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Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?

 
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and Bea i myself only mind triggers on behalf of those that havent assimilated.

people that use them like you have so carelessly(or on purpose)have never witnessed the devastion that can happen by someone being triggered.I have.And its not pretty.

dont push the button until you know exactly what the buttons do.
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This, I can agree with though I don't think Bea triggers anybody. I wasn't me anymore when it happened to me. I was Owl.
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i see your defense of AO as petty and misguided and illinformed and disrespectful to others freewill.

i also said to observer its bad enough considering the environment and the lurkers, let alone having someone rant theyre a friend doing it "for the benefit of all".

its called datamining.whatever reason.
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and Bea i myself only mind triggers on behalf of those that havent assimilated.

people that use them like you have so carelessly(or on purpose)have never witnessed the devastion that can happen by someone being triggered.I have.And its not pretty.

dont push the button until you know exactly what the buttons do.
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I don't see you pushing buttons at all. I see no attempts to fix the underlying issue, but sheer avoidance of it like if we don't talk about it, it will somehow go away. I see you attempting to deflect conversation that EDUCATES others concerning triggers. If we understand how they work, we can avoid buying into illusions and communicate effectively by UNDERSTANDING THE WORDS THEY USE TO MANIPULATE US. If we explore that ourselves within our safe boundaries, we can free ourselves of any underlying triggers. We regain our free will by choosing to act or not as opposed to blind kneejerk reaction.

And by the way, this is a controlled, monitored environment. We all know that. This information was available to all and we knew that the very second we posted thus consenting for what we say to be used or not. I see your attacks on AO as both petty and misguided. She revealed herself, did NOT use the data for nefarious means, gave full disclosure and opened an interesting line of debate. She wants to face the issue head on while you wish us all to just let it go. The first path is courageous and empowering, the second stinks of cowardice and fear.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


as i said you are blind.for many reasons id say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


i made a suggestion a few pages ago, you blindly chose not to see it.or maybe not.
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You don't read what I say anyway, too many words, remember? You're attempting to dominate me with facetious arguments that make no sense at all. You're expecting me to mold myself to your thinking so you can eat my energy, feel like you accomplished something. But you lack that skill. I will not submit to your fear and cowardice script. I will not fit into your narrow little box. As for anything you've said? Aside from prompting me to explore my own opinions, I've gained nothing from our interaction, no wisdom, just rash emotion that lacks rational logic and objective thought.

Last Edited by Bea Nameless on 08/24/2012 01:39 AM
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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and Bea i myself only mind triggers on behalf of those that havent assimilated.

people that use them like you have so carelessly(or on purpose)have never witnessed the devastion that can happen by someone being triggered.I have.And its not pretty.

dont push the button until you know exactly what the buttons do.
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This, I can agree with though I don't think Bea triggers anybody. I wasn't me anymore when it happened to me. I was Owl.
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do i have to hunt 30 pages back for where you did that too??continuosly? with no regard as to what you might be doing?

and im not going to write what triggers you wrote as "observer" because thatd make me just as bad.
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I don't see you pushing buttons at all. I see no attempts to fix the underlying issue, but sheer avoidance of it like if we don't talk about it, it will somehow go away. I see you attempting to deflect conversation that EDUCATES others concerning triggers. If we understand how they work, we can avoid buying into illusions and communicate effectively by UNDERSTANDING THE WORDS THEY USE TO MANIPULATE US. If we explore that ourselves within our safe boundaries, we can free ourselves of any underlying triggers. We regain our free will by choosing to act or not as opposed to blind kneejerk reaction.

And by the way, this is a controlled, monitored environment. We all know that. This information was available to all and we knew that the very second we posted thus consenting for what we say to be used or not. I see your attacks on AO as both petty and misguided. She revealed herself, did NOT use the data for nefarious means, gave full disclosure and opened an interesting line of debate. She wants to face the issue head on while you wish us all to just let it go. The first path is courageous and empowering, the second stinks of cowardice and fear.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


as i said you are blind.for many reasons id say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


i made a suggestion a few pages ago, you blindly chose not to see it.or maybe not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


You don't read what I say anyway, too many words, remember? You're attempting to dominate me with facetious arguments that make no sense at all. You're expecting me to mold myself to your thinking so you can eat my energy, feel like you accomplished something. But you lack that skill. I will not submit to your fear and cowardice script. I will not fit into your narrow little box. As for anything you've said? Aside from prompting me to explore my own opinions, I've gained nothing from our interaction, no wisdom, just rash emotion that lacks rational logic and objective thought.
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more assumptions.
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i see your defense of AO as petty and misguided and illinformed and disrespectful to others freewill.

i also said to observer its bad enough considering the environment and the lurkers, let alone having someone rant theyre a friend doing it "for the benefit of all".

its called datamining.whatever reason.
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Does anyone REALLY think that anything we typed on the internet would NOT be datamined? REALLY, lol? Really? I'm serious here. That's the most illogical thing ever. Of course they're watching... and we're watching back.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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and by writng this are you not trying to dominate me? project much?

