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Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?

 
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Eugenics and genetics are a big deal to some of these illuminists it seems.
In the Brice Taylor book it seems she was selected almost by her aura or some intangible element.Not to hard to imagine since we kinda recognize one another in real life.Some of the earlier posts seemed to have afew of "us" who were successsful and working for some powerful organizations.
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Eugenics and genetics are a big deal to some of these illuminists it seems.
In the Brice Taylor book it seems she was selected almost by her aura or some intangible element.Not to hard to imagine since we kinda recognize one another in real life.Some of the earlier posts seemed to have afew of "us" who were successsful and working for some powerful organizations.
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My sister would be one of those that were "successful" and working for somebody powerful. Agreed to the recognizing each other but, based on my experience, it's not even something visually based. A high percentage of my friends, both "irl" and offline, were part of the programs. As one friend put it, it seems like we gravitate towards each other.

Yeah, eugenics/genetics does seem to matter to some. I was thinking about how improbable it was that they could basically track the population and perhaps watch specific family lines. But would it be that hard? They started the census in 1790. Who is to say that they haven't tracked and expanded on some family lines the whole time? Then it wouldn't be starting from each individual and going backward from scratch per individual but knowing who was currently alive and their ancestry, pre-flagged. Kind of weird to think of but the census is what is used by genealogists a lot, is it not?

One of my branches takes it very seriously and has some university involvement in a DNA project. They've found genetics tracing back to the House of Yngling, which I thought was pretty humorous all things considered.
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Some of my research brings up altering genetics.
By the way.
Whatcho guys think about the last couple of days?
I'm beginning to see these things as scare tactics to get people to go out and spend.
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Some of my research brings up altering genetics.
By the way.
Whatcho guys think about the last couple of days?
I'm beginning to see these things as scare tactics to get people to go out and spend.
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I saw some of my cohort in the news media the last few days. I come from a political actor's background just FYI. We're the ones you see when you think you're being fed the truth instead of a Hollywood fiction. It's all bullshit as far as I can tell. Maybe some actors/instigators nudging sheep into action, but nothing more than that usual game and some makeup for the cameras.
Zzzzzzz...

I should note we're also used for spin when real things do happen :P
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Some of my research brings up altering genetics.
By the way.
Whatcho guys think about the last couple of days?
I'm beginning to see these things as scare tactics to get people to go out and spend.
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I've always joked that when the aliens made me in the lab, they really screwed up. Now I joke that some scientists got a little too into comic books and thought it could be done. I have a lot of the physical health issues of the human radiation experiment victims (ie brittle teeth, immune disorder, and etc). Kind of ties in with what Skittle was talking about, too. What if the whole comic book superhero created by radiation theme was a psy ops to convince people that it was possible should it ever be leaked? And what if they forgot it was a psy ops and took it as inspiration to try even more? Evolution is all about beneficial mutation. Whereas I doubt they were that great at gene splicing, exposing people to radiation in the hopes of stimulating some beneficial mutation is probably exactly what they had tech wise. At least, that's kind of the work in progress theory that I was thinking about a few days ago. Go go, hive mind.

Either great minds think alike or listen to the same frequency.

