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Many of the Nazi emblems, such as the swastika, the double lightning bolt “SS” symbol, and even the inverted triangle symbol used to identify classes of prisoners in the concentration camps, originated among homosexual occultists in Germany (some, such as the swastika, are actually quite ancient symbols which were merely revived by these homosexual groups).
In 1907, Jorg Lanz Von Liebenfels, a former Cistercian monk whom the church excommunicated because of his homosexual activities (Sklar:19), flew the swastika flag above his castle in Austria (Goodrick-Clarke:109).
After his expulsion from the church Lanz founded the Ordo Novi Templi (“Order of the New Temple”) which merged occultism with violent anti-Semitism. A 1958 study of Lanz, Der Mann der Hitler die Ideen gab (“The Man Who Gave Hitler His Ideas”), by Austrian psychologist Wilhelm Daim, called Lanz the true “father” of National Socialism.
List, a close associate of Lanz, formed the Guido von List Society in Vienna in 1904. The Guido von List Society was accused of practicing a form of Hindu Tantrism which featured sexual perversion in its rituals. This form of sexual perversion was popularized in occult circles by a man named Aleister Crowley who, according to Hitler biographer J. Sydney Jones, enjoyed “playing with black magic and little boys” (J. S. Jones:123). List was “accused of being the Aleister Crowley of Vienna” (ibid.:123). Like Lanz, List was an occultist; he wrote several books on the magic principles of rune letters (from which he chose the “SS” symbol). In 1908, List “was unmasked as the leader of a blood brotherhood which went in for sexual perversion and substituted the swastika for the cross” (Sklar:23). The Nazis borrowed heavily from List’s occult theories and research. List also formed an elitist occult priesthood called the Armanen Order, to which Hitler himself may have belonged (Waite, 1977:91).
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It was no coincidence that homosexuals were among those who founded the Nazi Party. In fact, the party grew out of a number of groups in Germany which were centers of homosexual activity and activism. Many of the characteristic rituals, symbols, activities and philosophies we associate with Nazism came from these organizations or from contemporary homosexuals. The extended-arm “Sieg Heil” salute, for example, was a ritual of the Wandervoegel (“Wandering Birds” or “Rovers”), a male youth society which became the German equivalent of the Boy Scouts. The Wandervoegel was started in the late 1800s by a group of homosexual teenagers. Its first adult leader, Karl Fischer, called himself “der Fuehrer” (“the Leader”) (Koch:25f). Hans Blueher, a homosexual Nazi philosopher and important early member of the Wandervoegel, incited a sensation in 1912 with publication of The German Wandervoegel Movement as an Erotic Phenomenon, which told how the movement had become one in which young boys could be introduced into the homosexual lifestyle (Rector:39f). The Wandervoegel and other youth organizations were later merged into the Hitler Youth (which itself became known among the populace as the “Homo Youth” because of rampant homosexuality. - Rector:52).
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Yes, the Nazis met in a “gay” bar.

It was no coincidence that homosexuals were among those who founded the Nazi Party. In fact, the party grew out of a number of groups in Germany which were centers of homosexual activity and activism. Many of the characteristic rituals, symbols, activities and philosophies we associate with Nazism came from these organizations or from contemporary homosexuals. The extended-arm “Sieg Heil” salute, for example, was a ritual of the Wandervoegel (“Wandering Birds” or “Rovers”), a male youth society which became the German equivalent of the Boy Scouts. The Wandervoegel was started in the late 1800s by a group of homosexual teenagers. Its first adult leader, Karl Fischer, called himself “der Fuehrer” (“the Leader”) (Koch:25f). Hans Blueher, a homosexual Nazi philosopher and important early member of the Wandervoegel, incited a sensation in 1912 with publication of The German Wandervoegel Movement as an Erotic Phenomenon, which told how the movement had become one in which young boys could be introduced into the homosexual lifestyle (Rector:39f). The Wandervoegel and other youth organizations were later merged into the Hitler Youth (which itself became known among the populace as the “Homo Youth” because of rampant homosexuality. - Rector:52).
Many of the Nazi emblems, such as the swastika, the double lightning bolt “SS” symbol, and even the inverted triangle symbol used to identify classes of prisoners in the concentration camps, originated among homosexual occultists in Germany (some, such as the swastika, are actually quite ancient symbols which were merely revived by these homosexual groups).
In 1907, Jorg Lanz Von Liebenfels, a former Cistercian monk whom the church excommunicated because of his homosexual activities (Sklar:19), flew the swastika flag above his castle in Austria (Goodrick-Clarke:109).
After his expulsion from the church Lanz founded the Ordo Novi Templi (“Order of the New Temple”) which merged occultism with violent anti-Semitism. A 1958 study of Lanz, Der Mann der Hitler die Ideen gab (“The Man Who Gave Hitler His Ideas”), by Austrian psychologist Wilhelm Daim, called Lanz the true “father” of National Socialism.
List, a close associate of Lanz, formed the Guido von List Society in Vienna in 1904. The Guido von List Society was accused of practicing a form of Hindu Tantrism which featured sexual perversion in its rituals. This form of sexual perversion was popularized in occult circles by a man named Aleister Crowley who, according to Hitler biographer J. Sydney Jones, enjoyed “playing with black magic and little boys” (J. S. Jones:123). List was “accused of being the Aleister Crowley of Vienna” (ibid.:123). Like Lanz, List was an occultist; he wrote several books on the magic principles of rune letters (from which he chose the “SS” symbol). In 1908, List “was unmasked as the leader of a blood brotherhood which went in for sexual perversion and substituted the swastika for the cross” (Sklar:23). The Nazis borrowed heavily from List’s occult theories and research. List also formed an elitist occult priesthood called the Armanen Order, to which Hitler himself may have belonged (Waite, 1977:91).

