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Plasma Theory - More Disinfo From The PTB To Create False Scientific Paradigm

 
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Just like the PTB have created the false paradigm between Democrats and Republicans, black and white, good and bad, men and women, rich and poor, this and that, they have also created false scientific paradigms too.

Global Warming is a prime example. Another one is the Plasma Theory.

The plasma theory can not explain a number of major things.

1. Global Floods...They can only be created through a super dense object or a impact event. These are the only 2 ways that a global flood can happen and it's happened 3 times in recorded history. If pole shift is proven that can be another way but that is yet to be deemed proof.

2. The Norway Spiral...We saw a solid object, going round and round being drawn into a center. When the center expanded, it was black as night and NO STARS in it. Also, the PTB were there to see it so it MUST have been a solid object being drawn into something.

3. The ancients spoke of an object, many called The Destroyer. An object, a heavenly body, not some plasma fluff cloud. There were many names for it like Nemesis, Wormwood, Devil, Satan, Phaeton, ect....

4. The Egyptions used a calendar of 360 days, then The Destroyer passed (7 days) and the Earth's orbit was now 365 days. They still went by the 360 day calendar, but used those 5 extra days as days of the dead to mourn friends and loved ones lost. A plasma cloud would not change Earth's orbit.

5. The plama cloud idea would take ages to get through, not 7 days as stated over and over and over again by the ancients. A plasma cloud, as described, would take decades if not centuries for Earth to emerge from. There would be no life left on the planet.

6. Impact craters on the south pole of the moon and several new impact craters found to have happened at the same exact time of the one that killed the dinosaurs pretty much show that as the dense object moves north, it drags a bunch of debris with it, thus impacting the south pole of the moon and blasting Earth.

7. Millions of dinosaur bones, all twisted together and deposited in one place does in no way suggest a plasma cloud but completely suggests a huge wave that carried them there and deposited them there.

This is just 7 of about 100 possible ways to prove this fluff cloud thing is just that,...a bunch of fluff.

See, NASA does not want you knowing they have prepared for this event for over 20 years. They want you to think that they are ignorant to what is going on and were totally surprized just like everyone else. I can prove without a shadow of a doubt that there have been massive prep for decades.

I connected the ancient petroglyph spirals to the Norway spiral the day the spiral happened, in fact I released a movie the day of the spiral that I had been working on for weeks shows I was ahead of the game. Now the PTB want to try and use the ancient petroglyphs to their advantage.

Look at the date here...notice I uploaded this the day of the spiral and I sure as hell did not make this video in a couple hours.
[link to www.dailymotion.com]

So...now all this disinfo like bluebeam, CERN, HAARP, and Fluff come out to throw your attention away from the prize.
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cool2 ho hum
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Here's some plasma for yea!


Sandia Labs' Z machine is the largest laboratory source of x-rays in the world. For the few nanoseconds of a Z Machine test, its electrical output equals the output of 50x the electrical generating stations of all the power plants on earth.

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did you read that 50x all the power in the world!!!!!!!
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Here's some plasma for yea!


Sandia Labs' Z machine is the largest laboratory source of x-rays in the world. For the few nanoseconds of a Z Machine test, its electrical output equals the output of 50x the electrical generating stations of all the power plants on earth.


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not saying you're not right about plasma being a big player in the role of life in the universe.

What I am saying is that it did not cause the Great Floods
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Why not? Do you know anything about cosmic ray spallation and the ability of this plasma to undergo Nucleosynthesis and Nuclear fusion? Where do you think H and O came from? Water didn't magically appear one day when some person wished it so. It came in the form of plasma and comets (plasma super cooled).

Hint, comets have water. Where do you think the water on the moon comes from? Did you learn anything from the water finding? The solar wind CREATES water on the surface.

Why do you lie when you do not even know enough to understand? Is it that hard to learn? Hydrogen is one of the most abundant elements in the universe, all you need to make water is Oxygen.
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And you haven't proved shit except for your massive lack of knowledge and understanding. Where are your scientific papers, experiments and such, disproving decades of plasma physics, nuclear physics (I bet you didn't even know nuclear bombs created plasma) and electrical engineering? I've got all that and more in my thread, I don't see you being able to debunk any of it frankly.

You think the US government and other governments around the world imagine plasma physics labs and facilities? You're an idiot who refuses to see what is plainly in front of you.
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Why not? Do you know anything about cosmic ray spallation and the ability of this plasma to undergo Nucleosynthesis and Nuclear fusion? Where do you think H and O came from? Water didn't magically appear one day when some person wished it so. It came in the form of plasma and comets (plasma super cooled).