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I don't see you pushing buttons at all. I see no attempts to fix the underlying issue, but sheer avoidance of it like if we don't talk about it, it will somehow go away. I see you attempting to deflect conversation that EDUCATES others concerning triggers. If we understand how they work, we can avoid buying into illusions and communicate effectively by UNDERSTANDING THE WORDS THEY USE TO MANIPULATE US. If we explore that ourselves within our safe boundaries, we can free ourselves of any underlying triggers. We regain our free will by choosing to act or not as opposed to blind kneejerk reaction.

And by the way, this is a controlled, monitored environment. We all know that. This information was available to all and we knew that the very second we posted thus consenting for what we say to be used or not. I see your attacks on AO as both petty and misguided. She revealed herself, did NOT use the data for nefarious means, gave full disclosure and opened an interesting line of debate. She wants to face the issue head on while you wish us all to just let it go. The first path is courageous and empowering, the second stinks of cowardice and fear.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


as i said you are blind.for many reasons id say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


i made a suggestion a few pages ago, you blindly chose not to see it.or maybe not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


You don't read what I say anyway, too many words, remember? You're attempting to dominate me with facetious arguments that make no sense at all. You're expecting me to mold myself to your thinking so you can eat my energy, feel like you accomplished something. But you lack that skill. I will not submit to your fear and cowardice script. I will not fit into your narrow little box. As for anything you've said? Aside from prompting me to explore my own opinions, I've gained nothing from our interaction, no wisdom, just rash emotion that lacks rational logic and objective thought.
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i see your defense of AO as petty and misguided and illinformed and disrespectful to others freewill.

i also said to observer its bad enough considering the environment and the lurkers, let alone having someone rant theyre a friend doing it "for the benefit of all".

its called datamining.whatever reason.
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Does anyone REALLY think that anything we typed on the internet would NOT be datamined? REALLY, lol? Really? I'm serious here. That's the most illogical thing ever. Of course they're watching... and we're watching back.
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you aid them.point blank.
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and Bea i myself only mind triggers on behalf of those that havent assimilated.

people that use them like you have so carelessly(or on purpose)have never witnessed the devastion that can happen by someone being triggered.I have.And its not pretty.

dont push the button until you know exactly what the buttons do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


I agree with a certain sadism. Not Bea, mind you. But I get what you are saying. Processed. Noted. Denoted.
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well bea did it,claimed it was good for people.
observer did it numerous times too.
as i said not much forethought in this thread for people that apparently"have been subjected to it" by their own claims.
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Thoughtful enough to acknowledge the experience you speak. Was I and am I not thoughtful? Watch me switch gears here to tell you, as I noted and denoted, I hear what you are saying. More so. What you are not saying. I have great empathy for your experience on the trigger issue. Sincere. Real. Earnest. Thought and thoughtfulness to shift gears to acknowledge what you were not saying with my last response to you.
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And I am highly observant that you missed this comment. Someone that is acknowledging you.
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i see your defense of AO as petty and misguided and illinformed and disrespectful to others freewill.

i also said to observer its bad enough considering the environment and the lurkers, let alone having someone rant theyre a friend doing it "for the benefit of all".

its called datamining.whatever reason.
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Does anyone REALLY think that anything we typed on the internet would NOT be datamined? REALLY, lol? Really? I'm serious here. That's the most illogical thing ever. Of course they're watching... and we're watching back.
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and it doesnt make it ok, it makes it worse if its
"you can trust me/im one of you/your friend"
enable much Bea?
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as i said you are blind.for many reasons id say.
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i made a suggestion a few pages ago, you blindly chose not to see it.or maybe not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