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I think I have to read the thread again, it is about that time. I know at one point we were getting to the special abilities we all seemed to have then most of us went off in different directions it seemed, thread sorta died. Not divulging much yet, but I do have some unique abilities. Anyone else, yes or no at this point is probably safest.

And, no fear folks!
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It was called ACT-academically and creatively talented in MI, in the 80's. It is crazy to read so many similar accounts on this thread!

I am curious as to what special powers we may have- I have always been a loner and outsider, and my best friend tells me its because I intimidated the people we grew up with?
I have become the boss at every job I have had since high school- quickly. My employees called me a "fairy" because I can read people and situations, and react to it quickly.
That has been my reason for not being social, sometimes the fakery involved in social situations is nauseating.
Does anyone know what I mean?
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I know EXACTLY what you mean.
I wonder if so many of these people think the grimace they see is my natural face.
No, it is my reaction to witnessing you.

I have the ability to know what their real thoughts are, as well as what actions they will be taking as a result of them.

I'm never wrong.
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I think I have to read the thread again, it is about that time. I know at one point we were getting to the special abilities we all seemed to have then most of us went off in different directions it seemed, thread sorta died. Not divulging much yet, but I do have some unique abilities. Anyone else, yes or no at this point is probably safest.

And, no fear folks!
 Quoting: Spazz


It was called ACT-academically and creatively talented in MI, in the 80's. It is crazy to read so many similar accounts on this thread!

I am curious as to what special powers we may have- I have always been a loner and outsider, and my best friend tells me its because I intimidated the people we grew up with?
I have become the boss at every job I have had since high school- quickly. My employees called me a "fairy" because I can read people and situations, and react to it quickly.
That has been my reason for not being social, sometimes the fakery involved in social situations is nauseating.
Does anyone know what I mean?
 Quoting: Glass Shield


I know EXACTLY what you mean.
I wonder if so many of these people think the grimace they see is my natural face.
No, it is my reaction to witnessing you.

I have the ability to know what their real thoughts are, as well as what actions they will be taking as a result of them.

I'm never wrong.

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^^THIS^^ is my special power too! I think you may have worded it better..hf
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I think I have to read the thread again, it is about that time. I know at one point we were getting to the special abilities we all seemed to have then most of us went off in different directions it seemed, thread sorta died. Not divulging much yet, but I do have some unique abilities. Anyone else, yes or no at this point is probably safest.

And, no fear folks!
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It was called ACT-academically and creatively talented in MI, in the 80's. It is crazy to read so many similar accounts on this thread!

I am curious as to what special powers we may have- I have always been a loner and outsider, and my best friend tells me its because I intimidated the people we grew up with?
I have become the boss at every job I have had since high school- quickly. My employees called me a "fairy" because I can read people and situations, and react to it quickly.
That has been my reason for not being social, sometimes the fakery involved in social situations is nauseating.
Does anyone know what I mean?
 Quoting: Glass Shield


I know EXACTLY what you mean.
I wonder if so many of these people think the grimace they see is my natural face.
No, it is my reaction to witnessing you.

I have the ability to know what their real thoughts are, as well as what actions they will be taking as a result of them.

I'm never wrong.
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Bingo for me, too. The funny part is that I'm autistic and bomb tests reading emotions through just faces/eyes. It's just something else that I'm picking up on and I rely on it heavily to compensate for my shortcoming. People are very predictable. I wouldn't say that I'm right all of the time but 99% of the time, I peg it.