Hint, comets have water. Where do you think the water on the moon comes from? Did you learn anything from the water finding? The solar wind CREATES water on the surface.

Why do you lie when you do not even know enough to understand? Is it that hard to learn? Hydrogen is one of the most abundant elements in the universe, all you need to make water is Oxygen.
 Quoting: Xenus 848259


Here is why your logic is flawed.

You're saying (without answering a single question I posed) that the solar plasma wind will create a bunch of water to cause a global flood?

Now you're really reaching there.

OK...how did this water come in 7 days, and then magically disappear from the Earth just as quick?

Then, you call me a liar. Fox news tactics once again.

You refuse to answer questions about your "global plasma theory" and then resort to name calling and slander.

You are using the same tactics the shills use...it's so obvious.

When all else fails, call names.
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And you haven't proved shit except for your massive lack of knowledge and understanding. Where are your scientific papers, experiments and such, disproving decades of plasma physics, nuclear physics (I bet you didn't even know nuclear bombs created plasma) and electrical engineering? I've got all that and more in my thread, I don't see you being able to debunk any of it frankly.

You think the US government and other governments around the world imagine plasma physics labs and facilities? You're an idiot who refuses to see what is plainly in front of you.
 Quoting: Xenus 848259


Yup...keep the shill tactics going. Until you decide to have a rational ADULT debate about this, I have come to the conclusion it's impossible to debate with someone with an OBVIOUS agenda.

You have not answered 1 question I pose.

You just keep yelling plasma plasma plasma.

You call names, make false claims, just like if someone were sitting on the set of Bill Oreilly.

Yea, I knew a bombs created plasma...

My family was actually witness to ball lightening once.

That's not my point, my point is YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT TELL ME HOW PLASMA CAUSED GLOBAL FLOODS.
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I feel like reporting an abusive post, ohhhch my brain ..

man you're so misguided on so many points, that my head hurts, YOU'RE MEAN!!

srsly, don' f around with actual facts, you'll just ... nevermind.

peace
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And you haven't proved shit except for your massive lack of knowledge and understanding. (attack on me) Where are your scientific papers, experiments and such, disproving decades of plasma physics, nuclear physics (I bet you didn't even know nuclear bombs created plasma) and electrical engineering? (attack on me) I've got all that and more in my thread, I don't see you being able to debunk any of it frankly.

You think the US government and other governments around the world imagine plasma physics labs and facilities? (a question, no answer) You're an idiot who refuses to see what is plainly in front of you. (attack on me)
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Why not? Do you know anything about cosmic ray spallation and the ability of this plasma to undergo Nucleosynthesis and Nuclear fusion?(question) Where do you think H and O came from? (question)Water didn't magically appear one day when some person wished it so. It came in the form of plasma and comets (plasma super cooled).

Hint, comets have water. Where do you think the water on the moon comes from? (question)Did you learn anything from the water finding? (question)The solar wind CREATES water on the surface.

Why do you lie when you do not even know enough to understand? (attack on me) Is it that hard to learn? (attack on me) Hydrogen is one of the most abundant elements in the universe, all you need to make water is Oxygen. (The ONLY intelligent thing you actually said)
 Quoting: Xenus 848259


Let's dissect what you just said... You will clearly see no answers, but, yet, you notice a series of ATTACKS and QUESTIONS.

This is classic debate hijacking. Mix a bunch of questions in with a series of Ad Hominim attacks to try and prove a fruitless point.

You should be a politician when you grow up.

OH...and BTW...Hydrogen is not ONE OF THE MOST abundant elements in the universe, it is THE MOST ABUNDANT element in the universe.
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guess you should know at least that our ACTUAL atm IS A PLASMA, a non-ionized low level plasma, the fact that you obviously DON'T know that alone, make my next statement, even more f'd up.

water come UP from the ground, heat expands water, and excessive PLASMA could in theory heat up the core of the earth, following me so far ??

add the expanding earth theory, heliospheric motion through our galaxy(includes the ENTIRE solar system traveling as a whole,) and of course the ELECTRIC universe theory (of which PLASMA is formed by process,) I will let you actually LOOK UP THESE FACTS, an' get back w/me. K?

godspeed lil' grasshopper ..

in theory of course, I'm usually close tho .

tomato
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guess you should know at least that our ACTUAL atm IS A PLASMA, a non-ionized low level plasma, the fact that you obviously DON'T know that alone, make my next statement, even more f'd up.

water come UP from the ground, heat expands water, and excessive PLASMA could in theory heat up the core of the earth, following me so far ??

add the expanding earth theory, heliospheric motion through our galaxy(includes the ENTIRE solar system traveling as a whole,) and of course the ELECTRIC universe theory (of which PLASMA is formed by process,) I will let you actually LOOK UP THESE FACTS, an' get back w/me. K?

godspeed lil' grasshopper ..

in theory of course, I'm usually close tho .

tomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 811871


Listen...somehow, you are utterly missing the point here.

