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Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?

 
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as with most programs & organizations you'll find some who benefited from it, others who were abused by it. changes over the years it was in place. errors that were corrected but never addressed. rogue off shoots tweaking the system for their own benefit. shining examples of why it was ever attempted in the first place that exceeded all expectations & horrible cases that justify criminal charges & possibly shutting the whole thing down.

see also: religious groups, scouting, camps, businesses, & basically any time you get more than a handful of people in a room & they start to establish pecking order.
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Errors that were corrected but never addressed
indeed. I do believe I was one of those children as I lost 12 years of my life due to being split. It's interesting because I recollect psychologists and therapists diagnosing me as having dissociative disorder but never once saying that I was split. Despite the very glaring fact that I had lost 12 years of my life. That's a pretty big sign. I heavily suspect my case was "managed" for a variety of reasons. Although I experienced Gowan's "schizophrenic" break with the hearing of voices (splits) and recorded the experience in my journals with much distress, I lost all recollection of the event. I forgot the entire experience and what would be my alter has that peculiar name that I would have never chosen. Someone's bright idea might have been to manipulate that alter to make it a companion. It's really quite cute. If I was supposed to be such a smarty pants, then why not give me an Owl like Athena? But it was never properly addressed and the scenario opened me up to significant emotional abuse for the rest of my life. My parents used my amnesia against me and still try to.

I almost wonder if they bothered to examine the home lives with any intensity before engaging in what they were doing. It's almost telling that many of us who do have more significant amnesia lumps also have made statements into the possibility or previous thought that some "other" factor outside of the program was the possible root. I suspect that it was the combination. If a child who has a good enough home life responds like Menny's mom did, that's one thing. What would be the effect on a child whose home life was framed by abuse? No safe quarter. Anywhere. From anyone. They'd be alone in the world facing perceived monstrosities. That's a really heavy load for a child.

My vampiric son but non-glittery son isn't up yet so no searches yet.
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Dr. Magary, I am desperately trying to understand what happened with me. I am trying to reintegrate. I do not want to spend the rest of my life like I have spent half of it already. If there is some direction that you could point me in that would let me know what would have been done should something go wrong, please share it with me.
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I have been spending the last 6 hours, with some interruptions, scanning through an university database on the subject of the gifted--over 910 articles. My intention was to glean an understanding of the interests in the gifted over time in order to provide for context before looking for more specific information, based on the pretense that, one can see changing thoughts over time in regards to themes of subject matter. Initially I thought that the exceedingly low number of available full text pdfs was related to time. However, I'm in the 1960's period and the limitation of available full text pdfs has, so far, only seemed to decline.

I find that patently disgusting. These people treated the gifted like guinea pigs for 70 years and, despite acknowledging superior intellectuality, it would seem that they failed to realize that we would be aware or notice such observations. I also find it very interesting that the concept of underachieving gifted, or the intellectually delinquent, increased as more examinations of students occurred. Perhaps we chose to be intellectually delinquent because we were observed, poked, and prodded without being shared what was being gleaned and have chosen not to partake in any of this group's interests because of that.

I have much more to say but I'm continuing on before doing so. I just hit a pinnacle of pissed off and needed to vent. And p.s. to any potential interested parties, I have made sure this afternoon to assure that my body is cremated as soon as possible after death. My brain isn't going to be dissected.
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I "found" access to a pdf that I do believe many of us should read, specifically those in the programs from the mid 60's to 70's group. I am not sure how to share it without massively breaking copyright but I also very much understand the need for privacy and concerns with even sharing an email address. If anyone has any idea in what way this information could be shared that does not risk anyone's privacy or shatter too many laws, I'm all ears.
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I did get tested, but not that long ago I graduated grade 12 this year.

All through elementary I was CONSTANTLY being taken out of class, a women would flip a book of images and ask me how I feel about the images.

They tested me with this really weird computer program, flashing images and I had to click the correct ones....a BUNCH of patterns with a correct pattern to choose and stuff like that.

Right when highschool came along they seemed to step things down a bit into more NON-obvious things that I wouldn't question.

I honestly never even thought of all of it in a curious way, now that I see this thread I am actually mind blown at what they did with me....really. It was like some mind control/testing type stuff.


honestly guys, I think of it now............. it seems cruel to me ...it seems like they were *using* me for statistics to help mind control and stuff like that.
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In a way, I would say it was. From what I could tell, research into the gifted began in the 19th century. What they found was that gifted individuals were supernormal. For decades, the focus seemed on trying to find which specific ethnic groups they belonged to, genetics, the breeding (like we're poodles or something) of gifted, possible sterility issues and degeneracy of stock from generation to generation. Or identifying specific "talent clans" that seemed to have these supernormal traits. Giftedness at the time was higher intellectual capacity and they also made notes of superior physicality and even appearance. Charming stuff especially the parts where they were taking geniuses' brains post-mortem to note the physiological differences in brain cell size and more. Plus there is a charming little abstract from 1923 (no access again) on army intelligence findings on this group of people and commenting on how we would naturally gravitate into a kind of ruling class as the mass majority apparently had the mental equivalency of "adolescents". Of course, with the obligatory shots of insanity and genius.