I'm not particularly sociable for those reasons as well and I have a zero tolerance for fakery. Both are tiresome.
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I am somewhat of an empath - it can be painful sometimes.

I know what you all mean about the fakery. That is too much for me. I cannot stand all the happy happy joy joy pretending people do. I no longer get to use my empathic skills without upsetting people. They react like I've just seen them naked instead of accepting my outstretched hand.
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I no longer get to use my empathic skills without upsetting people. They react like I've just seen them naked instead of accepting my outstretched hand.
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LOL. Brilliant way of putting that. Perfect.
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I will also add to this the following:
1. I chronically skipped school begginning in 6th grade all the way through 9th grade averaging about 80-90 days absent. Yet I could walk into school and take tests and score A's without studying.
2. I failed 9th grade twice due to being absent.Dropped out in 1990.
3. Soon after I went to take a test for night school to get my GED. I took the test and afterwards, the teacher looked at my test and took me outside the classroom and after shutting the door she pointed to the kids in the class and said, do you see those people in there ? I said yes I do.
She said they belong here you do not! Go get your GED from downtown and go to college. She never told me what I scored or why I was special and they were not.

4. 5 years later I went to take the GED test just to say I had it. I went in for 2 days of testing without any studing.
I passed the test and was told I read and write on a college level and my math was on 11th grade level.

5. in 2004 I took the ASVAB test for the Navy. The average score in East Tennessee is a 33. To pass the test requires a 40. I scored a 74.......
That is more then double and a 1/2 the average person and double the requirement.
I went back to the Navy recruiters office and his first words were, "What are you trying to do be a Nuclear Engineeer ?
He said ? I qualified for every job in the Navy they had to offer including Nuke Engineer but it also depended upon me passing a physical and I was good to go.

Did not join Navy and waited a 1 year and joined the Army as a computer repair MOS Bravo 25 for 6 years and got out in late 2011.

Since then I have been chronically sick. Developed Crohn's disease 1 month after leaving service and I have severe restless legs, arms, muslce pain in my arms and facial tics caused by Dopamine malfunction in the brain leaving me with very low levels. I take heavy Mirapex and colonezapam to counter the muscle disorders.I exhibit the negative symptoms of Schizophrenia while also hearing voices.My hallucinations are not the typcial ones that the postive Schizos have. Mine are depth perception, bright colors and objects or people being larger or smaller then they really are.

To me it's all a puzzle......
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Not to be raining on your parade but if you had an ASVAB score of 74 ,you're in no way exceptionally intelligent.

The score that ranges from 1-99 relates what percentile you are in of people that took that test, and to be blunt many of them are not that smart. If you want my opinion, if you didn't get a 99 you're not exceptionally intelligent.99 means you are in the top 1% of people who took the test, and it is not necessarily indicative of exceptional intelligence, since you are competing mainly with non-college bound people who couldn't get a scholarship or figure out a way to get to college..

There is also a series of line scores which have what are called weighted questions, some questions are harder and count for more on the final score, and perfect is 151 I believe.

When I took this test in 1980 I scored a 99 on the overall qualification and had several perfect line scores. The MEPS personnel there were sure I had cheated and I was told I scored the highest line scores they'd ever seen, period.

I was interrogated and given another test, with similar results. I had been pre-qualified for an MOS based on academic scores and had chosen electronic technician, signed a contract, and in return for 6 years of military service I would have came out with a BS degree in electronic engineering, which I saw as a can't lose occupation at the time.

Instead I was interrogated by military intelligence and even the CIA, and told I was not suited to military service as enlisted personnel. I was offered OSC on the condition I would agree to volunteer for Nuclear submarine service, and the Navy intended for me to be a fire control officer.

I don't know if any of you know exactly what that entails but basically it means if given the order I would be required to be responsible for destroying civilian targets (cities) with thermonuclear weapons. I suppose there is a a certain personality that could be smart and still believe killing millions of civilians was a strategically viable military option, but I wasn't one of them.

I obviously am not suited for this particular job as I am sure many of you here are aware for several reasons, I guess the point is I went through all of that testing and psyche profiling and they tried to put a guy who would have done anything he could to stop in in a command position involving nuclear MERV ICBM weapons launches.

It makes me wonder what kind of people are in a command position involving nuclear weapons, A submarine can launch independently of any command structure outside the submarine itself and one submarine can lay a whole continent to waste.
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I no longer get to use my empathic skills without upsetting people. They react like I've just seen them naked instead of accepting my outstretched hand.
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LOL. Brilliant way of putting that. Perfect.
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This is exact.