Did you find anything interesting? I found something physical on my end. Will not post because it does trigger (at least it triggered me something fierce). Subliminal message hypnosis induction tape found with a doc's name on it. Doc was a former associate dean of a major medical school with a background in internal medicine, psychiatry and neurophysiology. Looks like my stay in the rabbit hole is now permanent.
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Did I ever mention that my body is covered in faint scars that are nothing but numbers, letters, symbols, and pictures that I didn't put there? :P
How's that for physical? lol
I'm still a touch lost as to how they got there, or what purpose they might serve(d). Did I just write too many cheat sheets on my arms with too sharp of a pen? And if so then why are the majority of the letters on the arm of the hand I write with....wouldn't they be on the other?
* jeopardy music*
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Did I ever mention that my body is covered in faint scars that are nothing but numbers, letters, symbols, and pictures that I didn't put there? :P
How's that for physical? lol
I'm still a touch lost as to how they got there, or what purpose they might serve(d). Did I just write too many cheat sheets on my arms with too sharp of a pen? And if so then why are the majority of the letters on the arm of the hand I write with....wouldn't they be on the other?
* jeopardy music*
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I get what you're saying totally. It's very much like the white streak in my hair and the peculiar scar along my throat. Neither of those things were likely to have been caused by me. The problem with them is that the "who could have done it" aspect is wide open. It could have been some random abuser, a parent, an uncle, a sibling or whatever at the source of these kind of things. That's why this bit of evidence that I have found (a tape) is such that there is no way in hell that I could have created it at the time of its making. It's clearly a subliminal tape and there would also be no way of my knowing the doctor whose name was on it. It starts bounding way, way outside of what could still be "normal" physical abuse" and more into "somebody with connections did something pretty outlandish". As much as I deeply hate the tape, I'm lucky in the finding of it. It's a smoking gun that can't be explained away with plausible deniability as much as a scar can. It could very well turn out to be OUR smoking gun.
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scopolamine causes memory loss.
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scopolamine causes memory loss.
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I've found that it doesn't entirely, especially if you were physically moving at the beginning and end of it's effects. The blood pumping through the body seems to keep the brain and memory function alive for just a tiny bit longer. I have a ton of walks clearly logged into my head even though the destination is a drug induced mess.
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Bingo!

I guess we "Hit A Nerve" spock


Now I'm sure there is a connection
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leave them alone... these people have had enough.
the only nerve you hit is one that relates to people who are fed up being fucked with.gfy
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I'm with Australia on this one.
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Thank you, Australia and Candy Corn. I am not the one who asked the question about the vaccination scar, but I am the one who bumped it because it is important. I am still in the process of reading through the posts and this takes time. My access to the internet has been limited also. Regardless of my personal problems, rather because of them, I don't understand why my bump was met with hostility.
I'm not stupid, either, as I replied earlier. I am, however, at the end of my rope. The vaccination scar question is particularly pertinent to me right now because mine has recently been "active." I apologize for not remembering to search this thread for a particular words until last night.
Anyone who has endured the level of harassment and interference that seems to pervade the experiences of most people who post on this thread should recognize the feeling of having had enough. It helps me to read this thread and i would like to be a part of the ongoing conversations. Maybe I have will something to add that is of merit. Right now though, I am really stressed and come here in order to try to keep myself together, whatever that means.
I have a great understanding of what is behind the experiences that are recounted in this thread. Very little that i have read in this thread is new to me. The vaccination scar question was.
One thing that we must have, along with a "healthy" sense of "paranoia," is compassion. Without that, we become no more than agents for the perpetuation of the sick, twisted systems that have perpetrated on so many people's minds and lives.
Peacehf
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Watch "THE X-FILES" on NETFLIX Season 4 Episode 1

I talks about this in detail.

S-E-P = Small pox , Eradication, Program drevil
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Some of my research brings up altering genetics.
By the way.
Whatcho guys think about the last couple of days?
I'm beginning to see these things as scare tactics to get people to go out and spend.
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I saw some of my cohort in the news media the last few days. I come from a political actor's background just FYI. We're the ones you see when you think you're being fed the truth instead of a Hollywood fiction. It's all bullshit as far as I can tell. Maybe some actors/instigators nudging sheep into action, but nothing more than that usual game and some makeup for the cameras.
Zzzzzzz...

I should note we're also used for spin when real things do happen :P
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Had a friend or 2 in news media.It's all bull shit programming.
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Any of you in your research find 1948 interesting?
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Any of you in your research find 1948 interesting?
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Artichoke?

The family that raised me were the original and second generations. Creepy mother fuckers.
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Back to vax scars.....

I've said repeatedly that I don't have them, but that may not be accurate.
The truth is that I don't have them on my upper arm where everyone talks about re small pox scars.