The 1940's rolls around and that's when you see the occasional esp test being tossed in with the whole idea of gifted. More countries start picking up on the gifted research that had previously been the focus of the UK, US and Germany. More confirmations of this kind of "supernormal" idea. Worries about egocentricism developing and ways to basically mold the gifted into something that would be beneficial to society instead of well, being a superior non-participatory outsider (at the least). 1950's, more of the same and arguments about gifted and what to do that hits a high steam in the late 50's. In the 60's, it's a lot of "why are some underachieving?' and "problems" with the gifted.

Then you get to the suggestion of hypnosis and LSD in 1965 to "boost" creativity. That's where I wanted to smash my monitor in.

And that's just what I was gleaning from abstracts of which the full articles weren't accessible on a uni database.
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[link to gcq.sagepub.com]

Dr. Stanley Krippner. GCQ article written by him talks about the wonderful benefits of hypnosis and post-hypnotic suggestion and the benefits of combining hypnosis and lsd. There is a way to access the article. If you seek a key to unlock the sage, you will find it.
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I also find it very interesting that the concept of underachieving gifted, or the intellectually delinquent, increased as more examinations of students occurred. Perhaps we chose to be intellectually delinquent because we were observed, poked, and prodded without being shared what was being gleaned and have chosen not to partake in any of this group's interests because of that.
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our system appears to be designed to drive rational people insane. maybe that's just a convenient side effect for those invested in the status quo.
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I also find it very interesting that the concept of underachieving gifted, or the intellectually delinquent, increased as more examinations of students occurred. Perhaps we chose to be intellectually delinquent because we were observed, poked, and prodded without being shared what was being gleaned and have chosen not to partake in any of this group's interests because of that.
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our system appears to be designed to drive rational people insane. maybe that's just a convenient side effect for those invested in the status quo.
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I actually kind of agree though I would amend the "drive rational people insane" to "drive rational people insane or, at the least, make them appear to be insane should they report it". Look at our situation here on the thread. There is ample documentation that they were treating us like guinea pigs and the mere fact that lsd and hypnosis were being suggested in a scholarly journal about gifted children is just jaw dropping. I find it grotesque. The thing is, if I were to suggest such a thing without having any of this documentation on hand, I would be the one considered to be insane--not the proper individuals (the perpetrators). I just take comfort in that I managed to turn out sane (at least according to Gowan lol). Just because insane things were done with me, that doesn't mean that I have to be dragged down with them.

But it does all serve the status quo. I've considered that a lot. It's like what I said a while back about their having plausible deniability. One literally needs the papers in hand to convince anyone of THEIR insanity and that that insanity is not yours. Even in that scenario, there is the sense of helplessness and desire to dig a hole in the sand to hide.
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For those who haven't figured out the hint above to access. Fair use and all that.

From Hypnosis and Creativity by Dr. Stanley Krippner:

His subjects showed drops in originality upon entering kindergarten, fourth grade, and junior high school, which may be regarded as a tendency of individuals to become less creative as they grow older.


It's also noted that as individuals grow older, their hypnotizability declines. I would think that these time periods of originality/creativity degradation would be target periods to arrest that change. Notable is the junior high school one. My hair turned white around age 14. Many of the school shooters began to break down, from reports, between 14 and 15. Whereas it's difficult to imagine this being used on a kindergartener, that adversity would most likely change as the young child becomes more adult and a teenager. I could see a rationalization for it emanating from this.

In his experiment Tinnin used three male college students who were able to attain post-hypnotic suggestibility and who reported complete amnesia for the hypnotic experience. The technique of progressive relaxation was used to provide the subjects with the structure of algebraic problems that they would be called upon to solve in the waking state.

Here Krippner gets into the idea of using post hypnotic suggestions in order to assist problem solving. Each one of the three males were able to answer the problem instantly afterwards. It would seem to me that this idea would be basically gearing a mind to behave like a computer. Lends to the idea that, if they put this into practice, that they would have established basic problem solving parameters in which to rapidly come to conclusions? I also find this important as it is suggesting the usability of post-hypnotic suggestion. We looked at an "attitude changing" machine in Bushnell's paper. Again, here's yet another thing that basically could subvert free will. With amnesia.