I found my way into medicine where I use my abilities to pick out exactly the behavior or condition that is causing the patient's illness. I even called out a mom who was essentially poisoning her child...

However, I have the other side of the coin too, where incapacitating a living thing is really not an issue either. Multiple skill sets from nationally ranked shooting to martial arts expertise.

Study qi gong, and you will learn to control the electrical thing. But my wife has seen me blow an entire fuse box of a car with too much intensity. Lights flicker and pop if I get mad. Its funny too. And computers HATE me. Registers always seize up when I attempt to check out.

Thanks to all for sharing. I'm still reading!
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I was trying to go to sleep, and all of a sudden, I remembered what we did in ACT class!

Flash card guessing games, figuring out sentences with only the first letter of each word, lots of puzzles. LOTS OF PUZZLES! I also remember pictures of emotions and facial expression differences being used for something?

We cracked and wrote codes of hieroglyphs, there were always codes papers to work on.

We played "stock market". Each week reading the stocks from the papers and recording their progress in ledgers. I had Hershey - yum.

Figuring out statistics using M&M's and Skittles.

We built things, every week, I remember a contest was to build a bridge using only glue and popsicle sticks, the winner had the bridge who held the most weight. Building containers that could hold eggs that were dropped from 6 ft high without breaking the eggs. There were other things, I don't remember what.

I have spent the night in many a museum and science center- having run of the place after hours.

And I remember dissecting a frog, and also building a model of a body with all the organs and bones out of paper.

My mom still has the floppy disk from the computer programming sessions, the reward was that we got to play Oregon Trail when we were finished.

I hated math, and I remember that about half the class, maybe 5 or 6 kids, would work on math stuff. Not me.
( I turned out to have a career in the financial sector, lol )

Oh, and I remember getting a letter from President Reagan, but not what it was for. The principal gave it to me in 2nd grade. It was a big deal, that is all I remember about that. I don't think I cared much at the time.

There were only 2 kids from my school that rode that special bus, me and a boy. There were about 12 of us in total. Every Tuesday and Thursday.

Not regular elementary stuff, huh?

Just like others on this thread, I skipped as much school as possible when I got older, I just could not stand doing the same thing over and over each day! I showed up for tests and finals.
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I was trying to go to sleep, and all of a sudden, I remembered what we did in ACT class!

Flash card guessing games, figuring out sentences with only the first letter of each word, lots of puzzles. LOTS OF PUZZLES! I also remember pictures of emotions and facial expression differences being used for something?

We cracked and wrote codes of hieroglyphs, there were always codes papers to work on.

We played "stock market". Each week reading the stocks from the papers and recording their progress in ledgers. I had Hershey - yum.

Figuring out statistics using M&M's and Skittles.

We built things, every week, I remember a contest was to build a bridge using only glue and popsicle sticks, the winner had the bridge who held the most weight. Building containers that could hold eggs that were dropped from 6 ft high without breaking the eggs. There were other things, I don't remember what.

I have spent the night in many a museum and science center- having run of the place after hours.

And I remember dissecting a frog, and also building a model of a body with all the organs and bones out of paper.

My mom still has the floppy disk from the computer programming sessions, the reward was that we got to play Oregon Trail when we were finished.

I hated math, and I remember that about half the class, maybe 5 or 6 kids, would work on math stuff. Not me.
( I turned out to have a career in the financial sector, lol )

Oh, and I remember getting a letter from President Reagan, but not what it was for. The principal gave it to me in 2nd grade. It was a big deal, that is all I remember about that. I don't think I cared much at the time.

There were only 2 kids from my school that rode that special bus, me and a boy. There were about 12 of us in total. Every Tuesday and Thursday.

Not regular elementary stuff, huh?

Just like others on this thread, I skipped as much school as possible when I got older, I just could not stand doing the same thing over and over each day! I showed up for tests and finals.
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Awesome. Almost exact experience. I did well playing the market games back then. Funny how I still constantly watch the investment world, despite not necessarily partaking.

I actually got "kicked out" of an accounting class because I kept insisting that depreciating asset costs were determined via no mechanism at all other than human factor. Nobody likes being reminded that its ALL pretend and made up via human construct.

