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Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?

 
Amilius
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Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?
For those familiar with Illuminati Hidden Hand conversation on [link to www.illuminati-news.com] he/she said:

"There will still be the same Negative Polarity to overcome, but if we are successful in our Negative Graduation, (which we shall be) others are standing by to take our places pulling the strings from "behind the scenes". We have more than done our job, in discharging our Service to you. And we are tired. It is time for us to clear our Karmic Record, and return to being the Being of Light which is our True essence."

This is for 3D earth replica the luke-warm people will go to after 2012 Great Harvest. This is depressing news because the people will still be confused and bombarded by negativity and trapped in. These Illuminati will go to 4D Negative and those 51% good or more will go to 4D Positive without any Illuminati. The question is about the luke-warms and the new earth; who will take Illuminati place? Which higher being?

Thanks for your time. Hoping to get an answer.
Amilius

PS: I have another but a bit off-topic question; how can we be transfered to another earth? There is no way another planet looks exactly like this. Any care to clarify please?
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Re: Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?
the next 3rd density Earth will indeed be another similar planet because Earth itself is graduating to fourth density.

Fourth density corresponds to 5D.

After the 'harvest', I guess one third will graduate to 4D (dimension) positive, one third will go to fourth density (through death) and another third will simply die and be recycled somewhere else. the Illuminati and negatives will go to (or let us say, continue with) 4D negative in another planet sot hat they can whip the ass of new incarnates.
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Now for those other people going to a new 3D Earth, it is like dieing and being reborn in another planet with no memory of the transition , but with memory of their lives on Earth until 2012 (or earlier?). I mean, they remember they lived on Earth etc, but they won't remember the death and rebirth. They will think they have always lived in that environment they find themselves in. Something will happen that will change Earth (in this dimension) drastically that will make it look like another planet, and for all matters, it will be another planet if you consider uniplanetary theory.
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Something will happen that will change Earth (in this dimension) drastically that will make it look like another planet, and for all matters, it will be another planet if you consider uniplanetary theory.
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I dont get it. How can there be another planet 100% like our earth. That is bs.
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I dont get it. How can there be another planet 100% like our earth. That is bs.
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google uniplanetary theory. it WILL be Earth, but not really Earth. Earth will suffer major changes.
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Re: Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?
the planet already exists in several dimensions at once. fourth, fifth etc.

now, there is only ONE Earth in 3D. I agree with that. However, Earth will change sufficiently to look like another 3D planet in the row of evolution according to uniplanetary theory.
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google uniplanetary theory. it WILL be Earth, but not really Earth. Earth will suffer major changes.
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Okay I will. I will come back when I'm done. But do you know the answer to the first question; who will be the new illuminati for the next 25,000 years for luke-warm people? And isn't it horrible to do that? Its harder for people to reach enlightenment that way. But then again it might teach the superficial ones their lesson.
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I don't know who will be the new Illuminati. They will act the same though. and the same events we had here on Earth will repeat in essence. Things might be different, but the essence is the same. It is a time loop in 3rd density. In essence it will be all the same.
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If we will have a split, won't the people living here disappear? (2/3 of them)
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btw there is no "luke warm" people going to "3D replica" in my model. Only new incarnations / souls coming to experience such scenario. Every human who has a spirit here and the spirit is over with the Earth experience will go to 4D Earth and then 5D Earth, or they will die and end in 5D anyway..not sure if on Earth or somewhere else.

I really cannot fathom any "luke warm" souls _re_incarnating on a 3D planet, only souls incarnating for the first time. I will look into the link you provided though.
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Re: Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?
Interesting info OP, thanks!

I believe 4D is different from 3D mainly because of the influence of our minds which will not be constrained as it is on 3D. Then, if this is correct, the "appearance" of Earth will be dictated pretty much by our own thoughts.

Regarding the transference itself I believe it will be it's realized by powerful STO minds, as if STS minds had this power they would break the Justice in the Universe.

Who are the Illuminati? Reptilians?
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btw there is no "luke warm" people going to "3D replica" in my model. Only new incarnations / souls coming to experience such scenario. Every human who has a spirit here and the spirit is over with the Earth experience will go to 4D Earth and then 5D Earth, or they will die and end in 5D anyway..not sure if on Earth or somewhere else.