In this instance, it would appear that the "insight" phase of the creative process had been successfully stimulated by hypnosis and LSD.


Krippner uses a case of the benefit of LSD and hypnosis combined to assist drug addicts. All fine and dandy but this is a respectable journal for the education of gifted children. What the hell? Why would they promote this specific idea there? It's interesting to note that here we have three notable things: hypnosis, post hypnotic suggestion, and LSD. What other projects were going on at the same time that involved hypnosis, post hypnotic suggestion and LSD? Not to mention biofeedback usage and experiments on gifted children using biofeedback within the same decade. Was this an educational program or a program to scramble a brain in the hopes of pushing the envelope on genius? Or something else entirely?

In general, it may be said that time distortion, and related phenomena, depend upon a high degree of withdrawal,
by the subject, into his hallucinated world, with an accompanying lack of awareness of his surroundings as such. This state of detachment, in which the subject becomes
completely engrossed in his hallucinatory experience, constitutes the first goal in training.


Hallucination, withdrawal and detachment? Good lord. All for the purpose of "time distortion" for the individual, making perceived time and actual time change so that a thought process that would have taken longer goes infinitely faster because of this altered state. He backpedals on whether or not it is feasible but quotes Huxley, "You can imagine what happens when somebody with a genius IQ is also capable of time distortion. The results
are fantastic!"

Yeah, fantastic indeed. He suggests that more research is needed. I wonder on whom this additional research would be performed. The entire article, in context with some of our reports of recollecting being made to drink from cups (LSD is most effectively given in a liquid), amnesia and hypnotic suggestions. If they did do this stuff, would they have reported the outcomes? Probably not as these were the same type of tests (but this time under the guise of creativity generation) as another project. Also interesting is that LSD and hypnosis are also reported as ways to enhance creativity by Gowan. Gowan also mentions the case of a young child being developmentally forced and how their conscious overlay prematurely ruptured. Hard to imagine that just hypnosis could wreck a child in such a manner.

It is no wonder that so many us fear or hate "new agey" and the seemingly predominant abstinence of drug and alcohol among us. I suspect that they made us hate it and messing with our alertness.
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Quid pro quo to any who are trying to data mine us.Dont respond if you are not.
Ask me a question then i'll ask a question.Simple as that.I have nothing really to hide.
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For MGM in California circa 1977-1981. Experiment results in regards to intelligence, handedness, and cerebral hemispheric preference. Involved 23 males and 37 females. Came across it and saw MGM being the group. Figured that it might have included some who have posted here:

[link to gcq.sagepub.com]

MGM students circa 1979, 490 gifted in this experiment with differing program types (ie enrichment, SOI based..):

[link to gcq.sagepub.com]

Project Potential 1979:

[link to gcq.sagepub.com]

Sorry fellow GATE/TAG. Too many states used those names. PP and MGM were the oddball named ones.
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Unfortunately, that's just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. I couldn't obtain a pdf link to this abstract accessed via a uni database but, hopefully, this helps provide some form of closure to those that remember things being strapped to their heads. Fair use as this truly is just a small portion of the originating article:

Reducing anxiety in gifted children by inducing relaxation. Roome, John R. Romney, David M. ; Roeper Review: A Journal on Gifted Education, Vol 7(3), Feb, 1985. pp. 177-179. [Journal Article] Abstract: Examined the feasibility of using EMG biofeedback training (EBT) and progressive muscle relaxation (PMR) on gifted children, assessed the efficacy of such treatments, and investigated how the treatments operated. 30 gifted students (aged 11–14 yrs) were randomly assigned to either PMR or EBT treatment groups or to a no treatment control group. Ss were pre- and posttested with a locus of control scale and the State-Trait Anxiety Scale for Children. Findings reveal that the EBT group evidenced a significant decrease in state anxiety, and both treatment groups moved toward a more internal locus of control compared with the untreated group. There was virtually no difference between the 2 treatment groups. The supposition that gifted children are more anxious than nongifted children was not supported. (19 ref) (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)
Subjects: Anxiety; Biofeedback Training; Elementary School Students; Gifted; Relaxation Therapy; Childhood (birth-12 yrs); School Age (6-12 yrs); Adolescence (13-17 yrs)


Considering that there are people who remember things being strapped to their heads at kids, knowing what may have been going on could be helpful towards closure. It's a hell of a lot better than wondering just what the heck was being done.