You don't read what I say anyway, too many words, remember? You're attempting to dominate me with facetious arguments that make no sense at all. You're expecting me to mold myself to your thinking so you can eat my energy, feel like you accomplished something. But you lack that skill. I will not submit to your fear and cowardice script. I will not fit into your narrow little box. As for anything you've said? Aside from prompting me to explore my own opinions, I've gained nothing from our interaction, no wisdom, just rash emotion that lacks rational logic and objective thought.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


more assumptions.
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No, that was objective based on your responses to me. Should I go back and provide examples? And as for the assumptions, get a dictionary and read what I wrote about them for my view on the matter. I'll own my assumptions proudly as they're backed up with more and more evidence each time you post. Your perception of me is your perception, it's none of my business. But you keep sticking your stick into the Bea-Hive and I perceive you can't figure out exactly why I don't come out stinging. Because you don't matter to me in the grand scheme of things. I see you as a whiny bully who's having a tantrum because she's not getting her way. No rationality, just the old "I know you are, now what am I?" I think I'll file you under Pee Wee Herman!
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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i see your defense of AO as petty and misguided and illinformed and disrespectful to others freewill.

i also said to observer its bad enough considering the environment and the lurkers, let alone having someone rant theyre a friend doing it "for the benefit of all".

its called datamining.whatever reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


Does anyone REALLY think that anything we typed on the internet would NOT be datamined? REALLY, lol? Really? I'm serious here. That's the most illogical thing ever. Of course they're watching... and we're watching back.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


and it doesnt make it ok, it makes it worse if its
"you can trust me/im one of you/your friend"
enable much Bea?
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I could care less if anyone trusts me, lol. If they do, they do, if they don't, they don't. None of my business.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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i see your defense of AO as petty and misguided and illinformed and disrespectful to others freewill.

i also said to observer its bad enough considering the environment and the lurkers, let alone having someone rant theyre a friend doing it "for the benefit of all".

its called datamining.whatever reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


Does anyone REALLY think that anything we typed on the internet would NOT be datamined? REALLY, lol? Really? I'm serious here. That's the most illogical thing ever. Of course they're watching... and we're watching back.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


you aid them.point blank.
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And just how do I do that? Please explain, if you can. No personal attacks, just rational logic and independent thought. I'll even read it.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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I agree with a certain sadism. Not Bea, mind you. But I get what you are saying. Processed. Noted. Denoted.
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well bea did it,claimed it was good for people.
observer did it numerous times too.
as i said not much forethought in this thread for people that apparently"have been subjected to it" by their own claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


Thoughtful enough to acknowledge the experience you speak. Was I and am I not thoughtful? Watch me switch gears here to tell you, as I noted and denoted, I hear what you are saying. More so. What you are not saying. I have great empathy for your experience on the trigger issue. Sincere. Real. Earnest. Thought and thoughtfulness to shift gears to acknowledge what you were not saying with my last response to you.
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And I am highly observant that you missed this comment. Someone that is acknowledging you.
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ty.and just to clear things up ive witnessed people susceptible to triggers.utterly devastating, for everyone involved and even those that try to help.its multilayered.
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i see your defense of AO as petty and misguided and illinformed and disrespectful to others freewill.

i also said to observer its bad enough considering the environment and the lurkers, let alone having someone rant theyre a friend doing it "for the benefit of all".

its called datamining.whatever reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


Does anyone REALLY think that anything we typed on the internet would NOT be datamined? REALLY, lol? Really? I'm serious here. That's the most illogical thing ever. Of course they're watching... and we're watching back.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


you aid them.point blank.
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And just how do I do that? Please explain, if you can. No personal attacks, just rational logic and independent thought. I'll even read it.
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you facilitate and enable it.right here.
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and by writng this are you not trying to dominate me? project much?

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as i said you are blind.for many reasons id say.
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i made a suggestion a few pages ago, you blindly chose not to see it.or maybe not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


You don't read what I say anyway, too many words, remember? You're attempting to dominate me with facetious arguments that make no sense at all. You're expecting me to mold myself to your thinking so you can eat my energy, feel like you accomplished something. But you lack that skill. I will not submit to your fear and cowardice script. I will not fit into your narrow little box. As for anything you've said? Aside from prompting me to explore my own opinions, I've gained nothing from our interaction, no wisdom, just rash emotion that lacks rational logic and objective thought.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless

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Show me how I'm attempting to dominate you. No personal attacks, just rational logic. How am I dominating you? By refusing to mold to you? That's not domination. That's me drawing a boundary and refusing to participate. But please, do, explain how I'm attempting to dominate you.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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I agree with a certain sadism. Not Bea, mind you. But I get what you are saying. Processed. Noted. Denoted.
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well bea did it,claimed it was good for people.
observer did it numerous times too.
as i said not much forethought in this thread for people that apparently"have been subjected to it" by their own claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


