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I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo

 
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I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
I really want to join my local freemasonry lodge, I'm a devoted Philadephian Christian (Gods last and true church) and love my God Yahweh with all my heart.

I feel called to learn the art of freemasonry AS A JOB. Not for any occultic knowledge. I still believe at the highest levels of freemasonry there are bad, but ALSO GOOD people.

Jesus himself was closely related to the jobskills of a mason wasnt he? he was a carpenter in his day so i can't see the harm in wanting to learn freemasonry as a job?

My question is why is there a G on the lodge??? does this stand for geometry? if so I dont find it as a symbol at all, but the basic mathematical foundation OF freemasonry.

Are the levels in freemasonry just another way of advancing through the ranks of learning the job skils.... just like you move from crew to crew manager to maybe even manager in fast food? if i have to blindfold myself or recite a ceremony i really dont plan on doing it, seeng how it will go against my God. And they cant discriminate and turn me down soley because of rejecting to do so , can they? thanks!
Proverbs 25:2
[It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.

Proverbs 29:9
[If] a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, [there is] no rest.
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I feel a 'facepalm' moment coming on..
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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The "G" stands for GEOGRAPHY. You'll need to memorize all national and state/province capitals and be able to locate them on a map.

Once you've mastered that, my son, you will be introduced to the Deeper Mysteries -- the Rubick's Cube, the Card Tricks, and the Ten Sure Fire Ways to Win at Monopoly.

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Look at the founder of the organization before you make any decisions.
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as long as i'm not forced to worship symbols to stay in the lodge, i dont find noting wrong wth a rubiks cube :)

thanks for clearing up the geography bit, but what do you mean by a facepalm moment? sry!
Proverbs 25:2
[It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.

Proverbs 29:9
[If] a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, [there is] no rest.
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
Anal probes are a routine event among Masons.

Relax and it'll be over before you know it.
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as long as i'm not forced to worship symbols to stay in the lodge, i dont find noting wrong wth a rubiks cube :)

thanks for clearing up the geography bit, but what do you mean by a facepalm moment? sry!
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Ok...you made me do it...

One of these:


Nonono
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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G stands for G.A.O.T.U Grand/Great Architect of The Universe


May the Great SPirit Bless you

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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
i wanna do the probing, but not anally preferably with trowels and what notjerkit
Proverbs 25:2
[It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.

Proverbs 29:9
[If] a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, [there is] no rest.
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
That is a DAMNED LIE straight from HELL about the anal probes.

We hardly ever do them anymore. Seriously, once a month, maybe twice tops. And you don't have to participate if you'd rather not. Okay, you do, but you don't have to sing the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song the whole time.
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
as long as i'm not forced to worship symbols to stay in the lodge, i dont find noting wrong wth a rubiks cube :)

thanks for clearing up the geography bit, but what do you mean by a facepalm moment? sry!


Ok...you made me do it...

One of these:


Nonono
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The "G" stands for GEOGRAPHY.
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G stands for G.A.O.T.U Grand/Great Architect of The Universe
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Never heard those before.

I've always thought it to be 'geometry'.
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[link to www.benabraham.com]
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The "G" stands for GEOGRAPHY.



G stands for G.A.O.T.U Grand/Great Architect of The Universe



Never heard those before.

I've always thought it to be 'geometry'.
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Nope its G.A.O.T.U

May the Great Spirit Bless you


Take Care
Tann
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
1doh1 i'm a brotherly type of guy but the anal probing sounds scary, i just wanna learn a jobskill that i can use for the rest of my life , so wheni have a house and family i can renovate and allthat good stuff
Proverbs 25:2
[It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.

Proverbs 29:9
[If] a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, [there is] no rest.
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[link to www.biblebelievers.org.au]
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
Listen OP, be careful of what you're doing - I hope you take care and make the right choice..

This may sound a bit 'out there' - but we're on a conspiracy forum after all..

The Freemasons remain with their words that they are benevolent and help others as well as helping themselves..

Despite all the positivity from them it does not change that "their" codes and symbols are all over the place.

This is probably the fear you were mentioning.

But, it's true.. Their codes and symbols are all over the place - especially TV and the movies.

If you don't know what I'm talking about then you need to start learning that there is something more than what meets the eye.

If you know all this already, then what is driving you to join them?
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
well i just wanna learn the jobskill of masonry itself, and i dont know anyway else to get training. but if anything they ask me to do, recite, or view upon is in opposition to my God Yahweh I will simply say no and leave, knowing that they are in fact bad.
Proverbs 25:2
[It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.

Proverbs 29:9
[If] a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, [there is] no rest.
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well i just wanna learn the jobskill of masonry itself, and i dont know anyway else to get training. but if anything they ask me to do, recite, or view upon is in opposition to my God Yahweh I will simply say no and leave, knowing that they are in fact bad.
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Sorry, but it has to be said. You are an idiot.
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Ya might wanna do what others have said and examine closely who founded freemasonry...
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well i just wanna learn the jobskill of masonry itself, and i dont know anyway else to get training. but if anything they ask me to do, recite, or view upon is in opposition to my God Yahweh I will simply say no and leave, knowing that they are in fact bad.