I really cannot fathom any "luke warm" souls _re_incarnating on a 3D planet, only souls incarnating for the first time. I will look into the link you provided though.
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Interesting answer. But Ra and the Illuminati said 1/3 will go to earth replica and it will be the same as if nothing happened except for some "mystical experience". So not everyone here goes to higher densities. About 1/3 I say. Few, very few go to negative and lots will go to the replica.
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Re: Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?
Well, let us get this right then.

3rd density still includes the fourth dimension.

if by "3D Earth replica" your source means "3rd density Earth replica" then it is probably talking about a 4D Earth after the Shift. Then it makes sense according to what I told you. 1 third dies and go fourth density, 1 third dies and gets recycled, 1 third stays alive into 4D Earth. This is not counting the sequentials (reincarnators) / aliens on Earth.
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Sorry I meant Density. But the thing about what you said is; the earth is ascending and will not have lower Densities in it. And Ra and the Illuminati did say it was another Earth. This Earth doesn't want any negative beings on it. It will not contain them. This is what puzzles me, too.
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Re: Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?
the 4th-dimensional Earth we are heading to won't contain negatives..and eventually this Earth evolves into 5th dimension (4th density). but there will be a timeline of this 4th-dimensional Earth where the NWO gets established and there are negatives.

timelines will split again after the Shift.
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this NWO timeline will END once 4th-dimensional Earth becomes 5th dimensional. this "negative" timeline (probably for the lukewarms -> now it makes sense what you said!) will cease to exist at some point and then only a positive 5th dimensional Earth will remain.

parallel to this NWO timeline, a healing 4D Earth will be slowly evolving into a 5D Earth.
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Really appreciate the topic covered here tonight.Thanks to the OP for bringing a decent topic to light for some that have been in the dark about the creations true nature. the holographic representation. Our essence is in the experience. Choice not chance creates the perception of our reality. The ontos or to be within our tellos or purpose is to coincide with the creation and actually move or steer the coarse of our realities by each individual choice within the laws of the creator of our consciousness.the earth or the illusion of it exists in infinite realities we are merely at a certain time in our awareness in the experience. We choose our path and out of those choices open up the higher dimensions to move us towards or away from the creator.We either choose light or darkness. Think of the checkerboard masonic symbolism. There is no in between no middle ground.eventually there will come a climax in each of our lives at a conscious level we make that evaluation and choose the path we will take with no regrets. We pretty much seal the deal.That choice will sustain us in the reality we experience until our decision can no longer be reversed in our mind. It is my opinion that we cannot rationalize our existence in 4D or 5D because we can never understand all the possibilities at every level of consciousness,only our individual perception and choices can be analyzed.
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Re: Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?
I'm confused.
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Re: Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?
The dimensions exist everywhere, on this planet and everywhere else.

Why do we no see life on Mars, Venus, etc...? Does that mean there is no life there because we cannot see it? Life just doesn't exist there on the third dimensional frequency.

Look here at what we can see in the third dimension:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It isn't very much.

Now imagine living as a 5D being with a much wider spectrum of visible light. 5D already exists here on Earth, as it does on other planets. Those that exist in it can see us, but we can't see them.

This is why some ET craft and beings seem to disappear in a flash. Because they are able to shift out of our spectrum of visability.

In the coming shift, some of us will go into this spectrum, into 5D. We will see much, much, more.
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Re: Illuminati/Ra Material/Harvest/2012: Who will be the next Illuminati to take their place on 3D Earth Replica?
What do you all think about the collaboration of these three theories in contrast to other religions like the christian door-to-door religions who also speak of a select few gaining entry to a higher level of plane come doomsday/apocalypse/harvest/2012/
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How will our souls be reaped at the same time and transferred to another planet exactly like earth its not going to happen is it.So what Illuminati are trying to say is that where going to die and our souls will be let go in space and we will die.Illuminati already have millions upon millions of plastic coffins ready for the great harvest.There is nothing we can do about it we are all going to die in 2012 December and thats it lets hope it goes wrong :(

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