Thoughtful enough to acknowledge the experience you speak. Was I and am I not thoughtful? Watch me switch gears here to tell you, as I noted and denoted, I hear what you are saying. More so. What you are not saying. I have great empathy for your experience on the trigger issue. Sincere. Real. Earnest. Thought and thoughtfulness to shift gears to acknowledge what you were not saying with my last response to you.
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And I am highly observant that you missed this comment. Someone that is acknowledging you.
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And observant with forethought the issue of sadism has been passed over by all. Is not that the sensation you speak? Or are not speaking regarding what is being triggered?
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Does anyone REALLY think that anything we typed on the internet would NOT be datamined? REALLY, lol? Really? I'm serious here. That's the most illogical thing ever. Of course they're watching... and we're watching back.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


you aid them.point blank.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


And just how do I do that? Please explain, if you can. No personal attacks, just rational logic and independent thought. I'll even read it.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


you facilitate and enable it.right here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


Examples backed by rational thought not emotional reaction. Justify your position.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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The multiple posts about lack of memory is stating to really freak me out!!!!!

I can absorb information really well but my memory is shot to hell when it come to recalling last weeks movie I just saw. I'm skeered!

I remember taking a test in 6th grade and was later told I will be in a special program. The variety of kids was amazing. Different races, religions, economic backgrounds. It seemed like they were sifting through every socio-economic backgrounds to find us, to put us together and see what happens.
Most of the kids I grouped up with seemed much older in their in the intellect. Indigos kids?

In this program there was lots and lots of testing. We were taught to think and always asks questions. Think outside the box. We did a lot of brain teasers as they call it. Critical thinking exercises and problem solving scenarios. Thinking outside the box stuff. I don't clearly remember the test and puzzles.

We were the herded "nerd" class in junior high. We took a lot of field trips to museums and operas and plays.

Strangely enough, we were bussed from all over the city and place in a mediocre school in the "ghetto" side of town.

I had the chance to know my IQ test but never bothered to want to know in fear it may make me feel/act mentally superior over regular intelligence folks. To me it is just a number.

I kinda got bored with the program and lost interest in the academics. Girls and sports got in the way of me being a computer geek.

So far I haven't really made any serious attempts to reconnect with the other students in the program I was in. I hear stories now and then...Some are doctors and lawyers some are just housewives or a working stiff like me.
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well bea did it,claimed it was good for people.
observer did it numerous times too.
as i said not much forethought in this thread for people that apparently"have been subjected to it" by their own claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


Thoughtful enough to acknowledge the experience you speak. Was I and am I not thoughtful? Watch me switch gears here to tell you, as I noted and denoted, I hear what you are saying. More so. What you are not saying. I have great empathy for your experience on the trigger issue. Sincere. Real. Earnest. Thought and thoughtfulness to shift gears to acknowledge what you were not saying with my last response to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22315188


And I am highly observant that you missed this comment. Someone that is acknowledging you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22315188


ty.and just to clear things up ive witnessed people susceptible to triggers.utterly devastating, for everyone involved and even those that try to help.its multilayered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


And yet when someone steps up and shows you the layers and how to counter them, you attack. Avoidance of the issue does NOT make it go away. But it does create a victim mentality.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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and by writng this are you not trying to dominate me? project much?

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i made a suggestion a few pages ago, you blindly chose not to see it.or maybe not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22494589


You don't read what I say anyway, too many words, remember? You're attempting to dominate me with facetious arguments that make no sense at all. You're expecting me to mold myself to your thinking so you can eat my energy, feel like you accomplished something. But you lack that skill. I will not submit to your fear and cowardice script. I will not fit into your narrow little box. As for anything you've said? Aside from prompting me to explore my own opinions, I've gained nothing from our interaction, no wisdom, just rash emotion that lacks rational logic and objective thought.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless

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Show me how I'm attempting to dominate you. No personal attacks, just rational logic. How am I dominating you? By refusing to mold to you? That's not domination. That's me drawing a boundary and refusing to participate. But please, do, explain how I'm attempting to dominate you.
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read the post i quoted of yours.it could be looked at as both a projection and you trying to dominate me by accusing me of being an energy vamp, saying i lack skill,saying i have fear and cowardice in my script.
all lovely ways to dominate by projecting and attemping to make someone feel inferior .
youve never been accountable for the truths ive observed and stated...you cry attack rather than be subjective and honest.all tactics Bea but theyre lost on me.

you casn think im skilless...go on thats just the way i like it.now stfu.
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and Bea i myself only mind triggers on behalf of those that havent assimilated.

