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Nearly 80,000 Refugees Resettled In The United States In 2009

 
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birthday party? sounds more like an open house party.


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New Year's birthdays aplenty
Refugees who come to the United States without records are often given Jan. 1 as their date of birth. The practice of assigning such birthdays began after the Vietnam War.

Abdalla Ali thinks he might have been born during the rainy season. He is pretty sure the year was 1984, but he doesn't know which month.

Ali grew up not knowing his age or tracking his birthday.

But each year in San Diego, where he now lives with his wife, siblings and dozens of other Somali Bantus, Ali and his fellow refugees celebrate together. They all share the same birthday: New Year's Day.

Of the nearly 80,000 refugees resettled in the United States this year, almost 11,000 have been given Jan. 1 birthdays, according to the State Department. The practice of having overseas State Department or United Nations workers assign a New Year's Day birthday to people who do not know when they actually were born is not a formal policy, but it has become common around the world.

Refugees from Burma, Sudan, Laos and Ethiopia are among the many who officially will turn one year older today.

Many of the newcomers were born in homes rather than hospitals, without birth certificates, handprints or cameras to document the day. Others were born in refugee camps or in war zones, where record-keeping was rare. Frequently, births were remembered by their proximity to important events -- the year of the famine, the season the village was ambushed by soldiers, the time of the flood.

While some parents were uneducated and didn't know how to record their children's births, others, like the Hmong from Laos, simply didn't consider birthdays more significant than other days.

"Birthdays weren't that important," said Joy Hofer, vice president of the International Institute of Los Angeles. "The important events are death and marriage, that's it."

Ali, who believes he is 26, said he was surprised by how much attention Americans paid to birthdays. But he quickly adapted to the rituals of birthday cakes, candles, wishes and gifts.

"Having parties is nice," he said. "It's very nice to know how old I am and to celebrate my age."

Even though he is glad to have a birthday to commemorate each year, Ali said another date is still more important to him -- the day he arrived in America.

The practice of assigning Jan. 1 birthdays began after the Vietnam War, when large numbers of Vietnamese were being resettled in the United States. Now, it is used for refugees who come from countries without well-developed legal or civil systems, said Beth Schlachter, a spokeswoman for the State Department. Refugees are assigned a birth year based on each family's own account.

"If you don't have a court system and you don't have records, birthdays become fungible," Schlachter said.

Not knowing their correct birthdays can cause problems when newcomers reach a country such as the United States, where legal rights and obligations often depend on a person's exact age. If a young refugee is actually 16, but is given an age of 19, he may be unable to enroll in school. And if an older refugee is really 70 but thinks she is 60, she won't be immediately eligible for Social Security benefits.

"If you get your date of birth wrong, it's a problem," said Sharlu Tusaw, 36, of Burma, who has worked with refugees in Bakersfield. "Whether too young or too old, you have to get it right."

UNICEF is working to improve birth registration so children from developing countries have access to healthcare and education and so they are protected from underage employment, marriage or military service.

Some wish they knew the actual date more precisely. Burmese refugee Eh Lah said it simply wasn't in her culture to remember or celebrate birthdays. And even if it had been, there was no money for a party.

She was born in a refugee camp in Thailand after her parents fled Burma, now officially called Myanmar. Her parents died when she was 3. Before coming to the United States, her uncle estimated Lah's age based on the births of his own children.

She was assigned the birthday of Jan. 1, 1984.

"It makes me sad," she said. "I want to know the right month, date and year I was born."

Another refugee from Burma, Ban Ban, had his first birthday party last year -- when, according to his documents, he turned 20.

Ban was born in Burma and then moved to a refugee camp in Thailand as a teenager. There, he lived in a hut without running water or electricity and cooked over a charcoal fire. The only days his family celebrated were weddings and his ethnic group's New Year.

Arriving in America in 2007, Ban was assigned Jan. 1 as a birthday. Now he lives in Bakersfield, where he takes English classes and works as a caregiver for disabled people. Ban said he has gotten used to writing his date of birth, including on his applications for college classes, car insurance and a bank account.

At the beginning of 2009, his boss threw a party for everyone with a January birthday.

At the party, Ban got a birthday cake (cheesecake), a present (a pair of pants that was too small), lunch (Filipino food) and a lot of birthday wishes. He blew out the candle, but said he didn't know until later that he was supposed to make a wish.