Great recollection on the bridge event, I had forgot that one.
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ha ha yes I remember being sent out of math class too, for asking where PI came from.

the teacher said it was 22/7, which I challenged. She didn't have an answer so off to the principal I went. I didn't realize it would be that much of an issue, I just thought it was important and interesting.
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Sure was, and now i know why. They put us in those programs not necessarily because we had high IQ's (though most of us probably did) but because they saw specific intellectual and behavioral traits that would cause us to wake up and become cognizant of the illusions and falsehoods which surround us. They wanted to see how much time they had, and what they would eventually be up against. TPTB aren't stupid.
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This is an interesting theory.
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Absolutely this.
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I got kicked out of whatever it was because I flunked out on it, I guess.

I have no special powers and I'm not that smart.

but I know more than I remember. I know that.
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Sure was, and now i know why. They put us in those programs not necessarily because we had high IQ's (though most of us probably did) but because they saw specific intellectual and behavioral traits that would cause us to wake up and become cognizant of the illusions and falsehoods which surround us. They wanted to see how much time they had, and what they would eventually be up against. TPTB aren't stupid.
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This is an interesting theory.
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Absolutely this.
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More than theory.
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I got kicked out of whatever it was because I flunked out on it, I guess.

I have no special powers and I'm not that smart.

but I know more than I remember. I know that.
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I will also add to this the following:
1. I chronically skipped school begginning in 6th grade all the way through 9th grade averaging about 80-90 days absent. Yet I could walk into school and take tests and score A's without studying.
2. I failed 9th grade twice due to being absent.Dropped out in 1990.
3. Soon after I went to take a test for night school to get my GED. I took the test and afterwards, the teacher looked at my test and took me outside the classroom and after shutting the door she pointed to the kids in the class and said, do you see those people in there ? I said yes I do.
She said they belong here you do not! Go get your GED from downtown and go to college. She never told me what I scored or why I was special and they were not.

4. 5 years later I went to take the GED test just to say I had it. I went in for 2 days of testing without any studing.
I passed the test and was told I read and write on a college level and my math was on 11th grade level.

5. in 2004 I took the ASVAB test for the Navy. The average score in East Tennessee is a 33. To pass the test requires a 40. I scored a 74.......
That is more then double and a 1/2 the average person and double the requirement.
I went back to the Navy recruiters office and his first words were, "What are you trying to do be a Nuclear Engineeer ?
He said ? I qualified for every job in the Navy they had to offer including Nuke Engineer but it also depended upon me passing a physical and I was good to go.

Did not join Navy and waited a 1 year and joined the Army as a computer repair MOS Bravo 25 for 6 years and got out in late 2011.

Since then I have been chronically sick. Developed Crohn's disease 1 month after leaving service and I have severe restless legs, arms, muslce pain in my arms and facial tics caused by Dopamine malfunction in the brain leaving me with very low levels. I take heavy Mirapex and colonezapam to counter the muscle disorders.I exhibit the negative symptoms of Schizophrenia while also hearing voices.My hallucinations are not the typcial ones that the postive Schizos have. Mine are depth perception, bright colors and objects or people being larger or smaller then they really are.

To me it's all a puzzle......
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Not to be raining on your parade but if you had an ASVAB score of 74 ,you're in no way exceptionally intelligent.

The score that ranges from 1-99 relates what percentile you are in of people that took that test, and to be blunt many of them are not that smart. If you want my opinion, if you didn't get a 99 you're not exceptionally intelligent.99 means you are in the top 1% of people who took the test, and it is not necessarily indicative of exceptional intelligence, since you are competing mainly with non-college bound people who couldn't get a scholarship or figure out a way to get to college..

There is also a series of line scores which have what are called weighted questions, some questions are harder and count for more on the final score, and perfect is 151 I believe.

When I took this test in 1980 I scored a 99 on the overall qualification and had several perfect line scores. The MEPS personnel there were sure I had cheated and I was told I scored the highest line scores they'd ever seen, period.

I was interrogated and given another test, with similar results. I had been pre-qualified for an MOS based on academic scores and had chosen electronic technician, signed a contract, and in return for 6 years of military service I would have came out with a BS degree in electronic engineering, which I saw as a can't lose occupation at the time.

Instead I was interrogated by military intelligence and even the CIA, and told I was not suited to military service as enlisted personnel. I was offered OSC on the condition I would agree to volunteer for Nuclear submarine service, and the Navy intended for me to be a fire control officer.

I don't know if any of you know exactly what that entails but basically it means if given the order I would be required to be responsible for destroying civilian targets (cities) with thermonuclear weapons. I suppose there is a a certain personality that could be smart and still believe killing millions of civilians was a strategically viable military option, but I wasn't one of them.

I obviously am not suited for this particular job as I am sure many of you here are aware for several reasons, I guess the point is I went through all of that testing and psyche profiling and they tried to put a guy who would have done anything he could to stop in in a command position involving nuclear MERV ICBM weapons launches.