Sorry, but it has to be said. You are an idiot.
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or a troll, or a trollish idiot
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
I really want to join my local freemasonry lodge, I'm a devoted Philadephian Christian (Gods last and true church) and love my God Yahweh with all my heart.

I feel called to learn the art of freemasonry AS A JOB. Not for any occultic knowledge. I still believe at the highest levels of freemasonry there are bad, but ALSO GOOD people.

Jesus himself was closely related to the jobskills of a mason wasnt he? he was a carpenter in his day so i can't see the harm in wanting to learn freemasonry as a job?

My question is why is there a G on the lodge??? does this stand for geometry? if so I dont find it as a symbol at all, but the basic mathematical foundation OF freemasonry.

Are the levels in freemasonry just another way of advancing through the ranks of learning the job skils.... just like you move from crew to crew manager to maybe even manager in fast food? if i have to blindfold myself or recite a ceremony i really dont plan on doing it, seeng how it will go against my God. And they cant discriminate and turn me down soley because of rejecting to do so , can they? thanks!
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The G stands for Geometry and is a reference to the order of the universe that God created in it. Find out where your nearest lodge is an petition to join. See what happens and draw your own conclusions. If you do not agree with it take a demit.
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
The "G" stands for GEOGRAPHY.



G stands for G.A.O.T.U Grand/Great Architect of The Universe



Never heard those before.

I've always thought it to be 'geometry'.



Nope its G.A.O.T.U

May the Great Spirit Bless you


Take Care
Tann
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Wait until you reach the second degree Tann.
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
The "G" stands for GEOGRAPHY.



G stands for G.A.O.T.U Grand/Great Architect of The Universe



Never heard those before.

I've always thought it to be 'geometry'.



Nope its G.A.O.T.U

May the Great Spirit Bless you


Take Care
Tann

Wait until you reach the second degree Tann.
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Hrmmm Ive not joined the lodge. There is so many similarities to what the sybolism means in your culutre and mine that I understand quiet a bit. I was created equally raised by the Great Spirit.

May the Great Spirit Bless you

Take Care
Tann
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grand architect = lucifer
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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
well i just wanna learn the jobskill of masonry itself, and i dont know anyway else to get training. but if anything they ask me to do, recite, or view upon is in opposition to my God Yahweh I will simply say no and leave, knowing that they are in fact bad.
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This is a total different masons work not what your wanting to do. YOu wanting to be a stonemason and freemason is two different things. There not evil like most tell you they are but you do need to read up on it. It can make you a good man.

May the Great Spirit Bless you

Take Care
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That is a DAMNED LIE straight from HELL about the anal probes.

We hardly ever do them anymore. Seriously, once a month, maybe twice tops. And you don't have to participate if you'd rather not. Okay, you do, but you don't have to sing the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song the whole time.
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1rof1
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thank you tann!! i see what you mean, between stone masons and freemasons, maybe freemasonry is a tool and system to contain spirits of antichrist in someway. but thank you tann, bless you!
Proverbs 25:2
[It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.

Proverbs 29:9
[If] a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, [there is] no rest.
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Here, OP. All your questions answered:

[link to www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com]
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thank you tann!! i see what you mean, between stone masons and freemasons, maybe freemasonry is a tool and system to contain spirits of antichrist in someway. but thank you tann, bless you!
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You getting closer it is a system that builds you up to be the man you are. Basically they walk you through and give you the tools to build a spiritual life. Think about it. Youve heard there is no higher degree than the 3rd as far as all 3rd are equal a 33 is not above a 3rd. Once you obtain your 3rd its like working on what we call relations in the Native way this takes you left and right for your higher degrees. Balance is key. Now you have taken the first three steps up and have your realations in order its up to you to continue on in your life and build spiritually and carry your cross you just made..


May the Great Spirit Bless you

Take Care
Tann

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Re: I'm a Philadephian Christian, and a man after God's heart, but I want to learn the ART of FREEMASONRY. Why does so much fear surround ths jo
The Great Architect the Freemasons venerate is Lucifer. Once they "ascend" into illumination, they discover Lucifer is the All-Seeing Eye at the top of the Illuminati pyramid of power. It's a subtle form of Gnosticism that eventually leads one into Lucifereanism, i.e.- Satanism, at the higher levels: 33+ deg.

The low-level minions (1-32 deg) are not privy to this depth of occultic knowledge. They prefer to dole out their secrets in bite-sized chunks to the blind/un-illuminated minions.

Most rank-n-file members simply think it's a fraternity used to get you special advantages and favors in life, such as job opportunities, and to get out of tickets. They instill a sense propriety and Elitism in their recruits. They have no clue the depths of occultic depravity the temple is involved in.

Sadly, many shallow Christians get caught up in the propaganda, and see nothing wrong with the occultic rituals they agree to perform for the sake of personal illumination and advancement.

I recommend studying Occultism from a Christian interventionist's perspective first before you investigate the "Lodge." I bet then it'll be a real "eye opener", lol.

Peace

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