people that use them like you have so carelessly(or on purpose)have never witnessed the devastion that can happen by someone being triggered.I have.And its not pretty.

dont push the button until you know exactly what the buttons do.
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This, I can agree with though I don't think Bea triggers anybody. I wasn't me anymore when it happened to me. I was Owl.
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do i have to hunt 30 pages back for where you did that too??continuosly? with no regard as to what you might be doing?

and im not going to write what triggers you wrote as "observer" because thatd make me just as bad.
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If I did it, then I was totally unaware. If I did it, I would like to know it so to avoid it in the future. I asked that in the past but got ignored. Nobody bothered to tell me, which there are two non-public options for. I'm a woman with amnesia. It's getting better, I remember a lot more, but if I couldn't remember a single childhood christmas, then how am I going to remember that something is a trigger?

I get only nudges or a sense of perturbation from what comes up on the thread sometimes. Not fully triggered in a more devastating way as you're implying. I don't think that's possible. For me, at least, when things got dangerous, when I slip who I am, that was devastating. That trigger is danger in my proximity. Not any word or image, just a threat.

I'm going to stop responding to you now. All you want to do is twist. I can't stop that by responding to you. That just keeps feeding you. And no, I'm not comparing you to a troll. I just see what you want and I'm not going to be any part of it any longer.
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Thoughtful enough to acknowledge the experience you speak. Was I and am I not thoughtful? Watch me switch gears here to tell you, as I noted and denoted, I hear what you are saying. More so. What you are not saying. I have great empathy for your experience on the trigger issue. Sincere. Real. Earnest. Thought and thoughtfulness to shift gears to acknowledge what you were not saying with my last response to you.
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And I am highly observant that you missed this comment. Someone that is acknowledging you.
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ty.and just to clear things up ive witnessed people susceptible to triggers.utterly devastating, for everyone involved and even those that try to help.its multilayered.
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And yet when someone steps up and shows you the layers and how to counter them, you attack. Avoidance of the issue does NOT make it go away. But it does create a victim mentality.
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lmao nice try i dont need it Bea!you do!you need more help than anyone!youre projecting again!and assuming.not to mention assuming you know better when by your confused posts i see you dont.
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lots of shrinks fom UK study ppl on this site and group dynamics.
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and by writng this are you not trying to dominate me? project much?

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You don't read what I say anyway, too many words, remember? You're attempting to dominate me with facetious arguments that make no sense at all. You're expecting me to mold myself to your thinking so you can eat my energy, feel like you accomplished something. But you lack that skill. I will not submit to your fear and cowardice script. I will not fit into your narrow little box. As for anything you've said? Aside from prompting me to explore my own opinions, I've gained nothing from our interaction, no wisdom, just rash emotion that lacks rational logic and objective thought.
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Show me how I'm attempting to dominate you. No personal attacks, just rational logic. How am I dominating you? By refusing to mold to you? That's not domination. That's me drawing a boundary and refusing to participate. But please, do, explain how I'm attempting to dominate you.
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read the post i quoted of yours.it could be looked at as both a projection and you trying to dominate me by accusing me of being an energy vamp, saying i lack skill,saying i have fear and cowardice in my script.
all lovely ways to dominate by projecting and attemping to make someone feel inferior .
youve never been accountable for the truths ive observed and stated...you cry attack rather than be subjective and honest.all tactics Bea but theyre lost on me.

you casn think im skilless...go on thats just the way i like it.now stfu.
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Trust that. She will.
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Peripheral vision, think of how your eyes move when you're searching your inner memory banks for the information you seek. Do you look from side to side into your peripheral? (I do, that's why I ask.) Linguistics, ability to break down a word to it's base definition, language non-withstanding, find true meanings via context based on all available definitions and further break it down via etymology. Code, ability to write and run your own inner programs by understanding how your mind alone works and meta programming it accordingly, rooting out negative and harmful scripts and rewrite/replace them with your own core programming. Maybe they weren't just testing for programmers, but for those who were programmable and for those that functioned "like" computers.
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Most of that rings a bell. I process through intuitive side fist. Cock my head even to the right. On Que. At times when I sense something. Perceive something missing. Filter then, I suspect, counter clockwise through left brain quickly to perceive what is behind the scenes. It is like I can hear the unspoken. The language that is missing from something that would make it make more logical sense.
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I cock my head too, lol. It's a funny little habit. If I was a dog, my ears would be pricking up, I guess, as an equivalent act. You guys are kind of touching on something that a friend of mine from the program (not on this thread) and I were discussing the other day. We were comparing similarities in how we process information and, in some cases, act on it. I've always compared my brain to being like a computer. I don't see things in a 1 or 0 way--not at all. I truly have no opinions and would be hard pressed to be able to give one. I'd write a book on the subject if pressed. It's just like taking data in, then sorting it all--almost like when you first open the box of a puzzle. Actually, it's very much like that. Sort the data to find the frame, find how things connect.