I have multiple multi pin marks surrounded by discolouration on the inside of my lower arm, closer to my wrist than my elbow. Nine different ones that are obvious, all consisting of almost identical four pin marks forming a square, some with a fifth dot in the middle.
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Any of you in your research find 1948 interesting?
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Yeah, it came up a few times. Just started my second cup of coffee this morning so first things off the top of my head, MK began, USAF began, study on gifted children began. Was poking around with the date to see if I could re-find anything significant and came across this:

[link to cottagegrovehistoricalsociety.com]

Opal's story and pictures rang some hardcore bells. Could be that she was an Oregonian and I was an Oregonian, too. Curious though if it rings any bells for any non-OR. Opal was a cautionary tale, I think. Like I said, major bells ringing on Opal's story.
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Any of you in your research find 1948 interesting?
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Yeah, it came up a few times. Just started my second cup of coffee this morning so first things off the top of my head, MK began, USAF began, study on gifted children began. Was poking around with the date to see if I could re-find anything significant and came across this:

[link to cottagegrovehistoricalsociety.com]

Opal's story and pictures rang some hardcore bells. Could be that she was an Oregonian and I was an Oregonian, too. Curious though if it rings any bells for any non-OR. Opal was a cautionary tale, I think. Like I said, major bells ringing on Opal's story.
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"I was a (fill in the blank country) princess" was the crap they used to fill my mind with when I was a child. Bleh. She looked like a happy enough kid from the first pic.
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Any of you in your research find 1948 interesting?
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Yeah, it came up a few times. Just started my second cup of coffee this morning so first things off the top of my head, MK began, USAF began, study on gifted children began. Was poking around with the date to see if I could re-find anything significant and came across this:

[link to cottagegrovehistoricalsociety.com]

Opal's story and pictures rang some hardcore bells. Could be that she was an Oregonian and I was an Oregonian, too. Curious though if it rings any bells for any non-OR. Opal was a cautionary tale, I think. Like I said, major bells ringing on Opal's story.
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"I was a (fill in the blank country) princess" was the crap they used to fill my mind with when I was a child. Bleh. She looked like a happy enough kid from the first pic.
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Beyond that, no bells? Opal is probably something locally reinforced then. Maybe Oregon doesn't want to give birth to anymore mad geniuses, lol.
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Or maybe they're trying to replicate her in that geographical section.

*eerie but not unlikely rule-outable music*
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I can see the boardroom meeting now:

"We need geniuses to run our blah blah programs"

"I read about this one kid genius from Oregon"

"Oh really, how did she get that way?"

"Abuse and plausible delusions, Sir."

"Let's make it happen x 2000."

End scene.


How are my playwriting skills? ;)
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I can see the boardroom meeting now:

"We need geniuses to run our blah blah programs"

"I read about this one kid genius from Oregon"

"Oh really, how did she get that way?"

"Abuse and plausible delusions, Sir."

"Let's make it happen x 2000."

End scene.


How are my playwriting skills? ;)
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Pretty good, lol. I was thinking about Opal, the positive disintegration paper by Jackson on how gifted children are so sensitive, and read an article on the New Yorker from not too long ago. Thought about the shooters, too. Some of my closest friends were in the program, too, and we're all so similar in a lot of ways. Difficulties with relationships, almost a detachment from things (which often leads to more relationship difficulties), an almost coolness, and so on. It got me to think that if we were gifted children and Opal was gifted child unchecked, then why are we so different from Opal (aside from the possible schizophrenia, of course)? Could it be that they thought that what they were doing was for our own goods? With the exception of Bea (though I think she noted the detachment, too), many of us see more logic driven than bursting with any kind of wild creativity. The New Yorker said that Opal was consumed by her intelligence. What if they thought the same thing would happen to us? So, in most cases, they effectively put a curb on that emotional right side of the brain, but that same process also aggravated a few by provoking a full mania. Like Andrew Wurst and his statements about the government programming people with specific personalities.