It makes me wonder what kind of people are in a command position involving nuclear weapons, A submarine can launch independently of any command structure outside the submarine itself and one submarine can lay a whole continent to waste.
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Aww shit I got Crohn's disease after the Air Force. WTF?!?!?!


If you have Crohns, you better eliminate all traces of wheat from your diet or you'll be dead in a year.
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Only read the first dozen pages, but this thread is very interesting.

I was one of those, too. "Gifted and talented" they called it. Around the 6th-7th grade.

IQ tests, speed reading, maybe a few others. I was not in a separate class from other kids, but always the advanced classes.

But my family moved halfway through the 8th grade. Different state, small town, and they didn't have any programs like that.

I didn't learn much of anything until after high school. I was doing beginning calculus in 6th grade, but would not see that again until college.

I slacked off because getting A's was easy. I discovered partying, girls, making money. Didn't care about school.

Went to college with that attitude and damn near flunked out. Around my junior year in college, I decided to figure out how to get good grades again. Came up with a strategy and got mostly A's after that.

But I was always a maverick. I did not want the corporate gig. It was a tough road, but now I do very well in business.

I never thought much about those programs because it stopped for me when my family moved. But I had similar experiences to others here, and I relate to the idea of being bored by most people, always wanting to learn more, and wondering why most people have no intellectual curiosity at all.

A "conspiracy theorist" is just someone who realizes that the "official" story (made up by people who have an agenda) does not add up, and then having an intellectual curiosity to attempt to figure out what really happened.

This thread reminds me of what Cecil Rhodes did. When he died, he created the Rhodes Scholarship, which serves a dual purpose, one public and one hidden. It identifies smart students and helps them go to prestigious universities, while also identifying the sociopaths within that sub-group to recruit into (and groom for the benefit of) the cabal's web.

Maybe the testing of 10-year olds served/serves a similar purpose.
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I remember watching a video on youtube with Dr. Colin Ross, and he said that some of the mpd people were recruited specifically by the military and govt as kids because being a victim of abuse and incest fit in really well with the plans and profile of type of person they wanted to use anyway and what they wanted to use them for..

anyway I think it is sickening that rather than stop the abuse, the military condoned it so they could also abuse the kids in their own way.

and I think they use these tests to find out what kids are not only 'special' with abilities..but are traumatized and abused already so they make good 'patsies'...

the cover story is there as to why they 'flipped' I suppose and nobody would believe the govt would do horrible things like human experimentation and sexual abuse and ritual sacrifice...a lot of govt plans here and it all falls in with their 'plausible deniability' shit they are so fond of..

this is all the tip of the iceburg, but does anyone on the titanic see it yet?

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oh and here is the thing, whoever is spamming this thread with your 'all homosechshuls are bad' bs, stop it.

The TRUE two spirited suffered most under hitler's regime..that wasn't even hitler's but the corporations..

now called the 'company'..

same shit different day, but there is a DIFFERENCE between jackbooted thuggery and forcibly sodomizing someone, and simply being SO GIRLISH IN SPIRIT IT CANNOT BE HIDDEN.

those are the ones the Nazis persecuted most.

those are victims too..and this shit is polluting up this page and I'm saying so for the record.
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This thread is so uncanny--so many of us GLPers having similar experiences, yet in classes/programs that were restricted to so few people.

I was tested in 1st grade (1977) and put into a program called TAG (Talented and Gifted). It started off with just speed-reading tests. I thought it was strange, but we all had ruin competing. There were maybe 3 or 4 kids in the whole school (in CT).

Later, we would take taxis from our school to another across town two days a week. We could study anything we wanted out of this huge book, which gave suggested instructions. I remember doing dissection of a frog, history of puppetry (I don't know why I picked that one--boring and stupid), computers, morse code, photography and photo development, electronic music, etc. We used computers extensively, back before most schools had any at all.

There were about 20 kids from the whole town that met like this twice a week.

And, for added coincidence, I am of Irish and German ancestry and also scored way off the charts on the ASVAB test although I never joined the service.
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I will say again, it is probably not a coincidence that we find ourselves on GLP... it is in our very DNA to question EVERYTHING! Learning is my hobbyhf
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Agreed. Though I kind of hate glp too, as it is SO racist,and agenda driven in that regard, give the type and volume of pinned threads. I find it disgusting.

You guys?

I feel as though we are different than the typical glp err, those of us in this thread and with this background anyway.
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Special powers- I can read the lies that friends and family tell. Not only can I spot the lie, but I always seem to know WHY they are lying, and exactly what it is they are trying to hide. I can spot people being fake for one reason or another. I have been called a "fairy" lol.