"Everybody said, 'Happy birthday,' and they shake my hand," he said. "Some people give me a kiss. . . . It was very strange."

Ban also got another surprise that day: a traffic ticket. The officer didn't mention the birthday.

He said sharing his birthday with other refugees -- and with New Year's -- makes him feel special.

"I feel like I am going to start a new life every year," he said.

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80,000 lives saved, Bless you America
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whats the financial upchuck factor on that?
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whats the financial upchuck factor on that?
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If you were not too lazy to work you would not care. How about earning your own money by working instead of posting stupid shit on GLP ?

BTW, your picture sucks, you are old and ugly.
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whats the financial upchuck factor on that?
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Ahhh, that's you showing your Christian spirit again, Phennn.

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How many are muslims?
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whats the financial upchuck factor on that?


If you were not too lazy to work you would not care. How about earning your own money by working instead of posting stupid shit on GLP ?

BTW, your picture sucks, you are old and ugly.
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good morning vern, been expecting you. sorry that you have to bust calories shilling boards on a pay for click, but i dont have to work. im financially secure.

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Ahhh, that's you showing your Christian spirit again, Phennn.


For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in.

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Tell em all to fuck off, what the fuck is wrong with ya?
Tell em to git the fuck out!
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Just wait. Obama has that money allocated for the Palestinians for "humanitarian reasons including relocation" for up to 700,000.

I am NOT saying he plans to relocate all those to this country but he has left that part totally up in the air. Not stated where he plans to relocate them so it could be here.

You can bet at least some of them, a large number, will end up in this country.

We, too, can have a pizza parlor or bus blown up weekly.
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Refugees who can afford to go to western countries often have good educations. 80,000 people is not a great deal for the US, and considering what they can do for your economy it's a great deal. Every country in the world is in great need of people with higher education.
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Just wait. Obama has that money allocated for the Palestinians for "humanitarian reasons including relocation" for up to 700,000.

I am NOT saying he plans to relocate all those to this country but he has left that part totally up in the air. Not stated where he plans to relocate them so it could be here.

You can bet at least some of them, a large number, will end up in this country.

We, too, can have a pizza parlor or bus blown up weekly.
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more likely you'll have a pizza cooked for you or a bus driven for your larger than life fat ass. stop whining you c*(t faced bitch.
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Refugees who can afford to go to western countries often have good educations. 80,000 people is not a great deal for the US, and considering what they can do for your economy it's a great deal. Every country in the world is in great need of people with higher education.
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think about it - the possibility here - that refugees and illegals are being allowed here for one reason; theyre all from repressed countries. if/when the US finalizes its plans for communism these people wont resist, theyre here to replace us.
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Refugees who can afford to go to western countries often have good educations. 80,000 people is not a great deal for the US, and considering what they can do for your economy it's a great deal. Every country in the world is in great need of people with higher education.
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Bullshit. The immigrants with education and skills are a small fraction of those admitted. And they're not the ones who are called 'refugees'. 'Refugees' are the trash other countries are flushing out because they don't want them. We're stupid enough to take them.
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Refugees who can afford to go to western countries often have good educations. 80,000 people is not a great deal for the US, and considering what they can do for your economy it's a great deal. Every country in the world is in great need of people with higher education.


Bullshit. The immigrants with education and skills are a small fraction of those admitted. And they're not the ones who are called 'refugees'. 'Refugees' are the trash other countries are flushing out because they don't want them. We're stupid enough to take them.
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bingo. thank you.
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think about it - the possibility here - that refugees and illegals are being allowed here for one reason; theyre all from repressed countries. if/when the US finalizes its plans for communism these people wont resist, theyre here to replace us.
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I don't agree with that. Most of these people, especially the "illegals" you talk about who are really economic refugees, they all want the good life. They see the same commercials you do, they have seen the better life on TV, just like almost every poor soul on this planet. They all want "stuff", and they want the life style that can deliver that stuff. Communism will never ever do that.
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think about it - the possibility here - that refugees and illegals are being allowed here for one reason; theyre all from repressed countries. if/when the US finalizes its plans for communism these people wont resist, theyre here to replace us.