I find "The View from Myopia" articles in the GCQ to be kind of ironic really. They were being nearsighted. Even if the intentions were truly for good, how some children may have perceived these kind of tests and "treatments" didn't seem to be considered very well. I have a real life friend who had this kind of thing done with him in the program and he was so traumatized by it that he had to stop talking about it because it brought back "dark memories". I would have probably had the same response as a kid. Hell, my flashing lights could've been an eeg as a young child. Myopic indeed.

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well the thread has new life!
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One thing I want to point out or remind is that the gifted programs were run and managed by the individual states. The federal DoE didn't establish any set program. It wasn't part of their responsibility. So the programs are going to vary from state to state. Therefore, MGM could have had a tremendously different curriculum or style based on the program coordinator's preference in theories and schools of thought than say Project Potential. Gthree has continually stated that his program was a lot of different from what others were remembering in theirs. Well, Project Potential pretty much matches what he said. It could have been that Arizona, a more conservative state, chose a different method of approaching giftedness. In other words, just because one state's program had biofeedback treatment experiments going, doesn't mean every state had them going.

Oh and ps. Dr. Magary, I saw you were looking for books with a gifted child character for us to read. Thank you. That was probably very helpful.
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This is interesting:


Informational Listing of Names and Addresses of the Gifted Child Establishment: A Governmental Officials and Major Professional Association Officers
[link to gcq.sagepub.com]

Not sure if you'll be able to access it.
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This is interesting:


Informational Listing of Names and Addresses of the Gifted Child Establishment: A Governmental Officials and Major Professional Association Officers
[link to gcq.sagepub.com]

Not sure if you'll be able to access it.
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Yep, I was looking at that same one last night. I noticed my state being home to Frank Williams as a curriculum writer. According to another article, it says he (and others) leaned heavily on Piaget's theory. Found myself nodding my head, going uh huh, as I read the wiki on that. Stage 3 and 4 is pretty much how my brain works 24/7 and what probably gets me accused of being a dataminer. :( I really can't help it.

lol :(
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This is interesting:


Informational Listing of Names and Addresses of the Gifted Child Establishment: A Governmental Officials and Major Professional Association Officers
[link to gcq.sagepub.com]

Not sure if you'll be able to access it.
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Yep, I was looking at that same one last night. I noticed my state being home to Frank Williams as a curriculum writer. According to another article, it says he (and others) leaned heavily on Piaget's theory. Found myself nodding my head, going uh huh, as I read the wiki on that. Stage 3 and 4 is pretty much how my brain works 24/7 and what probably gets me accused of being a dataminer. :( I really can't help it.

lol :(
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Its funny, a lot of the people that I've been running into through research and chasing leads - are in this list.

I'm still absorbing.
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Didn't they tell you what you were gifted with? Or did they just say you were gifted?
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Didn't they tell you what you were gifted with? Or did they just say you were gifted?
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Me personally, nope, was just said that I was a very bright. Was put into the gifted program and my report cards, forever after said '______ is very bright but needs to apply herself!!" over and over again.
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Didn't they tell you what you were gifted with? Or did they just say you were gifted?
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Me personally, nope, was just said that I was a very bright. Was put into the gifted program and my report cards, forever after said '______ is very bright but needs to apply herself!!" over and over again.
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My report cards too, until they just knocked me to the top of the class and there I stuck like velcro.

I've literally aced sections of the IQ test..I assume that's why I was considered gifted. No one ever sat me down and said "Hey, you know you're really good with spatial equations" or anything like that.
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I do remember being pulled out of pull out (lol) to take a spatial ability test and that I did very well on it:

[link to cty.jhu.edu]

I also remember being told I had a high verbal ability so high verbal and spatial abilities. Guess those are my gifts? lol
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I have one memory of sitting in a room with an observation window. There was a woman across the table and there were cards with shapes on them.

I can't remember if she did the classic "what's on this card?" without letting me see, but to this day I will always wonder if they were wasting funding and time trying to find psychic kids.

I do remember her wanting me to get things wrong and trying to pass me information that didn't match the company line. I assume that was her cracking and had nothing to do with the test, but who knows for sure.
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I have one memory of sitting in a room with an observation window. There was a woman across the table and there were cards with shapes on them.

I can't remember if she did the classic "what's on this card?" without letting me see, but to this day I will always wonder if they were wasting funding and time trying to find psychic kids.

I do remember her wanting me to get things wrong and trying to pass me information that didn't match the company line. I assume that was her cracking and had nothing to do with the test, but who knows for sure.
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Krippner: [link to gcq.sagepub.com]

Heh, oddly enough, I found the spherical cube thing: [link to gcq.sagepub.com]

Sigh. I'd keep looking but my fiance is telling me that I need to stop looking after I said, "Crouching tiger, hidden hippy". The 70's were just special. Yeah, we don't talk about the hidden inner hippy programmed within me. hiding
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Didn't they tell you what you were gifted with? Or did they just say you were gifted?
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They told me my comprehension level was at 10.5 years (when I was in 4th grade) and that I scored in the highest percentile for all subjects (whatever that means).