I also can feel ugly intentions before they happen, like crowds that will do stupid stuff. It was hard as a teen, I grew up in the ghetto, and bad intentions were everyday.

I am a master at learning the work structure of the companies I work for,and have risen to the top time and time again.

I get instant creeps from some people, like they have a black cloud. I can tell who needs help. The poor and needy usually sought me out at work, they would tell me thier life story upon meeting me. I enjoyed being able to help them. My employees would laugh, and tell me I have a "beacon" that some people can see.

Some people are blank, and do not seem to have that "lightbulb" above thier head. I avoid them.

Social situations have never been comfortable for me. Sometimes I think I may have a touch of empath.
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I too am a lie detector, and have been called a lighthouse as well...
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I think I have to read the thread again, it is about that time. I know at one point we were getting to the special abilities we all seemed to have then most of us went off in different directions it seemed, thread sorta died. Not divulging much yet, but I do have some unique abilities. Anyone else, yes or no at this point is probably safest.

And, no fear folks!
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It was called ACT-academically and creatively talented in MI, in the 80's. It is crazy to read so many similar accounts on this thread!

I am curious as to what special powers we may have- I have always been a loner and outsider, and my best friend tells me its because I intimidated the people we grew up with?
I have become the boss at every job I have had since high school- quickly. My employees called me a "fairy" because I can read people and situations, and react to it quickly.
That has been my reason for not being social, sometimes the fakery involved in social situations is nauseating.
Does anyone know what I mean?
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I know EXACTLY what you mean.
I wonder if so many of these people think the grimace they see is my natural face.
No, it is my reaction to witnessing you.

I have the ability to know what their real thoughts are, as well as what actions they will be taking as a result of them.

I'm never wrong.

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^^THIS^^ is my special power too! I think you may have worded it better..hf
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Another hit for me as well...
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I was trying to go to sleep, and all of a sudden, I remembered what we did in ACT class!

Flash card guessing games, figuring out sentences with only the first letter of each word, lots of puzzles. LOTS OF PUZZLES! I also remember pictures of emotions and facial expression differences being used for something?

We cracked and wrote codes of hieroglyphs, there were always codes papers to work on.

We played "stock market". Each week reading the stocks from the papers and recording their progress in ledgers. I had Hershey - yum.

Figuring out statistics using M&M's and Skittles.

We built things, every week, I remember a contest was to build a bridge using only glue and popsicle sticks, the winner had the bridge who held the most weight. Building containers that could hold eggs that were dropped from 6 ft high without breaking the eggs. There were other things, I don't remember what.

I have spent the night in many a museum and science center- having run of the place after hours.

And I remember dissecting a frog, and also building a model of a body with all the organs and bones out of paper.

My mom still has the floppy disk from the computer programming sessions, the reward was that we got to play Oregon Trail when we were finished.

I hated math, and I remember that about half the class, maybe 5 or 6 kids, would work on math stuff. Not me.
( I turned out to have a career in the financial sector, lol )

Oh, and I remember getting a letter from President Reagan, but not what it was for. The principal gave it to me in 2nd grade. It was a big deal, that is all I remember about that. I don't think I cared much at the time.

There were only 2 kids from my school that rode that special bus, me and a boy. There were about 12 of us in total. Every Tuesday and Thursday.

Not regular elementary stuff, huh?

Just like others on this thread, I skipped as much school as possible when I got older, I just could not stand doing the same thing over and over each day! I showed up for tests and finals.
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Awesome. Almost exact experience. I did well playing the market games back then. Funny how I still constantly watch the investment world, despite not necessarily partaking.

I actually got "kicked out" of an accounting class because I kept insisting that depreciating asset costs were determined via no mechanism at all other than human factor. Nobody likes being reminded that its ALL pretend and made up via human construct.

Great recollection on the bridge event, I had forgot that one.
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Almost exact as well many a trip to space centers and observatories, as well as the rest.and in addition to a letter from Reagan, got one from Schwarzenegger for the presidential council of fitness...
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This thread is so uncanny--so many of us GLPers having similar experiences, yet in classes/programs that were restricted to so few people.

I was tested in 1st grade (1977) and put into a program called TAG (Talented and Gifted). It started off with just speed-reading tests. I thought it was strange, but we all had ruin competing. There were maybe 3 or 4 kids in the whole school (in CT).

Later, we would take taxis from our school to another across town two days a week. We could study anything we wanted out of this huge book, which gave suggested instructions. I remember doing dissection of a frog, history of puppetry (I don't know why I picked that one--boring and stupid), computers, morse code, photography and photo development, electronic music, etc. We used computers extensively, back before most schools had any at all.