I don't agree with that. Most of these people, especially the "illegals" you talk about who are really economic refugees, they all want the good life. They see the same commercials you do, they have seen the better life on TV, just like almost every poor soul on this planet. They all want "stuff", and they want the life style that can deliver that stuff. Communism will never ever do that.
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the ppl in the country are clueless as to where we're headed, you think these refugees have a clue?
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the usa should be forced to accept all refugees from the countries they bomb, or the countries that get bombed supported by the usa through the delivery of weaponary.

lets see how fast they stop dropping cluster bombs then.
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Refugees who can afford to go to western countries often have good educations. 80,000 people is not a great deal for the US, and considering what they can do for your economy it's a great deal. Every country in the world is in great need of people with higher education.


Bullshit. The immigrants with education and skills are a small fraction of those admitted. And they're not the ones who are called 'refugees'. 'Refugees' are the trash other countries are flushing out because they don't want them. We're stupid enough to take them.

bingo. thank you.
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u sound like a good christian. jesus is proud of u.
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the usa should be forced to accept all refugees from the countries they bomb, or the countries that get bombed supported by the usa through the delivery of weaponary.

lets see how fast they stop dropping cluster bombs then.
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not like it would matter, the US is not controlled by americans. they use us as they see fit.
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the usa should be forced to accept all refugees from the countries they bomb, or the countries that get bombed supported by the usa through the delivery of weaponary.

lets see how fast they stop dropping cluster bombs then.
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here we go.....
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u sound like a good christian. jesus is proud of u.
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^^^^^
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u sound like a good christian. jesus is proud of u.


^^^^^
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keep trying to hide your true nasty self and fool your jesus with diversions. it will work....
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think about it - the possibility here - that refugees and illegals are being allowed here for one reason; theyre all from repressed countries. if/when the US finalizes its plans for communism these people wont resist, theyre here to replace us.


I don't agree with that. Most of these people, especially the "illegals" you talk about who are really economic refugees, they all want the good life. They see the same commercials you do, they have seen the better life on TV, just like almost every poor soul on this planet. They all want "stuff", and they want the life style that can deliver that stuff. Communism will never ever do that.

the ppl in the country are clueless as to where we're headed, you think these refugees have a clue?
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When they see their visions and hopes for a future go out, they will be the same as anyone else, fighting to hold on to what they got.
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u sound like a good christian. jesus is proud of u.


^^^^^
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keep trying to hide your true nasty self and fool your jesus with diversions. it will work....

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face it, americans are fuckin tired of footing the bill for all you bleeding hearts. YOU fund the tab and give our wallets a rest.
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u sound like a good christian. jesus is proud of u.


^^^^^
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keep trying to hide your true nasty self and fool your jesus with diversions. it will work....


face it, americans are fuckin tired of footing the bill for all you bleeding hearts. YOU fund the tab and give our wallets a rest.
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and she keeps ignoring the point.

in 1 thread a good christian...in another a hateful narcistic tool for the satanist agenda that her jesus totally was rebelling against.

jesus is watching u not only when u pretend ur a christian...
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u sound like a good christian. jesus is proud of u.


^^^^^
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keep trying to hide your true nasty self and fool your jesus with diversions. it will work....


face it, americans are fuckin tired of footing the bill for all you bleeding hearts. YOU fund the tab and give our wallets a rest.


and she keeps ignoring the point.

in 1 thread a good christian...in another a hateful narcistic tool for the satanist agenda that her jesus totally was rebelling against.

jesus is watching u not only when u pretend ur a christian...
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"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'

"Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'"
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u sound like a good christian. jesus is proud of u.
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Quote me a Bible verse that says the West should commit cultural and economic suicide by taking in other countries' riff-raff.
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When we had the frontier and then the industrial boom between 1890 and 1925 we needed to take in more people.
Today this country has over 300 million people, the frontier has been conquered and our industrial base has been farmed out to third world countries.
We have absolutely no need to take any immigrants from anywhere.
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and she keeps ignoring the point.

in 1 thread a good christian...in another a hateful narcistic tool for the satanist agenda that her jesus totally was rebelling against.

jesus is watching u not only when u pretend ur a christian...
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i wont dignify any of this with an answer, bc youre using 'this' to shill your progressive bullshit. weasel words wont flying here pal.
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u sound like a good christian. jesus is proud of u.


Quote me a Bible verse that says the West should commit cultural and economic suicide by taking in other countries' riff-raff.

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there it is ^^^
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