It's why I don't think we're any kind of manchurian candidate, mkultra knockoff. What's stuffed into our heads and what makes us tick is a whole lot of information, learning. The sniffing out of propaganda and lies, knowing when something in a story is missing and a drive to quietly correct it. We're something else entirely.
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I know the ear perking up analogy you speak. I have always equated it to a cat though. (Just saw some 'cat ear' technology units that work off neuro-processor/neurons out of Japan advertised a couple weeks ago.) I never got much into the mk stuff much either. (Reading books by their cover? On some Manchurian candidates? Yes.) Actually I think that is what landed me in the gifted programs at a young age. I actually did read books by there covers and write the reports. Think something like that happened in third grade and I was so called ‘gifted’ thereafter.
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Neophiles rising, people with the ability to change and adapt, flexible in their intelligence and attitude. These types of people I do not think would be MK'd aside from maybe "shut down" as in fucked with to prevent true potential from arising. I see the Neophobes, the people who fear and avoid change, as the targets for that end of the program. I'm even leaning toward us being taken out of class to prevent their programming from over riding ours... and maybe even our "gaps" being explained as governors on our systems that would most likely degrade with time... Or specialized learning that was hidden like an easter egg with a slow cracking shell, just as planned... or not, lol. That was my on the fly thought experiment. (Never take those as the Gospel of Bea, I posit lots of crazy stuff.)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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and by writng this are you not trying to dominate me? project much?

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Show me how I'm attempting to dominate you. No personal attacks, just rational logic. How am I dominating you? By refusing to mold to you? That's not domination. That's me drawing a boundary and refusing to participate. But please, do, explain how I'm attempting to dominate you.
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read the post i quoted of yours.it could be looked at as both a projection and you trying to dominate me by accusing me of being an energy vamp, saying i lack skill,saying i have fear and cowardice in my script.
all lovely ways to dominate by projecting and attemping to make someone feel inferior .
youve never been accountable for the truths ive observed and stated...you cry attack rather than be subjective and honest.all tactics Bea but theyre lost on me.

you casn think im skilless...go on thats just the way i like it.now stfu.
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Trust that. She will.
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It is the old mind fuckers fucking themselves over paradox. While working together to learn the triggers to heal. Noted and Denoted.
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and Bea i myself only mind triggers on behalf of those that havent assimilated.

people that use them like you have so carelessly(or on purpose)have never witnessed the devastion that can happen by someone being triggered.I have.And its not pretty.

dont push the button until you know exactly what the buttons do.
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This, I can agree with though I don't think Bea triggers anybody. I wasn't me anymore when it happened to me. I was Owl.
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do i have to hunt 30 pages back for where you did that too??continuosly? with no regard as to what you might be doing?

and im not going to write what triggers you wrote as "observer" because thatd make me just as bad.
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ive shown lurkers and others enough to make them aware.
If I did it, then I was totally unaware. If I did it, I would like to know it so to avoid it in the future. I asked that in the past but got ignored. Nobody bothered to tell me, which there are two non-public options for. I'm a woman with amnesia. It's getting better, I remember a lot more, but if I couldn't remember a single childhood christmas, then how am I going to remember that something is a trigger?

I get only nudges or a sense of perturbation from what comes up on the thread sometimes. Not fully triggered in a more devastating way as you're implying. I don't think that's possible. For me, at least, when things got dangerous, when I slip who I am, that was devastating. That trigger is danger in my proximity. Not any word or image, just a threat.

I'm going to stop responding to you now. All you want to do is twist. I can't stop that by responding to you. That just keeps feeding you. And no, I'm not comparing you to a troll. I just see what you want and I'm not going to be any part of it any longer.
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expected-especially when youve been caught out twice in three pages(if the bs doesnt wash-just be an ostrich!lol)

hopefully ive done enough for the lurkers to see and those with some smarts to note.most wont post here anyway for obvious reasons.
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lots of shrinks fom UK study ppl on this site and group dynamics.
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yup..not just from the Uk...and then theres ways of appearing youre from anywhere.
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