There were about 20 kids from the whole town that met like this twice a week.

And, for added coincidence, I am of Irish and German ancestry and also scored way off the charts on the ASVAB test although I never joined the service.
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I will say again, it is probably not a coincidence that we find ourselves on GLP... it is in our very DNA to question EVERYTHING! Learning is my hobbyhf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61290381


Agreed. Though I kind of hate glp too, as it is SO racist,and agenda driven in that regard, give the type and volume of pinned threads. I find it disgusting.

You guys?

I feel as though we are different than the typical glp err, those of us in this thread and with this background anyway.
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I don't buy into the hate, either
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This thread is so uncanny--so many of us GLPers having similar experiences, yet in classes/programs that were restricted to so few people.

I was tested in 1st grade (1977) and put into a program called TAG (Talented and Gifted). It started off with just speed-reading tests. I thought it was strange, but we all had ruin competing. There were maybe 3 or 4 kids in the whole school (in CT).

Later, we would take taxis from our school to another across town two days a week. We could study anything we wanted out of this huge book, which gave suggested instructions. I remember doing dissection of a frog, history of puppetry (I don't know why I picked that one--boring and stupid), computers, morse code, photography and photo development, electronic music, etc. We used computers extensively, back before most schools had any at all.

There were about 20 kids from the whole town that met like this twice a week.

And, for added coincidence, I am of Irish and German ancestry and also scored way off the charts on the ASVAB test although I never joined the service.
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I will say again, it is probably not a coincidence that we find ourselves on GLP... it is in our very DNA to question EVERYTHING! Learning is my hobbyhf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61290381


Agreed. Though I kind of hate glp too, as it is SO racist,and agenda driven in that regard, give the type and volume of pinned threads. I find it disgusting.

You guys?

I feel as though we are different than the typical glp err, those of us in this thread and with this background anyway.
 Quoting: Matouwac Torch LOP 69956981


I don't buy into the hate, either
flower
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Well with GLP being what it IS and what it is used for, I am sure many can see through the "control" and "conditioning" going on here. Been pretty obvious over that last 5 years for sure.

The biggest plus is it provides a semi-direct line to those operating in the intelligence agencies. Great forum to attempt communication with them (albeit they will never say who they are) to influence their decision-making. That has personally been a mission of mine...getting them to hear about the crimes their masters have perpetrated upon others - especially innocent children. Hopefully this makes some question exactly who/what they are fighting for.

Should be enough stories/accounts out there for them to seriously think through the agenda being executed currently and how they and their loved ones are setting up a global tyranny that NO ONE will be safe in or indisposable.
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I was trying to go to sleep, and all of a sudden, I remembered what we did in ACT class!

Flash card guessing games, figuring out sentences with only the first letter of each word, lots of puzzles. LOTS OF PUZZLES! I also remember pictures of emotions and facial expression differences being used for something?

We cracked and wrote codes of hieroglyphs, there were always codes papers to work on.

We played "stock market". Each week reading the stocks from the papers and recording their progress in ledgers. I had Hershey - yum.

Figuring out statistics using M&M's and Skittles.

We built things, every week, I remember a contest was to build a bridge using only glue and popsicle sticks, the winner had the bridge who held the most weight. Building containers that could hold eggs that were dropped from 6 ft high without breaking the eggs. There were other things, I don't remember what.

I have spent the night in many a museum and science center- having run of the place after hours.

And I remember dissecting a frog, and also building a model of a body with all the organs and bones out of paper.

My mom still has the floppy disk from the computer programming sessions, the reward was that we got to play Oregon Trail when we were finished.

I hated math, and I remember that about half the class, maybe 5 or 6 kids, would work on math stuff. Not me.
( I turned out to have a career in the financial sector, lol )

Oh, and I remember getting a letter from President Reagan, but not what it was for. The principal gave it to me in 2nd grade. It was a big deal, that is all I remember about that. I don't think I cared much at the time.

There were only 2 kids from my school that rode that special bus, me and a boy. There were about 12 of us in total. Every Tuesday and Thursday.

Not regular elementary stuff, huh?

Just like others on this thread, I skipped as much school as possible when I got older, I just could not stand doing the same thing over and over each day! I showed up for tests and finals.
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This is kind of freaking me out. Not so much because you brought back memories, but because I never thought for a second that these were abnormal assignments for children. I suppose it wasn't normal to be doing these sorts of things in first through fifth grade? I am stunned that I have so many of the same memories of you.





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