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"A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?

 
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"A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Revelation 12
5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Who is she, and who is her son?

Come one come all...

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MOOPS,spreading joy and mayhem :)
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MOOPS,spreading joy and mayhem :)
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And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them.
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MOOPS,spreading joy and mayhem :)
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And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Revelation 12
5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Who is she, and who is her son?

Come one come all...

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 Quoting: Mr Black 863538

2 interpatiions


1. The woman is Israel & Jesus is the son

2. The woman is the church & Jesus is the son


I had always went for #1, but Irenaeus a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of the Apostle John(who wrote revelation) says #2 is correct
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
This passage is refering to an actual person/ demigod. This person is the analog of padma from the kalki purana. Clothed with the sun also refers to her time of birth which would have to be when the sun is in the lady libra. The crown of 12 stars and moon at her feet refer to her archetype. This archetype is represented by the high preistess and empress tarot cards. On is depited by a woman wearing a crown of twelve stars and the other is depicted by a woman with the moon at her feet. Her archetype is identical with the personality of the arch angel gabriel and more particulary with her ancient Egyptian counterpart which was worshiped as a star located in the Draco constellation. The dragon has to do with the constellation Draco.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
The Star of Bethlehem was the new moon (first crescent) & the constellations of Ariel & Bethula.

Her son is Yeshua & the woman was Bethula.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
The church is represented in this vision.

(1.) As a woman, the weaker part of the world, but the spouse of Christ, and the mother of the saints.

(2.) As clothed with the sun, the imputed righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ. Having put on Christ, who is the Sun of righteousness, she, by her relation to Christ, is invested with honourable rights and privileges, and shines in his rays.

(3.) As having the moon under her feet (that is, the world); she stands upon it, but lives above it; her heart and hope are not set upon sublunary things, but on the things that are in heaven, where her head is.

(4.) As having on her head a crown of twelve stars, that is, the doctrine of the gospel preached by the twelve apostles, which is a crown of glory to all true believers.

(5.) As in travail, crying out, and pained to be delivered. She was pregnant, and now in pain to bring forth a holy progeny to Christ, desirous that what was begun in the conviction of sinners might end in their conversion, that when the children were brought to the birth there might be strength to bring forth, and that she might see of the travail of her soul.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
2 interpatiions


1. The woman is Israel & Jesus is the son

2. The woman is the church & Jesus is the son


I had always went for #1, but Irenaeus a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of the Apostle John(who wrote revelation) says #2 is correct
 Quoting: mathetes

Both are wrong. We must go according to the written word.

The women about to give birth is awaited by the beast with ten horns and seven heads the one that is yet to come (666), therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE that this male son caught up to GOD and his throne be Jesus.

Revelation 12

3 -- Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems.

4 -- Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth.

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
This passage is refering to an actual person/ demigod.
 Quoting: b-tight 863541

The church is represented in this vision.
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So who is the male son caught up to God's throne. hf
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Her son is Yeshua & the woman was Bethula.
 Quoting: mopar28m

Hi mopar but you are contesting the written word in the book of Revelation. Need I remind you about Revelation 22:18 ?

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The women about to give birth is awaited by the beast with ten horns and seven heads the one that is yet to come (666), therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE that this male son caught up to GOD and his throne be Jesus.

Revelation 12

3 -- Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems.

4 -- Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth.

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Our Lady of Guadalupe?
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
This passage is refering to an actual person/ demigod.


The church is represented in this vision.

So who is the male son caught up to God's throne. hf
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Well like I said she is synonomous with padma from the Kalki purana. In that book it mentions her having two sons. I need to find/order a full copy of that book. Perhaps it gives some clues to who this son is.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
The church is represented in this vision.

Well like I said she is synonomous with padma from the Kalki purana. In that book it mentions her having two sons. I need to find/order a full copy of that book. Perhaps it gives some clues to who this son is.
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The seven churches are the first to be addressed in the Book of Revelation, and they are addressed as churches, not women.

'Woman' in the book of Revelation is in reference of cities.

So now you know that the woman is a city, but who is the child?

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
She is the Water Bearer.. the Destroyer to cleanse this age and bring us into the new. I was unaware that she gave birth to a son, please tell us more.?
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
12 stars = 12 tribes of European Christian Israel

The EU symbol is a circle of twelve stars.

Christian Israel gives birth to a son who is
destined to rule them all = Vladimir Putin.



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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Revelation 12
5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Who is she, and who is her son?

Come one come all...

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
12 stars = 12 tribes of European Christian Israel

The EU symbol is a circle of twelve stars.

Christian Israel gives birth to a son who is
destined to rule them all = Vladimir Putin.



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 Quoting: Dr Doom




The moon at her feet is Islam.


In Orthodox Russia many crosses on Orthodox churches
have a sunburst in the center... 12 stars around the
sunburst... and a crescent moon at the foot of the cross.


Here is a photo of such a cross.

[link to thumb1.shutterstock.com.edgesuite.net]





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I'm ignoring the quack replies. hf
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Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Revelation 12
5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Who is she, and who is her son?

Come one come all...

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She is the Church and her child is the elect.
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I'm ignoring the quack replies. hf


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 863538



I hope you are not referring to my posts...
I am being very serious.

Check out the link to the photo of Russia's Rev 12 cross.

It has a sunburst with 12 stars around the sunburst and
a crescent moon at it's base... this cross is found on
many Russian Orthodox churches, including the newly
rebuilt Church of Christ the Saviour in Moscow, the
largest Russian Orthodox church in the world.



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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
You should maybe look at this:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
She is the Church and her child is the elect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 855080

How is she a church?

The seven churches are the first to be addressed in the Book of Revelation, and they are addressed as churches, not women.

But I'll play along, who is the Elect?

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
You should maybe look at this:

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 803157

The book of Revelation was written by one of the last twelve shepherds, saint John, that clip is made by yahoo's.

You watch it, and if you think to know the answer post it.

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
She is the Church and her child is the elect.

How is she a church?

The seven churches are the first to be addressed in the Book of Revelation, and they are addressed as churches, not women.

But I'll play along, who is the Elect?

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The elect are the 144,000. The Church is to be married to Jesus. Which is the way God reveals the relationship.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Jesus is to the bible as Aliens are to Roswell.
Its a good story and the people want to believe it.
And the group lets them believe it.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
She's Miss Universe. Usually from South America.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
12 stars = 12 tribes of European Christian Israel

The EU symbol is a circle of twelve stars.

Christian Israel gives birth to a son who is
destined to rule them all = Vladimir Putin.



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That fits very well.



The moon at her feet is Islam.


In Orthodox Russia many crosses on Orthodox churches
have a sunburst in the center... 12 stars around the
sunburst... and a crescent moon at the foot of the cross.


Here is a photo of such a cross.

[link to thumb1.shutterstock.com.edgesuite.net]





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I am interested in your replies Doom. I think you photo is right on.

I'm ignoring the quack replies. hf





I hope you are not referring to my posts...
I am being very serious.

Check out the link to the photo of Russia's Rev 12 cross.

It has a sunburst with 12 stars around the sunburst and
a crescent moon at it's base... this cross is found on
many Russian Orthodox churches, including the newly
rebuilt Church of Christ the Saviour in Moscow, the
largest Russian Orthodox church in the world.



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