I am not saying, once again, that plasma does not account for many of the factors.

I am asking how a plasma fluff cloud could cause the seven points I listed above and still have not gotten any answers yet.

Just a bunch of people telling me to look at this, look at that, asking questions and calling names.

Nobody here has shown me anything but, well... bs.
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1)we've gone over
2)" now is an IONIZED Plasma
3)so
4)so what
5)so what again (this is where your running into such consternation, these questions are irrelevant to Plasma .
6)goodness gracious
7)making my first point, and thank you for that .

are we finished now ???


PLEASE, ?

again good luck, I'm searchin' for the 'good parts,' just like you
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Here is why your logic is flawed.

You're saying (without answering a single question I posed) that the solar plasma wind will create a bunch of water to cause a global flood?

Now you're really reaching there.

OK...how did this water come in 7 days, and then magically disappear from the Earth just as quick?

Then, you call me a liar. Fox news tactics once again.

You refuse to answer questions about your "global plasma theory" and then resort to name calling and slander.

You are using the same tactics the shills use...it's so obvious.

When all else fails, call names.

That's not my point, my point is YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT TELL ME HOW PLASMA CAUSED GLOBAL FLOODS.
 Quoting: BlackHoleSun


7 days? I'm sorry, but where the fuck did you get that from, the bible? What a credible source of information you're using. Now we know you are acting like a shill and a believer. I wouldn't know about "shill tactics", but you seem to know an awful lot, despite being a new member of the forums.

And what global plasma theory are you talking about? I've never seen a person spin so much shit and try to twist and manipulate words around such as you. Albeit very poorly.

The floods can be explained two ways, either the water came to Earth from space or the water was from the poles. You forget that if you super heat water, it will turn into plasma, fact. Cool it down and it will return to gas, then liquid and then solid. Fact. Cool it down even more and it will form crystalline structures.

This is how water arrived to Earth in the first place.

The other way I can explain it is that the dense plasma heated up the poles as it travelled along our magnetic field lines to the poles and melted the ice. Exactly like the aurora travel along the magnetic field lines, except the denser plasma has higher energy and therefore causes more heating.

Regardless of which one, they both require water to change states, from either ice to liquid or from plasma to liquid. I made my thread for a purpose, so why don't you "debunk" the information within the thread? I'm not going to waste my time with this thread when this has all been answered in my own. And FYI, I wouldn't need to insult you if you didn't act like a stupid idiot.
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Lies can be disproved and destroyed, truth can only be buried, hidden, twisted, manipulated, separated, but still it remains. You can never win.
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Also, if you bothered to read my thread, you would see I was warned by a prominent plasma physicist about this "cloud" (wrong term, cloud implies GAS, it is not GAS) before NASA's article. The article merely confirmed what he emailed me. This is all in my thread, which you never bothered to read. Thanks and good day.
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1)we've gone over
2)" now is an IONIZED Plasma
3)so
4)so what
5)so what again (this is where your running into such consternation, these questions are irrelevant to Plasma .
6)goodness gracious
7)making my first point, and thank you for that .

are we finished now ???


PLEASE, ?

again good luck, I'm searchin' for the 'good parts,' just like you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 811871


lol...i rest my case
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What case, you never had a "case" or a point. You sought to disprove something you did not understand. And yet your theory is something with the sun turning into a black hole... something which does not even exist as we currently understand them. Methinks you're in love with Stephen Hawkings "black hole". But hey guess what, your beloved Sol is in the state of plasma too.
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The only disinformation here is you LUCUS aka BLACKWHORESUN.

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Planet X? Nothing more than another believer who lies, except now you're lying by omission, lying but not stating your BELIEF in planet X.
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So LUCUS, where is your response to plasma now? The sun IS in a plasma state, the solar wind is a plasma, plasma is 99.99% of the visible universe...
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So LUCUS, where is your response to plasma now? The sun IS in a plasma state, the solar wind is a plasma, plasma is 99.99% of the visible universe...
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