I'm still unconvinced that everything that happened with me as a child all leads back to the gifted program. There's too many issues that I see with that for me, at least, from my own perspective. Regardless, squashing a personality for a child because it's deemed potentially dangerous to their usability later would still be pretty unethical and that's not even considering the methodology that may have been used. Anyways, was the rot that was bouncing around my head today and thought I'd share it. It just raises the possibility that they could have been thinking that it was indeed all to our future benefit and survival.
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Great benefit.
Yawn.
I don't want to manipulate the masses with my giant brain, they bore me.
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Any of you in your research find 1948 interesting?
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Yeah, it came up a few times. Just started my second cup of coffee this morning so first things off the top of my head, MK began, USAF began, study on gifted children began. Was poking around with the date to see if I could re-find anything significant and came across this:

[link to cottagegrovehistoricalsociety.com]

Opal's story and pictures rang some hardcore bells. Could be that she was an Oregonian and I was an Oregonian, too. Curious though if it rings any bells for any non-OR. Opal was a cautionary tale, I think. Like I said, major bells ringing on Opal's story.
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"I was a (fill in the blank country) princess" was the crap they used to fill my mind with when I was a child. Bleh. She looked like a happy enough kid from the first pic.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Beyond that, no bells? Opal is probably something locally reinforced then. Maybe Oregon doesn't want to give birth to anymore mad geniuses, lol.
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We were all different before we even attended scool.
Check out a timeline of 1948.A certain institution was founded in 47 and I think they initiated plans in 48.
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Sorry if this seems off topic but I dont think I am alone in the belief that the big picture has everything to do with why we are here.
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Yeah, it came up a few times. Just started my second cup of coffee this morning so first things off the top of my head, MK began, USAF began, study on gifted children began. Was poking around with the date to see if I could re-find anything significant and came across this:

[link to cottagegrovehistoricalsociety.com]

Opal's story and pictures rang some hardcore bells. Could be that she was an Oregonian and I was an Oregonian, too. Curious though if it rings any bells for any non-OR. Opal was a cautionary tale, I think. Like I said, major bells ringing on Opal's story.
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"I was a (fill in the blank country) princess" was the crap they used to fill my mind with when I was a child. Bleh. She looked like a happy enough kid from the first pic.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Beyond that, no bells? Opal is probably something locally reinforced then. Maybe Oregon doesn't want to give birth to anymore mad geniuses, lol.
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We were all different before we even attended scool.
Check out a timeline of 1948.A certain institution was founded in 47 and I think they initiated plans in 48.
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Without a doubt about us being different before we even attended school. That's what set us apart in the first place. What I was saying is that, perhaps because of geniuses "gone mad" or this idea that one's intelligence can eventually consume them was one of the motivations for what they did. They recognized in us those same things that were in former lauded gifted children that ended in a bad way.

Or look at Stephen Hawking. His ideas, as of late, have been so "radical" that some are starting to question whether his mind is deteriorating. I personally doubt that it's deteriorating and think it's more likely that he's simply surpassing their level of thinking in major ways. And perhaps more confident in just voicing what he thinks instead of trying to pander to the masses. Or the Beautiful Mind movie and the professor it was based upon--another mad genius. They love to make a genius a tragedy and even better if they can call the geniuses' minds into question, don't they? Clear that up a bit?
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Sorry if this seems off topic but I dont think I am alone in the belief that the big picture has everything to do with why we are here.
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How big?
I was taught visual based social engineering in a lab/school setting. I always thought that was pretty screwed up...and at least middle management bigger picture.
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Sorry if this seems off topic but I dont think I am alone in the belief that the big picture has everything to do with why we are here.
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How big?
I was taught visual based social engineering in a lab/school setting. I always thought that was pretty screwed up...and at least middle management bigger picture.
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Maybe they just listen to us.
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Sorry if this seems off topic but I dont think I am alone in the belief that the big picture has everything to do with why we are here.
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How big?
I was taught visual based social engineering in a lab/school setting. I always thought that was pretty screwed up...and at least middle management bigger picture.
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Maybe they just listen to us.
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And are freaked out a bit by us?
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That's okay. I'm freaked out by them, so I think we're even.
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Hello, everyone...just checking in as it's been a while since I've been on this thread and I'm wondering how everyone is holding up. I have a lot to catch up on, I'd love to hear from any of you about how you've been.

Things settled for me a bit when I left this alone for a while, or I effectively compartmentalized it as most of us are so good at doing. Of course as soon as I allowed myself to think about it and started considering coming back here and digging into things more, the usual crap started. I feel like I'm being warned and intimidated at turns.

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