one by Nostro, one by a 4th century priest and I can't remember the 3rd. All three dealing with getting out of Geneva, and Norway disappearing?

It may be the key to the Abyss. Heaven help us all.
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Thanks OP.

I recall the previous post, veeery interesting, however i do not recall Norway disappearing. Could someone find that thread PLEASE. I am looking too.

OP, Cern whatever it is, will not be good for humanity. After billions of dollars and mega problems will they succeed?
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he said this technology where you can view the past but not interact is up and running for a decade now.
its called a movie theater i think, not sure about that.
have to check
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(Montauk, NY) but that they ran into a "wall" that they could not get past. Just my 2 cents.
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do you remember what date? 3000AD?
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[link to cdsweb.cern.ch]
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[link to cdsweb.cern.ch]
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[link to cdsweb.cern.ch]
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These time experiments by the Illuminati are attempts to defeat the will of the universe. We are in a time loop, and 2012 is a window of opportunity for souls to graduate and get out of it. The Illuminati and their alien friends obviously will remain trapped and so that is why they are always trying to escape (they want to pollute higher dimensions), and when they can't they attempt to restart time and take as many people with them as possible.
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Excellent post OP. This LHC is an absolutely heinous device.

Did you catch the thread where three prophecies were given, one by Nostro, one by a 4th century priest and I can't remember the 3rd. All three dealing with getting out of Geneva, and Norway disappearing?

It may be the key to the Abyss. Heaven help us all.
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didnt see that one, sounds interesting - remember its title?
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Titor said his machine use Two Micro Singularities to time travel.

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