They also did a lot of psychic testing on me and they always looked at me like I was odd. Makes me feel like I scored very high on those tests.

In 7th grade they wanted me to go half-day at the local college to take advanced studies - but my mother said no.

So - I guess they weren't specific.
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Here is a link to CA code of Regulations for the Department of Education. Most recent date I could find for 2004.

I thought it was interesting (see bold below) - I'd like to find out more information on if our records were kept somewhere or if they were sealed or destroyed.

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§432. Varieties of Pupil Records.

History





(a) The principal of each school shall keep on file a record of enrollment and scholarship for each pupil currently enrolled in said school.

(b) Local school districts shall not compile any other pupil records except mandatory or permitted records as herein defined:

(1) “Mandatory Permanent Pupil Records” are those records which the schools have been directed to compile by California statute authorization or authorized administrative directive. Each school district shall maintain indefinitely all mandatory permanent pupil records or an exact copy thereof for every pupil who was enrolled in a school program within said district. The mandatory permanent pupil record or a copy thereof shall be forwarded by the sending district upon request of the public or private school in which the student has enrolled or intends to enroll.

Such records shall include the following:

(A) Legal name of pupil.

(B) Date of birth.

(C) Method of verification of birth date.

(D) Sex of pupil.

(E) Place of birth.

(F) Name and address of parent of minor pupil.

1. Address of minor pupil if different than the above.

2. An annual verification of the name and address of the parent and the residence of the pupil.

(G) Entering and leaving date of each school year and for any summer session or other extra session.

(H) Subjects taken during each year, half-year, summer session, or quarter.

(I) If marks or credit are given, the mark or number of credits toward graduation allows for work taken.

(J) Verification of or exemption from required immunizations.

(K) Date of high school graduation or equivalent.

(2) “Mandatory Interim Pupil Records” are those records which schools are required to compile and maintain for stipulated periods of time and are then destroyed as per California statute or regulation.

Such records include:

(A) A log or record identifying those persons (except authorized school personnel) or organizations requesting or receiving information from the record. The log or record shall be accessible only to the legal parent or guardian or the eligible pupil, or a dependent adult pupil, or an adult pupil, or the custodian of records.

(B) Health information, including Child Health Developmental Disabilities Prevention Program verification or waiver.

(C) Participation in special education programs including required tests, case studies, authorizations, and actions necessary to establish eligibility for admission or discharge.

(D) Language training records.

(E) Progress slips and/or notices as required by Education Code Sections 49066 and 49067.

(F) Parental restrictions regarding access to directory information or related stipulations.

(G) Parent or adult pupil rejoinders to challenged records and to disciplinary action.

(H) Parental authorizations or prohibitions of pupil participation in specific programs.

(I) Results of standardized tests administered within the preceding three years.

(3) “Permitted Records” are those pupil records which districts may maintain for appropriate educational purposes. Such records may include:

(A) Objective counselor and/or teacher ratings.

(B) Standardized test results older than three years.

(C) Routine discipline data.

(D) Verified reports of relevant behavioral patterns.

(E) All disciplinary notices.

(F) Attendance records not covered in the Administrative Code Section 400.
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Re: Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?
Yes. This was the common rule that I saw with various gifted education programs:

These files and the information contained therein
shall not be placed in the student’s cumulative record folder.
The files shall be maintained in a separate locked storage
facility/file cabinet, and access to the information shall be
resticted to those personnel working directly with the
identification process, gifted education purposes, or that
have a documented need to know. Parents shall have access
to these records .


In other words, the records for the gifted program were not kept with the student's regular school records.

Also common:

Records of placement decisions and data on all nominated students will be kept on file for a minimum of five years or for as long as needed for educational decisions.

Awesome name for the school played a major point in picking this one as an example lol: [link to www.oologah.k12.ok.us]

Hence the destruction of the records after the 5 year period that was mentioned on the thread earlier.

Also interesting: [link to www.education.com]
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Re: Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?
I don't have a link, but I found System Development Corporation in one of the Sage Files. If you do a lookup for "Gowan Educational and Psychological Measurement-1965-Coleman-943-4" - it should bring it up.

It doesn't give any info really, it was a book review from a Harold Borko who worked for System Development Corporation.

Interesting to see a tie to the MGM program (along with the previous tie to Don Bushnell and SDC).

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